zenarose said:

PENNYPURPLE: RE: Your post #396 in the Estate thread..... They (LE) can set that kettle on simmer, it doesn't have to boil today.

Thank you Zena.

Dont forget that Kirk wasnt the only one that lawyered up.

Meron lawyered up immediately after P's passing too.

You're right. I think there is plenty of inside information to go around ...

Just posting this from the Estate thread, which got out of control, LOL

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moonsister said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Me too! Makes no sense that he would be getting street drugs when he already had the Rx from the doctor.

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I think he took what he thought was Vicodin on the 21st because he was trying to get off the drugs, all of them, so he chose the Vicodin over the oxy because it is weaker, safer than oxy, plus he had just overdosed on oxy a few days before. He just had to get through the night, he knew he was going to detox the next day, maybe one weak pill would get him through the night, unfortunately this one pill was laced with fentanyl and he died. Yes on the plane the oxy was the safe choice but at home the Vicodin was the safer choice because 99.9 percent of the time it is not laced with fentanyl, it is weaker than oxy and all he had to do was get through the night, the next day he is going to rehab.

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I read your other post and think you might have something here. I agree; it is quite possible he thought he was taking Vicodin (milder painkiller), but it was actually Fentanyl (he unknowingly took).

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I'm not so sure about the rehab story though. I don't believe that Prince knew about that intervention his crew were planning. Prince already had an appointment with Dr. S on that morning, who was bringing him blood work results. We have discussed this many times in the past and a lot of us are still baffled by this.

Bassette said:

Yes indeed, I'm still baffled. So many possibilities to choose ... Prince might have been ill, maybe not. Accidental overdose, or maybe on purpose? Murder disguised as suicide, or suicide disguised as murder?

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Well, now in the Mark Brown thread, there is talk about Prince stopped taking his meds 2-years ago, thus where the "I knew 2-years ago" comment came from Tyka.

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http://prince.org/msg/7/4...&pg=14

cloveringold85 said:

Laura: See my response below.
Meron as well as his previous personal assistant Myra Brown said that Prince worked from 12:00a.m to 6:00am and would sleep from 6:00pm to 12:00 noon why would he be taking a meeting at 9:00am and why would they all wait around for 45 minutes to go look for him? These are some of the small things that do not have up.

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My response: (cloveringold85)

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That is very interesting. I think it is quite puzzling as well. Was it normal for Prince to have meetings/appointments scheduled for 9AM?

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Like you said, it took 45 minutes for them to find Prince's body in the elevator. Now, if they were there at 9AM, what the hell were they doing for 45-minutes?

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Missing pieces to the puzzle.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

cloveringold85 said:

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laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Well, now in the Mark Brown thread, there is talk about Prince stopped taking his meds 2-years ago, thus where the "I knew 2-years ago" comment came from Tyka.

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http://prince.org/msg/7/4...&pg=14

If he stopped taking his meds two years ahead why try to get off pain pills? Why bother going thru withdrawals? If you have full blown AIDS you are going to die no need to see a doctor about it. None of the drugs prescribed to Kirk have anything to do with HIV/AIDS but they can be used by cancer patients or people trying to withdraw from pain meds. The whole story he thought God would cure him was designed to make him look like a moron and take a shot at religion. If something was wrong and he just did not care why bother going thru withdrawals just take drugs until you die and call it a day. Anyway since he passed I have not seen anything on the gossip blogs about Prince and AIDS and trust me the media would pay someone a lot of money to start talking.

Agree. I don't think it was aids either, makes no sense. Why then go through withdrawl, etc? Also, if indeed he had some form of cancer, and it was terminal, then he probably stopped worrying about the painkiller addiction, which might explain two ods in the same week...

cloveringold85 said:

cloveringold85 said:

moonsister said:

cloveringold85 said:

I think he took what he thought was Vicodin on the 21st because he was trying to get off the drugs, all of them, so he chose the Vicodin over the oxy because it is weaker, safer than oxy, plus he had just overdosed on oxy a few days before. He just had to get through the night, he knew he was going to detox the next day, maybe one weak pill would get him through the night, unfortunately this one pill was laced with fentanyl and he died. Yes on the plane the oxy was the safe choice but at home the Vicodin was the safer choice because 99.9 percent of the time it is not laced with fentanyl, it is weaker than oxy and all he had to do was get through the night, the next day he is going to rehab.

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I read your other post and think you might have something here. I agree; it is quite possible he thought he was taking Vicodin (milder painkiller), but it was actually Fentanyl (he unknowingly took).

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I'm not so sure about the rehab story though. I don't believe that Prince knew about that intervention his crew were planning. Prince already had an appointment with Dr. S on that morning, who was bringing him blood work results. We have discussed this many times in the past and a lot of us are still baffled by this.

Laura: See my response below.
Meron as well as his previous personal assistant Myra Brown said that Prince worked from 12:00a.m to 6:00am and would sleep from 6:00pm to 12:00 noon why would he be taking a meeting at 9:00am and why would they all wait around for 45 minutes to go look for him? These are some of the small things that do not have up.

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My response: (cloveringold85)

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That is very interesting. I think it is quite puzzling as well. Was it normal for Prince to have meetings/appointments scheduled for 9AM?

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Like you said, it took 45 minutes for them to find Prince's body in the elevator. Now, if they were there at 9AM, what the hell were they doing for 45-minutes?

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Missing pieces to the puzzle.

There could be a number of explanations. Here's some possible one, imo:

They were discussing amongst themselves about the best way to approach Prince about an intervention;

They were giving him some time because they knew he would be sleeping;

They found him naked and dressed him in a hurry.

MMJas said:

cloveringold85 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I read your other post and think you might have something here. I agree; it is quite possible he thought he was taking Vicodin (milder painkiller), but it was actually Fentanyl (he unknowingly took).

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I'm not so sure about the rehab story though. I don't believe that Prince knew about that intervention his crew were planning. Prince already had an appointment with Dr. S on that morning, who was bringing him blood work results. We have discussed this many times in the past and a lot of us are still baffled by this.

Laura: See my response below.
Meron as well as his previous personal assistant Myra Brown said that Prince worked from 12:00a.m to 6:00am and would sleep from 6:00pm to 12:00 noon why would he be taking a meeting at 9:00am and why would they all wait around for 45 minutes to go look for him? These are some of the small things that do not have up.

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My response: (cloveringold85)

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That is very interesting. I think it is quite puzzling as well. Was it normal for Prince to have meetings/appointments scheduled for 9AM?

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Like you said, it took 45 minutes for them to find Prince's body in the elevator. Now, if they were there at 9AM, what the hell were they doing for 45-minutes?

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Missing pieces to the puzzle.

There could be a number of explanations. Here's some possible one, imo:

They were discussing amongst themselves about the best way to approach Prince about an intervention;

They were giving him some time because they knew he would be sleeping;

They found him naked and dressed him in a hurry.

I have been wondering if they did find him earlier and dressed him. If he clothes were on backward that would explain it and they could have all just decided to say they found him at 9:45 but found him earlier but you also have the 911 call were you can hear Meron screaming in the background so maybe she was not in on it. I know if he were my friend I would put a sheet or something over him as I would not let anyone see him naked.

But everything was on wrong, even the socks. Plus the ME could see if the body had been moved (they would have had to do that to dress him); the blood would have settled before they moved him. So the investigators would have known that within hours, as soon as the autopsy was conducted.

cloveringold85 said:

cloveringold85 said:

moonsister said:

cloveringold85 said:

I think he took what he thought was Vicodin on the 21st because he was trying to get off the drugs, all of them, so he chose the Vicodin over the oxy because it is weaker, safer than oxy, plus he had just overdosed on oxy a few days before. He just had to get through the night, he knew he was going to detox the next day, maybe one weak pill would get him through the night, unfortunately this one pill was laced with fentanyl and he died. Yes on the plane the oxy was the safe choice but at home the Vicodin was the safer choice because 99.9 percent of the time it is not laced with fentanyl, it is weaker than oxy and all he had to do was get through the night, the next day he is going to rehab.

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I read your other post and think you might have something here. I agree; it is quite possible he thought he was taking Vicodin (milder painkiller), but it was actually Fentanyl (he unknowingly took).

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I'm not so sure about the rehab story though. I don't believe that Prince knew about that intervention his crew were planning. Prince already had an appointment with Dr. S on that morning, who was bringing him blood work results. We have discussed this many times in the past and a lot of us are still baffled by this.

Laura: See my response below.
Meron as well as his previous personal assistant Myra Brown said that Prince worked from 12:00a.m to 6:00am and would sleep from 6:00pm to 12:00 noon why would he be taking a meeting at 9:00am and why would they all wait around for 45 minutes to go look for him? These are some of the small things that do not have up.

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My response: (cloveringold85)

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That is very interesting. I think it is quite puzzling as well. Was it normal for Prince to have meetings/appointments scheduled for 9AM?

