TheFman said:

soladeo1 said:

Frankly I'd pay $50 cold hard cash JUST for a re-mastered 9 track PURPLE RAIN.

Prince's 80's albums are so in need of a fresh sonic shine.

I wouldn't give a dime for any remastered version of any album of any artist.
How it came out is how it's supposed to sound.
get yourself the original vinyl album (no fancy 180 gr rubbish) and a high-end turntable and audio installation, and there's no need for any remastered PR album!

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Utter BS. Those vinyl releases are already compromises. Have you ever been to a recording studio and listened to a recording on their $100,000 speakers?

Dibblekins said:

ForceofNature said:

I had the great pleasure of meeting and speaking with Susan Rogers about this release fairly recently and based on what she said about the care they are putting into finding the right versions in the vaults, I think its ok to get excited haha. The fact that she seemed pleased at the care WB is taking for this release is enough for me to feel excited for it, and to have full studio mastered versions of my favorite Prince outtakes makes this great for me.

When she told me they were scouring the vaults making sure the specific version of Wonderful Ass coming out is the one that Prince would have wanted out - that sealed the deal for me.

To me, that suggests Prince hadn't okayed a disc containing unreleased tracks from the vault - because you'd think he would have already selected the versions he wanted on any such disc.

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To me it suggests Prince was blocking/sabotaging this release (hence it not appearing in 2015), and the estate now helping out WBR deliver a decent package so the ongoing contract (between WBR and Prince) can be moved on.

jaawwnn said:

as i've said multiple times in this thread, there should be another cd of unreleased music on this release.


For clarity, and if anyone is interested, here is a copy of the original press release by Warner where they clearly state that included will be two cd's of unreleased music which, assuming this list is correct, is not the case.

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Technically those tracks are unreleased in this particular mastering version. See also: WBR's claims WRT "previously unreleased on CD" tracks on 4Ever. This is record company speak.

bluegangsta said:

KlyphIsBackAgain said:

purpleprime said: Not only that but I remember when this set was first announced people on these boards were saying that the extended versions/etc NEEDED to be in this set for completion. What can I say, it's the internet....

The extended versions are needed. The edited versions are not - we already have them numerous times over and no one really cares for them.

[Edited 4/19/17 18:38pm]

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Nonsense. These packages NEED to include all those things, in equal mastering quality. You shouldn't need to seek out dozens of other releases to collect these all, they should be part of a single package. But they're the bare minimum, especially WRT Prince.

OnlyNDaUsa said:

disc 3 is 75 Mins long that is about the length of 2 albums... they could have given them spread out on 2 cds... so i am fine with this set

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Oh come on. You lot seriously come up with the lamest excuses. This is a compilation, and thus there is no reason to apply an arbitrary limit based on the limitations of an outdated format.

BartVanHemelen said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

disc 3 is 75 Mins long that is about the length of 2 albums... they could have given them spread out on 2 cds... so i am fine with this set

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Oh come on. You lot seriously come up with the lamest excuses. This is a compilation, and thus there is no reason to apply an arbitrary limit based on the limitations of an outdated format.

well, at least it was a positive. We are getting 2 album's worth of stuff

OnlyNDaUsa said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Oh come on. You lot seriously come up with the lamest excuses. This is a compilation, and thus there is no reason to apply an arbitrary limit based on the limitations of an outdated format.

well, at least it was a positive. We are getting 2 album's worth of stuff

Supposed to be getting two albums of unreleased stuff. I'm happy with disc 3, but was expecting another disc like that.

TheEnglishGent said:

OnlyNDaUsa said:

well, at least it was a positive. We are getting 2 album's worth of stuff

Supposed to be getting two albums of unreleased stuff. I'm happy with disc 3, but was expecting another disc like that.

me too! given what we know is out there! Like the longer "Beautiful ones."

I was hoping for stuff I had not even heard of... (and I am not whining about having most of this stuff in some form). I just hope this is not indicative of what is really in the vault.

abit gutted by tracklist . no associated artists apollonia, time or modernaire or wednesday because that is probably an ssociated artist song. no demos

even the casual fans would prefer that to 7" edits of tracks .That is just an easy/lazy option. Now we have same song about 3 times and not even the more interesting demoes like beautiful ones and extended purple rain with extra lyrics just edits. .

