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Reply #150 posted 09/28/17 1:20am

JudasLChrist

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Well if you read Little Richard's biography he talks about having sex with men... and only jacking off with his stripper girlfriend, haha! Tutti Frutti was actually a lacivious song about anal sex with a man that was rewritten in the studio "Tutti Frutti / good booty /If it don't fit, don't force it /You can grease it, make it easy..."

Little Richard's homosexuality is no question.

PeteSilas said:

JudasLChrist said:

I've mentioned it on The Org a few times over the years. The response is often infuriating, from people accusing me of lying, to folks insisting that I'm being slanderous (which is just offensive), to full on people quoting bullshit from the bible at me. Lots of homophobes on The Org.

the only time i recall a story like this was from Vainandy about 10 years ago, the gay thing got brought up so often I tended to just ignore those threads because they generally never go anywhere. Well, if Prince was gay, bisexual or more straight than gay, we'll find out more I think. But who knows, rockstars are known to do lots of fucking yet how many people who aren't in the business come out and say "yes, elvis fucked me" you know it happened but not a lot of women come out with that. Prince never struck me as gay just because he, like me and a lot of men, rather would be around women than men, how many men have you seen him support in the last twenty years? so, i always thought that was a very telling thing. Little Richard, like Prince, spoke against homosexuality but from all the stories I heard, and even one i can tell myself (he invited me to his house, then on sunset boulevard somewhere, and I doubt it was just to talk music) Richard has always had stories of being an incorrigible flirt, there was one on youtube i saw a couple months ago that cracked me up, some young stage hand told how a few years ago, he escorted Little richard and crew backstage, when he first saw little richard, he says the man had great skin for a guy in his seventies, as little richard walked past him, he goosed him, it just rang true, and funny. Prince? I haven't heard a lot of stories like that but they are out there. There was some musician from the 80's who had a daughter who bragged about prince and her dad having sex, which is wierd for a daughter to be privy to, but i have only heard a few stories like that, now yours is a new one.

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Reply #151 posted 09/28/17 5:24am

PeteSilas

yup know all about it, i love Little Richard, but he's super gay, he spoke out against it as a preacher all the time, but as lee angel (the main girl) said, Richard never changed, and thank god for that, He's my hero. Hell, everyone straight and gay should suck his dick for what he's done. I wished I'd have gone to see him when i had a chance, would have been strange if he put the moves on me though.

JudasLChrist said:

Well if you read Little Richard's biography he talks about having sex with men... and only jacking off with his stripper girlfriend, haha! Tutti Frutti was actually a lacivious song about anal sex with a man that was rewritten in the studio "Tutti Frutti / good booty /If it don't fit, don't force it /You can grease it, make it easy..."

Little Richard's homosexuality is no question.

PeteSilas said:

the only time i recall a story like this was from Vainandy about 10 years ago, the gay thing got brought up so often I tended to just ignore those threads because they generally never go anywhere. Well, if Prince was gay, bisexual or more straight than gay, we'll find out more I think. But who knows, rockstars are known to do lots of fucking yet how many people who aren't in the business come out and say "yes, elvis fucked me" you know it happened but not a lot of women come out with that. Prince never struck me as gay just because he, like me and a lot of men, rather would be around women than men, how many men have you seen him support in the last twenty years? so, i always thought that was a very telling thing. Little Richard, like Prince, spoke against homosexuality but from all the stories I heard, and even one i can tell myself (he invited me to his house, then on sunset boulevard somewhere, and I doubt it was just to talk music) Richard has always had stories of being an incorrigible flirt, there was one on youtube i saw a couple months ago that cracked me up, some young stage hand told how a few years ago, he escorted Little richard and crew backstage, when he first saw little richard, he says the man had great skin for a guy in his seventies, as little richard walked past him, he goosed him, it just rang true, and funny. Prince? I haven't heard a lot of stories like that but they are out there. There was some musician from the 80's who had a daughter who bragged about prince and her dad having sex, which is wierd for a daughter to be privy to, but i have only heard a few stories like that, now yours is a new one.

