zenarose said:

Agree Zena.... More unanswered questions. So how did Andrew get to PP? Did Kirk and Meron show up and find Andrew inside??

laurarichardson said:

TheEnglishGent said:

You also need to remember that not all people experience all side effects. I certainly didn't experience any impotence or vomiting. When my back pain allowed me to move I was quite capable of going to work and leading my life. But I agree with you about the time and that 2010 is more likely.

--/Where you following the directions because if Prince was addicted that would mean he was taking more than the proper dosage therefore abusing the meds. When you go beyond the dosage you have been prescribed you are going to contispated I know because I did just and it was hell and plenty of time in the bathroom.

You don't have to be taking more than the proper dosage to be come addicted and/or constipated. Your body can become dependent on taking it, constipation is a side effect.

where did you see about people wandering in and out of PP on April 21 after the police arrived?

zenarose said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

Obviously by no foul play they meant there were no obvious signs he was murdered, that dose not mean someone was not messing around with his pain pills. Also the fact that they did not take custody of his computer before they released the crime scene is just stupid. The fact that some one moved, and then most likely used his personal computer is red flag number 1001. Why would anyone need to get on princes personal computer hours after his death, red flag 1002, and knowing how private prince was don't you think he would have kept his passwords private, red flag 1003...

Right. My point is why was PP not secured pending further investigation? Instead people were in and out contaminating the scene. You can't go back so you have to preserve no matter how long it takes. Those folks could have gathered elsewhere.

This in just another thought...not trying to derail either....

Could this situation actually be Prince was trying to get Kirk into rehab???

disch said:

Sheila mentioned this.

Did I SAY the key was for PP? Did I SAY the warrant stated it was for PP? NO! I aske for "thoughts". We are looking at possibilities here. A non medical person showing up to PP with an azz load of controlled substances in envelopes is not only illegal, but SINISTER to boot. And HOW is it a stretch when not one person knows how this guy got into PP, who let him in,etc. everyone has asked this from day one. I happened to catch this, and asked for thoughts on it,period.

disch said:

[Edited 4/22/17 9:26am]

Are your sure Sheila was talking about April 21 (do you have a link)? As far as I knew she didn't arrive at PP until a couple days later for the service...

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

disch said:

where did you see about people wandering in and out of PP on April 21 after the police arrived?

Sheila mentioned this.

Wasn't Shelia, Wendy, and Lisa all seen at the airport on the 21st on their way to MN??

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

This in just another thought...not trying to derail either.... Could this situation actually be Prince was trying to get Kirk into rehab???

how does that in any way possibly fit,

Prince overdosed on a plane 1 week earlier.

oscarchristio777 said:

And Kirk was there...
I have no idea if my strange thought was possible...I just put it out there.
Kirk fits the profile of needing assistance more than Prince. Kirk also seemed to be a bit angry towards Prince when he was last on the morning show.

manabean84 said:

--If he had been taking handful of pills for 20 years (meaning abusing) he would have been spending a lot of time constipated and vomiting. Along with the over side effects of these meds. Some of you not me believe he abusing meds for 20 years. Prince was not superman the effects of the abuse if these meds would have impacted his life greatly. I believe he had Rxs in other people's name just like Dr.S did with Kirk and in recent years started to abuse possibly due to being cut of, Watsons being discontinued or the crack down on prescribing them. Something made him go off track and unfortunately since their is a web of lies being concocted by his so-called staff we are never going to find out the real story.
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PurpleDiamonds1 said:

--I am not sure why people are discounting that something is or was wrong with Kirk. The doctor said he wrote controlled substances Rxs for Kirk. The doctor said this in a press release. Are people missing this info? His behavior in of itself is strange.
[Edited 4/22/17 10:50am]

She was on a plane that day. In fact their is TMZ sticking a camera in her face at the airport. She did s interview yesterday about walking around in Paisley Park seeing her tapes and drums she was walking around in there along with a lot of other folks.

disch said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Rest in Peace Sweet Prince.

Thank you for making me smile for over 38+ years.

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BTW the first inventory of 4-21-16 showed over 99+ Watson 853 pills in three (3) different

locations in addition to the other pills found.

