deerpath said:

Like many people, I wondered why didn't he seek out help? Mayo Clinic in his backyard and the recovery institute he helped his sister into and through--he knew where help was and he could afford it (that near million in gold bars....)

So what kept him from that help? The fast departure from Moline hospital though by then he was and had been seen by Kirk's doctor. Then I read this report in the NYT https://mobile.nytimes.co...=Homepage

Though it is about black mothers and their babies, it addresses institutional racism in health care. Prince's hospital experiences surely weren't good with his children (Baby Nelson and the miscarried child--it is hard to imagine the shock and pain of the boy's birth and death)--maybe that is why he bought the land across from PP to build a hospital. So his family would have care he trusted. Hospitals are tough places for anyone, but for black Americans, (and the issue is with the US according to the story) it is especially hard. I had no idea. Another lesson.

NOPE, the hospital experiences with the baby had a lot more to do with Prince and not the hospitals. Prince barely let Mayte get any care while she was pregnant. He refused tests, he refused to believe the baby had a problem, he even made Mayte check out of 1 hospital while in labor because he didn't like what they had to say. After the miscarriage he refused to let her get a D & C, which every women has to have after a miscarriage, which could have been life threatening to her. She went and had it done on her own. He had the limo driver drop her off at the hospital.

PennyPurple said:

deerpath said:

Like many people, I wondered why didn't he seek out help? Mayo Clinic in his backyard and the recovery institute he helped his sister into and through--he knew where help was and he could afford it (that near million in gold bars....)

So what kept him from that help? The fast departure from Moline hospital though by then he was and had been seen by Kirk's doctor. Then I read this report in the NYT https://mobile.nytimes.co...=Homepage

Though it is about black mothers and their babies, it addresses institutional racism in health care. Prince's hospital experiences surely weren't good with his children (Baby Nelson and the miscarried child--it is hard to imagine the shock and pain of the boy's birth and death)--maybe that is why he bought the land across from PP to build a hospital. So his family would have care he trusted. Hospitals are tough places for anyone, but for black Americans, (and the issue is with the US according to the story) it is especially hard. I had no idea. Another lesson.

NOPE, the hospital experiences with the baby had a lot more to do with Prince and not the hospitals. Prince barely let Mayte get any care while she was pregnant. He refused tests, he refused to believe the baby had a problem, he even made Mayte check out of 1 hospital while in labor because he didn't like what they had to say. After the miscarriage he refused to let her get a D & C, which every women has to have after a miscarriage, which could have been life threatening to her. She went and had it done on her own. He had the limo driver drop her off at the hospital.

It's soo hard and disheartening to read and recall those incidents...it's almost a perfect sketch of Prince's deeply ingrained DIS-belief in the healing power of professional medicine, a paranoia counter-productive to good health (mental and physical) and a portent of the sadness and waste to come.

While we all die (no one here gets out alive), I will never believe he HAD to die alone in his elevator...not to be found for hours. This kind of transition for a man literally loved by millions around the globe is such a major disconnect, no wonder so many of his fans are painfully troubled to this day.

PennyPurple said:

deerpath said:

Like many people, I wondered why didn't he seek out help? Mayo Clinic in his backyard and the recovery institute he helped his sister into and through--he knew where help was and he could afford it (that near million in gold bars....)

So what kept him from that help? The fast departure from Moline hospital though by then he was and had been seen by Kirk's doctor. Then I read this report in the NYT https://mobile.nytimes.co...=Homepage

Though it is about black mothers and their babies, it addresses institutional racism in health care. Prince's hospital experiences surely weren't good with his children (Baby Nelson and the miscarried child--it is hard to imagine the shock and pain of the boy's birth and death)--maybe that is why he bought the land across from PP to build a hospital. So his family would have care he trusted. Hospitals are tough places for anyone, but for black Americans, (and the issue is with the US according to the story) it is especially hard. I had no idea. Another lesson.

NOPE, the hospital experiences with the baby had a lot more to do with Prince and not the hospitals. Prince barely let Mayte get any care while she was pregnant. He refused tests, he refused to believe the baby had a problem, he even made Mayte check out of 1 hospital while in labor because he didn't like what they had to say. After the miscarriage he refused to let her get a D & C, which every women has to have after a miscarriage, which could have been life threatening to her. She went and had it done on her own. He had the limo driver drop her off at the hospital.

Mayte was a grown ass woman(not a minor or little girl) it was her body. SHE was the one carrying the baby not Prince. It was HER health at state. NO ONE should let ANYONE control them when it comes to an unborn baby or their health. The blame is just as much hers if not MORE than Prince's.

[Edited 4/13/18 14:43pm]