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Reply #210 posted 04/21/17 3:20pm

laurarichardso
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Dibblekins said:



cloveringold85 said:


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KJ is not being truthful, and I'm glad you mentioned what he said in that CBS interview because I was going to say something about that -- when the interviewer said to him "There are people who want someone to be prosecuted for the death of Prince", and KJ's response was "That is their problem.".....Woah....really now? eek


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I'm sorry but I really don't like that...(And, yes, OK - that's 'my problem').
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At the very least, surely everyone would want the manufacturers / distributors / suppliers of the fake Watson, fentanyl-tainted, pills found and brought to justice ('prosecuted') - not only did those pills result in the death of Prince, they could, potentially, end up in the demise of many other people too!

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It isn't just 'our problem' - drugs like these doing the rounds is the problem of an entire nation!


You are correct but dude don't care. His eyes were cold and he laughed. He is either on something or he is stone cold gulity and arrogant about the evidence not being there for an arrest.
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Reply #211 posted 04/21/17 3:39pm

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laurarichardson said:

The problem with Mayte is she said she never saw him taking drugs how is it possible to be married to someone and not know they are using drugs? No one who is married would ever believe such a thing.

I'm married and can see it as entirely possible. Some married people have affairs, which to my mind it would be a lot harder to carry out than covertly pop some pills. I'm out at work for a large part of the day, so that's easy, easy pill time there. If I need a couple to get me through the night, how hard could that be? Pop to the toilet for a 'wee', swallow some pills. Job done and I haven't considered it for more than about 3 seconds. I'd imagine that if I was addicted to pain pills and didn't want to be discovered that I'd be able to come up with dozens of ways to take them without Mrs Gent knowing about it. Don't understimate the devious power of an addicted brain.

[Edited 4/21/17 15:41pm]

RIP sad
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Reply #212 posted 04/21/17 3:47pm

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Now that i've thought about it for a bit, I think my wife would work out that I was taking them. Opiates give me nightmares. When I popped a disc in my back I was on them for a while and started having semi-regular night terrors. If that started up again she'd realise what was going on. But the fact still stands that she wouldn't know through witnessing me actually taking them, only by knowing a particular side effect.

RIP sad
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Reply #213 posted 04/21/17 4:10pm

oliviacamron

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cloveringold85 said:



laurarichardson said:




tmo1965 said:



I'm convinced that Prince has had a long time drug problem. Before his death, I would not have believed it, but with all of the evidence that we know about, he obviously did have a problem.

1. He died from a fentanyl OD, although I don't believe that he knew that he was taking fentanyl. He thought it was the Watson 835s.



2. 6 days before he was found, his plane had an emergency landing and the released search warrants state that the reason for the emergency was that he OD'd on opiates.



3. Mayte has detailed in her book, several incidents that point to substance abuse:


a) The migraines and general not feeling well.


b) The alleged wine and aspirin incident where he had to be taken to the hospital and have his stomach pumped


c) The LA incident where he had severe stomach upset and asked Mayte to flush some pills down the toilet


d) There was one incident where Mayte says that he was acting "loopy".

I don't think that anyone framed Prince to make him look like a drug addict. I do believe that there were enablers around.






Nothing you stated is indication of long time drug use. No one could be abusing these pills for 20 years and live long and work at the pace he did.



I would not go on anything Mayte has said because her statements are inconsitent. In fact she is saying she never saw him take any pills. eek



Migraines do not come from taking pain pills but they can be prescribed for them althought it is not recommended.



If you have migraines and like to drink wine you are going to be loopy. In the podcast with Jerome he repeatly said Prince liked drinking wine and trust me if he was knocking back wine and pain pills he would have been out of here a long time ago.



I believe his problems with these pills were in his later years and I belived he even had an Rx at one time or another. No one is saying he was not abusing these meds but something is fishy with mislabled pills and Kirk's behavior.



There is a longer piece of Kirk's interview that was shown on CBS news and in that piece he is saying that if people have a problems with Prince's death that is not his worry.



Something is not right about this guy along with the fact that he had Rx for controled substances written for him by Dr. S which he lied about. Could Kirk be on drugs as well?





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Mayte, among many others who were in P's inner circle have made a lot of inconsistent statements.


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KJ is not being truthful, and I'm glad you mentioned what he said in that CBS interview because I was going to say something about that -- when the interviewer said to him "There are people who want someone to be prosecuted for the death of Prince", and KJ's response was "That is their problem.".....Woah....really now? eek


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OMG!!! I didn't know Kirk said that !! He sounds defensive and guilty ! If not, he would have said he hoped for the same. I mean, shouldn't Kirk want the people who made the poison pills to get caught? I guess not , wonder why?
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #214 posted 04/21/17 4:15pm

kmama07

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Thought...Kirk may have been the one with the problem and he used Prince...