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Reply #152 posted 09/28/17 5:32am

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JudasLChrist said:

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I just didn't get that one

What's not to get? Seemed pretty straitforward to me. Literal, even.

I mean I don't get how it connected with the song, and even why someone who was trying to be 'down' and get his 'bro' card would do something that blatant on stage.

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Tony M wa bitching about Prince not being 'black' enough, what did he think of that? Who actually cheorgraphed those dances on that show. Was that the only time he did it or was it a part of the routine on the Act I concerts?

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Reply #153 posted 09/28/17 5:33am

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JudasLChrist said:



I bring this stuff up because it's so nutty to see people bend over backwards to deny that Prince ever might have touched a dick in his life, or even made the slightest reference to having relationships or sex with men. The person who said "I didn't understand what that was about" when Prince had his backup dancers simulate fucking his ass, is a good example (C'mon, man!). People even deny that Prince might have read as queer semiotically. It's absurd.


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Reply #154 posted 09/28/17 7:01am

PeteSilas

OldFriends4Sale said:

JudasLChrist said:

What's not to get? Seemed pretty straitforward to me. Literal, even.

I mean I don't get how it connected with the song, and even why someone who was trying to be 'down' and get his 'bro' card would do something that blatant on stage.

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Tony M wa bitching about Prince not being 'black' enough, what did he think of that? Who actually cheorgraphed those dances on that show. Was that the only time he did it or was it a part of the routine on the Act I concerts?

that's exactly what i used to joke about with my fellow prince fan and best friend "how do you think the guys in the group feel about the shit prince asks them to do?" If they were like most black men that i knew from that era, they would really feel strange doing that, and it speaks to prince's power that he could get them to do it. He was manipulative and usualy got his way, the story of mark cardenas refusing to play in Purple Rain in blackface was a rarity because mark was ready to get fired for not going along. Prince was a strange dude.

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Reply #155 posted 09/28/17 7:03am

purplefam99

now this is great fellas, guys talking about guys and getting all gossipy, carry on... no shade intended

[Edited 9/28/17 7:06am]

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Reply #156 posted 09/28/17 7:17am

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PeteSilas said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

I mean I don't get how it connected with the song, and even why someone who was trying to be 'down' and get his 'bro' card would do something that blatant on stage.

.

Tony M wa bitching about Prince not being 'black' enough, what did he think of that? Who actually cheorgraphed those dances on that show. Was that the only time he did it or was it a part of the routine on the Act I concerts?

that's exactly what i used to joke about with my fellow prince fan and best friend "how do you think the guys in the group feel about the shit prince asks them to do?" If they were like most black men that i knew from that era, they would really feel strange doing that, and it speaks to prince's power that he could get them to do it. He was manipulative and usualy got his way, the story of mark cardenas refusing to play in Purple Rain in blackface was a rarity because mark was ready to get fired for not going along. Prince was a strange dude.

lol I trying to think about the 80s stuff, and I don't remember much, outside of it seems he talked Jerome Benton into glamming it up for the Under the Cherry Moon movie. But I don't remember much in the way of performances.

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Now the 1990s was something different. I'm also thinking of how did Levi feel when Prince slid that gun-microphone unbetween his legs 'right up underneath' lol

...BUT I also play football and know that we all have had the hands right underneath us Hut Hut!!

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Reply #157 posted 09/28/17 7:19am

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purplefam99 said:

now this is great fellas, guys talking about guys and getting all gossipy, carry on... no shade intended

[Edited 9/28/17 7:06am]

because guys don't talk about guys

and guys don't gossip?

Is that something only women do?

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Reply #158 posted 09/28/17 7:25am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

JudasLChrist said:



I bring this stuff up because it's so nutty to see people bend over backwards to deny that Prince ever might have touched a dick in his life, or even made the slightest reference to having relationships or sex with men. The person who said "I didn't understand what that was about" when Prince had his backup dancers simulate fucking his ass, is a good example (C'mon, man!). People even deny that Prince might have read as queer semiotically. It's absurd.


