derrick31 said:

cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

The media is making it out to be a lot of pills when it appears to be the average a person on pain meds would have. Almost as if he knew when he purchased these things what a normal supply would be. I think it is interesting if you look past the sensationalism.

Yes, I believe they were loaded to kill.

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All it took was one bad pill, and Prince took that one. And, I will keep preaching from the mountain-tops, that Prince didn't know what he was taking!! Amen!!

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Someone did him wrong!

Damn Right!!!

All The Purple Army need to join up and beat somebody or all those involved arse!!!

morningsong said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Okay. I wish I never even brought up the story about the Chef!!

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Look, I don't know how they run things at PP. Maybe the Chef's were told to not touch anything in the fridge? We don't know.

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Like I said earlier, maybe detectives felt there wasn't any reason to search the kitchen area.

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I'm sorry if I offended you or anyone else. My bad. Now, I'm gonna sign-off and.... , LOL

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I'm being sarcastic.......Need some humor around here, ya know?

I miss the days when orgers would tear folks shreds for not backing up their stuff. Now folks are coming in here blurting out any and every type of garbage they can get their hands on. It's annoying.

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Like I said, I was just bringing up a conversation about the Chef that has been mentioned here dozens of times on the Org. It's nothing new. You can look up the old thread if you think I am making it up.

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I was trying to be nice to you and use some humor, but you seem really uptight.

122884 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Ha-ha! That's hilarious, 122884!!

My comment itself, or that anyone would use that trash dump of a site as a source to support an argument (which I agree IS pretty hilarious! )?

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Lipstick Alley is a public forum, just like the Org.

laurarichardson said:

122884 said:

My comment itself, or that anyone would use that trash dump of a site as a source to support an argument (which I agree IS pretty hilarious! )?

They do not censor people on that board and some of the info on that board has turned out to be true much more so than what is on this board.

There were stories about Londell's antics with the Jackson estate and some of the bums he hangs with and other stories about his business fuck-ups. All true and we are seeing his antics on display right now.

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Good point, Laura. They don't censor anyone on LA, and some of the people there know what they are talking about.

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I was pointing out that the story about the Chef on LA came from the Org, and the discussion about that looney Psychic.

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I never said LA was a credible source for news! Now, people want to put words in my mouth, LOL

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I'm not trying to be rude here, but I am seeing a lot of new people around here lately and they are asking questions to things they should already know about since Prince died. A lot of this information has been out in the news for a long time, but yet I see people here who act as though they are hearing about things for the first time. Strange.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

cloveringold85 said:

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So, you are speaking indirectly to me, is that correct?

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Look, I don't stir-up crap about anything. It's just a conversation here about the Toxicology results, and people discussing their thoughts on it. Nowhere did I say in any of my comments that the information was written in stone, have I? smh

I asked you earlier today for your receipts about the detectives when you said the scene looked staged.

Now you continue with no receipts for the chefs.

Because you have none.

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What?! Who the hell are YOU?! I don't work for you!! I don't owe you any damn receipts for anything! Where the hell have you been since April 21, 2016!! This is not NEW news!!

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

Why? When there were reporters swarming PP in those early days. Somebody stopped them when they came in to do whatever it was they did and they gave a brief interview. And us fans were grateful for something. How hard is that to understand? Everybody isn't show bizness reporter savvy. And they didn't say a thing tacky. People are just mean as snakes sometimes when they don't get what they want when they want it and now the fans are turning on them. It's disappointing.

Actually they gave those interviews to the media on their own and they were very forthcoming and this was right after he died. I though it was strange then and I still think it was strange. I do not dislike them or think that they did anything to Prince. I just find their behavior odd right after his death.

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What difference does it make? Honestly. That interview made a whole lot of us feel a tiny bit better and there wasn't a thing in it that was malicious or tacky. Now some froot loop with an overactive imagination is instigating others to make those people's life harder as a thanks for making ours easier. Now that's tacky and I'm not joining. How horrible of them for giving an interview in not the exact right specified time that somebody else thought they should. People need to learn when to pick their battles. This is a non-issue plain and simple. They did their freakin' job and probably made the PP family's life easier by taking care of the kitchen situation.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

cloveringold85 said:

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So, you are speaking indirectly to me, is that correct?