This has been mentioned before and P did that song at one of his last concerts and said pretty much said Kirk was using him.
Some felt it was about a woman...I disagree and feel P was telling us what was going on.

What song was that?
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Reply #215 posted 04/21/17 4:24pm

kmama07

laurarichardson said:



1Sasha said:


The whole scenario is fishy. Nothing adds up. Absolutely nothing.



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Investigators have been searching for the source of the controlled substances found in Prince’s residence. Through this investigation, interviews with those who were at Paisley Park the morning Prince was found deceased have provided inconsistent and, at times, contradictory statements. Your Afiiant is aware that friends of Prince who were present when his body was discovered were making/receiving repeated phone calls and text messages. The recipients of those calls/messages are unknown to investigators.



The bold part just kills me. What kind of people did he have around him. eek


Why are the calls/messages unknown to the investigators? If it is being treated as a crime scene wouldn't that information be valid since those people were present when P was found? Am I totally missing something? (Sorry if this is a question asked already)
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Reply #216 posted 04/21/17 4:29pm

kmama07

cloveringold85 said:



laurarichardson said:




PurpleDiamonds1 said:


destinyc1 said: According to the search warrant per Kirk it was Percocet on the plane. ???

We cannot go on anything Kirk did or said. So we still do not know what he O.D on the plane.



See Kirk and his lies below.


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During a search warrant executed at Paisley Park on 4/21/2016 (the day Prince was found deceased), a suitcase was found in Prince’s bedroom next to his bed. Among the items inside that suitcase were prescription pill bottles in the name of Johnson. A closer examination of those pill bottles revealed that not all the pills inside the containers were the pills listed on the prescription. One of the pill bottles, a Vitamin D bottle, was found to contain the controlled substance Ondanselron Hydrochloride. A second prescription bottle, said to contain Ondansetron, was found to contain the controlled substance Acetarninophen/oxycodone hydrochloride. The date those medications were prescribed to Johnson, according to the pill bottles, was 4/7/2016. The medications were prescribed by Dr. Schulenberg. Johnson told Investigators he was unaware Prince was addicted to pain medication. Your Affiant is awar



Why would Dr. S prescribe this to Kirk? Was Kirk going thru withdrawals?



Ondansetron





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Kirk is not being truthful.



And I would also guess he's not the only one.
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Reply #217 posted 04/21/17 4:43pm

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kmama07 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Thought...Kirk may have been the one with the problem and he used Prince...

This has been mentioned before and P did that song at one of his last concerts and said pretty much said Kirk was using him.
Some felt it was about a woman...I disagree and feel P was telling us what was going on.

What song was that?


This is the link https://m.youtube.com/wat...cLCa3rjiyI listen from 11.53 or so...
The song is Use me...not a usual Prince song
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Reply #218 posted 04/21/17 4:44pm

kmama07

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

kmama07 said:


What song was that?


This is the link https://m.youtube.com/wat...cLCa3rjiyI listen from 11.53 or so...
The song is Use me...not a usual Prince song

Thanks
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Reply #219 posted 04/21/17 4:56pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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kmama07 said:

laurarichardson said:

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Investigators have been searching for the source of the controlled substances found in Prince’s residence. Through this investigation, interviews with those who were at Paisley Park the morning Prince was found deceased have provided inconsistent and, at times, contradictory statements. Your Afiiant is aware that friends of Prince who were present when his body was discovered were making/receiving repeated phone calls and text messages. The recipients of those calls/messages are unknown to investigators.

The bold part just kills me. What kind of people did he have around him. eek

Why are the calls/messages unknown to the investigators? If it is being treated as a crime scene wouldn't that information be valid since those people were present when P was found? Am I totally missing something? (Sorry if this is a question asked already)

The police issued a warrant for their phones.

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Reply #220 posted 04/21/17 4:58pm

PurpleDiamonds
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laurarichardson said:

Dibblekins said:



cloveringold85 said:


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KJ is not being truthful, and I'm glad you mentioned what he said in that CBS interview because I was going to say something about that -- when the interviewer said to him "There are people who want someone to be prosecuted for the death of Prince", and KJ's response was "That is their problem.".....Woah....really now? eek


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I'm sorry but I really don't like that...(And, yes, OK - that's 'my problem').
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At the very least, surely everyone would want the manufacturers / distributors / suppliers of the fake Watson, fentanyl-tainted, pills found and brought to justice ('prosecuted') - not only did those pills result in the death of Prince, they could, potentially, end up in the demise of many other people too!

.
It isn't just 'our problem' - drugs like these doing the rounds is the problem of an entire nation!


You are correct but dude don't care. His eyes were cold and he laughed. He is either on something or he is stone cold gulity and arrogant about the evidence not being there for an arrest.

you would think his comment would have been I hope they catch who did this to my friend Prince.
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Reply #221 posted 04/21/17 5:06pm

kmama07

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



kmama07 said:


laurarichardson said:


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Investigators have been searching for the source of the controlled substances found in Prince’s residence. Through this investigation, interviews with those who were at Paisley Park the morning Prince was found deceased have provided inconsistent and, at times, contradictory statements. Your Afiiant is aware that friends of Prince who were present when his body was discovered were making/receiving repeated phone calls and text messages. The recipients of those calls/messages are unknown to investigators.



The bold part just kills me. What kind of people did he have around him. eek



Why are the calls/messages unknown to the investigators? If it is being treated as a crime scene wouldn't that information be valid since those people were present when P was found? Am I totally missing something? (Sorry if this is a question asked already)

The police issued a warrant for their phones.



Thanks. I must ave missed that
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Reply #222 posted 04/21/17 5:20pm

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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

laurarichardson said:


You are correct but dude don't care. His eyes were cold and he laughed. He is either on something or he is stone cold gulity and arrogant about the evidence not beinghere for an arrest.

you would think his comment would have been I hope they catch who did this to my friend Prince.

Exactly . I wonder if kirkie will be at PP this weekend ? Doubt it
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R.
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Reply #223 posted 04/21/17 5:37pm

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Herb4 said,

"I don't think it's a concidence that the change in Prince's appearance and the sharp turn into the illicit procuring of drugs directly coincides with the DEA rescheduling these medications and cracking down on them. Regular PCP's and GP's refused to prescribe and even the places that do were strictly monitored and regulated. Even pharmacies were unbder the microscope.

But by then, the genie was out of the bottle. The people that really NEEDED the meds were denied them or had to jump through more stringent hoops to get them while the ones that used them for kicks, sold them or unwillingly developed a dependency resorted to other means to obtain them. They've almost single handidly created an entire sub culture of addicts and, worse, in their shortsightedness, gave birth to an incredible spike in heroin use; not to mention the counterfeit racket that arose that ultimately led to what to happened to Prince."

I agree!

This is true. This is the issue. There are some people really in pain. Okay, what do they have to choose from? We have NSAIDs that cause bleeding and increased risk of strokes, etc. (but work well). Or, you have opioids. Tramadol and Tylenol w/ Codiene are mild, then you have narcotics. Prince was given (via Kirk's name) Percocet. Yes, it is oxycodone but it is "watered down" with Tylenol. It isn't like Oxycontin. But, back to the point, is people in pain do not have a lot of options. Yes, there are people who abuse the drugs for the feeling it gives them and have no pain, but the majority of people on these meds actually hurt and need the medications to stop hurting or at least tolerate the pain. The more regulation, the more it feeds into counterfit medications. Prince did not mean to take fentanyl. Now fentanyl is being found in counterfit non-pain medications, too. The restrictions are just feeding the beast. I just wish Prince had looked up the medication he had taken, if he had, he would have seen that it had not been made since 2013 or so (it was made to look like Lortab which was changed to Norco, lower Tylenol content).

I also saw on some old posts that ondansetron is scheduled and for chemo. Wrong. It is brand Zofran and for nausea and vomiting from anything from chemo to stomach bugs and often given with pain medications because they cause nausea in a lot of people. It is RX only but not a controlled medication. It does not mean that Prince was on chemo. Pain medications can cause nausea, even vomiting, just from taking them (it is a side effect) or from withdrawals, too.

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Reply #224 posted 04/21/17 5:46pm

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TheEnglishGent said:

Now that i've thought about it for a bit, I think my wife would work out that I was taking them. Opiates give me nightmares. When I popped a disc in my back I was on them for a while and started having semi-regular night terrors. If that started up again she'd realise what was going on. But the fact still stands that she wouldn't know through witnessing me actually taking them, only by knowing a particular side effect.


--Well that is the that people keep forgetting about the side effects. These things can make you impotant. How did he get her pregnant twice how did he have time to have numerous affairs while they were married. These things can cause constipation and vomiting. How would dude have got out of the bathroom to get on the stage and work. No one may have seen him take a pill but if he was abusing these things it would have effected his work and he would not have been catting around. I think his troubles started in his later years maybe after he had the surgery in 2010 because you have gap of 4 years with no new album. I think when he was Matye his wine drinking may have got the better of him.
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Reply #225 posted 04/21/17 5:51pm

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gatorgirl said:



bobsteezy said:


Herb4 said,



"I don't think it's a concidence that the change in Prince's appearance and the sharp turn into the illicit procuring of drugs directly coincides with the DEA rescheduling these medications and cracking down on them. Regular PCP's and GP's refused to prescribe and even the places that do were strictly monitored and regulated. Even pharmacies were unbder the microscope.

But by then, the genie was out of the bottle. The people that really NEEDED the meds were denied them or had to jump through more stringent hoops to get them while the ones that used them for kicks, sold them or unwillingly developed a dependency resorted to other means to obtain them. They've almost single handidly created an entire sub culture of addicts and, worse, in their shortsightedness, gave birth to an incredible spike in heroin use; not to mention the counterfeit racket that arose that ultimately led to what to happened to Prince."










