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Reply #810 posted 04/18/17 7:52am

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purplepoppy said:

PennyPurple said:

I think that you are right, that is the only way we are going to be able to discuss anything. neutral

Agree. She is a black hole for attention - any kind.

Yes, I need your attention. Get over yourself. Half of you are commenting on the warrants and questioning what people are saying about them without having read them.

How ignorant is that?

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Reply #811 posted 04/18/17 7:54am

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laytonian said:

laurarichardson said:

He did not have a maid that cleaned his living quarters. The guy who use to clean up after parties said he would come behind him and check his work.

. Didn't I just say he did NOT have a maid? Please start reading before replying. P did not clean his own house. The maintenance guy cleaned P's toilet, took out trash, did laundry. That is much different than a maid. .

It is not a maid. I read what you said. You think a maintence man is a maid. Good for you.

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Reply #812 posted 04/18/17 7:54am

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I know it is a small part of this convo, but ondansetron (aka Zofran) is not for just cancer associated nausea lol. I'm a pediatrician and I prescribe lots of my kiddos small courses of zofran when they're sick with a bug or when they have chronic GI issues. I just didn't want anyone to harp on this too much because it's really probably one of the most frequently prescribed meds imo.

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Reply #813 posted 04/18/17 7:56am

paulludvig

purplepoppy said:

PennyPurple said:

I think that you are right, that is the only way we are going to be able to discuss anything. neutral

Agree. She is a black hole for attention - any kind.

Yeah. Let's make this all about drug addiction. Even better - let's make Prince a poster boy for opiod addicts. Preferably those who take opiods for "emotional pain". (sarcasm alert)

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #814 posted 04/18/17 7:57am

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LRCdancer88 said:

I know it is a small part of this convo, but ondansetron (aka Zofran) is not for just cancer associated nausea lol. I'm a pediatrician and I prescribe lots of my kiddos small courses of zofran when they're sick with a bug or when they have chronic GI issues. I just didn't want anyone to harp on this too much because it's really probably one of the most frequently prescribed meds imo.

It has been discussed that it is used for an upset stomach but unfotunatly when you look it up cancer drug pops up on many sites.

So that is what is going to be discussed. It is weird that the doctor wrote this out to Kirk to protect P's privacy. Why do that for meds for an upset stomach?

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Reply #815 posted 04/18/17 8:00am

LRCdancer88

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laurarichardson said:

LRCdancer88 said:

I know it is a small part of this convo, but ondansetron (aka Zofran) is not for just cancer associated nausea lol. I'm a pediatrician and I prescribe lots of my kiddos small courses of zofran when they're sick with a bug or when they have chronic GI issues. I just didn't want anyone to harp on this too much because it's really probably one of the most frequently prescribed meds imo.

It has been discussed that it is used for an upset stomach but unfotunatly when you look it up cancer drug pops up on many sites.

So that is what is going to be discussed. It is weird that the doctor wrote this out to Kirk to protect P's privacy. Why do that for meds for an upset stomach?

True, but I wonder how much of the upset stomach was actually just related to the pain medications which can really tear up your stomach. Idk. I just didn't want people to get upset to any extreme degree over it.

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Reply #816 posted 04/18/17 8:00am

1Sasha

The warrants don't clear anything up for me. All they have done is make me realize - as if I didn't already - that everything surrounding Prince was almost unbelievable - such a mess with no one by his side.

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Reply #817 posted 04/18/17 8:01am

disch

Again, you argued in many posts that at the end of his life he had EPILEPSY, a specific neurological disorder, not that he had "partial seizures," which by the way can be caused by drug addiction and withdrawal, among many other causes.

laurarichardson said:

If you do some research the Valium can be prescribed for partial seziures.

disch said:

Ah right Laura. Forgot "I saw it on Facebook a while ago." Yup, issue resolved!

-

And keep in mind: You didn't say he had general seizures (a seizure is common and can be caused by a lot of differnet things). You said he specifically had epilepsy and that's why Dr S prescribed him Valium.

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Reply #818 posted 04/18/17 8:02am

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laurarichardson said:

paulludvig said:

Do you really think he did his own cleaning?

I do not think he would want someone in his personal living space espicallly if he had those pills in his room and he was known to follow people around and do some of his own straightening and cleaning.

I also am sure the police would have interviewed a maid that cleaned his room and it would be in the search warrant. They spoke to the bodyguards so I know they would speak to a maid.

You dont need a search warrant to interview people.

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Reply #819 posted 04/18/17 8:02am

purplepoppy

laurarichardson said:

purplepoppy said:

Agree. She is a black hole for attention - any kind.

Yes, I need your attention. Get over yourself. Half of you are commenting on the warrants and questioning what people are saying about them without having read them.

How ignorant is that?

Oh, I read them yesterday morning. You are the one living in an ignorant fantasy world. I AM WOKE UP to your suck the life out of everyone and everything vibe.

Brand new boogie without the hero.
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Reply #820 posted 04/18/17 8:02am

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paulludvig said:

purplepoppy said:

Agree. She is a black hole for attention - any kind.

Yeah. Let's make this all about drug addiction. Even better - let's make Prince a poster boy for opiod addicts. Preferably those who take opiods for "emotional pain". (sarcasm alert)

Thank you. I would like to see people take their emotional pain stories somewhere else.