I hope they did not listen to databank as he kept crying that only prince could be on it and it looks like earlier tracklist got changed so they have listened to some fans just not the right ones. . He as got the tracklist he deserves. He is probably jumping for joy and living the dream. . But like a punch in the gut to me .

Even the casaul fan will not want shorten versions. Having same song 3 times will bore them they could have had associated stuff .

1st disc. why just leave at purple rain only you could have 50 minutes more on that?.

why spred this thing out and give as little as possible.?

easy money like i said . it as descent songs but it is the minimum expected and could have been so much more.

TheEnglishGent said:

BartVanHemelen said:

TheFman said:

I wouldn't give a dime for any remastered version of any album of any artist.
How it came out is how it's supposed to sound.
get yourself the original vinyl album (no fancy 180 gr rubbish) and a high-end turntable and audio installation, and there's no need for any remastered PR album!

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Utter BS. Those vinyl releases are already compromises. Have you ever been to a recording studio and listened to a recording on their $100,000 speakers?

There are two things with remasters:
1- the overall sound quality (your point above)

2- differences in mixing: my point. For example, remastered Megadeth's Hangar 18 compared to the original one is a completely different beast. Sure the sound is 'better' but the mixing is totally wrong. Just the intro alone, where other instruments get to the foreground much more. THIS is not how it's supposed to sound. Is it was, they would have done it back than. That's my issue with remasters.

master said:

BartVanHemelen said:

Graycap23 said:

Wow......they need their asses whipped for this.

This is a MAJOR letdown.

Who the hell needs a disk of 7" edits?

Where is the list of songs from the other artists that appeared on the movie?

There is only 1 song on the Prince Disk 3 that we don't already have.

What a letdown.

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Gotta love how people pretend that WBR are to blame, and not the dude who blocked these kind of releases for decades.

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That said: this would have been a decent release as a first attempt back in say... 1999 (15th anniversary). Barely good enough in 2004. In 2017? Pathetic. We should be getting alternate versions for most album tracks, at least several concerts, relevant outtakes (no "Wednesday"?),...

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Oh well, let's hope the estate gets their shit together soon and that WBR et al collaborate with Princologists to deliver a stunning package in... 2019?

ha we live in hope. Estate & those advising really do seem clueless. The sooner they get fans input the better. I fear the same frustrations we have with our beloved Prince will continue for years to come...by that time I'll be deaf & rockin in a wheel chair in an OAP's home!

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Gotta love how people pretend that WBR are to blame, and not the dude who blocked these kind of releases for decades.

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That said: this would have been a decent release as a first attempt back in say... 1999 (15th anniversary). Barely good enough in 2004. In 2017? Pathetic. We should be getting alternate versions for most album tracks, at least several concerts, relevant outtakes (no "Wednesday"?),...

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Oh well, let's hope the estate gets their shit together soon and that WBR et al collaborate with Princologists to deliver a stunning package in... 2019?

ha we live in hope. Estate & those advising really do seem clueless. The sooner they get fans input the better. I fear the same frustrations we have with our beloved Prince will continue for years to come...by that time I'll be deaf & rockin in a wheel chair in an OAP's home!

haaahaaahaahaaaaaa MOOOOO!!!!! Look into the Crytal Ball. Purple Rain Deluxe edition volume 3 in 2027. $$$ Cow. MoooBart!

bluegangsta said:

TheFman said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Utter BS. Those vinyl releases are already compromises. Have you ever been to a recording studio and listened to a recording on their $100,000 speakers?

There are two things with remasters:
1- the overall sound quality (your point above)

2- differences in mixing: my point. For example, remastered Megadeth's Hangar 18 compared to the original one is a completely different beast. Sure the sound is 'better' but the mixing is totally wrong. Just the intro alone, where other instruments get to the foreground much more. THIS is not how it's supposed to sound. Is it was, they would have done it back than. That's my issue with remasters.

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Using Megadeath as an example is ridiculous. Mustaine fucked so much with those. Those weren't remasters, those were Mustaine rewriting history and "fixing" errors caused by him being blind drunk at the time. Using those as examples is like using that painting of Jesus as restored by that old lady as evidence of how restoration is a bad thing.

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Instead, look up the Dylan remasters from a couple of years ago.

Looking forward to CD3.