I agree!




This is true. This is the issue. There are some people really in pain. Okay, what do they have to choose from? We have NSAIDs that cause bleeding and increased risk of strokes, etc. (but work well). Or, you have opioids. Tramadol and Tylenol w/ Codiene are mild, then you have narcotics. Prince was given (via Kirk's name) Percocet. Yes, it is oxycodone but it is "watered down" with Tylenol. It isn't like Oxycontin. But, back to the point, is people in pain do not have a lot of options. Yes, there are people who abuse the drugs for the feeling it gives them and have no pain, but the majority of people on these meds actually hurt and need the medications to stop hurting or at least tolerate the pain. The more regulation, the more it feeds into counterfit medications. Prince did not mean to take fentanyl. Now fentanyl is being found in counterfit non-pain medications, too. The restrictions are just feeding the beast. I just wish Prince had looked up the medication he had taken, if he had, he would have seen that it had not been made since 2013 or so (it was made to look like Lortab which was changed to Norco, lower Tylenol content).



I also saw on some old posts that ondansetron is scheduled and for chemo. Wrong. It is brand Zofran and for nausea and vomiting from anything from chemo to stomach bugs and often given with pain medications because they cause nausea in a lot of people. It is RX only but not a controlled medication. It does not mean that Prince was on chemo. Pain medications can cause nausea, even vomiting, just from taking them (it is a side effect) or from withdrawals, too.


--Well we know it can be used for other things than chemo but it was written for Kirk but I get your point and I feel for people in this stituation but hey no one believes Prince had any pain.
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Reply #226 posted 04/21/17 5:53pm

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kmama07 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



kmama07 said:


laurarichardson said:


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Investigators have been searching for the source of the controlled substances found in Prince’s residence. Through this investigation, interviews with those who were at Paisley Park the morning Prince was found deceased have provided inconsistent and, at times, contradictory statements. Your Afiiant is aware that friends of Prince who were present when his body was discovered were making/receiving repeated phone calls and text messages. The recipients of those calls/messages are unknown to investigators.



The bold part just kills me. What kind of people did he have around him. eek



Why are the calls/messages unknown to the investigators? If it is being treated as a crime scene wouldn't that information be valid since those people were present when P was found? Am I totally missing something? (Sorry if this is a question asked already)

The police issued a warrant for their phones.



Thanks. I must ave missed that

--Yes, the police issued a warrant since they all were busy making Val's while Prince was dead on the floor.
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Reply #227 posted 04/21/17 5:55pm

tmo1965

laurarichardson said:

tmo1965 said:

I don't think that Mayte made up the wine and aspirin incident nor the flushing of the pills down the toilet incident. I believe in Alex Hahn's original book "The Rise and Fall of Prince" or was it "Possessed"?, he stated a similar incident with the wine and aspirin. These incidents happenned about 20 years ago.

People with substance abuse issues do in fact try to hide their addiction from their loved ones. It's entirely possible that Prince never took any pills in front of her.

I have been on narcotic pain pills in the past and they will cause migraines when you stop them. I was only on the pain meds for about a week and got migraines.


Perhaps both Kirk and Prince had an opiate problem. Who knows? Right now, I'm leaning towards believing that the Rx's were for Prince in Kirk's name, which is illegal to do and that's why they are lying. Kirk may be the one who was getting the street drugs for Prince, but right now we don't have enough info to determine that.

-/I never said she was making up anything. Taking to many aspirian for a headache and drinking wine is not the same as abusing pain meds. The problem with Mayte is she said she never saw him taking drugs how is it possible to be married to someone and not know they are using drugs? No one who is married would ever believe such a thing. As far as throwing the pills down the drain she never took a look at what they were so she dies not know if he has a prescription or if they were aspirian. I know Dr. Fink said that he saw Prince taking aspirin all the time because he said he headaches maybe he had migraines which s can make you loopy maybe he had seziure which came out of his own mouth. I cannot understand why it so hard to believe that he was not the picture of perfect health? Drinking big glasses of wine can make you loopy as well.

Do you really believe that he OD'd on aspirin? Mayte didn't believe it and I don't believe it either.

Again, it's very possible for a person not to let their spouse see them taking pills. Perhaps Mayte did see the effects of the pill use, but I believe her when she says that she never him take any.

Other people never saw Prince taking anything but aspirin because he hid his pills in aspirin bottles. They thought that he was taking aspirin, but he was really taking the opiates, at least some of the time.

You will probably not like what I'm about to say, but I think that you are having a difficult time accepting the fact that our beloved Prince had a substance abuse problem. As much as is hurts my heart that he went out that way, I've accepted that fact.

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Reply #228 posted 04/21/17 5:57pm

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oliviacamron said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Mayte, among many others who were in P's inner circle have made a lot of inconsistent statements.

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KJ is not being truthful, and I'm glad you mentioned what he said in that CBS interview because I was going to say something about that -- when the interviewer said to him "There are people who want someone to be prosecuted for the death of Prince", and KJ's response was "That is their problem.".........Woah....really now? eek

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OMG!!! I didn't know Kirk said that !! He sounds defensive and guilty ! If not, he would have said he hoped for the same. I mean, shouldn't Kirk want the people who made the poison pills to get caught? I guess not , wonder why?

This is the thing with Mayte. She was with him for roughly a decade and can only think of a few times where she "thinks" he may have been abusing meds? She should have kept her mouth shut after saying "I never saw him do anything". Speculation is never good (though yes we all do it from time to time but I would not want my last words on Prince and drug use being pure speculation). Maybe he really was having migraines. Maybe he really did overdo it with aspirin and wine. Was this something that happened like, weekly? Apparently not. I do not think that a spouse, even one who spent quite a bit of time alone, could hide a severe addicition, and on top of that, I do not think he could have escaped having at least several ODs. That is like someone hiding alcoholism from their spouse for a decade--almost impossible. He looked healthy up until the last year or so, and even then he just looked thinner than normal. I don't think he was able to escape withdrawals for years. It seems, or I hope, that his issues were rather recent. I just wish he hadn't tried to go this alone or apparently had "yes men" around him.

As for Kirk, I haven't seen the interview but it bothers me he let a doctor write an RX in his name for a narcotic for someone who was obviously having issues. If he was taking them for real pain, I would have done him the favor of finding him a doctor to try and figure out why he was in pain (likely for his hip, did he need hip replacements)? I don't want to blame Kirk, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but he should be angry as hell that someone essentially poisoned his best friend and is running around free.

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Reply #229 posted 04/21/17 6:00pm

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Strawberrylova123 said:

laurarichardson said:


-/I never said she was making up anything. Taking to many aspirian for a headache and drinking wine is not the same as abusing pain meds. The problem with Mayte is she said she never saw him taking drugs how is it possible to be married to someone and not know they are using drugs? No one who is married would ever believe such a thing. As far as throwing the pills down the drain she never took a look at what they were so she dies not know if he has a prescription or if they were aspirian. I know Dr. Fink said that he saw Prince taking aspirin all the time because he said he headaches maybe he had migraines which s
can make you loopy maybe he had seziure which came out of his own mouth. I cannot understand why it so hard to believe that he was not the picture of perfect health? Drinking big glasses of wine can make you loopy as well.

He had a heart and high blood pressure issues 2

--Yes a few people who worked for him said he sometimes complained about heart palpitations which could have cone from not eating and sleeping.
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Reply #230 posted 04/21/17 6:01pm

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laurarichardson said:

gatorgirl said:

This is true. This is the issue. There are some people really in pain. Okay, what do they have to choose from? We have NSAIDs that cause bleeding and increased risk of strokes, etc. (but work well). Or, you have opioids. Tramadol and Tylenol w/ Codiene are mild, then you have narcotics. Prince was given (via Kirk's name) Percocet. Yes, it is oxycodone but it is "watered down" with Tylenol. It isn't like Oxycontin. But, back to the point, is people in pain do not have a lot of options. Yes, there are people who abuse the drugs for the feeling it gives them and have no pain, but the majority of people on these meds actually hurt and need the medications to stop hurting or at least tolerate the pain. The more regulation, the more it feeds into counterfit medications. Prince did not mean to take fentanyl. Now fentanyl is being found in counterfit non-pain medications, too. The restrictions are just feeding the beast. I just wish Prince had looked up the medication he had taken, if he had, he would have seen that it had not been made since 2013 or so (it was made to look like Lortab which was changed to Norco, lower Tylenol content).

I also saw on some old posts that ondansetron is scheduled and for chemo. Wrong. It is brand Zofran and for nausea and vomiting from anything from chemo to stomach bugs and often given with pain medications because they cause nausea in a lot of people. It is RX only but not a controlled medication. It does not mean that Prince was on chemo. Pain medications can cause nausea, even vomiting, just from taking them (it is a side effect) or from withdrawals, too.

--Well we know it can be used for other things than chemo but it was written for Kirk but I get your point and I feel for people in this stituation but hey no one believes Prince had any pain.

Doctors commonly prescribe either ondansetron or promethazine with pain medications because they make so many people nauseous.

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Reply #231 posted 04/21/17 6:34pm

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PeteSilas said:

i really hope they charge everyone they can, them fuckers will sing like pavoratti once jail time is over their heads and all the beans will get spilled.

I seriously don't think anybody will be charged.

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Reply #232 posted 04/21/17 6:53pm

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laurarichardson said:



PurpleDiamonds1 said:


destinyc1 said:


And this is whats killing everyone.Are these the same pills he took on the plane as well?



According to the search warrant per Kirk it was Percocet on the plane. ???

We cannot go on anything Kirk did or said. So we still do not know what he O.D on the plane.



See Kirk and his lies below.


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During a search warrant executed at Paisley Park on 4/21/2016 (the day Prince was found deceased), a suitcase was found in Prince’s bedroom next to his bed. Among the items inside that suitcase were prescription pill bottles in the name of Johnson. A closer examination of those pill bottles revealed that not all the pills inside the containers were the pills listed on the prescription. One of the pill bottles, a Vitamin D bottle, was found to contain the controlled substance Ondanselron Hydrochloride. A second prescription bottle, said to contain Ondansetron, was found to contain the controlled substance Acetarninophen/oxycodone hydrochloride. The date those medications were prescribed to Johnson, according to the pill bottles, was 4/7/2016. The medications were prescribed by Dr. Schulenberg. Johnson told Investigators he was unaware Prince was addicted to pain medication. Your Affiant is awar



Why would Dr. S prescribe this to Kirk? Was Kirk going thru withdrawals?



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Does anyone find it weird that the Ondansetron was in the Vitamin D bottle and acetamenophen/oxy was in the Ondansetron bottle? Am I reading that correctly?
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Reply #233 posted 04/21/17 7:17pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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Rest in Peace Sweet Prince.

Thank you for making me smile for over 38+ years.

.

BTW the first inventory of 4-21-16 showed over 99+ Watson 853 pills in three (3) different

locations in addition to the other pills found.

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I did not scan the search warrants and inventory (this is for Pete even though the writing in the inventory hurts my eyes) and I will give a summary instead

If there are typos's its because I am drinking (dont act surprised stoned ))

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This is a long request for a search warrant.

This all sounds so cold but it is the facts as represented in the request for a search warrant.

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Search Warrant Inventory #2, Background, and Supporting Affidavit as requested on 4-26-16 (includes Andrew Kornfeld's backpack)

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  1. Laptop Mac Book Pro - Grey color computer
  2. Logitech connectors - attached to computer
  3. Wireless Mouse - Returned to backpack
  4. Book - Emerging Race of Buprenophine (my note - this is commonly known as suboxone) Dr. Kornfeld
  5. Key on single ring - returned to backpack
  6. Pens - returned to backpack
  7. Black case with Oakley sunglasses - returned to backpack
  8. Apple charging cables - returned to backpack
  9. Headphones - returned to backpack
  10. Water bottle - returned to backpack
  11. Grey Patagonia Jacket - returned to backpack
  12. Homepedics - Blood pressure cuff and pulse device - returned to back pack
  13. Plastic zip lock bag - Helds pill found in (packaged separately)
  14. Envelope - Contains suppositories in package (packaged separately)
  15. Envelope - Contains 11 pills with number "N2" on pill (packaged separately)
  16. Envelope - Contains 5 pills with number "54411 on pill (packaged separately)
  17. Envelope - Contains 6 pills -Mylan - with number ""547" on pill (packaged separately)
  18. The police are requesting a search warrant to be able to search Andrew's backpack among other things.
  19. The Sheriff's office received the call at 0943 hours regarding an incident at PP. P was pronounced deceased at 1007 hours. When officers arrived they found six (6) other people including Andrew.
  20. Andrew was interviewed at 1054.
  21. Notation - before Andrew left PP he asked for his backpack which was located in one of the offices in PP studios. The Detective went with Andrew and assisted him in collecting the backpack. The Detective controlled the backpack until the interview with Andrew at City Hall (my note - this is called "chain of evidence")
  22. Andrew flew in on 4-21-16 to meet with P at approximately 6:00 am from California. He was representing his father's clinic - Recovery Without Walls.
  23. Andrew said the meeting was arranged by P's people with his father. Dr. K was unable to meet and his father arranged for Andrew to meet P to discuss concerns, determine if P was a candidate for the program, and determine if he was willing to participate in the program.
  24. Andrew said he, Kirk, and Meron arrived at PP at 0900 (side note - 43 minutes to contact police?)
  25. Kirk and Meron began to look for P around the studio. Andrew heard scream and ran down the hall and observed P lying on left side in the elevator. Andrew said when he saw P he believed he was already deceased and then called 911.
  26. Andrew received information from Kirky that P was struggling with opiate use, and Andrew believed P may have been suffering from opiate withdrawal. P reported not feeling well.
  27. Andrew reported his father had been contacted the on the 20th. The meeting was put together at the last minute. He had not had time to meet to meet with P to discuss the reason he came to meet. (my note - P may not have know about this meeting).
  28. The Detective told Andrew there was a need to control the backpack. Andrew understood.
  29. Andrew disclsosed he had drugs in the bag. There was buprenorphine (my note - suboxone) and he said it was used for opiate addicts. He also had adovan (benzodiazepine) to be used if someone was having a seizure. He also had an anti-nausea suppsitory for puking. He admitted they were controlled substances.
  30. Andrew said he brought these pills on his own accord and his father did not know he brought them (my side note - big fat lie.)
  31. Andrew denied he took the medication from the facility. He said he got them from his own medicine cabinet (my side note - big fat lie) and denied he intended to use them (my side note- big fat lie). Andrew admits it was not a good idea.
  32. Andrew denied he would adminster the medications (my side note - big fat lie) without consulting a doctor.
  33. Andrew when questioned gave a big fat lie story about if an alcoholic having a seizure and if Andrew was on the phone with 911 and he could tell them he had valium, or whatever, and should he give this to them. The Detective told Andrew that 911 nor medics woudl give him instructions about medication.
  34. Andrew said he discovered P was having some distress he would call his dad, or 911. Andrew denied he would give the medications without talking to a doctor.
  35. Andrew stated the suppositories were not controlled and there wasnt that much of it. The Detective told Andrew the other medications were controlled, and he was processing medications that were neither prescribed to him, hew is not a licensed doctor, no did he have authority to administor.
  36. Andrew was told his backpack would be held. Andrew indicated he understood.

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Reply #234 posted 04/21/17 8:07pm

PeteSilas

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Rest in Peace Sweet Prince.

Thank you for making me smile for over 38+ years.

.

BTW the first inventory of 4-21-16 showed over 99+ Watson 853 pills in three (3) different

locations in addition to the other pills found.

.

I did not scan the search warrants and inventory (this is for Pete even though the writing in the inventory hurts my eyes) and I will give a summary instead

If there are typos's its because I am drinking (dont act surprised stoned ))

.

This is a long request for a search warrant.

This all sounds so cold but it is the facts as represented in the request for a search warrant.

.

Search Warrant Inventory #2, Background, and Supporting Affidavit as requested on 4-26-16 (includes Andrew Kornfeld's backpack)

.

  1. Laptop Mac Book Pro - Grey color computer
  2. Logitech connectors - attached to computer
  3. Wireless Mouse - Returned to backpack
  4. Book - Emerging Race of Buprenophine (my note - this is commonly known as suboxone) Dr. Kornfeld
  5. Key on single ring - returned to backpack
  6. Pens - returned to backpack
  7. Black case with Oakley sunglasses - returned to backpack
  8. Apple charging cables - returned to backpack
  9. Headphones - returned to backpack
  10. Water bottle - returned to backpack
  11. Grey Patagonia Jacket - returned to backpack
  12. Homepedics - Blood pressure cuff and pulse device - returned to back pack
  13. Plastic zip lock bag - Helds pill found in (packaged separately)
  14. Envelope - Contains suppositories in package (packaged separately)
  15. Envelope - Contains 11 pills with number "N2" on pill (packaged separately)
  16. Envelope - Contains 5 pills with number "54411 on pill (packaged separately)
  17. Envelope - Contains 6 pills -Mylan - with number ""547" on pill (packaged separately)
  18. The police are requesting a search warrant to be able to search Andrew's backpack among other things.
  19. The Sheriff's office received the call at 0943 hours regarding an incident at PP. P was pronounced deceased at 1007 hours. When officers arrived they found six (6) other people including Andrew.
  20. Andrew was interviewed at 1054.
  21. Notation - before Andrew left PP he asked for his backpack which was located in one of the offices in PP studios. The Detective went with Andrew and assisted him in collecting the backpack. The Detective controlled the backpack until the interview with Andrew at City Hall (my note - this is called "chain of evidence")
  22. Andrew flew in on 4-21-16 to meet with P at approximately 6:00 am from California. He was representing his father's clinic - Recovery Without Walls.
  23. Andrew said the meeting was arranged by P's people with his father. Dr. K was unable to meet and his father arranged for Andrew to meet P to discuss concerns, determine if P was a candidate for the program, and determine if he was willing to participate in the program.
  24. Andrew said he, Kirk, and Meron arrived at PP at 0900 (side note - 43 minutes to contact police?)
  25. Kirk and Meron began to look for P around the studio. Andrew heard scream and ran down the hall and observed P lying on left side in the elevator. Andrew said when he saw P he believed he was already deceased and then called 911.
  26. Andrew received information from Kirky that P was struggling with opiate use, and Andrew believed P may have been suffering from opiate withdrawal. P reported not feeling well.
  27. Andrew reported his father had been contacted the on the 20th. The meeting was put together at the last minute. He had not had time to meet to meet with P to discuss the reason he came to meet. (my note - P may not have know about this meeting).
  28. The Detective told Andrew there was a need to control the backpack. Andrew understood.
  29. Andrew disclsosed he had drugs in the bag. There was buprenorphine (my note - suboxone) and he said it was used for opiate addicts. He also had adovan (benzodiazepine) to be used if someone was having a seizure. He also had an anti-nausea suppsitory for puking. He admitted they were controlled substances.
  30. Andrew said he brought these pills on his own accord and his father did not know he brought them (my side note - big fat lie.)
  31. Andrew denied he took the medication from the facility. He said he got them from his own medicine cabinet (my side note - big fat lie) and denied he intended to use them (my side note- big fat lie). Andrew admits it was not a good idea.
  32. Andrew denied he would adminster the medications (my side note - big fat lie) without consulting a doctor.
  33. Andrew when questioned gave a big fat lie story about if an alcoholic having a seizure and if Andrew was on the phone with 911 and he could tell them he had valium, or whatever, and should he give this to them. The Detective told Andrew that 911 nor medics woudl give him instructions about medication.
  34. Andrew said he discovered P was having some distress he would call his dad, or 911. Andrew denied he would give the medications without talking to a doctor.
  35. Andrew stated the suppositories were not controlled and there wasnt that much of it. The Detective told Andrew the other medications were controlled, and he was processing medications that were neither prescribed to him, hew is not a licensed doctor, no did he have authority to administor.
  36. Andrew was told his backpack would be held. Andrew indicated he understood.

