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. That is some really scary stuff!! The stories on the internet just keep coming; it's really terrible what's going on. .
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Mkilpatrick74 said: leadline said:
He coulda been there for pepto bismol for all we know, there are no records of prescriptions being picked up from that pharmacy. Did anyone else catch the comment in article that said Prince had complained about not feeling well In the hours prior to his death?? I didn't catch that b4. I wonder who he told that to ....wbo spoke to P just HOURS prior to his death? God that makes me angry bc clearly someone knew he was feeling bad again and should have insisted they stay w him. I'm guessing he had taken a couple of pain pills earlier in day and maybe they had fent in them but at a lower dose and he was starting to get sick from it that night. Then he takes the one with the huge amount in it and that was all she wrote. Sighhhsss.. my heart hurts. Truly. All I can say is thank you Prince you saved my life. Love and miss you!! The thing that makes fentanyl even worse to use is that the high does not last long. Its intense but i once heard an addict describe it as being in a constant state of coming down. And any addict will tell you the coming down part is the worst part of their day. So the fentanyl addict is caught in a horrible cycle of getting high then immediately searching for their next fix. Over and over and over several times each day, every day. Their lives have to be true hell on earth. It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN | |
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. Well, if Prince took those pills knowing they were illicit street drugs, then that would seem intentional. However, the ME documented on the autopsy that it was "accidential" overdose. . I mean, did he think he was taking a mild pain reliever? He already had Percocet/Oxy laying around the house, so he could have easily overdoses on those if he wanted to, ya know? . I get what you are saying. We don't know if it was intentional, accident, or murder. But, as it stands now, there are a select few who look very shady right now, and one being KJ.
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. So, it is your belief that Prince wanted out? You think he had enough and was ready to go in an elevator, and clothes on backwards? You think with that much Fentanyl in his body, he had the strength to walk to the elevator on his own?
No. No. And No. I know you werent asking me but still.  It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN | |
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. Wow, that's really bad. When an addict is coming down from a drug, they get anxious for their next "fix". It's a vicious cycle. It's like, you have that fear in your head that your "high" is going away. So very sad to think that Prince had gotten to that dark place. Also, the fact that he didn't have any Fentanyl in his system in Moline, leads me to believe that this Fentanyl was something new he was trying, and you don't take Fentanyl, unless you are under a doctor's care and have exhausted all other means of treating your chronic pain. . Just so very sad.
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. Ha-ha, it's all good! . You are allowed to respond to any post you want to! . And, I agree with you.
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We need to see more stories like this: http://www.nbcnews.com/st...ic-n766706 The National Institutes of Health announced a new push Wednesday to fight the opioid crisis, with fresh efforts to develop better drugs to fight addiction, to treat pain, and to stop overdoses. The giant agency — the world's biggest funder of medical research — is meeting with drugmakers to figure out the best and fastest ways to come up with a better solution to treating pain than the current addictive opioid class of drugs. "Every day, more than 90 Americans die from opioid overdoses," NIH director Dr. Francis Collins and Dr. Nora Volkow, head of the NIH's National Institute for Drug Abuse, wrote in a special report for the New England Journal of Medicine. Collins said the NIH will be meeting with "a dozen or more" drug companies over the coming weeks to develop better overdose drugs; better drugs to treat opioid addiction; and pain drugs that not only work better, but that are not addictive. "Some may be reformulations of drugs that we already know can be used for treatment of overdoses," Collins told reporters. "Some of them will be totally new ideas about pathways that have been recently discovered." Paisley Park is in your heart