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I did not scan the search warrants and inventory (this is for Pete even though the writing in the inventory hurts my eyes) and I will give a summary instead

If there are typos's its because I am drinking (dont act surprised ))

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This is a long request for a search warrant.

This all sounds so cold but it is the facts as represented in the request for a search warrant.

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Search Warrant Inventory #2, Background, and Supporting Affidavit as requested on 4-26-16 (includes Andrew Kornfeld's backpack)

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1. Laptop Mac Book Pro - Grey color computer
2. Logitech connectors - attached to computer
3. Wireless Mouse - Returned to backpack
4. Book - Emerging Race of Buprenophine (my note - this is commonly known as suboxone) Dr. Kornfeld
5. Key on single ring - returned to backpack
6. Pens - returned to backpack
7. Black case with Oakley sunglasses - returned to backpack
8. Apple charging cables - returned to backpack
9. Headphones - returned to backpack
10. Water bottle - returned to backpack
11. Grey Patagonia Jacket - returned to backpack
12. Homepedics - Blood pressure cuff and pulse device - returned to back pack
13. Plastic zip lock bag - Helds pill found in (packaged separately)
14. Envelope - Contains suppositories in package (packaged separately)
15. Envelope - Contains 11 pills with number "N2" on pill (packaged separately)
16. Envelope - Contains 5 pills with number "54411 on pill (packaged separately)
17. Envelope - Contains 6 pills -Mylan - with number ""547" on pill (packaged separately)
18. The police are requesting a search warrant to be able to search Andrew's backpack among other things.
19. The Sheriff's office received the call at 0943 hours regarding an incident at PP. P was pronounced deceased at 1007 hours. When officers arrived they found six (6) other people including Andrew.
20. Andrew was interviewed at 1054.
21. Notation - before Andrew left PP he asked for his backpack which was located in one of the offices in PP studios. The Detective went with Andrew and assisted him in collecting the backpack. The Detective controlled the backpack until the interview with Andrew at City Hall (my note - this is called "chain of evidence")
22. Andrew flew in on 4-21-16 to meet with P at approximately 6:00 am from California. He was representing his father's clinic - Recovery Without Walls.
23. Andrew said the meeting was arranged by P's people with his father. Dr. K was unable to meet and his father arranged for Andrew to meet P to discuss concerns, determine if P was a candidate for the program, and determine if he was willing to participate in the program.
24. Andrew said he, Kirk, and Meron arrived at PP at 0900 (side note - 43 minutes to contact police?)
25. Kirk and Meron began to look for P around the studio. Andrew heard scream and ran down the hall and observed P lying on left side in the elevator. Andrew said when he saw P he believed he was already deceased and then called 911.
26. Andrew received information from Kirky that P was struggling with opiate use, and Andrew believed P may have been suffering from opiate withdrawal. P reported not feeling well.
27. Andrew reported his father had been contacted the on the 20th. The meeting was put together at the last minute. He had not had time to meet to meet with P to discuss the reason he came to meet. (my note - P may not have know about this meeting).
28. The Detective told Andrew there was a need to control the backpack. Andrew understood.
29. Andrew disclsosed he had drugs in the bag. There was buprenorphine (my note - suboxone) and he said it was used for opiate addicts. He also had adovan (benzodiazepine) to be used if someone was having a seizure. He also had an anti-nausea suppsitory for puking. He admitted they were controlled substances.
30. Andrew said he brought these pills on his own accord and his father did not know he brought them (my side note - big fat lie.)
31. Andrew denied he took the medication from the facility. He said he got them from his own medicine cabinet (my side note - big fat lie) and denied he intended to use them (my side note- big fat lie). Andrew admits it was not a good idea.
32. Andrew denied he would adminster the medications (my side note - big fat lie) without consulting a doctor.
33. Andrew when questioned gave a big fat lie story about if an alcoholic having a seizure and if Andrew was on the phone with 911 and he could tell them he had valium, or whatever, and should he give this to them. The Detective told Andrew that 911 nor medics woudl give him instructions about medication.
34. Andrew said he discovered P was having some distress he would call his dad, or 911. Andrew denied he would give the medications without talking to a doctor.
35. Andrew stated the suppositories were not controlled and there wasnt that much of it. The Detective told Andrew the other medications were controlled, and he was processing medications that were neither prescribed to him, hew is not a licensed doctor, no did he have authority to administor.
36. Andrew was told his backpack would be held. Andrew indicated he understood.