U got a reply to your comment

There is a 700 page book just published on rock in th 80's by a well-known British rock journalist, Shock and Awe: Glam Rock and It's Legacy from the 70's to the 21st Century, in which Prince is dismissed in three paragraphs (Rick James got more space?!)as a gay artist. What does this mean that this is how he's viewed in an otherwise serius and comprehensive overview of his era?

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Reply #159 posted 09/28/17 7:32am

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JudasLChrist said:

I'm going to put this out here again. I've said this a few times on the org over the years. People freak the fuck out, but it's the truth.

I grew up in Minneapolis. Prince used to hang at gay bars in Minneapolis before he got famous in the late 70s/early 80s. My old boyfriend, who was about a decaade older than me, told me that Prince stole a boyfriend from him around this time. He told me that around 1991.

Besides that, I heard from multiple gay men a generation or so above me that Prince was around the scene, and everyone thought he was gay or bi.

Also, later in the mid 90s I also was friends with his personal assistant. He told me stories about Prince flirting with him and his boyfriend while they were getting sexy on the dancefloor at Paisley.

I bring this stuff up because it's so nutty to see people bend over backwards to deny that Prince ever might have touched a dick in his life, or even made the slightest reference to having relationships or sex with men. The person who said "I didn't understand what that was about" when Prince had his backup dancers simulate fucking his ass, is a good example (C'mon, man!). People even deny that Prince might have read as queer semiotically. It's absurd.

Now, I don't find Prince's music particularly homoerotic. That line in Anastesia: "Have you ever wanted to play with someone so much you'd take anyone boy or girl", despite being a clear indicator of Prince's bisexual point of view, it isn't particularly erotic. At the moment in the song he's talking about being depressed or lonely and wanting to connect with people, sexually or however. And I struggle to think of any other line that was 'homo' (there are a couple) and also 'erotic'.

I do think that Prince had sex with men on occassion, I think the major factor of his queerness though was his self-stated sense that his personality contained both male and female. I think this was very literal for him. I think it was similar to how some people identify as genderqueer or trans. And that is different than beng gay or bi. Still, I believe he was bi, but heavily oriented toward women.

Thank you for the genuine candor and believability of in this entire post...I especially appreciate the bolded part, I think you summed up this '50-50-girl' perfectly. It's always been sooo obvious to me. Can't wait for Owen H's book...then it will all be laid out (forgive the pun.)

I have been heavily criticized here (what's new?) for theorizing that if Prince had been born in a different era he may have fully identified as trans up to and including 'going for it' via HRT and living fully and openly as Camille.

We don't really know to what extent he felt himself deeply female, but the fact remains that he got up most of the days of his life and donned makeup, heels, fussy hairstyles and the kind of garish costume jewelry that your grandma would love. And this get up was NOT only for when he performed. Deal with it.

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[Edited 9/28/17 7:50am]

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Reply #160 posted 09/28/17 7:42am

purplefam99

OldFriends4Sale said:

purplefam99 said:

now this is great fellas, guys talking about guys and getting all gossipy, carry on... no shade intended

[Edited 9/28/17 7:06am]

because guys don't talk about guys

and guys don't gossip?

Is that something only women do?

nope not at all, there just was a chunck of guy banter in a row and it's nice to hear about the men

in princes life and what you all think about their feelings.

[Edited 9/28/17 7:44am]

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Reply #161 posted 09/28/17 8:06am

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JudasLChrist said:

I'm going to put this out here again. I've said this a few times on the org over the years. People freak the fuck out, but it's the truth.

I grew up in Minneapolis. Prince used to hang at gay bars in Minneapolis before he got famous in the late 70s/early 80s. My old boyfriend, who was about a decaade older than me, told me that Prince stole a boyfriend from him around this time. He told me that around 1991.

Besides that, I heard from multiple gay men a generation or so above me that Prince was around the scene, and everyone thought he was gay or bi.

Also, later in the mid 90s I also was friends with his personal assistant. He told me stories about Prince flirting with him and his boyfriend while they were getting sexy on the dancefloor at Paisley.

