Bodhitheblackdog said:

1Sasha said:

None of us know what really happened. None of us know what Prince's reality was. I think he used drugs for decades to be able to function, both emotionally and physically. But, as I have said here before, information/facts/rumor are not adding up for me. I don't believe the family wants the autopsy report revealed because of what it would say. I do think their efforts to sweep his end under the carpet have contributed to the mystery and frustration which remain.

Agree 1000% Prince controlled every aspect of his image, rehearsed obsessively to control every impression of his performances, was reclusive, had a dearth of close relationships, was habituated to cutting people out of his life when they questioned, challenged or were no longer useful to him (even wives who he SWORE before his GOD to be loving and faithful to). Why do so many on this site find it hard to believe his public image may have had very little to do with the life he lived?

Letitgo lyrics: "All my life I've kept my feelings deep inside, never was a reason 2 let somebody know...all my life this heart's been under lock and key, my curtain's were drawn and there wasn't nobody home. Trigger here, trigger there...everybody's high except 4 me, better off dead if I couldn't be alone."

He was alone and lonely his entire life. 'Everyone's high except for me" doesn't refer to drugs. IMO, it means being able to fully connect with others, being able to give and receive love BC you believe you are worthy, living an authentic life (how does one do that behind a MASK of makeup), being fuly present in a healthy reality. You may be able to get flashes of that 'high' on stage, but there's nothing lonelier than a crowd.

Letitgo again: "I, I'm ready 4 the real, give me somethig I can feel." Written in 1994; so more than 20 years ago he was howling in emotional pain and fans applauded, entertained their secret P sexual fantasies, bought the t-shirt...And inside, he was dying.

I totally agree.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

1Sasha said:

None of us know what really happened. None of us know what Prince's reality was. I think he used drugs for decades to be able to function, both emotionally and physically. But, as I have said here before, information/facts/rumor are not adding up for me. I don't believe the family wants the autopsy report revealed because of what it would say. I do think their efforts to sweep his end under the carpet have contributed to the mystery and frustration which remain.

Agree 1000% Prince controlled every aspect of his image, rehearsed obsessively to control every impression of his performances, was reclusive, had a dearth of close relationships, was habituated to cutting people out of his life when they questioned, challenged or were no longer useful to him (even wives who he SWORE before his GOD to be loving and faithful to). Why do so many on this site find it hard to believe his public image may have had very little to do with the life he lived?

Letitgo lyrics: "All my life I've kept my feelings deep inside, never was a reason 2 let somebody know...all my life this heart's been under lock and key, my curtain's were drawn and there wasn't nobody home. Trigger here, trigger there...everybody's high except 4 me, better off dead if I couldn't be alone."

He was alone and lonely his entire life. 'Everyone's high except for me" doesn't refer to drugs. IMO, it means being able to fully connect with others, being able to give and receive love BC you believe you are worthy, living an authentic life (how does one do that behind a MASK of makeup), being fuly present in a healthy reality. You may be able to get flashes of that 'high' on stage, but there's nothing lonelier than a crowd.

Letitgo again: "I, I'm ready 4 the real, give me somethig I can feel." Written in 1994; so more than 20 years ago he was howling in emotional pain and fans applauded, entertained their secret P sexual fantasies, bought the t-shirt...And inside, he was dying.

I can buy he was not a happy go lucky fellow but dying inside come on that is so melodramatic.

Even Elisa said he knew he was loved and he had people around him who loved him in the last years of his life. He was not sitting in the basement of Paisley Park stuffing pain pills in his mouth all day. He was the one he sent people away in his last days meaning he wanted to be alone.

I think people are projecting.

laurarichardson said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

Agree 1000% Prince controlled every aspect of his image, rehearsed obsessively to control every impression of his performances, was reclusive, had a dearth of close relationships, was habituated to cutting people out of his life when they questioned, challenged or were no longer useful to him (even wives who he SWORE before his GOD to be loving and faithful to). Why do so many on this site find it hard to believe his public image may have had very little to do with the life he lived?

Letitgo lyrics: "All my life I've kept my feelings deep inside, never was a reason 2 let somebody know...all my life this heart's been under lock and key, my curtain's were drawn and there wasn't nobody home. Trigger here, trigger there...everybody's high except 4 me, better off dead if I couldn't be alone."

