. Yeah, it sure is. . I've seen that quote before, what Prince said. He was adamant about supporting Tidal. I'm not sure what the comment about JayZ and B taking a lot of abuse. I'm not sure what he (P) meant by that...... .
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He might have been reffering to the HATE JayZ gets from a lot of people...
Google JAYZ Hate Lyrics
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Yep seems that way (referring to the bolded part) | |
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. Oh yes, I'm sure! . I'm very puzzled as to why Prince would associate with JayZ or anyone of his kind. I dunno, JayZ does not strike me as the type of dude that Prince would hang with, LOL
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Me neither...BUT
I think that by the time Tidal came along, Prince had experienced enough and more..
he would have had very good instincts about people....
I doubt that anyone could easily FOOL Prince....
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. Prince was very intelligent, indeed. He didn't mess around when it came to his business/music. . But then again, sometimes someone who seems "genuine", can also be deceiving. Sometimes, people are not who they claim to be.
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Why not? Jay-Z has been taking it to the record industry since he got in the game. He developed his own label, to put out his own music and by helping others become stars, made it so successful that The Island Def Jam Music Group wanted it and Jay sold his shares and had himself made CEO and President of Def Jam Recordings in the process. Other than that Solange whopping his ass in the elevator situation (pardon me...) he's not been tabloid ridden, he's damn close to being a billionaire in his own right. AND second only to the Beatles, Jay-Z has the most Number One albums of ANY artist. So what is it EXACTLY about "his kind" that makes you think he isn't " the type of dude that Prince would hang with"? [Edited 7/6/17 16:02pm] I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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that was well Put...
Ive said it before....I think there was Mutual respect....
and Even LOVE ( so shoot me IDC ) | |
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. JayZ's goal in life is to become a billionaire. Good for him. . So, streaming an artists music without authorization is okay? Tidal/JayZ makes all these claims, yet they have come forth with nothing so far. Where's the contract he had with Prince? No receipts? . I don't know about you, but when I purchase anything (clothes, house/ mortgage contracts, shoes, cars, music, concerts) whatever it may be; I have receipts to show the transaction occurred and that I paid for those items, and I have no problem with providing documentation, if asked. .
[Edited 7/6/17 16:22pm] "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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. JayZ's goal in life is to become a billionaire. Good for him. . So, streaming an artists music without authorization is okay? Tidal/JayZ makes all these claims, yet they have come forth with nothing so far. Where's the contract he had with Prince? No receipts? . I don't know about you, but when I purchase anything (clothes, house/ mortgage contracts, shoes, cars, music, concerts) whatever it may be; I have receipts to show the transaction occurred and that I paid for those items, and I have no problem with providing documentation, if asked. .
[Edited 7/6/17 16:22pm] It's clear Prince made an agreement with Tidal and was happy with it due to the exclusive music he delivered to the service and the statements he made in his lifetime. There is no concrete evidence yet that Tidal put up any 'unauthorised' Prince music and Tidal still has the largest selection of Prince music of any streaming outlet. There was certainly no unauthorised Prince music on Tidal during Prince's lifetime. If so Prince would've withdrawn support. Yet that is exactly what Londell claimed. Most of which can be disproved merely by reading Prince's twitter. Tidal has some kind of evidence because they're proceeding to court. My understanding is that all meetings between Prince and Jay-Z were filmed. They were also working on a documentary together. | |
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I don't think his "goal in life is to become a billionaire". I believe it was to become a successful music Artist with control of his own music. The becoming a billionaire while doing so part is just a testament to his savvy. Speaking of which, unless I've missed something, Jay-Z has "receipts" as far as the streaming of Prince's music is concerned, which is why this is still playing out in court and Tidal hasn't yet been 'ordered' to take his music down. [Edited 7/6/17 16:59pm] I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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EXACTLY! I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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. As far as NPG was concerned, Tidal only had rights to stream Hit n Run Phase 2. NPG claims they do not know of any deal to stream Prince's entire catalogue. Tidal was streaming most of Prince's music on June 7, 2016, then the estate put a stop to it, and Prince was deceased at that time, so he was not here to say if it was legit or not. . Like I said, I'm sure Prince was in agreement for Hit n Run, but we do not have concrete evidence of an agreement for Tidal to be streaming his other music. . It's all tied-up in litigation now, so I guess we will eventually find out the truth of the matter.
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. Exactly what? The story of his meetings with JayZ/Tidal being video taped is all hearsay, is it not?
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. . As far as I know, JayZ does not work for himself, he works for the record companies and he was involved with the start-up of Tidal with various other people. He didn't do it on his own. . We will see the truth when the Judge has the final say. Only time will tell. .