I bring this stuff up because it's so nutty to see people bend over backwards to deny that Prince ever might have touched a dick in his life, or even made the slightest reference to having relationships or sex with men. The person who said "I didn't understand what that was about" when Prince had his backup dancers simulate fucking his ass, is a good example (C'mon, man!). People even deny that Prince might have read as queer semiotically. It's absurd.

Now, I don't find Prince's music particularly homoerotic. That line in Anastesia: "Have you ever wanted to play with someone so much you'd take anyone boy or girl", despite being a clear indicator of Prince's bisexual point of view, it isn't particularly erotic. At the moment in the song he's talking about being depressed or lonely and wanting to connect with people, sexually or however. And I struggle to think of any other line that was 'homo' (there are a couple) and also 'erotic'.

I do think that Prince had sex with men on occassion, I think the major factor of his queerness though was his self-stated sense that his personality contained both male and female. I think this was very literal for him. I think it was similar to how some people identify as genderqueer or trans. And that is different than beng gay or bi. Still, I believe he was bi, but heavily oriented toward women.

judas my friends and i frequented male and female gay clubs when we were young, because we liked

the dj's and the music. we liked that usually we could dance unemcombered and alone if we chose.

i never thought that perhaps others thought that my going there would make them question my sexuality

but i suppose they did. often in the male clubs men would still want to dance with the women i always thought that was an interesting human study, speaking of ^^^.

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Reply #162 posted 09/28/17 8:39am

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Bodhitheblackdog said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

U got a reply to your comment

There is a 700 page book just published on rock in th 80's by a well-known British rock journalist, Shock and Awe: Glam Rock and It's Legacy from the 70's to the 21st Century, in which Prince is dismissed in three paragraphs (Rick James got more space?!)as a gay artist. What does this mean that this is how he's viewed in an otherwise serius and comprehensive overview of his era?

It means some people were bitches toward Prince, like Rick James was

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Reply #163 posted 09/28/17 8:53am

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purplefam99 said:

JudasLChrist said:

I'm going to put this out here again. I've said this a few times on the org over the years. People freak the fuck out, but it's the truth.

I grew up in Minneapolis. Prince used to hang at gay bars in Minneapolis before he got famous in the late 70s/early 80s. My old boyfriend, who was about a decaade older than me, told me that Prince stole a boyfriend from him around this time. He told me that around 1991.

Besides that, I heard from multiple gay men a generation or so above me that Prince was around the scene, and everyone thought he was gay or bi.

Also, later in the mid 90s I also was friends with his personal assistant. He told me stories about Prince flirting with him and his boyfriend while they were getting sexy on the dancefloor at Paisley.

I bring this stuff up because it's so nutty to see people bend over backwards to deny that Prince ever might have touched a dick in his life, or even made the slightest reference to having relationships or sex with men. The person who said "I didn't understand what that was about" when Prince had his backup dancers simulate fucking his ass, is a good example (C'mon, man!). People even deny that Prince might have read as queer semiotically. It's absurd.

Now, I don't find Prince's music particularly homoerotic. That line in Anastesia: "Have you ever wanted to play with someone so much you'd take anyone boy or girl", despite being a clear indicator of Prince's bisexual point of view, it isn't particularly erotic. At the moment in the song he's talking about being depressed or lonely and wanting to connect with people, sexually or however. And I struggle to think of any other line that was 'homo' (there are a couple) and also 'erotic'.

I do think that Prince had sex with men on occassion, I think the major factor of his queerness though was his self-stated sense that his personality contained both male and female. I think this was very literal for him. I think it was similar to how some people identify as genderqueer or trans. And that is different than beng gay or bi. Still, I believe he was bi, but heavily oriented toward women.

judas my friends and i frequented male and female gay clubs when we were young, because we liked

the dj's and the music. we liked that usually we could dance unemcombered and alone if we chose.

i never thought that perhaps others thought that my going there would make them question my sexuality

but i suppose they did. often in the male clubs men would still want to dance with the women i always thought that was an interesting human study, speaking of ^^^.



