PurpleDiamonds1 said:

I remember Laura saying she had found out a time discrepancy with Andrew... Still think he was around prior to the time said ... But IDK

Andrew's arrival to MN could easily be verified with his ticket and video. I am sure the airport has survelliance cameras. Not to mention the hotel will have the same to verify his time frame.

I have not heard anything from LE or reports to speculate that his alibi did not check out.

nelcp777 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Another theory is that Prince was dropped off on the evening of April 20, 2016 and could have been placed in the elevator, hence his clothing being on backwards.

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Does anyone yet know WHO dropped Prince off? That is a big mystery.

Have no idea who dropped him off or if anyone saw him walking into PP or like you said could he have been placed in the elevator. Like ISasha said ....his clothes all backwards even his socks bothers me too. He was left to be found that way as a message IMO

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I sure hope the investigators know who it was that dropped him off. There's been lots of debate here about his clothing and socks being on backwards. It is very bizarre, to say the least. Also, it seems odd that Prince would even go into the elevator if he was not feeling well. Seems more logical to call someone or 911, instead of trying to get on the elevator. Too many pieces of the puzzle that don't fit.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Also find it hard to believe Prince would have wanted to die in PP ... If he had any control over the situation. IMO He would not have wanted his fans to think of that when they visited.

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Me too. I don't think Prince would want to go that way. The circumstances surrounding Prince's death is so bizarre. It almost seems staged. Like, someone wanted him to be found that way. Perhaps a symbolic message? Who knows! I think this is a mystery that will go unsolved.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

nelcp777 said:

Andrew's arrival to MN could easily be verified with his ticket and video. I am sure the airport has survelliance cameras. Not to mention the hotel will have the same to verify his time frame.

I have not heard anything from LE or reports to speculate that his alibi did not check out.

You are correct LE could verify when Andrew arrived in Minnesota. Have not heard anything regarding that either way... LE most likely would not have released that info. The warrants we saw was just what Andrew and Kirk said we never saw notes confirming anything. We also did not see what LE found out with cell phone records [Edited 5/18/17 12:51pm]

There is a reporter/radio host that has a blog and she is saying that there are not red-eye flights to Minnesota from N.California so Andrew is not being honest about when he arrived.

I am sure the police have already checked into this and I am not sure how this blogger would know the flights times that went out that day so I just let this go.

I do remember reading right after the 21st that Andrew came into town the night of the 20th and I remember thinking if this was an emergency and Prince knew he was coming how come Andrew did not go to Paisley Park immediatly.

Things do not make sense with Andrew and all the drugs he brought illegally across state lines and the fact that he appears to be getting a pass but I do not see him at any fault for Prince's death.

I can't verify what the flights were available in April 2016 but now, Delta does offer direct flight from San Francisco to Minneapolis that lands at 6:10 am on Thursdays:

https://www.google.com/fl...t0000-0200

laurarichardson said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

nelcp777 said: You are correct LE could verify when Andrew arrived in Minnesota. Have not heard anything regarding that either way... LE most likely would not have released that info. The warrants we saw was just what Andrew and Kirk said we never saw notes confirming anything. We also did not see what LE found out with cell phone records [Edited 5/18/17 12:51pm]

There is a reporter/radio host that has a blog and she is saying that there are not red-eye flights to Minnesota from N.California so Andrew is not being honest about when he arrived.

I am sure the police have already checked into this and I am not sure how this blogger would know the flights times that went out that day so I just let this go.

I do remember reading right after the 21st that Andrew came into town the night of the 20th and I remember thinking if this was an emergency and Prince knew he was coming how come Andrew did not go to Paisley Park immediatly.

Things do not make sense with Andrew and all the drugs he brought illegally across state lines and the fact that he appears to be getting a pass but I do not see him at any fault for Prince's death.

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disch said:

I can't verify what the flights were available in April 2016 but now, Delta does offer direct flight from San Francisco to Minneapolis that lands at 6:10 am on Thursdays:

https://www.google.com/fl...t0000-0200

laurarichardson said:

There is a reporter/radio host that has a blog and she is saying that there are not red-eye flights to Minnesota from N.California so Andrew is not being honest about when he arrived.

I am sure the police have already checked into this and I am not sure how this blogger would know the flights times that went out that day so I just let this go.

I do remember reading right after the 21st that Andrew came into town the night of the 20th and I remember thinking if this was an emergency and Prince knew he was coming how come Andrew did not go to Paisley Park immediatly.

Things do not make sense with Andrew and all the drugs he brought illegally across state lines and the fact that he appears to be getting a pass but I do not see him at any fault for Prince's death.