occams razor maybe for the 43 minutes?woudnt the first port of call be to see prince?

dialdad4advice sounds incredbily stupid,so stupid its amazing me.Andrew is the key to this i think,43 minutes is a long time

You need to go back and look at some video from that day. Loads of people were in Paisley Park that day.

disch said:

Hmm interesting. I've watched a lot of video and haven't seen any showing people wandering in and put of pp on April 21 and I've seen no video showing what was going on in the interior of pp during those days but sounds like you've seen video that shows these things. Okay.


Laura Richardson

said:

Also think the family should sue cali doc. for malpractice. If he had done nothing that would have been fine, but to send his 20 something son on the red eye, maybe making those who called him think they had found help, does not seem legal to me. When you put it in the context of other health issues...princes people call a heart surgeon in California and tell him they think prince is on the verge of a terrible heart attack, the cali doc says, sorry I am busy, I will send my 20 something year old son to assess the situation, but don't worry, I will send some scalpels and suture in case there is an emergency when he gets there, he can call me and I can walk him through it over the phone.

disch said:

Well there was at least one person inside after the police left that moved princes computer

sgthaggis said:

Notice that he had a lot of these pills and anti-seziure meds.Dr.S had already written withdrawal drugs so why bring more? Does anyone know why he would have needed so much if Prince was going to get on the plane and go back to Califorina with Andrew? Once again why has Andrew not been charged with anything?
[Edited 4/22/17 11:27am]

As i read the synopsis of Andrew going to PP,I wondered if he was a Prince fan and begged his dad to let him go and look after Prince

The reporters are standing outside people are inside the building. The publist is in front of the building speaking. Do you think she flew to Minneapolis and stood outside in the rain? Sheila E did interviews were she said she was inside. Someone moved the laptop to the office. It took 45 before they even found him and Andrew's backpack was in a office not on his person so he was wandering around before hand.

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[Edited 4/22/17 11:29am]

laurarichardson said:

Really does make you wonder, if he had been stopped on the street with those drugs and gave the same story, you think he would not have been charged, doubtful. Also warrant said he brought them himself, he did not get them from his dad, so he also would have to have a prescription for all of those pills, so,the police saw prescriptions for all those pills in Andrews name, doubtful. And for him to travel with those meds legally, they would have to be in the bottles they were dispensed in with his name on them.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

PennyPurple said:

There was nobody there but Prince, Andrew couldn't have just walked in PP by himself. Then they had to look for Prince. In one of the warrants it said while they were looking for him, they heard a scream, which probably means that the woman assistant found him in the elevator.

I don't remember that they heard a scream and then found him, I do remember the doc's kid sayings people were screaming when he was on the 911 call. How do you account for the person that new prince best in the entire world Kirk, did not find him in the elevator to his apartment for 45 minutes? That is illogical

It's in one of the warrants:

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Kirk and Meron began to look for P around the studio. Andrew heard scream and ran down the hall and observed P lying on left side in the elevator. Andrew said when he saw P he believed he was already deceased and then called 911.

laurarichardson said:

manabean84 said:

You don't have to be taking more than the proper dosage to be come addicted and/or constipated. Your body can become dependent on taking it, constipation is a side effect.

--If he had been taking handful of pills for 20 years (meaning abusing) he would have been spending a lot of time constipated and vomiting. Along with the over side effects of these meds. Some of you not me believe he abusing meds for 20 years. Prince was not superman the effects of the abuse if these meds would have impacted his life greatly. I believe he had Rxs in other people's name just like Dr.S did with Kirk and in recent years started to abuse possibly due to being cut of, Watsons being discontinued or the crack down on prescribing them. Something made him go off track and unfortunately since their is a web of lies being concocted by his so-called staff we are never going to find out the real story. [Edited 4/22/17 10:46am]

AGAIN Laura, not everybody has those side effects.