[Edited 7/6/17 17:20pm] "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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YES.....I recall reading THAT Somewhere too | |
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I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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cloveringold85 said:
. As far as NPG was concerned, Tidal only had rights to stream Hit n Run Phase 2. NPG claims they do not know of any deal to stream Prince's entire catalogue. Tidal was streaming most of Prince's music on June 7, 2016, then the estate put a stop to it, and Prince was deceased at that time, so he was not here to say if it was legit or not. . Like I said, I'm sure Prince was in agreement for Hit n Run, but we do not have concrete evidence of an agreement for Tidal to be streaming his other music. . It's all tied-up in litigation now, so I guess we will eventually find out the truth of the matter.
But many of those albums, including rare NPG Music Club releases, were available on Tidal during Prince's lifetime, way before June 7. It was way more that Hit n Run phase one and Prince was obviously aware of it as he tweeted Tidal links to many of these recordings and was still providing exclusive music to Tidal days before his passing. As I mentioned, many of these claims can be disproven by merely reading Prince's twitter account and interviews from the period. The fact is, Prince withdrew all his music from all other streaming services and provided a large part of his back catalog to Tidal way before his passing and obviously with full awareness. [Edited 7/6/17 17:49pm] | |
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. JayZ will never be a lone wolf. You're only a "lone wolf" if you own your work and you are your own boss. This is what Prince fought for with WB for years! When you go to work every day, you have to answer to your boss. You don't own anything--you get a paycheck and that's it. . That's why Prince wrote "SLAVE" on his face, because he knew he didn't own his work!
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. Thanks for the clarification. I don't buy from Tidal, so I wouldn't know if they were streaming Prince's music before his untimely passing. I only go by what the court documents are stating.
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Yet, in what very unfortunately would become the end, Prince had gone with Jay-Z and what he felt was right about Tidal for him and his music. Since this is still going through the courts, I do agree with you on the fact that we'll just have to wait and see how it all turns out. I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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Yeah, not only were they streaming the bulk of his catalog, but beginning in September 2015 they were offerning the previously NPGMC download only albums (Xpectation, C-Note, The Chocolate Invasion, and The Slaughterhouse). There were agreements and support. His last release was on Tidal three days before he died (the live Black Sweat from Atlanta that went up on April 18). Now, there might not have been a contract, or at least not one that actually required a whole lot from Prince--Prince had been bragging for years that he didn't get conned into contracts. But there was clearly a certain amount of agreement and a working relationship that went up until his death. I don't doubt at all that Jay-Z thought that should count for something when it came to the negotiations for the catalog, and I'm sure he felt a little betrayed by the estate--that doesn't mean he has a legal leg to stand on. But if Prince had lived, I strongly suspect the relationship would have continued. | |
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I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart. | |
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Agree 100% | |
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The fans keep saying TIDAL has proof but TIDAL has NOT proven anything LMAO
I think the reason why TIDAL is dragging is because there isn't a contract. | |
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Outside of pure legal reasons, and Londell being able to void the deal to make revenue and a lucrative fee for himself elsewhere, you do not require any documentation to be able to comprehend Prince's wishes. You need only look at all the exclusive music Prince delivered to Tidal, which continued until only days before his passing, his tweets and his statements in interviews.
I joined Tidal because Prince stated that the service would be the destination for exclusive music and his back catalog. Prince clearly gave Tidal those albums, some of which were rare NPGMC releases (where the hell do people think Tidal acquired albums like C-Note and RaveIN2?) during his lifetime. I know because I was there, listening to these albums and waiting expectantly for each weeks 'Purple Pick'. Prince was actively promoting and providing content to Tidal in clear awareness. To state anything to the contrary is for ulterior motives and purposes that have nothing to do with Prince's wishes. Spotify might be lucrative for the estate and Londell, but it was something Prince was opposed to and very vocally. | |
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They are not dragging their feet. They hava a court date set and they say they have a signed equity agreement. Even if they did not have anything signed they sent him money and he sent them content it is called an implied agreement. All Tidal has to do is show they paid him but do you really think they paid infour payments of $750k even after he died without any signed agreement? Your problem is that you do not realize that Tidal is a subsidary of Asperio do you think the parent company would be okay with paying out money with no contract? Not too mention the media coverage and actual delivery of content that makes it obvious that Tidal was not going against Prince's wishes.
What people need to be more concerned about is the fact that Tidal is saying someone had POA to sign some documents on Prince's behalf if Tidal provides proof of that and we find out who that person was well the shoe is going to drop on all this mystery surounding his last days.
Because I do not belive he would have given anyone POA unless his heatlh was compromised. [Edited 7/7/17 7:17am] | |
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agree with you on this one LR...keep your eyes on the POA document (s) | |
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