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rogifan said: We need to see more stories like this: http://www.nbcnews.com/st...ic-n766706 The National Institutes of Health announced a new push Wednesday to fight the opioid crisis, with fresh efforts to develop better drugs to fight addiction, to treat pain, and to stop overdoses. The giant agency — the world's biggest funder of medical research — is meeting with drugmakers to figure out the best and fastest ways to come up with a better solution to treating pain than the current addictive opioid class of drugs. "Every day, more than 90 Americans die from opioid overdoses," NIH director Dr. Francis Collins and Dr. Nora Volkow, head of the NIH's National Institute for Drug Abuse, wrote in a special report for the New England Journal of Medicine. Collins said the NIH will be meeting with "a dozen or more" drug companies over the coming weeks to develop better overdose drugs; better drugs to treat opioid addiction; and pain drugs that not only work better, but that are not addictive. "Some may be reformulations of drugs that we already know can be used for treatment of overdoses," Collins told reporters. "Some of them will be totally new ideas about pathways that have been recently discovered." I think this is awesome nees!! Makes me hopedul that i eill one day be able.tp wean off my high dose of pain meds that I have to live on to have any sort of quality of life. I recently had a discussion w my pain Dr about backing down my meds and we tried and the pain was unbearable. I was again bed ridden so he told me although I'm on a high dose he cannot justify taking me off and destroying my quality of life. He said as long as I continue to do well as I have that he can't justify doing that. Of course I'm seem every other month and drug tested randomly etc. He said if I again hit a wall and these stop working , and we know they will, we will have to look into alternating diff drugs. He mentioned fentynal as the last one to which I said never and he understood my fears. Anyhoe...maybe just maybe when I get to that point we will have better and newer options which aren't so dangerous and Addictive. I know I'll be the first one in lime!! Lol | |
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coldasice said: People have died from taking the amount of Fentanyl that is the size equivalent of 3 grains of salt. If he had laced pills and thought they were Vicodin, that's bad news. It's usually prescribed in patches that stick on your rear or another fatty part of your body to control the amount that's released into your body. I think it's only given orally to end stage cancer patients. My close friend was only given it orally when he was put into hospice. Nasty stuff. I've tried the Fent patch many years ago. It knocked me out for two days straight and I woke up in pain again with 24 more hours to go b4 I was allowed to apply another patch. I can see how someone in pain like myself desperate for relief may apply another patch to try and get relief and then end up overdosing. I've told my current pain Dr that medicine is NOT an option. | |
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Sorry to hear this. I am using CBD oil and it helps a bit. Have you tried this? Helps with anxiety too. | |
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Dini said:
Sorry to hear this. I am using CBD oil and it helps a bit. Have you tried this? Helps with anxiety too. No i.have not. Never heard of it. I will definitely do some research on it tho. THANK you so much for that info. | |
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Which is what I've been saying all along. You never know what you are getting when you buy off the streets.
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and why would prince have to "buy off the streets" ???? | |
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exactly..
He had options..
Buying from the streets does not compute..
For a guy who wanted to "keep things Honest and fair, to the extent of taking active measure to prevent illegal ticket scalping Buying Drugs illegally is not at all in harmony with his per the way he chose to live his life....
I DONT BUY IT....
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Whether or not it is in harmony with him. Those drugs were street drugs. They weren't legal, if they were, there wouldn't have been a deadly dose of fentanyl in them. Prince wasn't always so truthful about things either.... . I know people here are in denial, but face it, he's gone from an accidental overdose. | |
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No Denial here...We KNOW what he died from...
and we KNOW the Fentanyl was contained within an Illegal Street Drug too.
Whats in question is that the Accidental overdose could mean a few things...
SOme people want to believe he knew what he was taking and took too much this one time..
I do NOT believe he knew what he was taking, and further more I DONT BELIEVE that he would take an illegally procured substance when he could easily have gotten something from his doctor who we know he had visited for Tests the day before !
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He was using an illegally procured substance. Those drugs he had stored in Alieve bottles and vitamin bottles were not purchased legitimately. I do not believe for an instance that he knew he was taking Fentanyl. He believed he was taking his usual pills and unfortunately, this time they contained a deadly amount of Fentanyl.