CD2 seems odd after considering the legend that he turned in around / over 100 songs for the Purple Rain project. Why not throw in a CD w/a "Runner Up" tracklist?

jaypotton said:

Would hardcore fans have preferred alternate versions of songs - hell yeah! Somebody above complained that the single edits and b-sides could have been on CD1 after the Purple Rain album = NO NO NO. That would be plain wrong. PR remastered and experienced as originally intended only please!

it would not been wrong to fill the rest of disc 1 with musics? you would not want 50 minutes more on your disc. . of course you would.

you could always stop you disc after 9 tracks or just program in 9 tracks.if want to listen to just album.

An absolute waste and again listening to fans is a bad idea if this is the way they think . .We want more music not less. . It lets them get away with giving less stuff out saying just want 30 minutes music on disc.

i think the edits are historically important and should be on the set...just don't think I'll be listening to them that often..

What are the chances this 3 cd set will be released on vinyl in full? The second and thid discs would need to be spread across 3 vinyls at least.

It would be great if it was a 3 vinyl set of the PR album + non 7" mixes of the b-sides plus the 3rd disc.

I imagine a remastered single vinyl of the album only

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

The sooner they get fans input the better. I fear the same frustrations we have with our beloved Prince will continue for years to come...by that time I'll be deaf & rockin in a wheel chair in an OAP's home!

again a big no to listen to fans. Databank cried like a girl and wanted no associated stuff so they listened i think as earlier tracklist we got shown had them on.. And the last fan said only wants 30 minutes on discs 1 when could have an extra 50 minutes music. They just need someones who know what there doing and be generous on a release and give you a decent release which would have been easy with this

Rather than milking it and giving you as little as possible so afew years down the line the release another version. The star wars syndrome

master said:

master said:

jaypotton said:

master said:

it would not been wrong to fill the rest of disc 1 with musics? you would not want 50 minutes more on your disc. . of course you would.

you could always stop you disc after 9 tracks or just program in 9 tracks.if want to listen to just album.

An absolute waste and again listening to fans is a bad idea if this is the way they think . .We want more music not less. . It lets them get away with giving less stuff out saying just want 30 minutes music on disc.

Oh for sure I would want more music (it would be about 35 mins more if I am being pedantic) but personally I would prefer that on another CD and keep the "album" as intended. Remember it will also be bought as a download so those unknowing youngsters may think all those b-sides were part of the "album". Maybe I am just old school but I would want to protect the integrity of the "album" Prince created The other thing people need to recognise is that, as Billy Sparks said, "this is a bidness mother fucker" [sic] and WB don't want to blow all their exploitable assets in one go. They can milk the Vault for years to come and can even milk PR further with the ultimate super duper deluxe edition with the 2 track demo version of the solo bass track intended for When Doves Cry included (I am joking but you see the point...record companies are still exploiting the Beatles recordings years later by releasing ever more obscure versions of known songs etc).

about 18 million of us already have the original 9 track album and most are after the unheard vault stuff. youngsters just want to listen to good songs.they have given us 1 cd of new material in reality on this release

master said:

SuperFurryAnimal said:

PURPLEIZED3121 said:

ha we live in hope. Estate & those advising really do seem clueless. The sooner they get fans input the better. I fear the same frustrations we have with our beloved Prince will continue for years to come...by that time I'll be deaf & rockin in a wheel chair in an OAP's home!

haaahaaahaahaaaaaa MOOOOO!!!!! Look into the Crytal Ball. Purple Rain Deluxe edition volume 3 in 2027. $$$ Cow. MoooBart!

can someone please supply subtitles?...i don't speak gibberish!

hw3004 said:

i think the edits are historically important and should be on the set...just don't think I'll be listening to them that often..

They are on the compilations. They can waste their historical significance on there.

SoulAlive said:

EnDoRpHn said:

Just saw a post on FB claiming that the OP was served with a copyright takedown notice by WBR.

Why are Warners acting so secretive about this release? The info is out there,let the fans enjoy the news! They should have given us a full tracklist weeks ago! I don't like the way they're delaying things and now they're apparenty still trying to keep this info under wraps....wtf

Being involved in the industry, a lot of advance planning goes into these things and I've been insistent for a while that there'd be a press release about this tomorrow. On reflection, I truly believe that Warners want to get this right. They'd see something as this "leaked" reveal as a bit of a spanner in the works, in terms of them trying to maximise press coverage, on the sad anniversary of his passing.