PurpleDiamonds1 said:

XxAxX said:

forgive me but the same type of speculation has been plaguing me as well. just the fact that fentanyl can be administered in spray form bothers me https://www.drugs.com/cdi...spray.html

Also to this speculation, it was noted that his face was moist and the temp inside PP was 75 And those three having a secret app to hide what they were discussing [Edited 4/24/18 15:31pm]

People seem to be ignoring the fact that the Fire Chief seems to indicate it was much WARMER in the elevator itself. Also, his stomach was full of Fentanyl... this spray nonsense is just that.

Menes said:

PeteSilas said:

first?? more like 10,001 fucker.

Word is she might be eloping with WhiteDude after making up on the lisptick site. I'm not sure of how much love she has left.

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Laura and WhiteDude!! No way!!

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WhiteDude is a cool guy.

cloveringold85 said:

I did want to add -- There were no other illegal substances (coke/pot) in PP found....so, maybe all those rumors were all just bullshit too.

Not true... there was a baggie found in the dumpster that contained traces of Ecstacy.

PeteSilas said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Honestly, I don't like to argue. You mentioning white people seemed like you were trying to stir the pot.

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I actually have Native American blood in my family.

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There are good doctors and bad doctors -- I don't see why you have to attach race to it.

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Do you think Conrad Murray was a good doctor?

conrad murray is a reaction to the ingrained distrust, I had to learn a lesson like that myself when i worked for an Indian who was worse than any white people i ever worked for. In truth, none of us can take any kind of moral highground anymore, we're too tainted, but where it started for us was our interaction with europeans, before that, we had a virtual eden here.

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Okay, so you don't like white people or europeans, got it!!

cloveringold85 said:

PeteSilas said:

conrad murray is a reaction to the ingrained distrust, I had to learn a lesson like that myself when i worked for an Indian who was worse than any white people i ever worked for. In truth, none of us can take any kind of moral highground anymore, we're too tainted, but where it started for us was our interaction with europeans, before that, we had a virtual eden here.

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Okay, so you don't like white people or europeans, got it!!

bingo, only elvis and bruce they are honorary injun's.

cloveringold85 said:

Menes said:

Word is she might be eloping with WhiteDude after making up on the lisptick site. I'm not sure of how much love she has left.

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Laura and WhiteDude!! No way!!

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WhiteDude is a cool guy.

Thanks Clover. And Menes, I didn't diss ya, why are you attacking me?

jtfolden said:

cloveringold85 said:

I did want to add -- There were no other illegal substances (coke/pot) in PP found....so, maybe all those rumors were all just bullshit too.

Not true... there was a baggie found in the dumpster that contained traces of Ecstacy.

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Really? I must have missed that part. They just had a dance party a few nights before, so the Ecstacy could have come from anyone.

cloveringold85 said:

Okay. I still think that people were going through his stuff though. The search warrant did not take place until May 10th. Plenty of time to get stuff out if you wanted to.

There are photos and video from 4/21 and then the sets of photos from 5/10, 5/11, and 5/13(? for the vault opening). I haven't done it but someone could easily go back through and compare to see what was missing/moved.

It seems like a free-for-all on the weekend after Prince died when the Memorial was there but soon after that point it was locked up with security on the exterior and no one was allowed in unless Bremer agreed.

ThatWhiteDude said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Laura and WhiteDude!! No way!!

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WhiteDude is a cool guy.

Thanks Clover. And Menes, I didn't diss ya, why are you attacking me?

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No problem W.D.: You've always been cool with me.

jtfolden said:

bondno9 said:

shednz said: If it doesn’t stay long then why did tox screen from 4/21 show itin his blood?

Ummm, because it was mere hours after he took it and he died?

Have you guys looked into postmortem drug concentrations in urine and blood for both hydrocodone and fentanyl?

What's the lethal amounts for hydrocodone? How does it interact with fentanyl? What are the excretion time frame for hyrdocodone in urine? For fentanyl in blood? How does the metabolic rate affect the time determined for usage/ detection? Why are these key factors important? Might just tell you an approximate time he took it and whether it was one pill or more... just saying.

ThatWhiteDude said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Laura and WhiteDude!! No way!!

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WhiteDude is a cool guy.

Thanks Clover. And Menes, I didn't diss ya, why are you attacking me?