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Like you said, it took 45 minutes for them to find Prince's body in the elevator. Now, if they were there at 9AM, what the hell were they doing for 45-minutes?

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Missing pieces to the puzzle.

Think you must have your times mixed up there. Sleeping from 6pm to noon also includes his sleeping hours 12am to 6am. You got him working and sleeping at the same time! perhaps 6pm should really be 6am?

I think Prince worked more than 6 hours a day also, otherwise what would he be doing for the other 12 hours each day? I reckon he worked 20 hours a day and slept for 4.

Rebeljuice said:

cloveringold85 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I read your other post and think you might have something here. I agree; it is quite possible he thought he was taking Vicodin (milder painkiller), but it was actually Fentanyl (he unknowingly took).

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I'm not so sure about the rehab story though. I don't believe that Prince knew about that intervention his crew were planning. Prince already had an appointment with Dr. S on that morning, who was bringing him blood work results. We have discussed this many times in the past and a lot of us are still baffled by this.

Laura: See my response below.
Meron as well as his previous personal assistant Myra Brown said that Prince worked from 12:00a.m to 6:00am and would sleep from 6:00pm to 12:00 noon why would he be taking a meeting at 9:00am and why would they all wait around for 45 minutes to go look for him? These are some of the small things that do not have up.

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My response: (cloveringold85)

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That is very interesting. I think it is quite puzzling as well. Was it normal for Prince to have meetings/appointments scheduled for 9AM?

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Like you said, it took 45 minutes for them to find Prince's body in the elevator. Now, if they were there at 9AM, what the hell were they doing for 45-minutes?

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Missing pieces to the puzzle.

Think you must have your times mixed up there. Sleeping from 6pm to noon also includes his sleeping hours 12am to 6am. You got him working and sleeping at the same time! perhaps 6pm should really be 6am?

I think Prince worked more than 6 hours a day also, otherwise what would he be doing for the other 12 hours each day? I reckon he worked 20 hours a day and slept for 4.

Sigh, It is a typo. According to his assitance he worked overnight up until 6:00am. He slept from 6:00 am to Noon and Myra said she would come into work at 1:00pm. Meron said the same thing and that it would be nothing to come into work and have 100 e-mails from the early morning hours. Was he really taking a meeting at 9:00am especially if he was not feeling well as it appears Dr. S showed up when the paramedics arrived around 10:00am.

Bassette said:

laurarichardson said:

I don't think he knew about Andrew, either. The clothing still bothers me, especially the socks.

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Well, now in the Mark Brown thread, there is talk about Prince stopped taking his meds 2-years ago, thus where the "I knew 2-years ago" comment came from Tyka.

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http://prince.org/msg/7/4...&pg=14

If he stopped taking his meds two years ahead why try to get off pain pills? Why bother going thru withdrawals? If you have full blown AIDS you are going to die no need to see a doctor about it. None of the drugs prescribed to Kirk have anything to do with HIV/AIDS but they can be used by cancer patients or people trying to withdraw from pain meds. The whole story he thought God would cure him was designed to make him look like a moron and take a shot at religion. If something was wrong and he just did not care why bother going thru withdrawals just take drugs until you die and call it a day. Anyway since he passed I have not seen anything on the gossip blogs about Prince and AIDS and trust me the media would pay someone a lot of money to start talking.

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I agree and none of this makes any sense. Maybe Prince was just trying to numb himself with the pain pills until it was time to go? We just don't know what he was dealing with. When a person can no longer enjoy the things they used to, they start to give up. Maybe Prince had enough and accepted his fate? I don't know??

MMJas said:

cloveringold85 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I read your other post and think you might have something here. I agree; it is quite possible he thought he was taking Vicodin (milder painkiller), but it was actually Fentanyl (he unknowingly took).

.

I'm not so sure about the rehab story though. I don't believe that Prince knew about that intervention his crew were planning. Prince already had an appointment with Dr. S on that morning, who was bringing him blood work results. We have discussed this many times in the past and a lot of us are still baffled by this.

Laura: See my response below.
Meron as well as his previous personal assistant Myra Brown said that Prince worked from 12:00a.m to 6:00am and would sleep from 6:00pm to 12:00 noon why would he be taking a meeting at 9:00am and why would they all wait around for 45 minutes to go look for him? These are some of the small things that do not have up.

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My response: (cloveringold85)

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That is very interesting. I think it is quite puzzling as well. Was it normal for Prince to have meetings/appointments scheduled for 9AM?