oh, thank you, i thought you forgot

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Reply #235 posted 04/21/17 9:20pm

803

I think it is possible that $65,000 may have been the costs for April, 2016...he had some tests done, bought a number of prescriptions,the doctor made at least one house call, a treatment associate was flown in from California, and emergency personnel were called on the 21st. In moline, there was a fairly sizeable emergency response to the airport, transportation to the hospital, emergency room treatment and tests at the hospital..in the u.s. we pay for all this stuff..I know that our local responders charge couple thousand just to respond to an accident on the interstate.

Last year I had a couple of outpatient procedures and the required testing for the procedures. The bill was $45000. Mine wasn't an emergency so I didn't have the cost of emergency responders, transportation, or emergency room treatment..I don't have money to pay bills like that so I carry insurance.

But, if he preferred to insure himself rather than pay premiums, I think $65,000 could have been the cost of that last month.

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Reply #236 posted 04/21/17 9:33pm

zenarose

If Andrew had all these meds in his back pack.....he could have had all the ones that were found scattered throughout PP in his back pack as well. (Just playing devil's advocate) There are 43 minutes between the arrival at PP and the 911 call. Plenty of time to ..... don't shoot me, it is possible. Or Kirky J already had that handled.
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Reply #237 posted 04/21/17 10:37pm

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zenarose said:

If Andrew had all these meds in his back pack.....he could have had all the ones that were found scattered throughout PP in his back pack as well. (Just playing devil's advocate) There are 43 minutes between the arrival at PP and the 911 call. Plenty of time to ..... don't shoot me, it is possible. Or Kirky J already had that handled.
[Edited 4/21/17 21:36pm]

I also think Andrew arrived before that time we were told but there was no surveillance and yes he had plenty of time to put pills throughout PP even swap some out...and with help from at least Kirk.
I don't know how but you would think they could have tested his backpack and contents to see if there was any residue of fentanyl... He sure had brought a lot of stuff he never planned on administering to Prince.
And these meds were in Andrews medicine cabinet LOL yeah right....
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Reply #238 posted 04/21/17 10:40pm

zenarose

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

zenarose said:

If Andrew had all these meds in his back pack.....he could have had all the ones that were found scattered throughout PP in his back pack as well. (Just playing devil's advocate) There are 43 minutes between the arrival at PP and the 911 call. Plenty of time to ..... don't shoot me, it is possible. Or Kirky J already had that handled.
[Edited 4/21/17 21:36pm]

I also think Andrew arrived before that time we were told but there was no surveillance and yes he had plenty of time to put pills throughout PP even swap some out...and with help from at least Kirk.
I don't know how but you would think they could have tested his backpack and contents to see if there was any residue of fentanyl... He sure had brought a lot of stuff he never planned on administering to Prince.
And these meds were in Andrews medicine cabinet LOL yeah right....



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Reply #239 posted 04/21/17 11:32pm

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zenarose said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:


I also think Andrew arrived before that time we were told but there was no surveillance and yes he had plenty of time to put pills throughout PP even swap some out...and with help from at least Kirk.
I don't know how but you would think they could have tested his backpack and contents to see if there was any residue of fentanyl... He sure had brought a lot of stuff he never planned on administering to Prince.
And these meds were in Andrews medicine cabinet LOL yeah right....



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Yeah to that!

Also it seems very likely Andrew could have brought the fake hydrocodone pill that was laced with fentanyl.
The reason I'm thinking this is if he got caught at the airport it would not have looked like an illegal drug ...or at least it would look as illegal as the rest of the drugs brought in envelopes and baggies.
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