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I do not think he knew what he was taking either, or that they had fentanyl. I think somebody got them for him, I don't think they knew that they were cut with fentanyl either. | |
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thank U... | |
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PennyPurple said:
I do not think he knew what he was taking either, or that they had fentanyl. I think somebody got them for him, I don't think they knew that they were cut with fentanyl either. Oh definitely. Even though I entertained for a day or two the thought that he might've "half-heartedly" taken drugs that he knew had almost killed him the prior week because of just not being able to stand the pain or face more withdrawals and knowing he had done what he came here to do, in my gut I feel he was either desperate and took another one or just thought it was okay. Was the pill that contained the fentanyl the same type of drug he had OD'd on at Moline though? | |
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anangellooksdown said: PennyPurple said:
I do not think he knew what he was taking either, or that they had fentanyl. I think somebody got them for him, I don't think they knew that they were cut with fentanyl either. Oh definitely. Even though I entertained for a day or two the thought that he might've "half-heartedly" taken drugs that he knew had almost killed him the prior week because of just not being able to stand the pain or face more withdrawals and knowing he had done what he came here to do, in my gut I feel he was either desperate and took another one or just thought it was okay. Was the pill that contained the fentanyl the same type of drug he had OD'd on at Moline though? Has it been confirmed he OD'd on drugs on the plane? Paisley Park is in your heart
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Well, his actual medical records will never be released (HIPAA laws) but the one of the warrants stated that "The Doctor who treated Prince documented Prince as suffereing from an opiate overdose."
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disch said: Well, his actual medical records will never be released (HIPAA laws) but the one of the warrants stated that "The Doctor who treated Prince documented Prince as suffereing from an opiate overdose."
Ok that's what I was looking for. Paisley Park is in your heart
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. ^^ That is true. ^^ . While the thought of Prince buying street drugs does not seem to reflect Prince's healthy living, the fact of the matter remains that none of us really know what went on inside PP in his last days. .
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why would he buy them on the dstreets when he had Arsenio ? | |
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luvsexy4all said: why would he buy them on the dstreets when he had Arsenio ? And finally we get to the truth. . .lol | |
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tmo1965 said:
I understand that he thought he was taking Vicodin and that they were illegal street drugs and mixed with fentanyl. My point is, given the really high amounts in his system, was he trying to do himself in with what he thought was Vicodin. To someone who does not have a medical background and who does not know how quickly fentanyl processes out of your system, these amounts are troublesome even in an OD situation. Considering just 3 grains of fentanyl is a fatal dose, why, if he is looking to kill himself, would he buy 24 fentanyl laced pills when 1 would easily do the job? | |
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Question---Prior to Dr. S, do we know if Prince was getting drugs from a doctor through Kurt? Is it possible he only started seeing a real doctor (longterm) a few months before his death. Here's why I ask. Maybe, Kurt (who also had to endure pain due to athletic and dancing and whose doctor Prince eventually saw) found out about P's taking illegal drugs and then offered to get P legitimate pain pills from a doctor in his name to protect P's privacy (in an attempt to counter P's method of obtaining via internet or whatever). I ask this because it makes no sense for Kurt to put his ass on the line with pills in his name if he was already procuring illegal drugs for Prince in the first place. The illegal drugs have no easily detectable paperwork trail (but they do come with a stiffer penalty). Why draw attention to illegal doing by then creating a paper trail. I am starting to think that P's paranoia of doctors, government and other institutions and his obsession with privacy led him to procure these drugs in illegal ways (after all, he probably figured pharmacutical companies and doctors weren't much better than drug dealers).Kurt saw what he was doing, offered an alternative for pain (milder pain pills prescribed by a doc), figured P was taking the safer stuff, but didn't know that P was mixing his illegal pills and legal pills (hell, maybe P was confused by the labels--385? 835? Watson?) --thus, the reason that probably Kurt and P both thought P's moline overdose was percocet. Maybe no one believed Prince when he stated that he only took 1 or 2 pills in Moline. They figured he took more but no one realized that he did indeed take 2 pills (they were just stronger than anyone realized.) The test results might have been from the Moline incident and they were just too late. Kurt might have felt that P wasnt in immediate danger because he didn't know how strong the pills were in his posession and figured that the narcon's effects would still be in effect.
I feel like defending Kurt a bit right now, because placing his names on pills seems something unnecesary if there were plenty of untraceable pills laying about.
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