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Look, I don't stir-up crap about anything. It's just a conversation here about the Toxicology results, and people discussing their thoughts on it. Nowhere did I say in any of my comments that the information was written in stone, have I? smh

I asked you earlier today for your receipts about the detectives when you said the scene looked staged.

Now you continue with no receipts for the chefs.

Because you have none.

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Furthermore, SHOW ME your post where you asked me for receipts!! I looked back the the past 2-days of this thread and I don't see any replies from you asking for receipts!!

derrick31 said:

luvsexy4all said:

so my point is ..he didnt intentionally take a fentanyl pill ....correct???? he thought he was taking oxy or perc.....did kirk say prince was taking fentanyl??????

I'm not sure whether we really know if he took fentanyl intentionally or not. All we know is that he took more than enough to kill him.

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Most of us don't believe he took that illegal Fentanyl on purpose.

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No, Kirk never said Prince was taking Fentanyl; he only said that he thought Prince was taking Percocet when they had the emergency in Moline.

laurarichardson said:

122884 said:

My comment itself, or that anyone would use that trash dump of a site as a source to support an argument (which I agree IS pretty hilarious! )?

They do not censor people on that board and some of the info on that board has turned out to be true much more so than what is on this board.

There were stories about Londell's antics with the Jackson estate and some of the bums he hangs with and other stories about his business fuck-ups. All true and we are seeing his antics on display right now.

I can't verify that but even a broken clock is right once in a while, still most of the time it's wrong. You, yourself do a lot of research (and sometimes you don't) so you might come across some valid stuff but most people just latch on to the most ridiculous stuff and post and post and post until they get validation or get all pissy when asked to back up their stuff. It's still up in the air what Londell actually did, he's still working for SNJ so he's still getting a slice of the pie.

morningsong said:

rogifan said:

morningsong said:

What difference does it make? Honestly. That interview made a whole lot of us feel a tiny bit better and there wasn't a thing in it that was malicious or tacky. Now some froot loop with an overactive imagination is instigating others to make those people's life harder as a thanks for making ours easier. Now that's tacky and I'm not joining. How horrible of them for giving an interview in not the exact right specified time that somebody else thought they should. People need to learn when to pick their battles. This is a non-issue plain and simple. They did their freakin' job and probably made the PP family's life easier by taking care of the kitchen situation.

This. And I'm sorry but unless someone provides a link or a screen shot I call BS on the chefs saying they were lied to, or that Prince was going to fire them. Who claimed this and how would they know? And IF Prince was going to fire them why are they still working for Paisley Park?

It's not as easy as you might think to fire someone from the afterlife.

leadline said:

morningsong said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

morningsong said:

What difference does it make? Honestly. That interview made a whole lot of us feel a tiny bit better and there wasn't a thing in it that was malicious or tacky. Now some froot loop with an overactive imagination is instigating others to make those people's life harder as a thanks for making ours easier. Now that's tacky and I'm not joining. How horrible of them for giving an interview in not the exact right specified time that somebody else thought they should. People need to learn when to pick their battles. This is a non-issue plain and simple. They did their freakin' job and probably made the PP family's life easier by taking care of the kitchen situation.

Not sure what was going on with the chefs and the interviews but remember when they said they wished they were at a pM show and then someone found their FB pg and they were showing their back stage passes to the P&M show...why would they tell a lie ? Seems strange to me. Not saying they did anything but geeze they brought the suspicions on themselves. And the chef commenting Prince did not touch his last meal...

