Strawberrylova123 said:

The carmen electra thread was taken down so should this thread

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I think it was about being comfortable with his feminine side than his sexuality.



In "Arrogance" "Make him man enough to say he's 50-50 girl"



and in the Ophra interview, he talks about being half girl

There has never been any substantiated rumors that he was ever once had a sexual encounter with a man. What we have were people that said: "he must be gay or Bi! just look at him!" Or Boy George's silly joke.

There is nothing in any of his songs that suggest he is gay or bisexual. Some May WANT him to have been... some of his lyrics do use clever phrasing but if you work it out you will (hopefully) see that he was playing with words.

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laurarichardson said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

The carmen electra thread was taken down so should this thread

Who are you? and Why do you want to lock threads? What was wrong with the Carmen thread since the article was about the song and Carmen had already made it known what the whole thing was about years ago.

[/quote Nothing was wrong with the carmen thread I'm stating it was taken down for some reason, this thread should be locked because it's going to gossip territory with full of assumptions.

You are trying to censor people even when some things are facutal or in this case some dude's opinion.

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laurarichardson said:

coldasice said: --All Christians are spiritually against it. Also the rumor is that Elken wanted to hear Bambi.

not true really. There are more diverse beliefs than that.

Also groups like the Quakers Church Unity Church and others.

I am discussing Christians that know the Bible and realize what spilling the seeds will get you.

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laurarichardson said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

not true really. There are more diverse beliefs than that.

Also groups like the Quakers Church Unity Church and others.

I am discussing Christians that know the Bible and realize what spilling the seeds will get you.

yep, even the 'spilling of the seed' had nothing to do with homosexuality.
I was told a long time ago that that was used as a law against masturbation.
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But the 'spilling of the seed' was only in connection to a rule that if your brother did not/could not produce children for the sake of family inheritance, a brother or cousin would have to 'mate' with the wife until a child was produced. The space in the torah that talks about a judgment agains a man 'spilling the seed' was in connection to that. Not homosexuality or masturbation. He had intercourse with the 'sister in law' but 'pulled out' and 'spilled the seed'.

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luvsexy4all said:

i guess no ones heard that rio rehearsal

care to elaborate?

"i like the mens..but i like their moms betta"

PeteSilas said:

james said:

The man was (and still is) a riddle!

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We all "knew" he wasn't taking drugs, right?... and look how that turned out.

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And we still don't know how/why Kirk Johnson stuck around for so long while all other friends and band members came and went... do we? Let's not go there!

youre not saying nothing like kirky was his gay lover are you? oh gosh.

well WHO was that on top of him on the aresenio shoe in 91?

luvsexy4all said:

PeteSilas said:

youre not saying nothing like kirky was his gay lover are you? oh gosh.

well WHO was that on top of him on the aresenio shoe in 91?

are you talking about that dance move?? if so i noticed that too.

I don't think either side would have turned him down. I know I wouldn't have.

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OldFriends4Sale said:

yep, even the 'spilling of the seed' had nothing to do with homosexuality.
I was told a long time ago that that was used as a law against masturbation.
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But the 'spilling of the seed' was only in connection to a rule that if your brother did not/could not produce children for the sake of family inheritance, a brother or cousin would have to 'mate' with the wife until a child was produced. The space in the torah that talks about a judgment agains a man 'spilling the seed' was in connection to that. Not homosexuality or masturbation. He had intercourse with the 'sister in law' but 'pulled out' and 'spilled the seed'.

Please tell me that if God stoked you for spilling the seed for maturbating why you would not get it for spilling in some dude. No chance of procreation either way. In addition to Soddom and Gomorrah.

Read it again. It wasn't about masturbation. Did you read my post? I said someone tried to tell me that the 'spilling of the seed' was a law against masturbation. There is no 'law' against masturbation in the torah or bible.
'Spilling the Seed' It was about making sure the family line continued.

The condemnation in Leviticus is about temple prostitutes. That is what a sodomite is, it is talked about in that those letters.

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Not to mention there is no condemnation against 'women with women' in the Torah.
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If you look up anywhere else where a prophet or Jesus mentions Sodom it has nothing to do with homosexuality.
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The people making up things according to their own feelings or opinions then go into the torah/bible to find something to try to justify their feelings is why so much twisted doctrine is out there. Even people who teach as a fact that God is against 'drinking'.

Even if you think about all the 'preaching' against it, it is 99% always focused on men, whether the 'preacher' is a male or female it is focused against male homosexuality. Which is more a 'threat' to both.

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We can definately take this to P&R for further debate.

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OldFriends4Sale said:

Read it again. It wasn't about masturbation. Did you read my post. It was about making sure the family line continued.
The condemnation in Leviticus is about temple prostitutes. That is what a sodomite is, it is talked about in that those letters.

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Not to mention there is no condemnation against 'women with women' in the Torah.
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If you look up anywhere else where a prophet or Jesus mentions Sodom it has nothing to do with homosexuality.

I tread what you wrote but you are not answering my question. If masturbsting is an issue why would spilling seeds in another man be okay? No procreation is taking place and women are not mentioned just because women were given the short shift back in those times. I take man in the Bible to mean mankind in general. There are plenty of Binle verses about the flesh and weakness in the Bible. Paul discussed this in his travels when setting up the church. No why can any sane person think that sex outside of marriage is a no no with God but homosexuality is okay.

You didn't comprehend what I said.
I said masturbation was not the issue.

That was someone's own personal morality being injected into the scripture.

And it had nothing to do with masturbation.

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As people read the bible and end up with GOD is against drinking. Yet from beginning to end, Yahweh is all over the place telling them to make corn liquor and wine from fruit and drink.

Is the same way people are looking in there and really not seeing anything but coming out injecting homosexuality in any place where sexuality is concerned.

OldFriends4Sale said:

1Sasha said:

I don't think either side would have turned him down. I know I wouldn't have.

i would have.....said no ,thanks

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luvsexy4all said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

luvsexy4all said:

"i like the mens..but i like their moms betta"

What year was this rehearsal??

90 or 91

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OldFriends4Sale said:

You didn't comprehend what I said.
I said masturbation was not the issue.

That was someone's own personal morality being injected into the scripture.

And it had nothing to do with masturbation.

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As people read the bible and end up with GOD is against drinking. Yet from beginning to end, Yahweh is all over the place telling them to make corn liquor and wine from fruit and drink.

Is the same way people are looking in there and really not seeing anything but coming out injecting homosexuality in any place where sexuality is concerned.

I do not agree with what you are saying because I do not follow the Torah. You are also not answering my question and their is nothing in the Bible about drinking. Christians are against drunkeness because it makes you waste your time and talent which leads to laziness. You think the Bibke is a top 100 list of do and don'ts. It is a toolkit for living your life in a moral manner. Having sex outside of marriage gay or straight is not living in a moral manner and no gay people were getting married in Biblical times. Plenty of Bible verses concerning less and lucivious behavior among straight people trust homosexuality does not get a pass on the sin list. [Edited 9/20/17 12:01pm]

The torah is the old testament Laurarichardson.
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You must not read/study the bible. The bible talks about drinking all the time.
Didn't Jesus even turn water to wine? Not to mention prohibitions about being given over to wine or deceived by strong drink.

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Deuteronomy 14:26 And you shall bestow your that money for whatsoever your soul longeth for, ...or for wine, or for strong drink; and you shall eat there before the Lord your God, and shall rejoice

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Ecclesiastes 9:7 Go your way, eat your bread with joy, and drink your wine with a merry heart; for God accepts your work.

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even I Timothy 5:23(new testament) Drinking no longer water but use a little wine...

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You are talking to someone who has and does study the book back to front since 1987.

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So you don't really know what the bible even says about sex?

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Let's take this to the P&R forum.

create a thread in P&R. So we don't take this thread further.
Take your questions or points and repost them in a new thread so I can delete our posts.

luvsexy4all said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

luvsexy4all said: What year was this rehearsal??

90 or 91

Well until I hear it for myself I am going to think he was joking around and using one of those wack ass fake voices of his. I hate to inform you but people make fun of gay people all the time behind closed doors. I doubt Prince was any different in that respect.

In fact we know he let his feelings be known publically later on in his life.

At this moment we have not had one boyfriend come out of the wood work. It could happen any day now but it has not happened yet.

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OldFriends4Sale said: I do not agree with what you are saying because I do not follow the Torah. You are also not answering my question and their is nothing in the Bible about drinking. Christians are against drunkeness because it makes you waste your time and talent which leads to laziness. You think the Bibke is a top 100 list of do and don'ts. It is a toolkit for living your life in a moral manner. Having sex outside of marriage gay or straight is not living in a moral manner and no gay people were getting married in Biblical times. Plenty of Bible verses concerning less and lucivious behavior among straight people trust homosexuality does not get a pass on the sin list. [Edited 9/20/17 12:01pm]

The torah is the old testament Laurarichardson.
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You must not read/study the bible. The bible talks about drinking all the time.
Didn't Jesus even turn water to wine? Not to mention prohibitions about being given over to wine or deceived by strong drink.

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Deuteronomy 14:26 And you shall bestow your that money for whatsoever your soul longeth for, ...or for wine, or for strong drink; and you shall eat there before the Lord your God, and shall rejoice

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Ecclesiastes 9:7 Go your way, eat your bread with joy, and drink your wine with a merry heart; for God accepts your work.

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even I Timothy 5:23(new testament) Drinking no longer water but use a little wine...

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You are talking to someone who has and does study the book back to front since 1987.

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So you don't really know what the bible even says about sex.

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Let's take this to the P&R forum.

The Bible talks about drinking but nowhere does it say you cannot drink. You are not paying any attention as usual.

Let me start at the top.

Christians who condem drinking are concerned about the wastefulness of time and talent if one becomes a drunk. They are not comdemming it because it is a sin. The Bible does not say it is a sin to drink. I know this and some Christians do not and some just feel that drinking will make you waste the talent and gifts God gave you. So they are against it. Just like drugs for instance.

I am not Jesus and I do not follow the Torah.

I believe spilling the seeds means the following.

Masturbation

Homosexuality

Sex for grins and giggles = non procreation activity.

If a man had boils break out on his body for spilling the seeds why would any spilling be okay?

Fornocation is fornocation. Gay or straight. There is no difference in the eyes of God.

No one gets a pass.

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OldFriends4Sale said:

The torah is the old testament Laurarichardson.
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You must not read/study the bible. The bible talks about drinking all the time.
Didn't Jesus even turn water to wine? Not to mention prohibitions about being given over to wine or deceived by strong drink.

.

Deuteronomy 14:26 And you shall bestow your that money for whatsoever your soul longeth for, ...or for wine, or for strong drink; and you shall eat there before the Lord your God, and shall rejoice

.

Ecclesiastes 9:7 Go your way, eat your bread with joy, and drink your wine with a merry heart; for God accepts your work.

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even I Timothy 5:23(new testament) Drinking no longer water but use a little wine...

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You are talking to someone who has and does study the book back to front since 1987.

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So you don't really know what the bible even says about sex.

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Let's take this to the P&R forum.

The Bible talks about drinking but nowhere does it say you cannot drink. You are not paying any attention as usual.

Let me start at the top.

Christians who condem drinking are concerned about the wastefulness of time and talent if one becomes a drunk. They are not comdemming it because it is a sin. The Bible does not say it is a sin to drink. I know this and some Christians do not and some just feel that drinking will make you waste the talent and gifts God gave you. So they are against it. Just like drugs for instance.

I am not Jesus and I do not follow the Torah.

I believe spilling the seeds means the following.

Masturbation

Homosexuality

Sex for grins and giggles = non procreation activity.

If a man had boils break out on his body for spilling the seeds why would any spilling be okay?

Fornocation is fornocation. Gay or straight. There is no difference in the eyes of God.

No one gets a pass.

Let's take this to P&R

good discussion.
I'm going running and then the gym.
I will delete this discussion when I get back so

we can continue it in P&R

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(hopefully Laurarichardson will continue the discussion in the Politics & Religion forum take your issues there)

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Can't we go back to talking about sex?