Dibblekins said:

laurarichardson said:

The problem with Mayte is she said she never saw him taking drugs how is it possible to be married to someone and not know they are using drugs? No one who is married would ever believe such a thing.

I'm married and can see it as entirely possible. Some married people have affairs, which to my mind it would be a lot harder to carry out than covertly pop some pills. I'm out at work for a large part of the day, so that's easy, easy pill time there. If I need a couple to get me through the night, how hard could that be? Pop to the toilet for a 'wee', swallow some pills. Job done and I haven't considered it for more than about 3 seconds. I'd imagine that if I was addicted to pain pills and didn't want to be discovered that I'd be able to come up with dozens of ways to take them without Mrs Gent knowing about it. Don't understimate the devious power of an addicted brain.

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Now that i've thought about it for a bit, I think my wife would work out that I was taking them. Opiates give me nightmares. When I popped a disc in my back I was on them for a while and started having semi-regular night terrors. If that started up again she'd realise what was going on. But the fact still stands that she wouldn't know through witnessing me actually taking them, only by knowing a particular side effect.

cloveringold85 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

kmama07 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

kmama07 said:

laurarichardson said:

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Investigators have been searching for the source of the controlled substances found in Prince’s residence. Through this investigation, interviews with those who were at Paisley Park the morning Prince was found deceased have provided inconsistent and, at times, contradictory statements. Your Afiiant is aware that friends of Prince who were present when his body was discovered were making/receiving repeated phone calls and text messages. The recipients of those calls/messages are unknown to investigators.

The bold part just kills me. What kind of people did he have around him.

Why are the calls/messages unknown to the investigators? If it is being treated as a crime scene wouldn't that information be valid since those people were present when P was found? Am I totally missing something? (Sorry if this is a question asked already)

The police issued a warrant for their phones.

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

bobsteezy said:

Herb4 said,

"I don't think it's a concidence that the change in Prince's appearance and the sharp turn into the illicit procuring of drugs directly coincides with the DEA rescheduling these medications and cracking down on them. Regular PCP's and GP's refused to prescribe and even the places that do were strictly monitored and regulated. Even pharmacies were unbder the microscope.

But by then, the genie was out of the bottle. The people that really NEEDED the meds were denied them or had to jump through more stringent hoops to get them while the ones that used them for kicks, sold them or unwillingly developed a dependency resorted to other means to obtain them. They've almost single handidly created an entire sub culture of addicts and, worse, in their shortsightedness, gave birth to an incredible spike in heroin use; not to mention the counterfeit racket that arose that ultimately led to what to happened to Prince."

I agree!

This is true. This is the issue. There are some people really in pain. Okay, what do they have to choose from? We have NSAIDs that cause bleeding and increased risk of strokes, etc. (but work well). Or, you have opioids. Tramadol and Tylenol w/ Codiene are mild, then you have narcotics. Prince was given (via Kirk's name) Percocet. Yes, it is oxycodone but it is "watered down" with Tylenol. It isn't like Oxycontin. But, back to the point, is people in pain do not have a lot of options. Yes, there are people who abuse the drugs for the feeling it gives them and have no pain, but the majority of people on these meds actually hurt and need the medications to stop hurting or at least tolerate the pain. The more regulation, the more it feeds into counterfit medications. Prince did not mean to take fentanyl. Now fentanyl is being found in counterfit non-pain medications, too. The restrictions are just feeding the beast. I just wish Prince had looked up the medication he had taken, if he had, he would have seen that it had not been made since 2013 or so (it was made to look like Lortab which was changed to Norco, lower Tylenol content).

I also saw on some old posts that ondansetron is scheduled and for chemo. Wrong. It is brand Zofran and for nausea and vomiting from anything from chemo to stomach bugs and often given with pain medications because they cause nausea in a lot of people. It is RX only but not a controlled medication. It does not mean that Prince was on chemo. Pain medications can cause nausea, even vomiting, just from taking them (it is a side effect) or from withdrawals, too.

TheEnglishGent said:

gatorgirl said:

kmama07 said:

laurarichardson said:

tmo1965 said:

I don't think that Mayte made up the wine and aspirin incident nor the flushing of the pills down the toilet incident. I believe in Alex Hahn's original book "The Rise and Fall of Prince" or was it "Possessed"?, he stated a similar incident with the wine and aspirin. These incidents happenned about 20 years ago.

People with substance abuse issues do in fact try to hide their addiction from their loved ones. It's entirely possible that Prince never took any pills in front of her.

I have been on narcotic pain pills in the past and they will cause migraines when you stop them. I was only on the pain meds for about a week and got migraines.

Perhaps both Kirk and Prince had an opiate problem. Who knows? Right now, I'm leaning towards believing that the Rx's were for Prince in Kirk's name, which is illegal to do and that's why they are lying. Kirk may be the one who was getting the street drugs for Prince, but right now we don't have enough info to determine that.

