1Sasha said:

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

You dont need a search warrant to interview someone.

As a matter of fact you CANT get a search warrant for an interview.

The police merely ask someone for a "sit down" interview or statement.

Those interviews and/or statements are in the police investigative file.

You will NEVER see those statements and/or interviews.

The police asked the Judge for warrants to gain access to medical records,

phone records, home, etc that normally they would not have access to

due to the Constitution of the United States of America that prohibits

the police from entering your premises and pilfering through your

personal possessions, and files without cause.

I did say you needed a search warrant to interview anyone. Statements were taken and the statements are in the warrants. Not sure why a maid's statement would not be in the warrant as well but we have seen no evidence of a maid so it makes it all moot.

I remember reading that if this ever goes to trial the files will become available to the public eventually

Seriously Laura?

The statements that are in the warrants provides information to the Judge as to why

the warrants should be issued!! The police didnt need a maids statement to get the

warrants. It doesnt mean they didnt interview the maid.

There were many people interviewed for which you WILL NEVER see

nor will they become public information.

If it goes to trial you will HEAR about what happened through testimony.

I can tell you through my own experience that prosecutors hold the police

investigative files close to their chest and it is even difficult for a criminal

defense attorney to get a copy of

the statements of those who will be testifying for the prosecution.

The family needs to say something or this is going to continue and get worst.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

1Sasha said:

I just read the comments on a New York Times article about Prince. Wow! These people are slicing him up bigtime, and the majority are calling him a drug addict.

This is so wrong... I have yet to read a news source that understood the search warrants. My local news had dr s on the plane with P...and nbc's headline is pills found ell over PP the news needed to point out about the ongoing homicide investigation not the bring Prince down again agenda.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

I did say you needed a search warrant to interview anyone. Statements were taken and the statements are in the warrants. Not sure why a maid's statement would not be in the warrant as well but we have seen no evidence of a maid so it makes it all moot.

I remember reading that if this ever goes to trial the files will become available to the public eventually

Seriously Laura?

The statements that are in the warrants provides information to the Judge as to why

the warrants should be issued!! The police didnt need a maids statement to get the

warrants. It doesnt mean they didnt interview the maid.

There were many people interviewed for which you WILL NEVER see

nor will they become public information.

If it goes to trial you will HEAR about what happened through testimony.

I can tell you through my own experience that prosecutors hold the police

investigative files close to their chest and it is even difficult for a criminal

defense attorney to get a copy of

the statements of those who will be testifying for the prosecution.

Why are we continuing to discuss a maid when do not know if one exsisted? . Lord !!!

I expect the files to be held close but the files will be avalible some day. Obvisoulsy not while the investigation is going on and I never said that at all.

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Seriously Laura?

The statements that are in the warrants provides information to the Judge as to why

the warrants should be issued!! The police didnt need a maids statement to get the

warrants. It doesnt mean they didnt interview the maid.

There were many people interviewed for which you WILL NEVER see

nor will they become public information.

If it goes to trial you will HEAR about what happened through testimony.

I can tell you through my own experience that prosecutors hold the police

investigative files close to their chest and it is even difficult for a criminal

defense attorney to get a copy of

the statements of those who will be testifying for the prosecution.

Why are we continuing to discuss a maid when do not know if one exsisted? . Lord !!!

I expect the files to be held close but the files will be avalible some day. Obvisoulsy not while the investigation is going on and I never said that at all.

Are are kidding me??

Because you say they will?

purplepoppy said:

laurarichardson said:

No so many people on this board are reading it I thought you were as well.

It does not make me Un-Hinged. Save the drama for your mama and stop projecting.

Un-Hinged fantasy star in your own drama, fo sho ba-by. Ugh.

You are caring on about a book you did not read. OK makes sense to me.

What exactly do you want the family to say? At the end of his life, Prince WAS dealing with a severe opioid addiction. I think most of us who are looking rationally at the facts accept that.

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It is NOT the family's responsibility to make any statement and certainly not one that backs up whatever conspiracy theories are floating out there.

laurarichardson said:

The family needs to say something or this is going to continue and get worst.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

1Sasha said: This is so wrong... I have yet to read a news source that understood the search warrants. My local news had dr s on the plane with P...and nbc's headline is pills found ell over PP the news needed to point out about the ongoing homicide investigation not the bring Prince down again agenda.

paulludvig said:

1Sasha said:

I just read the comments on a New York Times article about Prince. Wow! These people are slicing him up bigtime, and the majority are calling him a drug addict.