Um, there was more than one P&M show. So which one did they have the passes to? I remember the picture. I remember that the last one he was basically alone, remember the photographer, were they just saying the wished they'd been at the Atlanta show, what about the other shows, in NZ and Austrailia and Canada(?) and Oakland? I don't follow them so I don't keep tabs on everything they write. Here's the problem, others keep claiming they said this or that yet they aren't providing any proof, so without the proof the rest is null and void. I read the interview. And I've said all I have to say about the meal, it's a non-issue in my book.

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

tishal said:

derrick31 said:

I'm not sure whether we really know if he took fentanyl intentionally or not. All we know is that he took more than enough to kill him.

Being the smart man he was, I assume he did not know they were fentanyl laced. I would think he thought he was taking his normal amount of pain pills, just like any other day.

No one has any idea what his intent was when he took that pill.

derrick31 said:

tishal said:

derrick31 said: Being the smart man he was, I assume he did not know they were fentanyl laced. I would think he thought he was taking his normal amount of pain pills, just like any other day.

No one has any idea what his intent was when he took that pill.

no they don't, i think two overdoses in that span of time might be more than coicidental, especailly with the info we have on the last one now, it's just all so strange.

PeteSilas said:

derrick31 said:

No one has any idea what his intent was when he took that pill.

no they don't, i think two overdoses in that span of time might be more than coicidental, especailly with the info we have on the last one now, it's just all so strange.

Two over doses is not that hard to believe if he had a bad batch of pills. Took one/two on the plane, went into OD. Had tests done to try and find what happened. Waiting for results, obviously didn't know pills were bad, took more pills from bad batch.

I don't know, i don't know, two bad batches, different stuff? they said he had no other fentanyl in his system. I don't know. Also, you'd think he'd do more to be careful after that but i guess you could say the monkey on his back was just too strong.

sfinky1 said:

Wow the fact that the fentanyl levels in his body were so unbelievably high Gives us a clear indication of the amount of pills he was taking, 'Cause even thinking it was hydrocodone he still must have ingested a really large dosage of them.. Sadly not knowing they were cut with fentanyl he takes 3, 4 maybe even 5 pills (which even if they were hydro is just crazy!) and is then out like a light probably before he'd even realised what was happening

He may have known exactly what he was taking. There are so many unanswered questions that it's hard to determine what was really going on at the time.

In Hennepin County alone in 2016 39 people died from ingesting fentanyl, and in Ramsey County 17 people passed away from fentanyl od. So it is very possible that there were a bad batch of pills in that area and Prince got ahold of some of them in that bad batch.

Also in this report it also mentions the Watson 385 that were falsely stamped with Watson 385 on them.

miamibaby said:

purplethunder3121 said:

I still don't see how this information adds to or changes what we knew before.

It's a lot more fentanyl that I thought. At first we heard Prince had enough to kill 3 men but now it sounds like he had enough to kill like 20 men.

Fent blood level at 3 milligrams fatal,and Prince had 68 milligrams ! He must have passed in seconds. [Edited 5/21/17 23:18pm]

Is this is a fact?

Do you mean there's no way he could have walked to the elevator after taking them?

laurarichardson said:

Strawberrylova123 said:

laytonian said: There is so much ignorance on what opiods does to the body

No there is not ignorance. I am sure people on this board are capable of reading. We all know how these meds can destroy your organs over the long haul. In fact organ failure has been discussed on this board and dismissed because Prince was some super human who would have been immunne to the following things.

Cancer, organ damage, remuhthoid arthritis, joint pain and just plain old age. Not saying he was not strung out on pain pills as well despite the lack of sluring of words, running from the stage to vomit, or just not showing up to do anything.

That's the catch. Right there.

bonatoc said:

bonatoc said:

There's still the unbelievable possiblity of Prince not being given the usual consumer's bag of drugs, but being given a dealer's bag, uncut, just by accident.

Tim Buckley mistook heroine for cocaine and OD'ed on the spot.

I'm considering the poisoning/murder for lack of better information, but I need a mobile.
I really don't think Prince was a threat to society.
Going down that path, there's Jimi, Janis, Jim, Marilyn, Kurt and countless that were wiped out because of some supreme order.

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