To be clear, to reiterate, the men who I talked to that told me Prince hung out at gay bars in the late 70s/early 80s thought Prince was gay or bi because he was known to be dating men at that time. As I said, my boyfirend told me that Prince had 'stole' a his boyfriend from him.

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Reply #164 posted 09/28/17 9:00am

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JudasLChrist said:

purplefam99 said:

judas my friends and i frequented male and female gay clubs when we were young, because we liked

the dj's and the music. we liked that usually we could dance unemcombered and alone if we chose.

i never thought that perhaps others thought that my going there would make them question my sexuality

but i suppose they did. often in the male clubs men would still want to dance with the women i always thought that was an interesting human study, speaking of ^^^.



To be clear, to reiterate, the men who I talked to that told me Prince hung out at gay bars in the late 70s/early 80s thought Prince was gay or bi because he was known to be dating men at that time. As I said, my boyfirend told me that Prince had 'stole' a his boyfriend from him.

Where are all these men who dated Prince? Have we heard from any since he passed?

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Reply #165 posted 09/28/17 9:10am

purplefam99

OldFriends4Sale said:

JudasLChrist said:



To be clear, to reiterate, the men who I talked to that told me Prince hung out at gay bars in the late 70s/early 80s thought Prince was gay or bi because he was known to be dating men at that time. As I said, my boyfirend told me that Prince had 'stole' a his boyfriend from him.

Where are all these men who dated Prince? Have we heard from any since he passed?

good question^^^.

and to add, are they of good character and demonstrated that character to you over a period so that you can trust

their words? cause who wouldn't want to say that prince "stole" your

boyfriend that implies that your pretty hot stuff.

And from my musical theater world background i saw some pretty outrageous things being

thrown around for the sake of effect. i am not saying you are doing that Judas, but i am just saying.

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Reply #166 posted 09/28/17 9:25am

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OldFriends4Sale said:

JudasLChrist said:



To be clear, to reiterate, the men who I talked to that told me Prince hung out at gay bars in the late 70s/early 80s thought Prince was gay or bi because he was known to be dating men at that time. As I said, my boyfirend told me that Prince had 'stole' a his boyfriend from him.

Where are all these men who dated Prince? Have we heard from any since he passed?

I don't know. I know a friend of a friend who slept with Paul Stanley from Kiss in the 70s. We've talked about this with each other (me and my friends) but it's not like that guy is giving interviews to Entertainment Tonight about guys he tricked with in the 70s or something. The media has always been pretty invested in keeping closet doors closed, anyway.

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Reply #167 posted 09/28/17 11:12am

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I just had to post this lol

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Reply #168 posted 09/28/17 10:32pm

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Idk. Prince having been bi is certainly not beyond the realm of possibility, but since he died I would've expected at least (at least just one) guy lover to come forward and say it. He has no rights in death so what's stopping the influx of stories ? Or even ONE story.

[Edited 9/28/17 22:33pm]

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Reply #169 posted 09/28/17 10:54pm

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JudasLChrist said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Where are all these men who dated Prince? Have we heard from any since he passed?

I don't know. I know a friend of a friend who slept with Paul Stanley from Kiss in the 70s. We've talked about this with each other (me and my friends) but it's not like that guy is giving interviews to Entertainment Tonight about guys he tricked with in the 70s or something. The media has always been pretty invested in keeping closet doors closed, anyway.

stanley definitely comes across as gay and also a nice guy unlike gene who gets on everyones nerves.

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Reply #170 posted 09/28/17 11:01pm

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CharismaDove said:

Idk. Prince having been bi is certainly not beyond the realm of possibility, but since he died I would've expected at least (at least just one) guy lover to come forward and say it. He has no rights in death so what's stopping the influx of stories ? Or even ONE story.