Are you suprised?

I'm not. Specially after that awful tv movie was shown on sunday...

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

LoriJ said:

Here's the thing, the search warrants were released, not the results.

The cell phone and gmails must tell plenty. Both warrants mention kirk, cell gps for whereabouts, calls, texts etc.

He also had access to the after dark gmail account.

Did it strike anyone else that on 04-21 the laptop was in the bedroom, but in the office when they went back to collect it?

Moved and most likely used. You cannot truly delete anything! Computer forensics is amazing.

The results of these search warrants will come to light when they're listed in an arrest warrant. I feel it in my gut and heart.

Where in the warrant does it say the computer was moved to the office when they collected it? We don't know that it was moved or used. Can you provide a link please?

It was definitely moved.

http://www.mncourts.gov/m...ndex-3.pdf

http://www.mncourts.gov/m...dex-19.pdf

RenaRF said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

Why are we continuing to discuss a maid when do not know if one exsisted? . Lord !!!

I expect the files to be held close but the files will be avalible some day. Obvisoulsy not while the investigation is going on and I never said that at all.

Are are kidding me??

Because you say they will?

I said if there was a maid would she have not been interviewed or gave a statement like the rest of the statements in the warrants. You are the one that starts going on about how people cannot be forced to talk ( which is not even the point)

Kirk, bodyguards, and Kiran gave statements or were interviewed no maid was I do not think he had a maid and I only said if he did why would her statements not be in the warrent.

You made your point about that I get it let it go already.

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I know I read that this case file will be avalible if there is a trial. In fact I believe it was even discussed on this board but it does not matter because right now nothing is going to trial.

Once again nothing to talk about.

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The only nutty people on this board are the people who want to make sure I do not get the last word so much so that keep going on about that things that are not really that important in the first place.

What information would a maid have given us that the other people did not give?

How is it relevant to anything?

Remember I am the one that said he did not have one in the first place. I do not know what is worst those that can not grow the fuck up or those whose egos are so out of fucking control they cannot stand to be wrong, corrected or challeged. Or do not have enough common sense to know what a question mark means or what an opinion is.

You do not not have to agreed with my opinion and you do not have to answer my questions but you are not going to tell me what to think or say.

1Sasha said:

His cousin Charles already made a statement yesterday. He thinks foul play was involved. It is not my job or your job to tell them what to say. He was their brother and cousin. He is being made out to look like some mad junky on the prowl and that is not even what you get when you read the warrants.

He had chronic pain and was seeing a doc for withdrawals. He was on his way to a rehab. The media is not showing any compassion which that are not going to do if know one from the family speaks up. I do not expect you to care about any of this because you do not even believe he had any medical problems at all. So carry on.

disch said:

What exactly do you want the family to say? At the end of his life, Prince WAS dealing with a severe opioid addiction. I think most of us who are looking rationally at the facts accept that.

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It is NOT the family's responsibility to make any statement and certainly not one that backs up whatever conspiracy theories are floating out there.

laurarichardson said:

The family needs to say something or this is going to continue and get worst.

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Are are kidding me??

Because you say they will?

I said if there was a maid would she have not been interviewed or gave a statement like the rest of the statements in the warrants. You are the one that starts going on about how people cannot be forced to talk ( which is not even the point)

Kirk, bodyguards, and Kiran gave statements or were interviewed no maid was I do not think he had a maid and I only said if he did why would her statements not be in the warrent.

You made your point about that I get it let it go already.

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I know I read that this case file will be avalible if there is a trial. In fact I believe it was even discussed on this board but it does not matter because right now nothing is going to trial.

Once again nothing to talk about.

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The only nutty people on this board are the people who want to make sure I do not get the last word so much so that keep going on about that things that are not really that important in the first place.

What information would a maid have given us that the other people did not give?

How is it relevant to anything?

Remember I am the one that said he did not have one in the first place. I do not know what is worst those that can not grow the fuck up or those whose egos are so out of fucking control they cannot stand to be wrong, corrected or challeged. Or do not have enough common sense to know what a question mark means or what an opinion is.