[Snip - luv4u]

cloveringold85 said:

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No problem!

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No one owes us anything; that is true. They are the one's who have to face themselves in the mirror every morning. You reap what you sow.

They don't owe us anything, and we don't owe them either. That means my $$ sure in the heck aren't going to them. I think if us fans start showing them we aren't interested in anything they have to sell, maybe they'll have to find a new job that doesn't involve Prince. We need to cut the cord.

PeteSilas said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Thanks Clover. And Menes, I didn't diss ya, why are you attacking me?

[Snip - luv4u]

[Snip - luv4u]

jtfolden said:

cloveringold85 said:

Okay. I still think that people were going through his stuff though. The search warrant did not take place until May 10th. Plenty of time to get stuff out if you wanted to.

There are photos and video from 4/21 and then the sets of photos from 5/10, 5/11, and 5/13(? for the vault opening). I haven't done it but someone could easily go back through and compare to see what was missing/moved.

It seems like a free-for-all on the weekend after Prince died when the Memorial was there but soon after that point it was locked up with security on the exterior and no one was allowed in unless Bremer agreed.

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Yes, one would have to compare the photo's and examine very carefully.

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It really breaks my heart that people went in there and violated Prince's personal belongings.

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Prince's friends: We gonna protect Prince's privacy, but hold-on, I gotta go and get some good stuff outta there before the Cops come back!!

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Sorry, Prince.

ThatWhiteDude said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Laura and WhiteDude!! No way!!

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WhiteDude is a cool guy.

Thanks Clover. And Menes, I didn't diss ya, why are you attacking me?

Remember words like" sarcasm"? Poking fun? They are alive and well. Try it sometime.

You keep posting this, but the fact is, he didn't die 4 US. That's BS.

ChocolateBox3121 said:

I Would Die 4 U

Prince, The Revolution

I'm not a woman
I'm not a man
I am something that you'll never understand

I'll never beat you
I'll never lie
And if you're evil I'll forgive U by and by

'Cause U, I would die U, yeah
Darling if U want me
U, I would die 4 U

I'm not ur lover
I'm not ur friend
I am something that u'll never comprehend

No need 2 worry
No need 2 cry
I'm ur messiah and u're the reason why

'Cause U, I would die 4 U, yeah
Darling if U want me 2
U I would die 4 U

U're just a sinner I am told
Be ur fire when u're cold
Make U happy when u're sad
Make U good when U are bad

I'm not a human
I am a dove
I'm ur conscious
I am love
All I really need is 2 know that
U believe

Yeah, I would die 4 U, yeah
Darling if U want me 2
U, I would die 4 U

Yeah, say one more time

U, I would die 4 U
Darling if U want me 2
U, I would die 4 U
Two, three, 4 U

I would die 4 U
I would die 4 U
U, I would die 4 U
U, I would die 4 U

Songwriters: Prince Rogers Nelson

I Would Die 4 U lyrics © Warner/Chappell Music, Inc, Universal Music Publishing Group

PennyPurple said:

jtfolden said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

XxAxX said: Also to this speculation, it was noted that his face was moist and the temp inside PP was 75 And those three having a secret app to hide what they were discussing [Edited 4/24/18 15:31pm]

People seem to be ignoring the fact that the Fire Chief seems to indicate it was much WARMER in the elevator itself. Also, his stomach was full of Fentanyl... this spray nonsense is just that.

I always wondered was the elevator door opened or closed when Kirk(who was the first to find him) found him? if the door was closed did his body travel from a different floor before the elevator door opened up?

I'm sorry I've thought of EVERY single detail about this tragic scenerio.

Menes said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Thanks Clover. And Menes, I didn't diss ya, why are you attacking me?

Remember words like" sarcasm"? Poking fun? They are alive and well. Try it sometime.

See my comment to Pete, I'm sorry but I don't get it when someone makes a joke, and it's not my fault tho.....I can't do it in real life, let alone on the internet where it's even harder for people like me......

Menes said:

jtfolden said:

Ummm, because it was mere hours after he took it and he died?

Have you guys looked into postmortem drug concentrations in urine and blood for both hydrocodone and fentanyl?