[Edited 5/19/17 6:41am]

Thanks Disch. I put faith in LE and I am sure they checked out the alibis of those present at PP. I am also inclined that there is a lot more information that has not been leaked or is in the warrant information. I also believe they have an idea, but just lack the solid evidence to prove it.

laurarichardson said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

nelcp777 said: You are correct LE could verify when Andrew arrived in Minnesota. Have not heard anything regarding that either way... LE most likely would not have released that info. The warrants we saw was just what Andrew and Kirk said we never saw notes confirming anything. We also did not see what LE found out with cell phone records [Edited 5/18/17 12:51pm]

There is a reporter/radio host that has a blog and she is saying that there are not red-eye flights to Minnesota from N.California so Andrew is not being honest about when he arrived.

I am sure the police have already checked into this and I am not sure how this blogger would know the flights times that went out that day so I just let this go.

I do remember reading right after the 21st that Andrew came into town the night of the 20th and I remember thinking if this was an emergency and Prince knew he was coming how come Andrew did not go to Paisley Park immediatly.

Things do not make sense with Andrew and all the drugs he brought illegally across state lines and the fact that he appears to be getting a pass but I do not see him at any fault for Prince's death.

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Interesting. So, there are in fact no red-eye flights from CA to MN. Personally, I think Andrew was in MN a lot sooner than he stated. Like you said, the authorities have to know when he flew in. They could easily get all that information from the airline.

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Second paragraph: Exactly!! If it was such an emergency as they claimed it to be, then why did Andrew go to his hotel room (as stated)? Personally, I don't think Prince knew Andrew was coming.

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I still think that what Dr. K & Andrew did was shady. What they did was highly unprofessional and unethical, not to mention illegal, but they will both walk away scot-free, imo.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

I have faith in LE also but they must not have enough solid evidence to make an arrest yet. Agree that there is a lot of info they are not saying. I wonder why only Andrew and Kirk are on the warrants but not any of the others that were present. My guess is that they spoke with all but Kirks name was on pill bottles and well Andrew broke the law and brought in who knows what with him on the 20th. Both have been caught lying. Andrews entire story does not add up...neither does whoever called him for a gravely ill, medical emergency before it even happened.

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The Doctor and his Son will not face any charges. Andrew made the 911, so he has indemnity.

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I also find that strange that only Kirk and Andrew are listed in the warrants. You would think there would be more than that.

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Yes, they were both lying; however, the authorities are still trying to find where the illegal Fentanyl came from. Until then, there won't be any arrest(s), and there may never be.

There is a non-stop red-eye flight from San Fran to MPLS -- on delta, leaves 12:30am and gets in at 6:15am. There are a variety of other options that require connections.

cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

There is a reporter/radio host that has a blog and she is saying that there are not red-eye flights to Minnesota from N.California so Andrew is not being honest about when he arrived.

I am sure the police have already checked into this and I am not sure how this blogger would know the flights times that went out that day so I just let this go.

I do remember reading right after the 21st that Andrew came into town the night of the 20th and I remember thinking if this was an emergency and Prince knew he was coming how come Andrew did not go to Paisley Park immediatly.

Things do not make sense with Andrew and all the drugs he brought illegally across state lines and the fact that he appears to be getting a pass but I do not see him at any fault for Prince's death.

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Interesting. So, there are in fact no red-eye flights from CA to MN. Personally, I think Andrew was in MN a lot sooner than he stated. Like you said, the authorities have to know when he flew in. They could easily get all that information from the airline.

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Second paragraph: Exactly!! If it was such an emergency as they claimed it to be, then why did Andrew go to his hotel room (as stated)? Personally, I don't think Prince knew Andrew was coming.

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I still think that what Dr. K & Andrew did was shady. What they did was highly unprofessional and unethical, not to mention illegal, but they will both walk away scot-free, imo.

See the link below that quotes Andrews' lawyer that Andrew took a late flight on April 20th. I remember reading that Andrew came in to town on last April 20th.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3573031/Prince-tried-meet-doctor-death.html

The day before Prince died, his representatives reached out to a California doctor who specializes in addiction treatment to arrange a meeting, a Minneapolis lawyer for the doctor said Wednesday.

Attorney William Mauzy said Dr. Howard Kornfeld had never met or spoken to Prince before Prince's representatives contacted him on April 20 with the musician's knowledge.

Mauzy said Kornfeld wasn't able to travel immediately to Minnesota, so he arranged for his son Andrew to go instead.

Andrew Kornfeld took a late flight on April 20 so he could be at Prince's Paisley Park studio complex the next morning. When he got there, he was one of three people to find Prince in an elevator, unresponsive, and it was he who called 911.

Mauzy said Andrew was carrying a small amount of buprenorphine, which Howard says on his website is a treatment option for patients with addiction issues that offers pain relief with less possibility of overdose and addiction.

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disch said:

There is a non-stop red-eye flight from San Fran to MPLS -- on delta, leaves 12:30am and gets in at 6:15am. There are a variety of other options that require connections.

cloveringold85 said:

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Interesting. So, there are in fact no red-eye flights from CA to MN. Personally, I think Andrew was in MN a lot sooner than he stated. Like you said, the authorities have to know when he flew in. They could easily get all that information from the airline.

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Second paragraph: Exactly!! If it was such an emergency as they claimed it to be, then why did Andrew go to his hotel room (as stated)? Personally, I don't think Prince knew Andrew was coming.

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I still think that what Dr. K & Andrew did was shady. What they did was highly unprofessional and unethical, not to mention illegal, but they will both walk away scot-free, imo.

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laurarichardson said:

See the link below that quotes Andrews' lawyer that Andrew took a late flight on April 20th. I remember reading that Andrew came in to town on last April 20th.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3573031/Prince-tried-meet-doctor-death.html

The day before Prince died, his representatives reached out to a California doctor who specializes in addiction treatment to arrange a meeting, a Minneapolis lawyer for the doctor said Wednesday.

Attorney William Mauzy said Dr. Howard Kornfeld had never met or spoken to Prince before Prince's representatives contacted him on April 20 with the musician's knowledge.

Mauzy said Kornfeld wasn't able to travel immediately to Minnesota, so he arranged for his son Andrew to go instead.

[Edited 5/19/17 12:14pm]

The bolded part is interesting. This would mean Prince was aware of the "intervention". I never heard that before.

disch said:

These say that night he arrived

https://apnews.com/efc4780cd2ac4021ad628fce3fbada2e/report-prince-tried-meet-doctor-death

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-prince-doctor-drugs-20160504-story.html

Still cannot figure out if this was a grave emergency why he did not see Prince that night and of course he broke Federal Laws.

NotACleverName said:

This article in the NY Daily News, http://www.nydailynews.co...1.2624298, does state Andrew took a red-eye flight: "Kornfeld’s son, Andrew, dispatched by his dad on an April 20 red-eye flight, went to Prince’s home from his Minneapolis hotel room around 9:30a.m. the next day." And, in case there are any questions, Wiki (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red-eye_flight), describes a red-eye flight as follows: A red-eye flight is any flight departing late at night and arriving early the next morning. The term red-eye, common in North America, derives from the fatigue symptom of having red eyes, which can be caused or aggravated by late-night travel.[1] The red-eye flight usually flies eastbound. The flight is usually four to six hours, less than seven-hour full sleep, but due to time differences and prevailing jet stream winds from the west, a red-eye flight that departs around midnight arrives around 6am or 7am. Westbound flights that depart around midnight and arrive in the early morning are also colloquially called red-eye flights, despite the fact that those flights are significantly longer than seven or eight hours. The claims fit with the info presented. disch said:

There is a non-stop red-eye flight from San Fran to MPLS -- on delta, leaves 12:30am and gets in at 6:15am. There are a variety of other options that require connections.

Those articles say he "flew out" that night, not that he arrived that night.

laurarichardson said:

These say that night he arrived

https://apnews.com/efc4780cd2ac4021ad628fce3fbada2e/report-prince-tried-meet-doctor-death

http://www.chicagotribune.com/entertainment/music/ct-prince-doctor-drugs-20160504-story.html

Still cannot figure out if this was a grave emergency why he did not see Prince that night and of course he broke Federal Laws.

NotACleverName said:

This article in the NY Daily News, http://www.nydailynews.co...1.2624298, does state Andrew took a red-eye flight: "Kornfeld’s son, Andrew, dispatched by his dad on an April 20 red-eye flight, went to Prince’s home from his Minneapolis hotel room around 9:30a.m. the next day." And, in case there are any questions, Wiki (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red-eye_flight), describes a red-eye flight as follows: A red-eye flight is any flight departing late at night and arriving early the next morning. The term red-eye, common in North America, derives from the fatigue symptom of having red eyes, which can be caused or aggravated by late-night travel.[1] The red-eye flight usually flies eastbound. The flight is usually four to six hours, less than seven-hour full sleep, but due to time differences and prevailing jet stream winds from the west, a red-eye flight that departs around midnight arrives around 6am or 7am. Westbound flights that depart around midnight and arrive in the early morning are also colloquially called red-eye flights, despite the fact that those flights are significantly longer than seven or eight hours. The claims fit with the info presented. disch said:

disch said:

This is really beautiful (see below) what Chris Cornell said (Soundgarden) when Prince passed away. Sadly, Chris passed away yesterday at the young age of 52 of suicide.

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Just to show you how many people/artists that Prince touched and influenced in his short time on this earth.

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AnnaSantana said:

DiminutiveRocker said:

Chris Cornell

April 21, 2016 ·

Prince’s music is the soundtrack to the soulful and beautiful universe he created, and we have all been privileged to be part of that amazing world.

I performed his song "Nothing Compares 2 U" for the first time a couple months ago. It has a timeless relevance for me and practically everyone I know.

Sadly, now his own lyrics in this song could not be more relevant than at this moment, and I sing them now in reverence as I pay tribute to this unequaled artist who has given all of our lives so much inspiration and made the world so much more interesting.

We will miss you Prince!!!

And we will miss you, Chris. RIP

OMG 😢

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Wow! How beautiful!!

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NotACleverName said:

Andrew Kornfeld is listed on his father’s center’s website as a consultant, and Mauzy said it wasn’t uncommon for Howard Kornfeld to send Andrew on his behalf. He said Andrew Kornfeld is a pre-med student and that convincing people to seek treatment at the center is something 'he has done for years'[/b].” So, the fact that Andrew was sent was not a one time occurrence, apparently. One could conclude he had some experience with this procedure prior to Prince's intervention/event.

Which seems to suggest that Andrew is fibbing when he says he had absolutely no intention of giving the meds he was carrying to the patient (Prince) and that they were something he just 'happened' to have lying around in his own medicine cabinet, rather than part of a procedure he and his father had conducted several times before...
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Personally, I think the centre may have been mentioned to P prior to that day, yes - hence him 'having knowledge' of it. But I have real doubts that he knew they were arriving that morning. My feeling is that it was deliberately arranged for 9am in order to surprise him and take advantage of his sleepy state, IF events as they appear are to be believed...

So who do some of you guys think took out Chris Cornell? This plot keeps thickening.

herb4 said:

So who do some of you guys think took out Chris Cornell? This plot keeps thickening.

herb4 said:

So who do some of you guys think took out Chris Cornell? This plot keeps thickening.

How so? I think it's pretty clear his depression took him out. His wife has stated he was acting normal when they talked before the show and then after the show he was slurring his speech. He himself told her he had taken an extra one or two anxiety pills. He seemed to be a high functioning depressive. Maybe he needed to quiet down after the show and took the extra pills. Depression is an ilness and when some thoughts creep up in your mind it's hard to let them go. Under the influence of strong medication, you stop thinking clearly. It's a powerful and frightening combination.
I also think Prince was a high functioning depressive. There were many signs there. His constant working is the biggest one, imo.

MMJas said:

herb4 said:

So who do some of you guys think took out Chris Cornell? This plot keeps thickening.

How so? I think it's pretty clear his depression took him out. His wife has stated he was acting normal when they talked before the show and then after the show he was slurring his speech. He himself told her he had taken an extra one or two anxiety pills. He seemed to be a high functioning depressive. Maybe he needed to quiet down after the show and took the extra pills. Depression is an ilness and when some thoughts creep up in your mind it's hard to let them go. Under the influence of strong medication, you stop thinking clearly. It's a powerful and frightening combination.
I also think Prince was a high functioning depressive. There were many signs there. His constant working is the biggest one, imo.

*WHOOSH*

the joke
^^^

vvv
your head

herb4 said:

MMJas said:

How so? I think it's pretty clear his depression took him out. His wife has stated he was acting normal when they talked before the show and then after the show he was slurring his speech. He himself told her he had taken an extra one or two anxiety pills. He seemed to be a high functioning depressive. Maybe he needed to quiet down after the show and took the extra pills. Depression is an ilness and when some thoughts creep up in your mind it's hard to let them go. Under the influence of strong medication, you stop thinking clearly. It's a powerful and frightening combination.
I also think Prince was a high functioning depressive. There were many signs there. His constant working is the biggest one, imo.

*WHOOSH*

the joke
^^^

vvv
your head

So it did. I'm not in a very happy mood today, as you might have guessed.

zenarose said:

Going back through my notes I found 2 news stories that I had highlighted in yellow. CNN and WCCO (CBS in MN) reported that "none of the prescriptions found at PP had P's name on them" That was a red flag to me because it was reported that the night of the 20th P was seen picking up prescriptions at Walgreens as well as several other times that week. Where are the scripts? Was P picking up meds for someone else?? CONFUZZED

Wasn't P pictured waiting outside the Wallgreens?

TheEnglishGent said:

zenarose said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Wasn't P pictured waiting outside the Wallgreens?

There was a photo but there is a question as to whether it was at Walgreens or Bremer Bank. Not sure it was ever verified as being at Walgreens.

I seem to remember someone posted some images from google street view which confirmed the location as the wallgreen's car park.