[Edited 9/28/17 22:33pm]

funny thing about prince though, he was so offbeat and wierd, even if someone did say those things when he was alive or even now, people i think would just say 'so what, big surprise" I really don't think people cared after a certain point unlike with some stars with whom the rumours never die, like oprah or whitney. the reason i always thought the gay things was a posture was just his actions from my vantage point as a fan, like i said, his need to hire women, to be around women is natural for men, i never would even criticize that, a man should rather be around women than men. I had an uncle who used to tease my alcoholic cousins that drinking is sure proof of being gay because anyone that prefers to be in a bar around men is a latent homosexual, he was just trying to get psyche the relatives but there is a kernel of truth to that. At least for me, i understand it, i hate being around men, there just so fucking basic, predictable and stupid, it's always aggression, ego, confidence way past what they should have and it's draining. Prince being around women as much as he was, if he was bi he preferred women obviously.

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Reply #171 posted 09/28/17 11:25pm

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PeteSilas said:

CharismaDove said:

Idk. Prince having been bi is certainly not beyond the realm of possibility, but since he died I would've expected at least (at least just one) guy lover to come forward and say it. He has no rights in death so what's stopping the influx of stories ? Or even ONE story.

[Edited 9/28/17 22:33pm]

funny thing about prince though, he was so offbeat and wierd, even if someone did say those things when he was alive or even now, people i think would just say 'so what, big surprise" I really don't think people cared after a certain point unlike with some stars with whom the rumours never die, like oprah or whitney. the reason i always thought the gay things was a posture was just his actions from my vantage point as a fan, like i said, his need to hire women, to be around women is natural for men, i never would even criticize that, a man should rather be around women than men. I had an uncle who used to tease my alcoholic cousins that drinking is sure proof of being gay because anyone that prefers to be in a bar around men is a latent homosexual, he was just trying to get psyche the relatives but there is a kernel of truth to that. At least for me, i understand it, i hate being around men, there just so fucking basic, predictable and stupid, it's always aggression, ego, confidence way past what they should have and it's draining. Prince being around women as much as he was, if he was bi he preferred women obviously.

I agree with what you say about people not really caring after a certain point. I'm almost 20 and when Prince is brought up there's most of the times the inevitable 'he was kinda gay' comment but then others will shut it down and point out all his women (which he is famous for in the younger generation, his rep with the ladies is one of his most popular features) and the fact that he's dead and no ones ever claimed he was gay makes a lot of homophobic ppl look past it and enjoy him for what he was publicly - a straight, strange pretty-boy musician. Although thats not entirely a good thing -- the estate NEEDS to start promoting his other albums and works because he's TOO much looked at as the Purple Rain legend that was good at basketball and got girls. Freddie Mercury was openly gay and died of AIDS and many many teens/young adults love him regardless because his voice and hits are that famous and image comes second. Prince on the other hand musically has been confined to PR in the eyes of the younger generation and everything else is all about his image. So maybe people coming forward with gay stories about him might have a negative impact on that image as 'prettyman that fucked a lot of girls', but it's hard to say. If anything the impact will be negative b/c it would be a kind of 'I told you so' and in people's eyes it would be a second thing P 'lied' about (first being drugs)

I see what you saying about it being better to hang out with women but I guess that's different opinion for everyone. I love women but also a good night smoking or drinking or chilling with my bros. But the 'agression,ego,confidence' -- totally agree and that insecurity pisses me off 2

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Reply #172 posted 09/29/17 1:14am

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PeteSilas said:

JudasLChrist said:

I don't know. I know a friend of a friend who slept with Paul Stanley from Kiss in the 70s. We've talked about this with each other (me and my friends) but it's not like that guy is giving interviews to Entertainment Tonight about guys he tricked with in the 70s or something. The media has always been pretty invested in keeping closet doors closed, anyway.

stanley definitely comes across as gay and also a nice guy unlike gene who gets on everyones nerves.


Not really my point, but ok.

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Reply #173 posted 09/29/17 5:33am

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CharismaDove said:

PeteSilas said:

funny thing about prince though, he was so offbeat and wierd, even if someone did say those things when he was alive or even now, people i think would just say 'so what, big surprise" I really don't think people cared after a certain point unlike with some stars with whom the rumours never die, like oprah or whitney. the reason i always thought the gay things was a posture was just his actions from my vantage point as a fan, like i said, his need to hire women, to be around women is natural for men, i never would even criticize that, a man should rather be around women than men. I had an uncle who used to tease my alcoholic cousins that drinking is sure proof of being gay because anyone that prefers to be in a bar around men is a latent homosexual, he was just trying to get psyche the relatives but there is a kernel of truth to that. At least for me, i understand it, i hate being around men, there just so fucking basic, predictable and stupid, it's always aggression, ego, confidence way past what they should have and it's draining. Prince being around women as much as he was, if he was bi he preferred women obviously.