He was alone and lonely his entire life. 'Everyone's high except for me" doesn't refer to drugs. IMO, it means being able to fully connect with others, being able to give and receive love BC you believe you are worthy, living an authentic life (how does one do that behind a MASK of makeup), being fuly present in a healthy reality. You may be able to get flashes of that 'high' on stage, but there's nothing lonelier than a crowd.

Letitgo again: "I, I'm ready 4 the real, give me somethig I can feel." Written in 1994; so more than 20 years ago he was howling in emotional pain and fans applauded, entertained their secret P sexual fantasies, bought the t-shirt...And inside, he was dying.

I can buy he was not a happy go lucky fellow but dying inside come on that is so melodramatic.

Even Elisa said he knew he was loved and he had people around him who loved him in the last years of his life. He was not sitting in the basement of Paisley Park stuffing pain pills in his mouth all day. He was the one he sent people away in his last days meaning he wanted to be alone.

I think people are projecting.

An ironic choice of words as that may very well have been EXACTLY what he was doing.

Bodhitheblackdog said:

laurarichardson said:

I can buy he was not a happy go lucky fellow but dying inside come on that is so melodramatic.

Even Elisa said he knew he was loved and he had people around him who loved him in the last years of his life. He was not sitting in the basement of Paisley Park stuffing pain pills in his mouth all day. He was the one he sent people away in his last days meaning he wanted to be alone.

I think people are projecting.

An ironic choice of words as that may very well have been EXACTLY what he was doing.

Yes, he stuffed a massive amount of pain pills in his mouth and then went for a bike ride, threw a party and went to see a jazz show.

I watched a documentary on HBO last weekend about pain pill abuse none of those people could stand up straight. If you take a massive amount of these pills you are going to in one of 3 places.

Knocked out, vomiting or crapping. I know what I am talking about because this happened to me after gallbladder surgery. I ate percocets like they were tic-tacs for a day.

You would not be doing 3 hour concerts and following it up with a after show and a breakfast of pancakes. Getting six hours of sleep and doing it all again the next day and keeping this up for 30 years.

[Edited 5/12/17 9:00am]

I have to be honest here. I had no clue Prince led the life he did. Not that I was privy to any information on his private life - I never paid any attention to that, frankly. But he just seems to have been so alone in every aspect of his life. Like others have said, you can have friends all over the world, 100,000 people in a stadium screaming your name, the respect and admiration of your peers, even wives and girlfriends who loved you, but when the door closed, it was just you and the guitar, and that wasn't going to hold you at night, and comfort you when you needed it. It's just very, very sad to me.

1Sasha said:

I have to be honest here. I had no clue Prince led the life he did. Not that I was privy to any information on his private life - I never paid any attention to that, frankly. But he just seems to have been so alone in every aspect of his life. Like others have said, you can have friends all over the world, 100,000 people in a stadium screaming your name, the respect and admiration of your peers, even wives and girlfriends who loved you, but when the door closed, it was just you and the guitar, and that wasn't going to hold you at night, and comfort you when you needed it. It's just very, very sad to me.

Maybe he wanted it to be that way. As far as women were concerned he did everything he coulddo too push many of them away. He wanted to be a womanizer and those guys always end up alone and I think he knew it .

[Edited 5/12/17 9:10am]

Easier to push away then maybe be hurt, like his mother hurt him years ago.

PennyPurple said:

oliviacamron said:

SNIP - OF4S

I've went thru 52 pages of posts on this thread, below you will see my posts. I don't think any of them warrants someone wanting me to die.

Sometimes when you go cold turkey from these pain meds it is very dangerous and life threatening. It's better to gradually decrease the meds

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think it adds up. Prince was using the pain killers for his pain and became addicted, he tried to get off of them by himself and that didn't work. Kirk went to his (kirk's) dr and either got a script for himself, or got a script for Prince under his name. But the dr. has 2 different stories. I think Prince was on the pills for a long time, he became tolerant and needed more and more. The pills are hard to obtain, someone got the pills from the street which unbeknownst had the fentynal in them. Romeo the bodyguard said he usually packed Prince's bag and never seen the drugs, my feeling is because they were always hidden in Aleve, Vitamin, Aspirin bottles and Romeo thought it wasn't unusual to pack those for Prince.

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The thing about street drugs, is you never know what you are going to get.

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I also don't think that Prince took 1-2 pills like he told the hospital in Moline when he OD on the plane. I think those were Kirk's pills and he gave them to Prince.

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All of the above is my opinion. ^

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Yeah, he was poisoned by the street drugs that he took. You start buying off the streets, you never know what you are going to get. That's why there is a lot of deaths in the states right now, due to these drugs

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I don't think that Prince or anyone who obtained them for him, knew that they were cut with fentynl. I think they were just buying the real deal. I don't even know if Prince knew they were street drugs.

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t was an active homicide investigation because they were looking for the person who sold or gave these street drugs to Prince.

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MO, I don't think that anybody had the intention to kill Prince. I think they thought they were trying to help him by acquiring these drugs for him. Little did they know that they were deadly. Once again when you get street drugs, you never know what you are going to get, for all anybody knows, they could be cut with rat poison, who knows what these idiots that make them put in them

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Prince died because HE, gave himself the fake pill. Prince took those pills by his own hand, they were self administered.

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don't think anyone but the drug dealer/pusher/maker knew they were fake. Whoever obtained those pills for Prince, probably didn't know either, neither did Prince. Again, you never know what you are going to get when you buy off the streets, there could be rat poison in there for all we know. He self medicated himself.

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Stop right there. See the bolded above. NEVER have I said this is what happens when the addicted use street drugs. DO NOT put words in my mouth. I said You never know what you are going to get when you get street drugs. So just STOP IT RIGHT THERE.

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And don't bring race into it. This case has nothing to do with race.

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Usually when people bring race or Hitler into the convo, it's because they've already lost the arguement and the only thing left is to throw those words into it.

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AGAIN, we are not talking about other cases, we are talking about Prince's case, and race is and was not a factor, IMO.

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You really must not read what other posters say, or you just can't comprehend, because you sure in the hell haven't comprehended what I've been saying, you have everything so twisted about what other people have said.

Penny, NO ONE should be subjected to death threats, no matter what they have posted. Period.

There is NO EXCUSE for INSANE, INSTABLE PEOPLE here.

Olivia should be permanently banned for this bullshit! There is NO EXCUSE. And just to be clear, OLIVIA- backpedaling AFTER THE FACT and saying "NOT LITERALLY", is a sorry ass exuse of an apology. You need to take a seat and log the fuck off , PERMANENTLY, like you have done in REAL LIFE. I have always had a soft spot for you because of your clear detachment with reality, so I actually felt sorry for you, and gave you a pass on all the Russian Conspiracy BS, but THIS...NO MA'AM

precioux said:

PennyPurple said:

I've went thru 52 pages of posts on this thread, below you will see my posts. I don't think any of them warrants someone wanting me to die.

Sometimes when you go cold turkey from these pain meds it is very dangerous and life threatening. It's better to gradually decrease the meds

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think it adds up. Prince was using the pain killers for his pain and became addicted, he tried to get off of them by himself and that didn't work. Kirk went to his (kirk's) dr and either got a script for himself, or got a script for Prince under his name. But the dr. has 2 different stories. I think Prince was on the pills for a long time, he became tolerant and needed more and more. The pills are hard to obtain, someone got the pills from the street which unbeknownst had the fentynal in them. Romeo the bodyguard said he usually packed Prince's bag and never seen the drugs, my feeling is because they were always hidden in Aleve, Vitamin, Aspirin bottles and Romeo thought it wasn't unusual to pack those for Prince.

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The thing about street drugs, is you never know what you are going to get.

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I also don't think that Prince took 1-2 pills like he told the hospital in Moline when he OD on the plane. I think those were Kirk's pills and he gave them to Prince.

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All of the above is my opinion. ^

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Yeah, he was poisoned by the street drugs that he took. You start buying off the streets, you never know what you are going to get. That's why there is a lot of deaths in the states right now, due to these drugs

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I don't think that Prince or anyone who obtained them for him, knew that they were cut with fentynl. I think they were just buying the real deal. I don't even know if Prince knew they were street drugs.

