Purplebflogirl said:

mjscarousal said:

Yall are so got damn naive. Jay Z only calling them out because he is not getting a piece of the pie. This is the same fool that said he gives flowers to his mistresses.

No doubt..But it doesn't mean there isn't some truth in those lyrics

Jay Z is a known liar and famous for embellishing things in his rap songs. He is a poser and is only using the Prince connection for PR. I don't know why you all give this guy the benefit of the doubt. He wasn't even close with Prince.

mjscarousal said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Tittypants said:

I need some statistics on this "FACT".

So....a couple of "African American" women you worked with speaks for most black people's opinions now & Jay-Z is the cause for all of the bad shit that's ever happened in the "communites"....


......okay.

Dude, I didn't say all African-Americans don't like him. Stop trying to create a further derailed arguement. I said many African-American do not like JayZ

Is there some law that says "Thou Must Like JayZ if Thou Identify As Black?" Hell U dam well a whole bunch of them don't like Beyonce or Floyonce as people call her.

That fact is that those ladies were African-American. No more proof.

and neither does Kanye West lol

Kanye West Loses His Mind, Calls Out Beyoncé and Jay Z

Jay Z Criticized For “All-White” Tidal Staff Photo

http://www.bet.com/news/music/2015/05/29/commentary-simmer-down-everybody-jay-z-cares-about-black-people.html

Jay Z Under Fire by Black Scholar for 'Pulling Out the Race Card'

http://www.thewrap.com/jay-z-under-fire-for-pulling-out-the-race-card-in-tidal-debate/

But nationally known scholar, Boyce D. Watkins, Ph.D., who frequently speaks out on issues involving social justice, tells TheWrap Jay Z may have gone too far.

“He’s invoking the names of Freddie Gray, Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown, which have become somewhat sacred in the black community, and you’re invoking those into this conversation you’re having about whether your

multimillion-dollar corporation is going to be successful or not?” Watkins said. “I think that that unfortunately can come off as somewhat disingenuous, because I don’t recall Jay Z ever really being that vocal, that irate over any issue that did not involve himself

https://www.cultofmac.com/323844/rapper-explains-why-jay-z-is-smearing-apple-with-the-race-card/

http://watercoolerconvos.com/2013/11/17/thanks-for-nothing-jay-z-said-black-people-everywhere/

You pulled out whatever articles you could [& poorly I will add], YET I still don't see anything about him robbing anyone. He's done much better than most with the power he has, if you're paying attention properly.

btw, You missed these FACTS: https://www.theguardian.c...do-castile

https://www.looktothestar...united-way

https://www.washingtonpos...dcf6d08dc6

http://www.okayplayer.com...atter.html

http://www.24flix.com/201...ild-haiti/

I really wanna see you go this hard @ a person of a different ethnicity. (You've expressed that you're bi-racial in the past & so am I.)

mjscarousal said:

Tittypants said:

precioux said:

Purplebflogirl said:

IMHO ( not a fan of Jay Z btw) Eric Benet needs to be quiet..His " baddest girl in town" was posting about her ex for months,fought a court order because it showed that she wanted over 40k a month in alimony,,I ain't saying she's a gold digger..And to top it off ..Eric has the nerve to sing her exes songs. Sit down Eric..

"I ain't sayin she's a gold digga...but she is dealing with a fixin to be broke [N word variation snip - luv4u]"...that's WHY Eric's skank ass is doing covers-he better *duck* for cover before ever coming 'round here with that BULLSH*T!

laurarichardson said:

mjscarousal said:

Jay Z is a known liar and famous for embellishing things in his rap songs. He is a poser and is only using the Prince connection for PR. I don't know why you all give this guy the benefit of the doubt. He wasn't even close with Prince.

You have no idea how close they were and contracts are about a mutual exchange. Without an exchange there is no contract. Do you honestly think this case is moving forward for no reason whatsoever? It is not about your personal feelings about JayZ it is about what can be proved in court. If they paid Prince money and are still owed content Tidal has a right to get it.

The way he/TIDAL acted right after Prince died shows that he obviously does not respect Prince and it IS worth mentioning that Jay Z embellishing things in his rap songs and often lies. Why is that not worth mentioning? I am not sure why you have so much trust in a man that cannot be trusted. Nothing has been proven in court yet so its interesting you are siding with him.

mjscarousal said:

tishal said:

maybe Prince was trying to save his life by using tidal....jayz would put a good word in for him at WB

Jay Z is greedy. It's sad how Prince was supporting that bulls*** Tidal platform.

TKO said:

Jay Z is greedy.

Prince, WB, and nobody else was/is though right?

DD55 said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Actually it was inconvienent.
I actually defended Jay Z and pulled out information about how he turned his life around and did thing to help others do the same.
But they weren't having it.

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I definately did not have to share that to prove that there are African-Americans that do not like Jay Z. Is there a rule book that says in order to be black you must like jay z. How many older African-Americans don't really know who he is and don't care? Millions

I think people are confusing Jay-Z the hip hop artist and Sean Carter the businessman.

JayZ, -- 'if you don’t like his lyrics press fast forward’. (99 problems)

Jay Z is an entertainer, you like his music or you don’t, why say bad things about him personally? Just say you don’t like the music if that’s the case. Move on.

Sean Carter, has proven himself to be a successful businessman and worked with Prince with mutual respect.

Sheesh, leave race out of it.

DD55

Race shouldnt be left out of it just for the reasons you stated. If dude was some other, would he be seen as savy, resourceful, intelligent, cunning etc. He's not probably due to his skin color..even by African-Americans. Why is the org worried about race discussion as an an aside to thread derailement when 99% of threads are derailed and nothing is said?Why so damn scary about real life problems out of this purple fantasy bs.
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TKO said:

OperatingThetan said:

TKO said:

Jay Z is greedy. It's sad how Prince was supporting that bulls*** Tidal platform.

Prince supported that platform because Jay-Z was not as greedy as Spotify and iTunes and he was being paid what he thought he deserved while retaining ownership of his work.

bam!

rdhull said:

DD55 said:

I think people are confusing Jay-Z the hip hop artist and Sean Carter the businessman.

JayZ, -- 'if you don’t like his lyrics press fast forward’. (99 problems)

Jay Z is an entertainer, you like his music or you don’t, why say bad things about him personally? Just say you don’t like the music if that’s the case. Move on.

Sean Carter, has proven himself to be a successful businessman and worked with Prince with mutual respect.

Sheesh, leave race out of it.

DD55

Race shouldnt be left out of it just for the reasons you stated. If dude was some other, would he be seen as savy, resourceful, intelligent, cunning etc. He's not probably due to his skin color..even by African-Americans. Why is the org worried about race discussion as an an aside to thread derailement when 99% of threads are derailed and nothing is said?Why so damn scary about real life problems out of this purple fantasy bs.
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[Edited 7/1/17 13:35pm]

but the quick assumption that Prince fans here don't like the Jay Z connection because of race is simple and so overlooking all the other real reasons they don't like it.
U have been a Prince fan long enough to know most people around these parts Don't like a lot of inbetweeners between them and Prince. Jay Z became an inbetweener.

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And if he was Jewish, people would go after that ethnic group with all their stereotypes if their issue is race.

rdhull said:

Some of y'all using that eww jay is icky and not even trying to use common sense about what anything is about... gotta love the 2017 org

not much different bro and U still came back

Tittypants said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

Dude, I didn't say all African-Americans don't like him. Stop trying to create a further derailed arguement. I said many African-American do not like JayZ

Is there some law that says "Thou Must Like JayZ if Thou Identify As Black?" Hell U dam well a whole bunch of them don't like Beyonce or Floyonce as people call her.

That fact is that those ladies were African-American. No more proof.

and neither does Kanye West lol

Kanye West Loses His Mind, Calls Out Beyoncé and Jay Z

Jay Z Criticized For “All-White” Tidal Staff Photo

http://www.bet.com/news/music/2015/05/29/commentary-simmer-down-everybody-jay-z-cares-about-black-people.html

Jay Z Under Fire by Black Scholar for 'Pulling Out the Race Card'

http://www.thewrap.com/jay-z-under-fire-for-pulling-out-the-race-card-in-tidal-debate/

But nationally known scholar, Boyce D. Watkins, Ph.D., who frequently speaks out on issues involving social justice, tells TheWrap Jay Z may have gone too far.

“He’s invoking the names of Freddie Gray, Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown, which have become somewhat sacred in the black community, and you’re invoking those into this conversation you’re having about whether your

multimillion-dollar corporation is going to be successful or not?” Watkins said. “I think that that unfortunately can come off as somewhat disingenuous, because I don’t recall Jay Z ever really being that vocal, that irate over any issue that did not involve himself

https://www.cultofmac.com/323844/rapper-explains-why-jay-z-is-smearing-apple-with-the-race-card/

http://watercoolerconvos.com/2013/11/17/thanks-for-nothing-jay-z-said-black-people-everywhere/

You pulled out whatever articles you could [& poorly I will add], YET I still don't see anything about him robbing anyone. He's done much better than most with the power he has, if you're paying attention properly.

btw, You missed these FACTS: https://www.theguardian.c...do-castile

https://www.looktothestar...united-way

https://www.washingtonpos...dcf6d08dc6

http://www.okayplayer.com...atter.html

http://www.24flix.com/201...ild-haiti/

I really wanna see you go this hard @ a person of a different ethnicity. (You've expressed that you're bi-racial in the past & so am I.)

Titty

U R probably allegedly a Jay Z fan.
That is cool.
I'm not, but I don't dislike Jay Z either. Just not a fan.

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poorly or not U asked for proof that Black folk have a problem with Jay Z.
I provided it. It was late at night. I was not in the mood to make it all nice

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What U posted means nothing to what we were originally talking about.
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Again, I don't have a problem with Jay Z as a person. Get that through your head.
U R the one pushing hard on this. Like Jay Z don't like him.
As I told Rdhull. Prince fans tend to want direct access to Prince. They bitched when he signed back with WB, they bitched when he signed with Tidal. We had hard times even with LotusFlow3r.com and 3rdEye.com Prince fans want access. There was that almost 3yr period where PRince didn't release an album. The last 6 years were a little ruff.

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What up swirl bro

But what I've expressed identity wise means nothing here, I've defended Jay Z as a person, and I like his wife. Having issues with Tidal has nothing with Jay Z and race. I wanted access to hardcopy albums. Back then when this was all talked about the word was you had to sign up/pay a fee with Tidal.
U could be triracial, and none of this matters as far as my thoughts on the subject.

U r making a biased assumption that it must not be 'black folk' who have issue with Jay Z.

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im a huge Roots/Questluv fan, and if he was tidal, I would still have a reaction. But because I see him like us a hardcore Prince fan I would think differently.

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Your post was the one that interjected 'race' You came to Jay Z's defense.
by post #13

peoples posts prior to your 'agreed' 'partially agreed' 'disagreed'

So unless everyone agrees with your take on things, it must be racism?

laurarichardson said:

Tittypants said:

You pulled out whatever articles you could [& poorly I will add], YET I still don't see anything about him robbing anyone. He's done much better than most with the power he has, if you're paying attention properly.

btw, You missed these FACTS: https://www.theguardian.c...do-castile

https://www.looktothestar...united-way

https://www.washingtonpos...dcf6d08dc6

http://www.okayplayer.com...atter.html

http://www.24flix.com/201...ild-haiti/

I really wanna see you go this hard @ a person of a different ethnicity. (You've expressed that you're bi-racial in the past & so am I.)

--Are you surprised that we still do not the many lies and crimes of Jay Z.

Clear that up please.
I doubt anyone understood it.

OldFriends4Sale said:

rdhull said:

Some of y'all using that eww jay is icky and not even trying to use common sense about what anything is about... gotta love the 2017 org

not much different bro and U still came back

stop being defensive

rdhull said:

OldFriends4Sale said:

not much different bro and U still came back

stop being defensive

uh that isn't being defensive

you came back with the full knowledge of what U were coming back to

OldFriends4Sale said:

rdhull said:

stop being defensive

uh that isn't being defensive

you came back with the full knowledge of what U were coming back to

SNIP -OF4S

OldFriends4Sale said:

laurarichardson said:

Tittypants said: --Are you surprised that we still do not the many lies and crimes of Jay Z.

Clear that up please.
I doubt anyone understood it.

A bunch of links that tells us knowing about his crimes and lies. Did you know read Tittpants response they sum it up very well.

OldFriends4Sale said:

rdhull said:

Race shouldnt be left out of it just for the reasons you stated. If dude was some other, would he be seen as savy, resourceful, intelligent, cunning etc. He's not probably due to his skin color..even by African-Americans. Why is the org worried about race discussion as an an aside to thread derailement when 99% of threads are derailed and nothing is said?Why so damn scary about real life problems out of this purple fantasy bs.
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[Edited 7/1/17 13:35pm]

but the quick assumption that Prince fans here don't like the Jay Z connection because of race is simple and so overlooking all the other real reasons they don't like it.
U have been a Prince fan long enough to know most people around these parts Don't like a lot of inbetweeners between them and Prince. Jay Z became an inbetweener.

.

And if he was Jewish, people would go after that ethnic group with all their stereotypes if their issue is race.

Not one person has given and logical, legal or sound reason that they do not like the Prince connection. Not a single one. If if he was Jewish no one would be routing for his business to fail. I never saw anyone cheering for Facebook to fail.

Some of you have not taken the time to read about Tidal's case and just do not like rap music or are just racist which is bizzare considering Prince was certainly black

[Edited 7/1/17 19:09pm]

OperatingThetan said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

OperatingThetan said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Read Princes messages...they are clear. Maybe he gave him some music so he wouldn't wind up like he did. You are aware of what Prince said about JayZ when he refused to appear at that charity concert and when Prince did not show up Jay Z was mad and burned Princes hit and run CDs saying some disturbing things.... Look it up the info is out there.

This is complete nonsense and b.s conspiracy theories. I guess you probably think Jay-Z is a 'satanist' and part of the illuminati as well, right? You are making way too much of Prince's no-show at that concert. Prince shared live performances and plenty of additional material with Tidal well after that occured. It really wasn't that significant.

There is no proof about that concert that anything happend beyond Prince not making it. If things were so bad between Tidal and Prince why was the Baltimore concert broadcast on Tidal? Why did Prince continue to send them content up and until the week before he died Was someone putting a gun to heads and forcing him to work with Tidal. Read the court docs nothing is going on with Tidal that was not going on with the UMG deal. More laywers trying to breach contacts to get commission checks.