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Like you said, it took 45 minutes for them to find Prince's body in the elevator. Now, if they were there at 9AM, what the hell were they doing for 45-minutes?

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Missing pieces to the puzzle.

There could be a number of explanations. Here's some possible one, imo:

They were discussing amongst themselves about the best way to approach Prince about an intervention;

They were giving him some time because they knew he would be sleeping;

They found him naked and dressed him in a hurry.

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All of the above is quite plausible and we just don't know.

laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

There could be a number of explanations. Here's some possible one, imo:

They were discussing amongst themselves about the best way to approach Prince about an intervention;

They were giving him some time because they knew he would be sleeping;

They found him naked and dressed him in a hurry.

I have been wondering if they did find him earlier and dressed him. If he clothes were on backward that would explain it and they could have all just decided to say they found him at 9:45 but found him earlier but you also have the 911 call were you can hear Meron screaming in the background so maybe she was not in on it. I know if he were my friend I would put a sheet or something over him as I would not let anyone see him naked.

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Another theory is that Prince was dropped off on the evening of April 20, 2016 and could have been placed in the elevator, hence his clothing being on backwards.

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Does anyone yet know WHO dropped Prince off? That is a big mystery.

Rebeljuice said:

cloveringold85 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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I read your other post and think you might have something here. I agree; it is quite possible he thought he was taking Vicodin (milder painkiller), but it was actually Fentanyl (he unknowingly took).

.

I'm not so sure about the rehab story though. I don't believe that Prince knew about that intervention his crew were planning. Prince already had an appointment with Dr. S on that morning, who was bringing him blood work results. We have discussed this many times in the past and a lot of us are still baffled by this.

Laura: See my response below.
Meron as well as his previous personal assistant Myra Brown said that Prince worked from 12:00a.m to 6:00am and would sleep from 6:00pm to 12:00 noon why would he be taking a meeting at 9:00am and why would they all wait around for 45 minutes to go look for him? These are some of the small things that do not have up.

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My response: (cloveringold85)

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That is very interesting. I think it is quite puzzling as well. Was it normal for Prince to have meetings/appointments scheduled for 9AM?

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Like you said, it took 45 minutes for them to find Prince's body in the elevator. Now, if they were there at 9AM, what the hell were they doing for 45-minutes?

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Missing pieces to the puzzle.

Think you must have your times mixed up there. Sleeping from 6pm to noon also includes his sleeping hours 12am to 6am. You got him working and sleeping at the same time! perhaps 6pm should really be 6am?

I think Prince worked more than 6 hours a day also, otherwise what would he be doing for the other 12 hours each day? I reckon he worked 20 hours a day and slept for 4.

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Yes, I figured it was 6AM. I read somewhere that one of his employee's stated that Prince would usually get up around 10AM and start his day and work until the wee hours of the morning. Now, I don't know if he was still doing that when he was 57.

laurarichardson said:

Rebeljuice said:

Think you must have your times mixed up there. Sleeping from 6pm to noon also includes his sleeping hours 12am to 6am. You got him working and sleeping at the same time! perhaps 6pm should really be 6am?

I think Prince worked more than 6 hours a day also, otherwise what would he be doing for the other 12 hours each day? I reckon he worked 20 hours a day and slept for 4.

Sigh, It is a typo. According to his assitance he worked overnight up until 6:00am. He slept from 6:00 am to Noon and Myra said she would come into work at 1:00pm. Meron said the same thing and that it would be nothing to come into work and have 100 e-mails from the early morning hours. Was he really taking a meeting at 9:00am especially if he was not feeling well as it appears Dr. S showed up when the paramedics arrived around 10:00am.

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Okay, sleeping until Noon sounds about right for Prince.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

Bassette said:

Yes indeed, I'm still baffled. So many possibilities to choose ... Prince might have been ill, maybe not. Accidental overdose, or maybe on purpose? Murder disguised as suicide, or suicide disguised as murder?

With everything about his death that does not make sense ..my opinion has been murder disguised as a suicide.... He had no idea about those fake pills

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^^ I agree ^^

cloveringold85 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Another theory is that Prince was dropped off on the evening of April 20, 2016 and could have been placed in the elevator, hence his clothing being on backwards.

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Does anyone yet know WHO dropped Prince off? That is a big mystery.

Have no idea who dropped him off or if anyone saw him walking into PP or like you said could he have been placed in the elevator. Like ISasha said ....his clothes all backwards even his socks bothers me too. He was left to be found that way as a message IMO

I am thinking that, too -- it was deliberate for him to be dressed that way.