You do not not have to agreed with my opinion and you do not have to answer my questions but you are not going to tell me what to think or say.

What's relevant is that Im trying to give you factual information regarding the criminal justice system.

Facts vs. opinion

So your statement above that my "egos are so out of fucking control they cannot stand to be wrong, corrected, or challenged" doesnt apply.

Im giving you facts.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

1Sasha said:

Jill Jones already whacked Kirk on Twitter. She said he lied to her face.

Well it seems He has a pattern of this... Do you have a link?

He is a liar. He lied to the cops and now Dr. S is saying he lied. It is going to be a growing list of accusations unless he speaks up.

1Sasha said:

I just read the comments on a New York Times article about Prince. Wow! These people are slicing him up bigtime, and the majority are calling him a drug addict.

Isn't that basically the same thing lots of people are saying here on the org?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

I said if there was a maid would she have not been interviewed or gave a statement like the rest of the statements in the warrants. You are the one that starts going on about how people cannot be forced to talk ( which is not even the point)

Kirk, bodyguards, and Kiran gave statements or were interviewed no maid was I do not think he had a maid and I only said if he did why would her statements not be in the warrent.

You made your point about that I get it let it go already.

------

I know I read that this case file will be avalible if there is a trial. In fact I believe it was even discussed on this board but it does not matter because right now nothing is going to trial.

Once again nothing to talk about.

---------

The only nutty people on this board are the people who want to make sure I do not get the last word so much so that keep going on about that things that are not really that important in the first place.

What information would a maid have given us that the other people did not give?

How is it relevant to anything?

Remember I am the one that said he did not have one in the first place. I do not know what is worst those that can not grow the fuck up or those whose egos are so out of fucking control they cannot stand to be wrong, corrected or challeged. Or do not have enough common sense to know what a question mark means or what an opinion is.

You do not not have to agreed with my opinion and you do not have to answer my questions but you are not going to tell me what to think or say.

What's relevant is that Im trying to give you factual information regarding the criminal justice system.

Facts vs. opinion

So your statement above that my "egos are so out of fucking control they cannot stand to be wrong, corrected, or challenged" doesnt apply.

Im giving you facts.

Thanks I got your facts because after all I never took civics in school and I need you to tell me how the system works while you do not listen that when there is a trail and it is over the public will have access to the files. I never said anything about anyone having to be force to be interviewed I know we do not live in a police state.

Bold mean ego

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

1Sasha said:

Jill Jones already whacked Kirk on Twitter. She said he lied to her face.

Well it seems He has a pattern of this... Do you have a link?

Perhaps she called and asked about him after the plane incident and Kirk told her Prince was fine, had the flu. Makes sense he would lie, specially if those were his instructions.

Now, imagine for a second she called Kirk and asked him if Prince was using opiates or whatever... After all, did she not allude in a FB post to having seen him "out of it" the last time she was with him (were not those her words? if someone remembers, please help me out here, I'm not sure i got this right, does anyone have a copy of that post?), and then deleting the whole post? If that were the case, no wonder she would be really mad at Kirk...

paulludvig said:

1Sasha said:

I just read the comments on a New York Times article about Prince. Wow! These people are slicing him up bigtime, and the majority are calling him a drug addict.

Isn't that basically the same thing lots of people are saying here on the org?

Exactly, he went from being a chronic paid suffer, talented and charitable person to being a drug addict who despite some of the nosense spouted by people on this board is still viewed as negative in our society.

This type of coverage can be devestating to his legacy and I do not want to hear any B.S otherwise.

MMJas said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

1Sasha said: Well it seems He has a pattern of this... Do you have a link?

Perhaps she called and asked about him after the plane incident and Kirk told her Prince was fine, had the flu. Makes sense he would lie, specially if those were his instructions.

Now, imagine for a second she called Kirk and asked him if Prince was using opiates or whatever... After all, did she not allude in a FB post to having seen him "out of it" the last time she was with him (were not those her words? if someone remembers, please help me out here, I'm not sure i got this right, does anyone have a copy of that post?), and then deleting the whole post? If that were the case, no wonder she would be really mad at Kirk...