-/I never said she was making up anything. Taking to many aspirian for a headache and drinking wine is not the same as abusing pain meds. The problem with Mayte is she said she never saw him taking drugs how is it possible to be married to someone and not know they are using drugs? No one who is married would ever believe such a thing. As far as throwing the pills down the drain she never took a look at what they were so she dies not know if he has a prescription or if they were aspirian. I know Dr. Fink said that he saw Prince taking aspirin all the time because he said he headaches maybe he had migraines which s can make you loopy maybe he had seziure which came out of his own mouth. I cannot understand why it so hard to believe that he was not the picture of perfect health? Drinking big glasses of wine can make you loopy as well.

Do you really believe that he OD'd on aspirin? Mayte didn't believe it and I don't believe it either.

Again, it's very possible for a person not to let their spouse see them taking pills. Perhaps Mayte did see the effects of the pill use, but I believe her when she says that she never him take any.

Other people never saw Prince taking anything but aspirin because he hid his pills in aspirin bottles. They thought that he was taking aspirin, but he was really taking the opiates, at least some of the time.

You will probably not like what I'm about to say, but I think that you are having a difficult time accepting the fact that our beloved Prince had a substance abuse problem. As much as is hurts my heart that he went out that way, I've accepted that fact.

oliviacamron said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Mayte, among many others who were in P's inner circle have made a lot of inconsistent statements.

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KJ is not being truthful, and I'm glad you mentioned what he said in that CBS interview because I was going to say something about that -- when the interviewer said to him "There are people who want someone to be prosecuted for the death of Prince", and KJ's response was "That is their problem.".........Woah....really now?

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OMG!!! I didn't know Kirk said that !! He sounds defensive and guilty ! If not, he would have said he hoped for the same. I mean, shouldn't Kirk want the people who made the poison pills to get caught? I guess not , wonder why?

This is the thing with Mayte. She was with him for roughly a decade and can only think of a few times where she "thinks" he may have been abusing meds? She should have kept her mouth shut after saying "I never saw him do anything". Speculation is never good (though yes we all do it from time to time but I would not want my last words on Prince and drug use being pure speculation). Maybe he really was having migraines. Maybe he really did overdo it with aspirin and wine. Was this something that happened like, weekly? Apparently not. I do not think that a spouse, even one who spent quite a bit of time alone, could hide a severe addicition, and on top of that, I do not think he could have escaped having at least several ODs. That is like someone hiding alcoholism from their spouse for a decade--almost impossible. He looked healthy up until the last year or so, and even then he just looked thinner than normal. I don't think he was able to escape withdrawals for years. It seems, or I hope, that his issues were rather recent. I just wish he hadn't tried to go this alone or apparently had "yes men" around him.

As for Kirk, I haven't seen the interview but it bothers me he let a doctor write an RX in his name for a narcotic for someone who was obviously having issues. If he was taking them for real pain, I would have done him the favor of finding him a doctor to try and figure out why he was in pain (likely for his hip, did he need hip replacements)? I don't want to blame Kirk, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but he should be angry as hell that someone essentially poisoned his best friend and is running around free.

Strawberrylova123 said:

laurarichardson said:

gatorgirl said:

This is true. This is the issue. There are some people really in pain. Okay, what do they have to choose from? We have NSAIDs that cause bleeding and increased risk of strokes, etc. (but work well). Or, you have opioids. Tramadol and Tylenol w/ Codiene are mild, then you have narcotics. Prince was given (via Kirk's name) Percocet. Yes, it is oxycodone but it is "watered down" with Tylenol. It isn't like Oxycontin. But, back to the point, is people in pain do not have a lot of options. Yes, there are people who abuse the drugs for the feeling it gives them and have no pain, but the majority of people on these meds actually hurt and need the medications to stop hurting or at least tolerate the pain. The more regulation, the more it feeds into counterfit medications. Prince did not mean to take fentanyl. Now fentanyl is being found in counterfit non-pain medications, too. The restrictions are just feeding the beast. I just wish Prince had looked up the medication he had taken, if he had, he would have seen that it had not been made since 2013 or so (it was made to look like Lortab which was changed to Norco, lower Tylenol content).

I also saw on some old posts that ondansetron is scheduled and for chemo. Wrong. It is brand Zofran and for nausea and vomiting from anything from chemo to stomach bugs and often given with pain medications because they cause nausea in a lot of people. It is RX only but not a controlled medication. It does not mean that Prince was on chemo. Pain medications can cause nausea, even vomiting, just from taking them (it is a side effect) or from withdrawals, too.

--Well we know it can be used for other things than chemo but it was written for Kirk but I get your point and I feel for people in this stituation but hey no one believes Prince had any pain.

Doctors commonly prescribe either ondansetron or promethazine with pain medications because they make so many people nauseous.

