ChocolateBox3121 said:

poppys said:

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& good luck!

bondno9 said:

Wasn't it Apollonia who said Prince had spoken to her in the not-too-distant-past, and spoke of a 'Jubilant Judas' in his midst?

Dibblekins said:

This pic?

That's Damaris

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

This pic?

bondno9 said:

That's Damaris

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

This pic?

I know that is Demaris but I thought you were talking about Phaedra.

That is Phaedra next to Demaris.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

bondno9 said:

That's Damaris

I know that is Demaris but I thought you were talking about Phaedra.

That is Phaedra next to Demaris.

I don't know who that is not to Damaris ... but she doesn't look like Phaedra

Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins

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This is Damaris and who's the other woman?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

This pic?

PHAEDRA

She LOVES Him..you can FEEL IT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSSnwyOUkNE

206Michelle said:

This is Damaris and who's the other woman?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

This pic?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

bondno9 said:

Sooo Tyka is lurking around on Apollonia's IG page almost as if she's saying "I'm watching you and what you say ..."

Is Tyka commenting on some of Apollonia's posts?

Phaedra Ellis-Lamkins

Is this 2014 interview the one that Rolling Stone published after his death?

mnfriend said:

(answering my own question about part of an interview being pulled; it was with Rolling Stone magazine 2014) Speaking about his outlook on sex in 2014, he told Rolling Stone: "Yeah, I'm celibate."

I was wondering the same thing about Mariah!

disch said:

while it was interesting to hear Mariah's opinion about Prince's business decisions, my main thought about that was: why was he including this woman -- in her early 20s whose main professional experience prior to that appeared to be part-time modeling -- in negotiations about a multi-million-dollar portfolio? That was honestly more disheartening to me: that he allowed a revolving door of inexperienced people to be involved in this stuff.

Robbajobba said:

Mariah Brown in her interview also says how she thought it was odd that Prince chose WB over LA Reid, and that it was Phaedra who was pushing him towards WB. Who knows? Maybe Phaedra had some kind of private deal with WB? Or maybe WB was just a better deal for Prince, and - now that he'd 'won' in his decades long battle with WB, he thought it would be magnanimous to do a new album with them, or he was doing it for old times sake, or something...

206Michelle said:

Is this 2014 interview the one that Rolling Stone published after his death?

mnfriend said:

(answering my own question about part of an interview being pulled; it was with Rolling Stone magazine 2014) Speaking about his outlook on sex in 2014, he told Rolling Stone: "Yeah, I'm celibate."

Yes.

206Michelle said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

bondno9 said:

That's Damaris

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

This pic?

I know that is Demaris but I thought you were talking about Phaedra.

That is Phaedra next to Demaris.

YES that is the pic...Phaedra looks to be the Jublient Judas there
6million dollar woman...seems she did it again
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Lovejunky said:

PHAEDRA

She LOVES Him..you can FEEL IT

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSSnwyOUkNE

206Michelle said:

This is Damaris and who's the other woman?

I honestly can't say that I FEEL IT from the picture. I just don't! But thank you very much for linking the video because I hadn't seen it either before tonight. Yet, I do FEEL it may have REVEALED quite a bit and maybe even more than what was actually intended.

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On the previous Part 8 - it was mentioned that there was a photo of the JW agreement Prince had signed? I am interested in seeing this, I have downloaded the documents but not been able to bring myself to open them as yet, could someone direct me to which part to open to view that agreement? Via PM if possible? Thanking you so much - and yeah, it has been tough times

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

This pic?

Says it all really. Poor Phaedra looks beside herself with grief.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Dibblekins said:

Wasn't it Apollonia who said Prince had spoken to her in the not-too-distant-past, and spoke of a 'Jubilant Judas' in his midst?

Yes...and looking back at the memorial pics Phaedra might just fit that...

‘Jubilant’ from that pic?!

To me that looks more like Damaris (who seems to me to have conducted herself impeccably since Prince’s passing) is somehow managing to maintain her composure, whilst supporting Phaedra, who seems overcome with grief and misery.

Phaedra’s anguish and distress in this pic certainly seems to me to be pretty incongruous with the alleged ‘vulture’ that one or two or my fellow orgers seem to be portraying.

Yet another budding Katherine Hepburn in the Prince camp? I must say it seems that Prince had a rare talent for unintentionally unearthing thespian talent.

We got records now: https://carvercounty.shar...f15c845a58

GrayDorian said:

‘Jubilant’ from that pic?!

To me that looks more like Damaris (who seems to me to have conducted herself impeccably since Prince’s passing) is somehow managing to maintain her composure, whilst supporting Phaedra, who seems overcome with grief and misery.

Phaedra’s anguish and distress in this pic certainly seems to me to be pretty incongruous with the alleged ‘vulture’ that one or two or my fellow orgers seem to be portraying.

Yet another budding Katherine Hepburn in the Prince camp? I must say it seems that Prince had a rare talent for unintentionally unearthing thespian talent.

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Indeed. However, assuming Apollonia was telling the truth about Prince having said such a thing (and, remember, it was said long, long before any further information was revealed about P's estate management or similar) one can't help but wonder as to the identity of this 'Jubilant Judas' of whom he spoke.

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It's certainly a curiosity, is it not? As has been said many times before, there does seem to be a lot of cryptic commentary emanating from P's associates, past and present!
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Dibblekins said:

GrayDorian said:

‘Jubilant’ from that pic?!

To me that looks more like Damaris (who seems to me to have conducted herself impeccably since Prince’s passing) is somehow managing to maintain her composure, whilst supporting Phaedra, who seems overcome with grief and misery.

Phaedra’s anguish and distress in this pic certainly seems to me to be pretty incongruous with the alleged ‘vulture’ that one or two or my fellow orgers seem to be portraying.

Yet another budding Katherine Hepburn in the Prince camp? I must say it seems that Prince had a rare talent for unintentionally unearthing thespian talent.

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Indeed. However, assuming Apollonia was telling the truth about Prince having said such a thing (and, remember, it was said long, long before any further information was revealed about P's estate management or similar) one can't help but wonder as to the identity of this 'Jubilant Judas' of whom he spoke.

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It's certainly a curiosity, is it not? As has been said many times before, there does seem to be a lot of cryptic commentary emanating from P's associates, past and present!
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Far too cryptic...well nigh indecipherable for an ole dumbo like me, that's for sure!

Yeah, I'm curious too about any purported malicious role plotting Prince's downfall by a 'jubliant Judas' too.

I know some here seem a tad skeptical about the veracity of Apples' account, but I've gotta admit that sounds like the sort of scriptural imagery I could imagine Prince using.

If true, I've no idea which of the associates Prince was referring to, though it seems unlikely to me to be someone sobbing their heart out at the funeral, like Phaedra clearly was. (Isn't it more likely to be a man, as it's jubilant Judas and not delighted Delilah?) I may be completely mistaken about that of couse though.

It will be interesting to read what Apples has to say in her book about it.

cloveringold85 said:

leec1 said:

I did listen to Theo's interview and what stood out the most to me was his comments on Phaedra being asked by Prince about amounts of money: $1,000,000. Theo's comments suggest that there may be some inconsistencies about money.

I didn't find this surprising. When you have a money manager handling your funds, there is a definite need to have audit practices in place. It didn't sound like this was being done.

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The 1M Prince wanted set aside for Larry's new house.

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Theo said the money was never set-aside. When Theo would ask Phaedra about the money, she said they needed that money to pay taxes.

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Phaedra did not like paying people, and apparently no one was supervising her.

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My interpretation of what Theo said goes beyond money for Larry's house and paying the band. I feel he was suggesting that Phaedra was stealing funds.

leec1 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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The 1M Prince wanted set aside for Larry's new house.

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Theo said the money was never set-aside. When Theo would ask Phaedra about the money, she said they needed that money to pay taxes.

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Phaedra did not like paying people, and apparently no one was supervising her.

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My interpretation of what Theo said goes beyond money for Larry's house and paying the band. I feel he was suggesting that Phaedra was stealing funds.

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Yes. He also made it sound like Phaedra seemed to have a stronghold over a lot of people and manipulated people in Prince's camp. The fact that she did not pay people what they were owed, raises a big red flag, imo.

disch said:

Handling, no. Involved: well, she described being in the room when some negotiations were going on involving his catalogue. I think there was a pattern of Prince hiring people to do jobs they were probably minimally qualified for to start (office work etc), and then if he liked them he'd dump ever more responsibility on them, including things inolving money. (That wasn't specifically the situation with Mariah, but with others).

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And there was an awful lot of palace intrigue around PP: this person hates that person, etc. It just sounded very chaotic and honestly somewhat unprofessional to me generally.

cloveringold85 said:

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I just finished listening to Mariah Brown's interview. I didn't get the impression that she was handling any of Prince's business affairs, in terms of his music. Mariah said she was running errands, shopping and getting food for Prince and would assist with dinners, which was prepared by the cook, Ray Roberts.

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One thing that stood out is when she said that after Prince had passed, Kirk, Phaedra and Meron basically cut her out and started acting weird and would not return phone calls.

I got that impression also. He obviously was not a business person. He needed someone to manage the entire staff and who also had experience in personnel management. For instance, several of the people interviewed said that they left because of the workload. A good general manager would know that they needed more people or needed to prioritize and plan out tasks - things of that nature. Prince should have invested in hiring a business consulting firm to evaluate the work and personnel needs of Paisley Park and make recomendations on org structure, how many employees are needed, and to define the various job responsibilites.

tmo1965 said:

disch said:

Handling, no. Involved: well, she described being in the room when some negotiations were going on involving his catalogue. I think there was a pattern of Prince hiring people to do jobs they were probably minimally qualified for to start (office work etc), and then if he liked them he'd dump ever more responsibility on them, including things inolving money. (That wasn't specifically the situation with Mariah, but with others).

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And there was an awful lot of palace intrigue around PP: this person hates that person, etc. It just sounded very chaotic and honestly somewhat unprofessional to me generally.

I got that impression also. He obviously was not a business person. He needed someone to manage the entire staff and who also had experience in personnel management. For instance, several of the people interviewed said that they left because of the workload. A good general manager would know that they needed more people or needed to prioritize and plan out tasks - things of that nature. Prince should have invested in hiring a business consulting firm to evaluate the work and personnel needs of Paisley Park and make recomendations on org structure, how many employees are needed, and to define the various job responsibilites.

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I agree. It seems as though his business affairs were in disarray.

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Like you said, Prince had a hard time retaining people, and the one's who stuck around in the end weren't working on Prince's behalf, sadly.