Good Lord !!!! You do not think she is mad because she helped him kill himself

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

1Sasha said:

Jill Jones already whacked Kirk on Twitter. She said he lied to her face.

Well it seems He has a pattern of this... Do you have a link?

I don't have the link. I belong to two Facebook Prince groups, and one of the members forwarded her tweet to the group.

paulludvig said:

1Sasha said:

I just read the comments on a New York Times article about Prince. Wow! These people are slicing him up bigtime, and the majority are calling him a drug addict.

Isn't that basically the same thing lots of people are saying here on the org?

No, it is not. At least not in the way you are implying.

Personally, I think Prince was self medicating for a long time and had a manageable addiction. It become out of hand in later years because of age, developing high tolerance, continuing physical pain and the strain of having to hide all this. It started to take its toll.

And the reason he had to hide all this is because of how most people react to it, seeing it as a weakness and refusing to accept someone as in control as Prince would fall prey to this condition. Ultimately, we did not know him.

laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

Perhaps she called and asked about him after the plane incident and Kirk told her Prince was fine, had the flu. Makes sense he would lie, specially if those were his instructions.

Now, imagine for a second she called Kirk and asked him if Prince was using opiates or whatever... After all, did she not allude in a FB post to having seen him "out of it" the last time she was with him (were not those her words? if someone remembers, please help me out here, I'm not sure i got this right, does anyone have a copy of that post?), and then deleting the whole post? If that were the case, no wonder she would be really mad at Kirk...

Good Lord !!!! You do not think she is mad because she helped him kill himself

Just a comment that my name here is being used with quotes that aren't mine. If someone is going to reference my statement, please use my statement and not what you edit it down to. Thank you.

I don't think he's being "made out to look like some mad junky on the prowl"; that's what YOU think of someone who is struggling with an addiciton but please don't assume that everyone shares that perspective.

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How is "the media" showing "no compassion"? Can you provide examples of media reports that you feel are "compassionless"?

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As for "he had chronic pain" -- as I've said before, we have no facts about the role chronic physical pain played in his life at the end of his life. I know that's a theory you hold (along with the theory that he had epilepsy, cancer, hep c, chronic liver failure, etc. You've touted all of these theories at various points). We don't know if chronic pain played a HUGE role or no role at the end of his life.

laurarichardson said:

He is being made out to look like some mad junky on the prowl and that is not even what you get when you read the warrants.

He had chronic pain and was seeing a doc for withdrawals. He was on his way to a rehab. The media is not showing any compassion

disch said:

What exactly do you want the family to say? At the end of his life, Prince WAS dealing with a severe opioid addiction. I think most of us who are looking rationally at the facts accept that.

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It is NOT the family's responsibility to make any statement and certainly not one that backs up whatever conspiracy theories are floating out there.

PennyPurple said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

PennyPurple said:

I did, I'm not see it, that's why I'm asking for clarification. And AGAIN, I wasn't asking you for clarification.

Here is the link on pg 3 last couple of paragraphs states the laptop was moved from princes bedroom first time police saw it to an office. http://www.mncourts.gov/m...dex-19.pdf

Thank you. I've printed off the documents.

laurarichardson said:

MMJas said:

Perhaps she called and asked about him after the plane incident and Kirk told her Prince was fine, had the flu. Makes sense he would lie, specially if those were his instructions.

Now, imagine for a second she called Kirk and asked him if Prince was using opiates or whatever... After all, did she not allude in a FB post to having seen him "out of it" the last time she was with him (were not those her words? if someone remembers, please help me out here, I'm not sure i got this right, does anyone have a copy of that post?), and then deleting the whole post? If that were the case, no wonder she would be really mad at Kirk...

Good Lord !!!! You do not think she is mad because she helped him kill himself

WTF??? Am I writing in japanese?

Where did i say that? You are really something, Laura. I was implying that perhaps she called after the plane incident and asked Kirk if Prince was addicted to anything, like pain meds or whatever and because at the time he replyied Prince was not, makes her mad now that Kirk might have hidden something as serious as this from her.

By the way, this is all hypothetical, just theories and people discussing in a forum. But I'm gonna stop posting. I'm sick and tired of your accusations, Laura, of you misreading everything fucking thing I write. So either I can't write my thoughts or you have some form of dyslexia...

MMJas said: