sonshine said:

He looked beautiful, yet thin. Very thin. All the recent photos, even professional shots, his face is much thinner. His clothing hung off his frame. Beautiful as ever tho, just very thin. Anyone who can't see it or thinks its simply due to aging is being unrealistic. If anything aging tends to put weight on, turn muscle into flabbiness. He may not have been a lot lighter on the scales, but he had lost almost all muscle tone. Besides black men seem to retain muscle tone well into their middle or even later years especially if they were fit their entire lives. Poor Prince. My heart hurts. I wish i could watch the link provided at the beginning of this thread, but i'm just not ready yet.

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I agree. He was always very thin, but even more so in the last couple of years of his life. And, you are correct; we lose muscle mass as we age and It did not appear that Prince was working out in his later years; not like he did when he was touring and performing 10-20 years ago.

cloveringold85 said:

pricetag said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Thanks for spelling it out, Laura. I have to hand it to you. You certainly have more patience than I do when dealing with people's bullshit.

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Did you study comprehension at school? Based on your response I have to assume you don't know the difference between fact and fiction. Isn't it plain that the above is still conjecture. Read it again. If you don't see this then you have my pity.

Do you have a reading problem. Because I have asked for your and others to point out what is not factual? I am still waiting.

cloveringold85 said:

Asenath0607 said:

twinnies said:

Why do you think he went back to the afro?

I was wondering that also. As I thought about it, even though Prince indicated that he wasn't into age; I pondered what would be an appropriate hair style for a man approaching his mid 50s. I just can't see a man in his 50s with "pressed/relaxed" hair (no offense to anyone personally). In my opinion yes his fro looked more becoming when it was smaller; but I think it was a good choice to let go of the pressed look.

I thought he went back to the afro as a throw back to him beginning his career. I believe Prince was slowing down creatively. I also believe he was preparing for life without touring or music. My logic is planning PP for a musuem, rental properties. I have not facts or insight, just my opinion.

This is a sad sad thread. What is the point?

rogifan said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I agree. He was always very thin, but even more so in the last couple of years of his life. And, you are correct; we lose muscle mass as we age and It did not appear that Prince was working out in his later years; not like he did when he was touring and performing 10-20 years ago.

Can we state for a fact he was thinner because of pain medication? I'd be curious to know about this from others who take meds for pain. Is weight loss a typical side effect?

If he was vomiting or had an upset stomach that would account for weight loss due to the use of pills but he was not a big man and he was a vegetarian so it would not take much for him to lose weight.

rogifan said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I agree. He was always very thin, but even more so in the last couple of years of his life. And, you are correct; we lose muscle mass as we age and It did not appear that Prince was working out in his later years; not like he did when he was touring and performing 10-20 years ago.

Can we state for a fact he was thinner because of pain medication? I'd be curious to know about this from others who take meds for pain. Is weight loss a typical side effect?

No, we can not state for a fact he was thinner because of pain meds.

It's from person to person.

Some people gain weight on painkillers.

moonsister said:

cloveringold85 said:

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That was his REAL hair, folks!! We've had this debate before.

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You can see the natural hairline. (see below) -- do you see his natural hairline? It's IDENTICAL!!

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http://www.voguewigs.com/...fgodfY0LmQ So not only did he not lose hair, his hair got thicker?? [url]

+1 & Agreed....Plus no man on this earth keeps the same exact hairline as he ages...it is really not a issue as we all age and any man even at 57 is going to show age....then throw up a pic of when he was a teenager saying " see same hairline??" lol unreal...no common sense & to all the kim berry well she said posts- just simply look at pics before the afro or that video pointed out earlier....quite clear & easy to see....this guy named Prince was not Jesus but some on here act as though....just hold on 2 yo' wig & peace & bwild.

rogifan said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I agree. He was always very thin, but even more so in the last couple of years of his life. And, you are correct; we lose muscle mass as we age and It did not appear that Prince was working out in his later years; not like he did when he was touring and performing 10-20 years ago.

Can we state for a fact he was thinner because of pain medication? I'd be curious to know about this from others who take meds for pain. Is weight loss a typical side effect?

Medically speaking-No. Weight loss is not a usual side effect of taking pain meds.

If he was withdrawing and sick, minimal weight loss for a brief amount of time.

Aditionally, someone who is "getting clean" tends to actually put on weight....

So, Imo...there was something else going on entirely in regards to the weight loss. UNLESS he tore up his system over a long period of time as a direct result of taking pain meds. My thoughts lie with the former statement

laurarichardson said:

pricetag said:

cloveringold85 said: Did you study comprehension at school? Based on your response I have to assume you don't know the difference between fact and fiction. Isn't it plain that the above is still conjecture. Read it again. If you don't see this then you have my pity.

Do you have a reading problem. Because I have asked for your and others to point out what is not factual? I am still waiting.

Now you're being silly. Let's start with your very first "fact": Prince had 65k in medical expenses on his inventory sheet. ( Do people usually have that type of expense for buying illegal drugs on a form that is going to the IRS).

Again, see how you're making the leap here? It's sloppy, lazy thinking. You know nothing of the items that made up this expense. Perhaps it was for legal anti-addiction drugs. In your world, if he wasn't buying illegal drugs then he wasn't addicted to any drugs. I know you know better.

Move on situation. Everything else is about YOU!

laurarichardson said:

SignOthetimes1987 said:

^^ Speculation.

Mkilpatrick74 said:

laurarichardson said:

Actually they were not laying around they were in bottles in his living quarters. I do not recall anyone saying they found pills in the studios or under seat cushions or in his cars.It was about 100 pills and a few people on this board who get these pills say they come in 90 day batches. Prince did not have a pill factory in Paisley Park and considering it is a 65 Sq foot facilty he could have hid these pills well enough so they could not be found at all. Think about that for a moment. The security cameras were off so we have no idea what happened in that building until the EMT arrived. [Edited 5/30/17 14:24pm]

That is not a lot of pills. I get 180 pain pills every thirtty days. I have to take a pain pill every 4 hours. And I'm on some STRONG SHIT. they are no longer allowed to be prescribed in any manner except 30 day supply. If Prince was in pain like myself then 3 a day which equals 90 pills, he would not be getting the relief be needed. Not by using anything like Norco or hydrocodone. He would have had to move up to Percocet or straight oxycodone. [Edited 6/1/17 10:24am]

Thank you for saying this as it appears to me he was following a supply schudule perhaps if had an RX in the past this was his supply or perhaps he was trying to ween himself and got some input from Dr.S apparently some were cut in half. This just does not sound like some plowing pills down their mouth but maybe trying to ween themselves.

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

There is a sickness adjoined to Laura's Famdom.

pricetag said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Thanks for spelling it out, Laura. I have to hand it to you. You certainly have more patience than I do when dealing with people's bullshit.

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Did you study comprehension at school? Based on your response I have to assume you don't know the difference between fact and fiction. Isn't it plain that the above is still conjecture. Read it again. If you don't see this then you have my pity.

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Look, I don't want or need your pity. I said in my last post to you that I was done with your nonsense! I haven't addressed you, so please stop commenting on my posts. Thank you!

laurarichardson said:

pricetag said:

cloveringold85 said: Did you study comprehension at school? Based on your response I have to assume you don't know the difference between fact and fiction. Isn't it plain that the above is still conjecture. Read it again. If you don't see this then you have my pity.

Do you have a reading problem. Because I have asked for your and others to point out what is not factual? I am still waiting.

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Yes, so am I.

laurarichardson said:

rogifan said:

cloveringold85 said: Can we state for a fact he was thinner because of pain medication? I'd be curious to know about this from others who take meds for pain. Is weight loss a typical side effect?

If he was vomiting or had an upset stomach that would account for weight loss due to the use of pills but he was not a big man and he was a vegetarian so it would not take much for him to lose weight.

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I would imagine that didn't have much of an appetite, considering he was feeling sick with supposedly sore throat and stomach problems. And yes, that could all be the result of the meds he was on.

cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

Do you have a reading problem. Because I have asked for your and others to point out what is not factual? I am still waiting.

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Yes, so am I.

See my eviseration above. Late to the party, as usual.

cloveringold85 said:

pricetag said:

cloveringold85 said: Did you study comprehension at school? Based on your response I have to assume you don't know the difference between fact and fiction. Isn't it plain that the above is still conjecture. Read it again. If you don't see this then you have my pity.

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Look, I don't want or need your pity. I said in my last post to you that I was done with your nonsense! I haven't addressed you, so please stop commenting on my posts. Thank you!

...and yet you keep coming back. Of course your response was adressed, albeit indirectly, to me. Again, just like your arguments, this plea feels shady.

jimmy3121 said:

moonsister said:

cloveringold85 said: http://www.voguewigs.com/...fgodfY0LmQ So not only did he not lose hair, his hair got thicker?? [url]

+1 & Agreed....Plus no man on this earth keeps the same exact hairline as he ages...it is really not a issue as we all age and any man even at 57 is going to show age....then throw up a pic of when he was a teenager saying " see same hairline??" lol unreal...no common sense & to all the kim berry well she said posts- just simply look at pics before the afro or that video pointed out earlier....quite clear & easy to see....this guy named Prince was not Jesus but some on here act as though....just hold on 2 yo' wig & peace & bwild.

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Hey, Smartass! I was showing a pic of when he was younger for comparison! I still have the same hairline that I have had since a child. Some people's hairline receds, but not much. All you have to do is Goolgle Prince's afro/hair and you can see that he still had his own natural hair.

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No common sense? Your comment is so dumb that it doesn't even deserve a response.

rogifan said:

precioux said:

Medically speaking-No. Weight loss is not a usual side effect of taking pain meds.

If he was withdrawing and sick, minimal weight loss for a brief amount of time.

Aditionally, someone who is "getting clean" tends to actually put on weight....

So, Imo...there was something else going on entirely in regards to the weight loss. UNLESS he tore up his system over a long period of time as a direct result of taking pain meds. My thoughts lie with the former statement

That's what I thought. I asked the question cuz it seems like people are making a correlation with his weight and using pain meds. I am also of the opinion that something else was causing his weight loss. And I think he was conscious of it because when one of the Twins was at PP (either in 2015 or 2016) photographing Prince he asked her if she thought he looked too skinny.

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Usually, people who are drug addicts do not eat much, or don't eat at all. Their drug is their food of choice. I remember when Dave Gahan was using heroin, he looked like hell. He was always thin, but he looked like a walking skeleton when he was using.

rogifan said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I agree. He was always very thin, but even more so in the last couple of years of his life. And, you are correct; we lose muscle mass as we age and It did not appear that Prince was working out in his later years; not like he did when he was touring and performing 10-20 years ago.

Can we state for a fact he was thinner because of pain medication? I'd be curious to know about this from others who take meds for pain. Is weight loss a typical side effect?

You know what can really wreck one's appetite? Being in pain.

pricetag said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Look, I don't want or need your pity. I said in my last post to you that I was done with your nonsense! I haven't addressed you, so please stop commenting on my posts. Thank you!

...and yet you keep coming back. Of course your response was adressed, albeit indirectly, to me. Again, just like your arguments, this plea feels shady.

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I asked you nicely to stop replying to my posts that were not addressed to YOU. I'm not going to ask again.

pricetag said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Look, I don't want or need your pity. I said in my last post to you that I was done with your nonsense! I haven't addressed you, so please stop commenting on my posts. Thank you!

...and yet you keep coming back. Of course your response was adressed, albeit indirectly, to me. Again, just like your arguments, this plea feels shady.

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No, you are wrong and delusional.