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t was an active homicide investigation because they were looking for the person who sold or gave these street drugs to Prince.

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MO, I don't think that anybody had the intention to kill Prince. I think they thought they were trying to help him by acquiring these drugs for him. Little did they know that they were deadly. Once again when you get street drugs, you never know what you are going to get, for all anybody knows, they could be cut with rat poison, who knows what these idiots that make them put in them

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Prince died because HE, gave himself the fake pill. Prince took those pills by his own hand, they were self administered.

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don't think anyone but the drug dealer/pusher/maker knew they were fake. Whoever obtained those pills for Prince, probably didn't know either, neither did Prince. Again, you never know what you are going to get when you buy off the streets, there could be rat poison in there for all we know. He self medicated himself.

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Stop right there. See the bolded above. NEVER have I said this is what happens when the addicted use street drugs. DO NOT put words in my mouth. I said You never know what you are going to get when you get street drugs. So just STOP IT RIGHT THERE.

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And don't bring race into it. This case has nothing to do with race.

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Usually when people bring race or Hitler into the convo, it's because they've already lost the arguement and the only thing left is to throw those words into it.

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AGAIN, we are not talking about other cases, we are talking about Prince's case, and race is and was not a factor, IMO.

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You really must not read what other posters say, or you just can't comprehend, because you sure in the hell haven't comprehended what I've been saying, you have everything so twisted about what other people have said.

Penny, NO ONE should be subjected to death threats, no matter what they have posted. Period.

There is NO EXCUSE for INSANE, INSTABLE PEOPLE here.

Olivia should be permanently banned for this bullshit! There is NO EXCUSE. And just to be clear, OLIVIA- backpedaling AFTER THE FACT and saying "NOT LITERALLY", is a sorry ass exuse of an apology. You need to take a seat and log the fuck off , PERMANENTLY, like you have done in REAL LIFE. I have always had a soft spot for you because of your clear detachment with reality, so I actually felt sorry for you, and gave you a pass on all the Russian Conspiracy BS, but THIS...NO MA'AM

Thanks Precouix, I've asked that she be permanently banned. We'll see what happens.

PennyPurple said:

precioux said:

Penny, NO ONE should be subjected to death threats, no matter what they have posted. Period.

There is NO EXCUSE for INSANE, INSTABLE PEOPLE here.

Olivia should be permanently banned for this bullshit! There is NO EXCUSE. And just to be clear, OLIVIA- backpedaling AFTER THE FACT and saying "NOT LITERALLY", is a sorry ass exuse of an apology. You need to take a seat and log the fuck off , PERMANENTLY, like you have done in REAL LIFE. I have always had a soft spot for you because of your clear detachment with reality, so I actually felt sorry for you, and gave you a pass on all the Russian Conspiracy BS, but THIS...NO MA'AM

Thanks Precouix, I've asked that she be permanently banned. We'll see what happens.

+1

moonsister said:

I'm looking for Gleeful Tyka video where she happily states there is no will. It's the one where she wears the tacky wig and the wtf eyeglasses. But considering her past, a foot in her mouth probably isn't her biggest problem. Anyway. . . Back to the character assasination of you know who wink wink.

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WTF Eyeglasses, LMAO!!

moonsister said:

laurarichardson said:

Tyka told the court there was no will. I do not remember any video footage so no one knows if she was gleeful. Prince divored M1 so if they find a will I doubt she would be in it.

I do not understand why Tkya keeps getting attacked if Prince had an issue with her he would have drawn up a will and written her out. It is his sister Sharon who is the trouble maker.

I remember the video. And she was just as gleeful when she said it as she was when she said she knew 2 years ago that her brother was going to die. Wheeee! I'm on TV!

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Moonsister: You are too funny!

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Her comment that she knew 2-years ago is twisted beyond belief. First of all, if she did in fact know 2-years ago that her Brother was gonna die, you would think that she would know if there was a Will, and Prince would have had things documented and in order before he knew he was gonna die!

moonsister said:

laurarichardson said:

-// Well I would hope by this time the police have looked into that.

Kirk has not been accused of theft the cops have no right to search his bank accounts. The cops are looking for his drug dealer, the person who gets drugs from China and sells them here.

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I understand, however if there is money missing from the Estate, the authorities need to investigate where it is. KJ was manager of PP, so I'm sure he was managing funds for Prince.

Thanks for your explanation. In my opinion, your views are a little muddled, overly simplistic, and, as has been the case for the past year, are more reflective of a commitment to conservative morality than a medically or socially informed vantage point, but I certainly know that's your deal. You've repeated it lots of times.

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The funny thing is, despite what you claim, I've never described Prince as a "recreational drug user." Not once in a year. That's because I don't find rigid, morally based classifications at all useful for discussing a complicated, multifaceted issues that can change over a person's lifetime. At the end of his life Prince's crisis was that he couldn't control his opioid use on his own, and he didn't get the help he needed. That was the tragedy. Using the word "recreational" to describe ANY person who's reaching that dire place is pointless, at least to me.

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My experience has been that human behavior (including relatinships with substances) often don't fall into such neatly delineated, morally discrete categories (of "all good" or "all bad"; "all acceptable" or "all unacceptable," all the time). Someone could very well start taking opioids because they're prescribed them, and find out that they "enjoy the high," as you put it, because it helps them escape from, say, the reality of bad marriage. Life has so many gray areas, and so do people and experience.

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People struggle in a variety of ways, some that are visible or explanable to others (like physical pain) and some that aren't. My goal is try to stay open-minded to that range and complexity of ALL those experiences and struggles (even ones that are very differnet than mine) and look at people with compassion instead of judgment, rage, and disgust. I'm not perfect at it, but that's what I try to do.

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What it comes down to is, we have little common ground in our worldviews, frankly.

laurarichardson said:

This is going to be the last time I bother responding to you because you read what you want to read and you do have a narrative and nothing is going to change your mind. I suspect you are transferring your own issues on to Prince. I have theories and I have explained exactly why I have those theories numerous times. Not my fault you do not read them. So here we go again.

1) Recreational drug user- someone who is using drugs because they like to get high not because they have a real medical need for the drugs. They never had a medical issue or an Rx. The user is now addicted to the drugs and cannot stop using without medical help. In the past we usually saw this with drugs that were illegal anyway and no one had any possibility of ever having an Rx and you could include excessive alcohol and tobacco consumption. Now of course people are abusing drugs that were once administered by doctors for medical reasons but the point is they never had a legitimate issue for taking them in the first place.

2) Dependency – someone who is prescribed drugs by a medical professional for a real medical problem. The person is dependent on these drugs either to live or to have a decent quality of life. I include psychotropic drugs as well because they are supposed to improve your quality of life. The point is a medical professional has decided an individual needs these drugs for medical reasons

3) I do not believe that Prince was a recreational drug user for 30 or 40 years. The proof just does not exist. I am not saying he never smoked a joint, had a drink ( he even admitted in an interview that he had his time of too much drinking). I am not going to recap that literally dozens of people some of whom knew him as a child are saying repeatly that he was not a drug user and that all of this is coming out of nowhere. I believe he had joint problems that went unattended for a long period of time and that he had an RX for pain meds and at some point and got cut off. I believe he continued to take the meds at the same dosage but at some point something happened and he started to increase his dosage thus becoming addicted. I believe all of this is in recent years since we had the first long gap of no new music beginning in 2010. The big mystery is what happened to him. Did he just start to abuse because he did indeed just become addicted or did he have a medical problem that caused him significant pain which he choose to handle by taking more meds? What made he want to withdraw? Why did he do it on an outpatient basis while trying to work? Prince is supposed to have had hip surgery out of the country so why not go out of the country for rehab and check in under an assumed name. Once you withdraw it is over and done with and if you relapse you just go back to rehab. Something else was going on with him and all of the signs are there for people who are not just stuck on the same old tired narratives.

4) Drugged out rock star and emotional pain. We simply do not have enough information to support either of those theories and those theories are put out there by people who are transposing their problems.

5) We have plenty of people some of whom worked with him in the last years of his life who are telling you he was not a recreational drug user but that he had pain problems even the rehab he was suppose to go to Recovery Without Walls has a pain management component to their program. You have numerous associates telling us repeatedly that we do not know the whole story. Would common sense not dictate that something other than recreational drug use was occurring. Not one person that knew him has waviered from their original statements and estates cannot sue for defamation so how come we are not hearing the stories.

6) If you are not open to any other thoughts about his drugs issues other than recreational drug user than you have a narrative because you are ignoring other aspects of the situation.

[Edited 5/12/17 6:03am]

PennyPurple said:

precioux said:

Penny, NO ONE should be subjected to death threats, no matter what they have posted. Period.

There is NO EXCUSE for INSANE, INSTABLE PEOPLE here.

Olivia should be permanently banned for this bullshit! There is NO EXCUSE. And just to be clear, OLIVIA- backpedaling AFTER THE FACT and saying "NOT LITERALLY", is a sorry ass exuse of an apology. You need to take a seat and log the fuck off , PERMANENTLY, like you have done in REAL LIFE. I have always had a soft spot for you because of your clear detachment with reality, so I actually felt sorry for you, and gave you a pass on all the Russian Conspiracy BS, but THIS...NO MA'AM

Thanks Precouix, I've asked that she be permanently banned. We'll see what happens.

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I agree, that was a bit harsh, but I honestly don't think Olivia meant it, literally.

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Love4OneAnother, come on!!

cloveringold85 said:

precioux said:

oliviacamron said:

PennyPurple said:

Stop right there. See the bolded above. NEVER have I said this is what happens when the addicted use street drugs. DO NOT put words in my mouth. I said You never know what you are going to get when you get street drugs. So just STOP IT RIGHT THERE.

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And don't bring race into it. This case has nothing to do with race.

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Usually when people bring race or Hitler into the convo, it's because they've already lost the arguement and the only thing left is to throw those words into it.

Laura is right and yes you have been saying that penny. When I was driving home tonight I was thinking how I wished you would eat a burger with three grains of salt worths of fentanyl and die. It would be all your fault penny, because you ate the burger

And you're delusional.


Wishing someone to DIE is a threat no matter which way you cut it.

PennyPurple said:

precioux said:

oliviacamron said:

PennyPurple said:

I've went thru 52 pages of posts on this thread, below you will see my posts. I don't think any of them warrants someone wanting me to die.

Sometimes when you go cold turkey from these pain meds it is very dangerous and life threatening. It's better to gradually decrease the meds

.======

think it adds up. Prince was using the pain killers for his pain and became addicted, he tried to get off of them by himself and that didn't work. Kirk went to his (kirk's) dr and either got a script for himself, or got a script for Prince under his name. But the dr. has 2 different stories. I think Prince was on the pills for a long time, he became tolerant and needed more and more. The pills are hard to obtain, someone got the pills from the street which unbeknownst had the fentynal in them. Romeo the bodyguard said he usually packed Prince's bag and never seen the drugs, my feeling is because they were always hidden in Aleve, Vitamin, Aspirin bottles and Romeo thought it wasn't unusual to pack those for Prince.

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The thing about street drugs, is you never know what you are going to get.

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I also don't think that Prince took 1-2 pills like he told the hospital in Moline when he OD on the plane. I think those were Kirk's pills and he gave them to Prince.

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All of the above is my opinion. ^

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Yeah, he was poisoned by the street drugs that he took. You start buying off the streets, you never know what you are going to get. That's why there is a lot of deaths in the states right now, due to these drugs

.=========

I don't think that Prince or anyone who obtained them for him, knew that they were cut with fentynl. I think they were just buying the real deal. I don't even know if Prince knew they were street drugs.

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t was an active homicide investigation because they were looking for the person who sold or gave these street drugs to Prince.

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MO, I don't think that anybody had the intention to kill Prince. I think they thought they were trying to help him by acquiring these drugs for him. Little did they know that they were deadly. Once again when you get street drugs, you never know what you are going to get, for all anybody knows, they could be cut with rat poison, who knows what these idiots that make them put in them

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Prince died because HE, gave himself the fake pill. Prince took those pills by his own hand, they were self administered.

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don't think anyone but the drug dealer/pusher/maker knew they were fake. Whoever obtained those pills for Prince, probably didn't know either, neither did Prince. Again, you never know what you are going to get when you buy off the streets, there could be rat poison in there for all we know. He self medicated himself.

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Stop right there. See the bolded above. NEVER have I said this is what happens when the addicted use street drugs. DO NOT put words in my mouth. I said You never know what you are going to get when you get street drugs. So just STOP IT RIGHT THERE.

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And don't bring race into it. This case has nothing to do with race.

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Usually when people bring race or Hitler into the convo, it's because they've already lost the arguement and the only thing left is to throw those words into it.

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AGAIN, we are not talking about other cases, we are talking about Prince's case, and race is and was not a factor, IMO.

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You really must not read what other posters say, or you just can't comprehend, because you sure in the hell haven't comprehended what I've been saying, you have everything so twisted about what other people have said.

You know these are not the post I'm referring too. I'm talking about he ones where you said over and over that it's Princes own fault he died because he was taking street drugs. Now I don't argue on a he org too often and actually you are the the first person on here that made me angry enough to say what I said. I do not take it back either. You are outright disrespectful to Prince and I will stand up for him. No one threatened you either crybaby

Nope....THESE ARE MY POSTS ON THIS THREAD. YOU KNOW...THE ONES THAT YOU WISH ME DEAD, FOR.....

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i DON'T WANT YOUR APOLOGY, I WANT YOU BANNED.

oliviacamron said:

precioux said:

+1

Y'all are so childish. I did NOT threaten anyone

You outright posted on a public forum that "when you were driving home last night...you wished Pennypurple would eat a burger with 3 grains of Fentanyl and DIE". You are out of your fucking tree and need to be locked up in a psyche ward. Good riddance, psycho!

[Edited 5/12/17 13:13pm]

moonsister said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I understand, however if there is money missing from the Estate, the authorities need to investigate where it is. KJ was manager of PP, so I'm sure he was managing funds for Prince.

i just can't see Prince having a joint account with Kirk. That would be really crazy to me.

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Maybe not a joint account, but it's been discussed here before that Prince may have been squirreling-away money in Swiss bank accounts.

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KJ took off to Switzerland after Prince died.

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Did he feel like skiing?

DAYUUM!! I've been away for 4-months and this place is as crazy as it ever was!!

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Can't we all just get along?

cloveringold85 said:

PennyPurple said:

zenarose said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Maybe not a joint account, but it's been discussed here before that Prince may have been squirreling-away money in Swiss bank accounts.

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KJ took off to Switzerland after Prince died.

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Did he feel like skiing?

⛄ 🏂 ⛷....😆

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WEEeeeeeee!! This is fun!!

cloveringold85 said:

Bodhitheblackdog said:

1Sasha said:

None of us know what really happened. None of us know what Prince's reality was. I think he used drugs for decades to be able to function, both emotionally and physically. But, as I have said here before, information/facts/rumor are not adding up for me. I don't believe the family wants the autopsy report revealed because of what it would say. I do think their efforts to sweep his end under the carpet have contributed to the mystery and frustration which remain.

Agree 1000% Prince controlled every aspect of his image, rehearsed obsessively to control every impression of his performances, was reclusive, had a dearth of close relationships, was habituated to cutting people out of his life when they questioned, challenged or were no longer useful to him (even wives who he SWORE before his GOD to be loving and faithful to). Why do so many on this site find it hard to believe his public image may have had very little to do with the life he lived?

Letitgo lyrics: "All my life I've kept my feelings deep inside, never was a reason 2 let somebody know...all my life this heart's been under lock and key, my curtain's were drawn and there wasn't nobody home. Trigger here, trigger there...everybody's high except 4 me, better off dead if I couldn't be alone."

He was alone and lonely his entire life. 'Everyone's high except for me" doesn't refer to drugs. IMO, it means being able to fully connect with others, being able to give and receive love BC you believe you are worthy, living an authentic life (how does one do that behind a MASK of makeup), being fuly present in a healthy reality. You may be able to get flashes of that 'high' on stage, but there's nothing lonelier than a crowd.

Letitgo again: "I, I'm ready 4 the real, give me somethig I can feel." Written in 1994; so more than 20 years ago he was howling in emotional pain and fans applauded, entertained their secret P sexual fantasies, bought the t-shirt...And inside, he was dying.

I always think that I compose well until I read statements by members such as: Bodhitheblackdog, ISasha and disch that succintcly put things in perspective.

P. was a brilliant musician but he had a really tragic personal life.