PeteSilas said:

i really hope they charge everyone they can, them fuckers will sing like pavoratti once jail time is over their heads and all the beans will get spilled.

I seriously don't think anybody will be charged.

laurarichardson said:

Rest in Peace Sweet Prince.

Thank you for making me smile for over 38+ years.

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BTW the first inventory of 4-21-16 showed over 99+ Watson 853 pills in three (3) different

locations in addition to the other pills found.

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I did not scan the search warrants and inventory (this is for Pete even though the writing in the inventory hurts my eyes) and I will give a summary instead

If there are typos's its because I am drinking (dont act surprised ))

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This is a long request for a search warrant.

This all sounds so cold but it is the facts as represented in the request for a search warrant.

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Search Warrant Inventory #2, Background, and Supporting Affidavit as requested on 4-26-16 (includes Andrew Kornfeld's backpack)

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1. Laptop Mac Book Pro - Grey color computer
2. Logitech connectors - attached to computer
3. Wireless Mouse - Returned to backpack
4. Book - Emerging Race of Buprenophine (my note - this is commonly known as suboxone) Dr. Kornfeld
5. Key on single ring - returned to backpack
6. Pens - returned to backpack
7. Black case with Oakley sunglasses - returned to backpack
8. Apple charging cables - returned to backpack
9. Headphones - returned to backpack
10. Water bottle - returned to backpack
11. Grey Patagonia Jacket - returned to backpack
12. Homepedics - Blood pressure cuff and pulse device - returned to back pack
13. Plastic zip lock bag - Helds pill found in (packaged separately)
14. Envelope - Contains suppositories in package (packaged separately)
15. Envelope - Contains 11 pills with number "N2" on pill (packaged separately)
16. Envelope - Contains 5 pills with number "54411 on pill (packaged separately)
17. Envelope - Contains 6 pills -Mylan - with number ""547" on pill (packaged separately)
18. The police are requesting a search warrant to be able to search Andrew's backpack among other things.
19. The Sheriff's office received the call at 0943 hours regarding an incident at PP. P was pronounced deceased at 1007 hours. When officers arrived they found six (6) other people including Andrew.
20. Andrew was interviewed at 1054.
21. Notation - before Andrew left PP he asked for his backpack which was located in one of the offices in PP studios. The Detective went with Andrew and assisted him in collecting the backpack. The Detective controlled the backpack until the interview with Andrew at City Hall (my note - this is called "chain of evidence")
22. Andrew flew in on 4-21-16 to meet with P at approximately 6:00 am from California. He was representing his father's clinic - Recovery Without Walls.
23. Andrew said the meeting was arranged by P's people with his father. Dr. K was unable to meet and his father arranged for Andrew to meet P to discuss concerns, determine if P was a candidate for the program, and determine if he was willing to participate in the program.
24. Andrew said he, Kirk, and Meron arrived at PP at 0900 (side note - 43 minutes to contact police?)
25. Kirk and Meron began to look for P around the studio. Andrew heard scream and ran down the hall and observed P lying on left side in the elevator. Andrew said when he saw P he believed he was already deceased and then called 911.
26. Andrew received information from Kirky that P was struggling with opiate use, and Andrew believed P may have been suffering from opiate withdrawal. P reported not feeling well.
27. Andrew reported his father had been contacted the on the 20th. The meeting was put together at the last minute. He had not had time to meet to meet with P to discuss the reason he came to meet. (my note - P may not have know about this meeting).
28. The Detective told Andrew there was a need to control the backpack. Andrew understood.
29. Andrew disclsosed he had drugs in the bag. There was buprenorphine (my note - suboxone) and he said it was used for opiate addicts. He also had adovan (benzodiazepine) to be used if someone was having a seizure. He also had an anti-nausea suppsitory for puking. He admitted they were controlled substances.
30. Andrew said he brought these pills on his own accord and his father did not know he brought them (my side note - big fat lie.)
31. Andrew denied he took the medication from the facility. He said he got them from his own medicine cabinet (my side note - big fat lie) and denied he intended to use them (my side note- big fat lie). Andrew admits it was not a good idea.
32. Andrew denied he would adminster the medications (my side note - big fat lie) without consulting a doctor.
33. Andrew when questioned gave a big fat lie story about if an alcoholic having a seizure and if Andrew was on the phone with 911 and he could tell them he had valium, or whatever, and should he give this to them. The Detective told Andrew that 911 nor medics woudl give him instructions about medication.
34. Andrew said he discovered P was having some distress he would call his dad, or 911. Andrew denied he would give the medications without talking to a doctor.
35. Andrew stated the suppositories were not controlled and there wasnt that much of it. The Detective told Andrew the other medications were controlled, and he was processing medications that were neither prescribed to him, hew is not a licensed doctor, no did he have authority to administor.
36. Andrew was told his backpack would be held. Andrew indicated he understood.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Rest in Peace Sweet Prince.

Thank you for making me smile for over 38+ years.

.

BTW the first inventory of 4-21-16 showed over 99+ Watson 853 pills in three (3) different

locations in addition to the other pills found.

.

I did not scan the search warrants and inventory (this is for Pete even though the writing in the inventory hurts my eyes) and I will give a summary instead

If there are typos's its because I am drinking (dont act surprised ))

.

This is a long request for a search warrant.

This all sounds so cold but it is the facts as represented in the request for a search warrant.

.

Search Warrant Inventory #2, Background, and Supporting Affidavit as requested on 4-26-16 (includes Andrew Kornfeld's backpack)

.

1. Laptop Mac Book Pro - Grey color computer
2. Logitech connectors - attached to computer
3. Wireless Mouse - Returned to backpack
4. Book - Emerging Race of Buprenophine (my note - this is commonly known as suboxone) Dr. Kornfeld
5. Key on single ring - returned to backpack
6. Pens - returned to backpack
7. Black case with Oakley sunglasses - returned to backpack
8. Apple charging cables - returned to backpack
9. Headphones - returned to backpack
10. Water bottle - returned to backpack
11. Grey Patagonia Jacket - returned to backpack
12. Homepedics - Blood pressure cuff and pulse device - returned to back pack
13. Plastic zip lock bag - Helds pill found in (packaged separately)
14. Envelope - Contains suppositories in package (packaged separately)
15. Envelope - Contains 11 pills with number "N2" on pill (packaged separately)
16. Envelope - Contains 5 pills with number "54411 on pill (packaged separately)
17. Envelope - Contains 6 pills -Mylan - with number ""547" on pill (packaged separately)
18. The police are requesting a search warrant to be able to search Andrew's backpack among other things.
19. The Sheriff's office received the call at 0943 hours regarding an incident at PP. P was pronounced deceased at 1007 hours. When officers arrived they found six (6) other people including Andrew.
20. Andrew was interviewed at 1054.
21. Notation - before Andrew left PP he asked for his backpack which was located in one of the offices in PP studios. The Detective went with Andrew and assisted him in collecting the backpack. The Detective controlled the backpack until the interview with Andrew at City Hall (my note - this is called "chain of evidence")
22. Andrew flew in on 4-21-16 to meet with P at approximately 6:00 am from California. He was representing his father's clinic - Recovery Without Walls.
23. Andrew said the meeting was arranged by P's people with his father. Dr. K was unable to meet and his father arranged for Andrew to meet P to discuss concerns, determine if P was a candidate for the program, and determine if he was willing to participate in the program.
24. Andrew said he, Kirk, and Meron arrived at PP at 0900 (side note - 43 minutes to contact police?)
25. Kirk and Meron began to look for P around the studio. Andrew heard scream and ran down the hall and observed P lying on left side in the elevator. Andrew said when he saw P he believed he was already deceased and then called 911.
26. Andrew received information from Kirky that P was struggling with opiate use, and Andrew believed P may have been suffering from opiate withdrawal. P reported not feeling well.
27. Andrew reported his father had been contacted the on the 20th. The meeting was put together at the last minute. He had not had time to meet to meet with P to discuss the reason he came to meet. (my note - P may not have know about this meeting).
28. The Detective told Andrew there was a need to control the backpack. Andrew understood.
29. Andrew disclsosed he had drugs in the bag. There was buprenorphine (my note - suboxone) and he said it was used for opiate addicts. He also had adovan (benzodiazepine) to be used if someone was having a seizure. He also had an anti-nausea suppsitory for puking. He admitted they were controlled substances.
30. Andrew said he brought these pills on his own accord and his father did not know he brought them (my side note - big fat lie.)
31. Andrew denied he took the medication from the facility. He said he got them from his own medicine cabinet (my side note - big fat lie) and denied he intended to use them (my side note- big fat lie). Andrew admits it was not a good idea.
32. Andrew denied he would adminster the medications (my side note - big fat lie) without consulting a doctor.
33. Andrew when questioned gave a big fat lie story about if an alcoholic having a seizure and if Andrew was on the phone with 911 and he could tell them he had valium, or whatever, and should he give this to them. The Detective told Andrew that 911 nor medics woudl give him instructions about medication.
34. Andrew said he discovered P was having some distress he would call his dad, or 911. Andrew denied he would give the medications without talking to a doctor.
35. Andrew stated the suppositories were not controlled and there wasnt that much of it. The Detective told Andrew the other medications were controlled, and he was processing medications that were neither prescribed to him, hew is not a licensed doctor, no did he have authority to administor.
36. Andrew was told his backpack would be held. Andrew indicated he understood.

oh, thank you, i thought you forgot

zenarose said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

zenarose said: