laurarichardson said:

Mumio said:

WOW. I knew we'd hear something from people who worked with him at some point...and truth be told, there has been some undercurrent talk going on and has been for some time about his health...but it's good that these people understand that no one is served by pretending this was an overdose death the way it's being interpreted by so many. Prince told us who he was over the years and what we know is that any drug use wasn't recreational and that's why the story doesn't sit well.

--It is going to come out soon. Already some info going around closed Facebook pages that sound creditable.

Which is?

1Sasha said:

laurarichardson said:

--It is going to come out soon. Already some info going around closed Facebook pages that sound creditable.

So what have they said? I am in two FB Prince groups - one "secret" - and they aren't saying anything.

Friend me on FB and I will tell you.

muleFunk said:

1Sasha said:

laurarichardson said: So what have they said? I am in two FB Prince groups - one "secret" - and they aren't saying anything.

Friend me on FB and I will tell you.

Why can't it be said here? What's with the secrecy?

TheEnglishGent said:

muleFunk said:

Friend me on FB and I will tell you.

Why can't it be said here? What's with the secrecy?

I agree English Gent. Why wouldn't you want to share with the other members?

I've posted here but it's too many writers and producers lurking now and I am possibly in the beginning stages of writing a book.

laurarichardson said:

1Sasha said:

Appolonia's cryptic posts make a lot of sense if she knows something.

If she did tell Mark Prince was ill, ill in the sense of having an ilness and not ill as in dependant of painkillers ill, then she's probably bursting to tell the world, cause the idea of him being labelled a drug addict by the tabloids and rag mags must be killing her inside. Just saying.

MMJas said:

Appolonia's cryptic posts make a lot of sense if she knows something.

If she did tell Mark Prince was ill, ill in the sense of having an ilness and not ill as in dependant of painkillers ill, then she's probably bursting to tell the world, cause the idea of him being labelled a drug addict by the tabloids and rag mags must be killing her inside. Just saying.

Thats the thing isnt it MMjas ?

If Appolonia knew he was sick, and she wasnt even within his inner inner circle towards the end, then there are SURELY others who KNOW...so the quesions is

How are they tolerating him being labelled as such

AND

WHY are they keeping quiet"

If I knew I coulnt hold it in..

Id be like

You cold hearted arsholes, Prince was sick with xyz for years and was suffering immense Physical pain. His death is a SIgn o The times, when Pharmaceutical drugs are being used to exterminate us.Prince was a Victim

something like that...

I just cant bear to hear him being referred to in any other , but a ,respectful way.

WHat this Pint Sized Giant achieved in his life time, is Beyond Incredible..

Its inconcievable...

Lovejunky said:

MMJas said:

Appolonia's cryptic posts make a lot of sense if she knows something.

If she did tell Mark Prince was ill, ill in the sense of having an ilness and not ill as in dependant of painkillers ill, then she's probably bursting to tell the world, cause the idea of him being labelled a drug addict by the tabloids and rag mags must be killing her inside. Just saying.

Thats the thing isnt it MMjas ?

If Appolonia knew he was sick, and she wasnt even within his inner inner circle towards the end, then there are SURELY others who KNOW...so the quesions is

How are they tolerating him being labelled as such

AND

WHY are they keeping quiet"

If I knew I coulnt hold it in..

Id be like

You cold hearted arsholes, Prince was sick with xyz for years and was suffering immense Physical pain. His death is a SIgn o The times, when Pharmaceutical drugs are being used to exterminate us.Prince was a Victim

something like that...

I just cant bear to hear him being referred to in any other , but a ,respectful way.

WHat this Pint Sized Giant achieved in his life time, is Beyond Incredible..

Its inconcievable...

There are two plausible explanations for that, imo.

First, Prince demanded that nobody make public of his ilness. Hence his sister alluding to knowing for two years, other people saying he looked ill, others saying that the fans do not know the whole story, Jill Jones stating some time back that Prince looked out of it, etc. It's killing them inside, but they are doing their best to honour his wishes.

Secondly, the "ilness" that Appolonia refers to is the painkiller addiction/dependancy. Mark himself said on that posted interview that he was told that Prince was taking painkillers and that it was common knowledge amongst his close friends/associates. Hence Kravitz stating in an interview that he had a pretty good idea of what might have happened.

MMJas said:

Lovejunky said:

Thats the thing isnt it MMjas ?

If Appolonia knew he was sick, and she wasnt even within his inner inner circle towards the end, then there are SURELY others who KNOW...so the quesions is

How are they tolerating him being labelled as such

AND

WHY are they keeping quiet"

If I knew I coulnt hold it in..

Id be like

You cold hearted arsholes, Prince was sick with xyz for years and was suffering immense Physical pain. His death is a SIgn o The times, when Pharmaceutical drugs are being used to exterminate us.Prince was a Victim

something like that...

I just cant bear to hear him being referred to in any other , but a ,respectful way.

WHat this Pint Sized Giant achieved in his life time, is Beyond Incredible..

Its inconcievable...

There are two plausible explanations for that, imo.

First, Prince demanded that nobody make public of his ilness. Hence his sister alluding to knowing for two years, other people saying he looked ill, others saying that the fans do not know the whole story, Jill Jones stating some time back that Prince looked out of it, etc. It's killing them inside, but they are doing their best to honour his wishes.

Secondly, the "ilness" that Appolonia refers to is the painkiller addiction/dependancy. Mark himself said on that posted interview that he was told that Prince was taking painkillers and that it was common knowledge amongst his close friends/associates. Hence Kravitz stating in an interview that he had a pretty good idea of what might have happened.

I think it is possible that he was taking pain pills and started abusing them when he got ill. So saying he was addicted is not a lie just not the whole story. We have heard numerous assoicates say we do not know the whole story implying other things were going on with him beyond just pain pill addiction.

I also do not see any reason for him to be sick from pain pilll abuse when he could have gone to any rehab even out of the United States to dry out. If he does not work you go back and try again or he could have a private doctor help him which appears to be the reason he was seeing Dr. S.

No reason to be continuesoly sick from pain pills for years.

No reason to have been seen in the Walgreens for more than a year picking up meds if he was just addicted to illegal pain meds. No reason to have 65k in medical expenses on his inventory sheet if it was illegal pain pills.

No reason for the chefs to say they were lied to about his health, no reason that Prince should look like death warmed over when documentarties and other programs show pain pill addicts who are visablly high but do not look anywhere near what Prince looked like from the Australian and Atlanta pics.

No reason to think he was not dealing with muliple issues.

laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

There are two plausible explanations for that, imo.

First, Prince demanded that nobody make public of his ilness. Hence his sister alluding to knowing for two years, other people saying he looked ill, others saying that the fans do not know the whole story, Jill Jones stating some time back that Prince looked out of it, etc. It's killing them inside, but they are doing their best to honour his wishes.

Secondly, the "ilness" that Appolonia refers to is the painkiller addiction/dependancy. Mark himself said on that posted interview that he was told that Prince was taking painkillers and that it was common knowledge amongst his close friends/associates. Hence Kravitz stating in an interview that he had a pretty good idea of what might have happened.

I think it is possible that he was taking pain pills and started abusing them when he got ill. So saying he was addicted is not a lie just not the whole story. We have heard numerous assoicates say we do not know the whole story implying other things were going on with him beyond just pain pill addiction.

I also do not see any reason for him to be sick from pain pilll abuse when he could have gone to any rehab even out of the United States to dry out. If he does not work you go back and try again or he could have a private doctor help him which appears to be the reason he was seeing Dr. S.

No reason to be continuesoly sick from pain pills for years.

No reason to have been seen in the Walgreens for more than a year picking up meds if he was just addicted to illegal pain meds. No reason to have 65k in medical expenses on his inventory sheet if it was illegal pain pills.

No reason for the chefs to say they were lied to about his health, no reason that Prince should look like death warmed over when documentarties and other programs show pain pill addicts who are visablly high but do not look anywhere near what Prince looked like from the Australian and Atlanta pics.

No reason to think he was not dealing with muliple issues.

Just after Prince left us, I saw him in my morning meditation as If in X ray form...

I saw Multiple Stress Fractures in his bones.His thighs ankles shins hips and back.

I was shocked but not suprised

As a former Dancer, I have injured my ankles many times...as Im getting older those old injuries pain me, especially when its cold.

I also had some hip and knee injuries...sometimes my hips ache like a Bad Tooth Pain grinding deep into my bones..Its awful and sometimes I have to take pain relief or I cant sleep..

I believe that was One of his issues....

I also believe that there was something else....

He certainlly Looked like he had some kind of digestive disease, He was clearly not absorbing nutrients properly towards the end.His skin was sallow, lacking his usual Lustre..

The pain killers didnt make him look like that..something else did.

In the last few months he slid very significantly. He was very skinny at St Barts..

And Yes...I do understand that they might be honouring his wishes...

It seems like the only reason I can think of that would make sense...

UNLESS there is a heavy duty gag order on them all !!

You didn't miss anything. Here on the org people have talked about basically cancer and/or leukemia, which is a form of cancer, or a liver ailment. They are not talking about HIV/AIDS over on FB.

I wish we were getting to the truth!

2nd thread got too wayyyy long. To be continued on another new thread......... Cheers mods!

Where is the new thead??? I haven't seen where the mods have said anything.

fortuneandserendipity said:

2nd thread got too wayyyy long. To be continued on another new thread......... Cheers mods!

MMJas said:

Appolonia's cryptic posts make a lot of sense if she knows something.

If she did tell Mark Prince was ill, ill in the sense of having an ilness and not ill as in dependant of painkillers ill, then she's probably bursting to tell the world, cause the idea of him being labelled a drug addict by the tabloids and rag mags must be killing her inside. Just saying.

If it was 'killing her inside' then she should just say what she knows. Cryptic shit was annoying when Prince was alive, it's just beyond ridiculous now.

TheEnglishGent said:

MMJas said:

Appolonia's cryptic posts make a lot of sense if she knows something.

If she did tell Mark Prince was ill, ill in the sense of having an ilness and not ill as in dependant of painkillers ill, then she's probably bursting to tell the world, cause the idea of him being labelled a drug addict by the tabloids and rag mags must be killing her inside. Just saying.

If it was 'killing her inside' then she should just say what she knows. Cryptic shit was annoying when Prince was alive, it's just beyond ridiculous now.

Yeah these people with the cryptic crap, needs to put up, or shut up. It's been over a year now.

TheEnglishGent said:

muleFunk said:

Friend me on FB and I will tell you.

Why can't it be said here? What's with the secrecy?

.

Secret FB page? Hmmm. How could FB be "secret"? Anyone can have a fake name and fake account. You can't trust anyone these days.

MMJas said:

Appolonia's cryptic posts make a lot of sense if she knows something.

If she did tell Mark Prince was ill, ill in the sense of having an ilness and not ill as in dependant of painkillers ill, then she's probably bursting to tell the world, cause the idea of him being labelled a drug addict by the tabloids and rag mags must be killing her inside. Just saying.

.

You would think the authorities have spoken to her by now, so they should know!

Lovejunky said:

laurarichardson said:

I think it is possible that he was taking pain pills and started abusing them when he got ill. So saying he was addicted is not a lie just not the whole story. We have heard numerous assoicates say we do not know the whole story implying other things were going on with him beyond just pain pill addiction.

I also do not see any reason for him to be sick from pain pilll abuse when he could have gone to any rehab even out of the United States to dry out. If he does not work you go back and try again or he could have a private doctor help him which appears to be the reason he was seeing Dr. S.

No reason to be continuesoly sick from pain pills for years.

No reason to have been seen in the Walgreens for more than a year picking up meds if he was just addicted to illegal pain meds. No reason to have 65k in medical expenses on his inventory sheet if it was illegal pain pills.

No reason for the chefs to say they were lied to about his health, no reason that Prince should look like death warmed over when documentarties and other programs show pain pill addicts who are visablly high but do not look anywhere near what Prince looked like from the Australian and Atlanta pics.

No reason to think he was not dealing with muliple issues.

Just after Prince left us, I saw him in my morning meditation as If in X ray form...

I saw Multiple Stress Fractures in his bones.His thighs ankles shins hips and back.

I was shocked but not suprised

As a former Dancer, I have injured my ankles many times...as Im getting older those old injuries pain me, especially when its cold.

I also had some hip and knee injuries...sometimes my hips ache like a Bad Tooth Pain grinding deep into my bones..Its awful and sometimes I have to take pain relief or I cant sleep..

I believe that was One of his issues....

I also believe that there was something else....

He certainlly Looked like he had some kind of digestive disease, He was clearly not absorbing nutrients properly towards the end.His skin was sallow, lacking his usual Lustre..

The pain killers didnt make him look like that..something else did.

In the last few months he slid very significantly. He was very skinny at St Barts..

And Yes...I do understand that they might be honouring his wishes...

It seems like the only reason I can think of that would make sense...

UNLESS there is a heavy duty gag order on them all !!

.

I remember reading reports that blood was found at the scene. That image you saw of fractured bones is quite chilling!!

.

When someone dies of a homicide, there is no privacy and should be no secrecy. All cards should be on the table.

cloveringold85 said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Why can't it be said here? What's with the secrecy?

.

Secret FB page? Hmmm. How could FB be "secret"? Anyone can have a fake name and fake account. You can't trust anyone these days.

You can have closed FB groups.

TheEnglishGent said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Secret FB page? Hmmm. How could FB be "secret"? Anyone can have a fake name and fake account. You can't trust anyone these days.

You can have closed FB groups.

.

Sure, but you still don't know who these people are. Are they more privy to information than the Org is?

cloveringold85 said:

TheEnglishGent said:

You can have closed FB groups.

.

Sure, but you still don't know who these people are. Are they more privy to information than the Org is?

Doubt it.

Prince had to have gotten those pills illegally. I was reading on Yahoo about an officer who just brushed off his shirt, cause it had fentanyl on it and he went unconscious an hour later. Two officers who inhaled some felt like they were dying and still feel unwell, weeks later.

Doctors know that as little as 2 milligrams can kill a person. They wouldn't have prescribed as much as Prince supposedly had with all these stashes of hidden Fentanyl around Paisley Park, in my opinion.

I hate it. He's gone forever.

A test has apparently been developed to test for Fentanyl in illicit drug batches. I was reading about it the other day. But the user would probably not test, so it must be for peace officers or EMTs.

williamb610 said:

Prince had to have gotten those pills illegally. I was reading on Yahoo about an officer who just brushed off his shirt, cause it had fentanyl on it and he went unconscious an hour later. Two officers who inhaled some felt like they were dying and still feel unwell, weeks later.

Doctors know that as little as 2 milligrams can kill a person. They wouldn't have prescribed as much as Prince supposedly had with all these stashes of hidden Fentanyl around Paisley Park, in my opinion.

I hate it. He's gone forever.

No doubt about it, he did get those pills illegally.