This is truly unsettling...an unlicensed person travels across state lines with controlled substances in his backpack and nothing happens? Does not compute...

laurarichardson said:

sgthaggis said:

occams razor maybe for the 43 minutes?woudnt the first port of call be to see prince?

dialdad4advice sounds incredbily stupid,so stupid its amazing me.Andrew is the key to this i think,43 minutes is a long time

Notice that he had a lot of these pills and anti-seziure meds.Dr.S had already written withdrawal drugs so why bring more? Does anyone know why he would have needed so much if Prince was going to get on the plane and go back to Califorina with Andrew? Once again why has Andrew not been charged with anything? [Edited 4/22/17 11:27am]

oliviacamron said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Mayte, among many others who were in P's inner circle have made a lot of inconsistent statements.

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KJ is not being truthful, and I'm glad you mentioned what he said in that CBS interview because I was going to say something about that -- when the interviewer said to him "There are people who want someone to be prosecuted for the death of Prince", and KJ's response was "That is their problem.".........Woah....really now?

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OMG!!! I didn't know Kirk said that !! He sounds defensive and guilty ! If not, he would have said he hoped for the same. I mean, shouldn't Kirk want the people who made the poison pills to get caught? I guess not , wonder why?

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Yes, KJ said that. You can watch it on YT (CBS interview). I think it was "CBS This Morning".

PennyPurple said:

But many people do. Prince was a person just like anybody else but if you want to believe he popped a handful of pills for breakfast everyday for 20 years with no prescription go ahead and knock yourself out. I bet he pored Coke on his Captain Crunch and smoked a few joints everyday as well and none noticed.

cloveringold85 said:

They showed this part of the interview Monday morning. Pathetic.

laurarichardson said:

Did I hear correctly?? " It's their problem, not "ours" "?????
Who else is he including with himself?

gatorgirl said:

oliviacamron said:

cloveringold85 said: OMG!!! I didn't know Kirk said that !! He sounds defensive and guilty ! If not, he would have said he hoped for the same. I mean, shouldn't Kirk want the people who made the poison pills to get caught? I guess not , wonder why?

This is the thing with Mayte. She was with him for roughly a decade and can only think of a few times where she "thinks" he may have been abusing meds? She should have kept her mouth shut after saying "I never saw him do anything". Speculation is never good (though yes we all do it from time to time but I would not want my last words on Prince and drug use being pure speculation). Maybe he really was having migraines. Maybe he really did overdo it with aspirin and wine. Was this something that happened like, weekly? Apparently not. I do not think that a spouse, even one who spent quite a bit of time alone, could hide a severe addicition, and on top of that, I do not think he could have escaped having at least several ODs. That is like someone hiding alcoholism from their spouse for a decade--almost impossible. He looked healthy up until the last year or so, and even then he just looked thinner than normal. I don't think he was able to escape withdrawals for years. It seems, or I hope, that his issues were rather recent. I just wish he hadn't tried to go this alone or apparently had "yes men" around him.

As for Kirk, I haven't seen the interview but it bothers me he let a doctor write an RX in his name for a narcotic for someone who was obviously having issues. If he was taking them for real pain, I would have done him the favor of finding him a doctor to try and figure out why he was in pain (likely for his hip, did he need hip replacements)? I don't want to blame Kirk, I want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but he should be angry as hell that someone essentially poisoned his best friend and is running around free.

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I agree. Her comments are contradictory because on one hand she said she never saw he had a pill problem, then she says that she flushed pills down the toilet one time, and she said she didn't really think about it or what they were. Really? So what if Prince enjoyed an occasional glass or wine or two, so did she, but that doesn't make him a drug addict. She even posted videos of herself on YT while drinking.

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KJ doesn't want to discuss anything regaring Prince's death because he's under investigation. His remarks were very cold and quite troubling, in my opinion. For a man who was so close to Prince thoughout his entire career to act so distant and uncaring is just beyond me. He does not seem upset at all. He's not being truthful. He had a hand in Prince's dependency, it's obvious. Maybe it's KJ himself who has the dependency with pills and not Prince?