What's the lethal amounts for hydrocodone? How does it interact with fentanyl? What are the excretion time frame for hyrdocodone in urine? For fentanyl in blood? How does the metabolic rate affect the time determined for usage/ detection? Why are these key factors important? Might just tell you an approximate time he took it and whether it was one pill or more... just saying.

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That's too much TMI for me!

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I think it only takes 2-3 grains of Fentanyl -- and Prince had way more than that in his system. He was only 109 LBS.

PeteSilas said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Okay, so you don't like white people or europeans, got it!!

bingo, only elvis and bruce they are honorary injun's.

PennyPurple said:

cloveringold85 said:

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No problem!

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No one owes us anything; that is true. They are the one's who have to face themselves in the mirror every morning. You reap what you sow.

They don't owe us anything, and we don't owe them either. That means my $$ sure in the heck aren't going to them. I think if us fans start showing them we aren't interested in anything they have to sell, maybe they'll have to find a new job that doesn't involve Prince. We need to cut the cord.

with the net, does anyone need to buy music anymore? People made Priscilla Presley rich by buying Elvis' shit even though they hated her, thing is, sometimes they give us something that we need. Priscilla made a documentary recently and although i haven't got hbo, i'll watch it as soon as possible.

jtfolden said:

cloveringold85 said:

Okay. I still think that people were going through his stuff though. The search warrant did not take place until May 10th. Plenty of time to get stuff out if you wanted to.

There are photos and video from 4/21 and then the sets of photos from 5/10, 5/11, and 5/13(? for the vault opening). I haven't done it but someone could easily go back through and compare to see what was missing/moved.

It seems like a free-for-all on the weekend after Prince died when the Memorial was there but soon after that point it was locked up with security on the exterior and no one was allowed in unless Bremer agreed.

Will u please send me links to these photos and videos ..thanks

PeteSilas said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Thanks Clover. And Menes, I didn't diss ya, why are you attacking me?

because they are trying to teach your autistic ass how to have a sense of humor.

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Come on now, be nice.

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Autism is nothing to joke about. Show a little respect.

PennyPurple said:

cloveringold85 said:

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No problem!

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No one owes us anything; that is true. They are the one's who have to face themselves in the mirror every morning. You reap what you sow.

They don't owe us anything, and we don't owe them either. That means my $$ sure in the heck aren't going to them. I think if us fans start showing them we aren't interested in anything they have to sell, maybe they'll have to find a new job that doesn't involve Prince. We need to cut the cord.

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Damn Straight!!

cloveringold85 said:

PeteSilas said:

because they are trying to teach your autistic ass how to have a sense of humor.

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Come on now, be nice.

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Autism is nothing to joke about. Show a little respect.

[Snip - luv4u]

80tomato said:

jtfolden said:

There are photos and video from 4/21 and then the sets of photos from 5/10, 5/11, and 5/13(? for the vault opening). I haven't done it but someone could easily go back through and compare to see what was missing/moved.

It seems like a free-for-all on the weekend after Prince died when the Memorial was there but soon after that point it was locked up with security on the exterior and no one was allowed in unless Bremer agreed.

Will u please send me links to these photos and videos ..thanks

The NYT link has been posted about a hundred times, on this thread. Let your fingers do the walking.

Menes said:

ThatWhiteDude said:

Thanks Clover. And Menes, I didn't diss ya, why are you attacking me?

Remember words like" sarcasm"? Poking fun? They are alive and well. Try it sometime.

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Yes, but you and Pete are coming across as very insensitive. WhiteDude already told us he is Autistic.

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It's just not nice. There is a line you just should not cross.

ThatWhiteDude said:

Menes said:

Remember words like" sarcasm"? Poking fun? They are alive and well. Try it sometime.

See my comment to Pete, I'm sorry but I don't get it when someone makes a joke, and it's not my fault tho.....I can't do it in real life, let alone on the internet where it's even harder for people like me......

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ThatWhiteDude said:

Menes said:

Remember words like" sarcasm"? Poking fun? They are alive and well. Try it sometime.

See my comment to Pete, I'm sorry but I don't get it when someone makes a joke, and it's not my fault tho.....I can't do it in real life, let alone on the internet where it's even harder for people like me......

How do you manage to understand so much of Prince's lyirics? Tons of sarcasm, symbolic and figurative language round them parts. Interesting.