I agree with what you say about people not really caring after a certain point. I'm almost 20 and when Prince is brought up there's most of the times the inevitable 'he was kinda gay' comment but then others will shut it down and point out all his women (which he is famous for in the younger generation, his rep with the ladies is one of his most popular features) and the fact that he's dead and no ones ever claimed he was gay makes a lot of homophobic ppl look past it and enjoy him for what he was publicly - a straight, strange pretty-boy musician. Although thats not entirely a good thing -- the estate NEEDS to start promoting his other albums and works because he's TOO much looked at as the Purple Rain legend that was good at basketball and got girls. Freddie Mercury was openly gay and died of AIDS and many many teens/young adults love him regardless because his voice and hits are that famous and image comes second. Prince on the other hand musically has been confined to PR in the eyes of the younger generation and everything else is all about his image. So maybe people coming forward with gay stories about him might have a negative impact on that image as 'prettyman that fucked a lot of girls', but it's hard to say. If anything the impact will be negative b/c it would be a kind of 'I told you so' and in people's eyes it would be a second thing P 'lied' about (first being drugs)

I see what you saying about it being better to hang out with women but I guess that's different opinion for everyone. I love women but also a good night smoking or drinking or chilling with my bros. But the 'agression,ego,confidence' -- totally agree and that insecurity pisses me off 2

Yes I think the music in general should be put out there in a good way. The 'deluxed' editions is a pretty good route.

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I think WB from here on out releasing from the beginning to the end of the WB albums would be perfect. And since I assume Prince's memoirs started from the beginning on. If possible release it along side. The other company or just the Estate should release his albums post WB backwards from the last recorded live Piano & Microphone set.

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Luther Vandross, as known as he was, it was still never really discussed or talked about, and I doubt black radio or too many media outlets are ever going to delve into his homosexuality.

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Reply #174 posted 09/29/17 6:02am

PeteSilas


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Thread topic: The homo eroticism of his [Prince's] body of work

Back on topic please

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Reply #175 posted 09/30/17 2:58am

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While it doesn't come in at number 1, this line, this entire theme is likely the second biggest steaming pile of it I've seen on this site. Prince wasn't gay. Prince never tried to be gay. Prince never wanted to be gay. Possibly the only thing ever inserted in him was a thermometer. Anyone saying different is angling for the sake of an agenda.

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Reply #176 posted 09/30/17 6:44am

poppys

Homo-eroticism does not necessarily mean gay. This topic always goes there because some people can't handle it. And thanks for the visual of Prince getting a thermometer stuck up his butt - that's so nice.

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Reply #177 posted 09/30/17 7:24am

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poppys said:

Homo-eroticism does not necessarily mean gay. This topic always goes there because some people can't handle it. And thanks for the visual of Prince getting a thermometer stuck up his butt - that's so nice.

couldn't slip it under his tongue...he was busy using it.....now THAT'S nice!

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Reply #178 posted 09/30/17 7:52am

PeteSilas

what do you guys think of judas' stories? I had a gay friend before who said he heard rumours of eddie murphy being gay, i dismissed it at the time because this gay guy just came out of the closet and he was just projecting gay on everyone, even me, which ended our friendship, he did some wierd things and I didn't like it. anyway, his story about eddie at least seems to be true after all these years.

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Reply #179 posted 09/30/17 8:00am

poppys

Bodhitheblackdog said:

poppys said:

Homo-eroticism does not necessarily mean gay. This topic always goes there because some people can't handle it. And thanks for the visual of Prince getting a thermometer stuck up his butt - that's so nice.

couldn't slip it under his tongue...he was busy using it.....now THAT'S nice!


I have no idea what - what you said means but it sounds disgusting.

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