Not one single person has said Prince was a recreational drug user or a depressed person.

Many have said he had joint pain and many of those people knew him for 20 or 30 years but let us discount what they have to say and forget about the autopsy report.

The arm chair drug counselors know it all.

(SARCASM ALERT) I NEED TO PUT THIS IN ALL CAPS SO SOME OF YOU UNDERSTAND AS SARCASM IS LOST ON SOME OF YOU.

NEXT TIME I WILL PUT IN BOLD.

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Reply #821 posted 04/18/17 8:04am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

I do not think he would want someone in his personal living space espicallly if he had those pills in his room and he was known to follow people around and do some of his own straightening and cleaning.

I also am sure the police would have interviewed a maid that cleaned his room and it would be in the search warrant. They spoke to the bodyguards so I know they would speak to a maid.

You dont need a search warrant to interview people.

This is true but don't you think they would have interviewed a maid and mentioned in the warrant after all a maid would know a lot about the living quarters if they were cleaning the room everyday.

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Reply #822 posted 04/18/17 8:05am

MMJas

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paulludvig said:

MMJas said:

JH was on that plane when he ODed. And we now know he indeed ODed from the search warrants. So Prince took 1 or two pain pills with JH on board of the plane, then proceeded to have a meal with her (pasta) and suddenly became unresponsive after taking the pills.

Does that mean that the pill he took on the plane was also laced with fenatnyl? I don't think you would od from one or two percocets? Doesn't it actually take quite a bit of effort to od from any type of pills considering all the people who tries to commit suicide but fails?

Wouldn't they have checked what pills were those he took once he addmitted taking them, at the hospital and then, subsequently, by the Police investigation?

Is there any indication on the search warrants as to what pills were those? I can't remember exactly.

Also, he said he took one or two, but could have taken way more, perhaps, cause he was already quite tolerant? Or mixed them with wine. He was having dinner with JH.

[Edited 4/18/17 8:09am]

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Reply #823 posted 04/18/17 8:07am

TypoQueen

violetpurple said:

On this issue of Prince having cancer, why would anyone think he needed to go through a rehab program, calling Dr. Kornfeld to set it up, if he had a terminal illness. He can take the pills if he has cancer. Never heard of a cancer patient going through opiate rehab. That completely discounts the cancer/terminal illness theory to me.

Agree.

Medications like Steroids, antiemetics, chemotherapy etc would all have been found. This was not the case.

As for the combo of medication that was found they are medication given for chronic pain and side effects from those drugs.

Antiemetics are also given when tapering (weaning) off medications.

When on long term medication you have to taper slowly over a long period of time as withdrawals can be painful and dangerous.

The medication that was found was not for epileptics.
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Reply #824 posted 04/18/17 8:09am

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purplepoppy said:

laurarichardson said:

Yes, I need your attention. Get over yourself. Half of you are commenting on the warrants and questioning what people are saying about them without having read them.

How ignorant is that?

Oh, I read them yesterday morning. You are the one living in an ignorant fantasy world. I AM WOKE UP to your suck the life out of everyone and everything vibe.

You are sucking the life out of yourself worry about me. If you are not one of ones constantly asking where is that in the warrant, then you should realize that my comments do not apply to you.

Why would you waste your time responding to someone who is so ignorant and beneath your cognitive level? Now go back to reading Mayte's book I am sure it is a book for the super intelligent to read.

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Reply #825 posted 04/18/17 8:12am

1Sasha

I just read the comments on a New York Times article about Prince. Wow! These people are slicing him up bigtime, and the majority are calling him a drug addict.

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Reply #826 posted 04/18/17 8:14am

disch

I agree. I would be into having a respectful, rigorously fact-based discussion (or one that clearly delineates facts from theories) and I'm afraid some posters make that very difficult.

PennyPurple said:

sonshine said:

Laura is the only one who can t accept the simple truth. Or she enjoys looking like an ignorant fool on the internet. Either way I suggest we ignore her remarks in order to have a reasonable discussion in these threads.

I think that you are right, that is the only way we are going to be able to discuss anything. neutral

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Reply #827 posted 04/18/17 8:14am

purplepoppy

laurarichardson said:

purplepoppy said:

Oh, I read them yesterday morning. You are the one living in an ignorant fantasy world. I AM WOKE UP to your suck the life out of everyone and everything vibe.

You are sucking the life out of yourself worry about me. If you are not one of ones constantly asking where is that in the warrant, then you should realize that my comments do not apply to you.

Why would you waste your time responding to someone who is so ignorant and beneath your cognitive level? Now go back to reading Mayte's book I am sure it is a book for the super intelligent to read.


WRONG, don't have her book. You must have me mixed up with someone else. Un-Hinged!

Brand new boogie without the hero.
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Reply #828 posted 04/18/17 8:16am

TypoQueen

LRCdancer88 said:

I know it is a small part of this convo, but ondansetron (aka Zofran) is not for just cancer associated nausea lol. I'm a pediatrician and I prescribe lots of my kiddos small courses of zofran when they're sick with a bug or when they have chronic GI issues. I just didn't want anyone to harp on this too much because it's really probably one of the most frequently prescribed meds imo.


:)Agree.
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Reply #829 posted 04/18/17 8:17am

Dibblekins

disch said:

Exactly. There are no credible reports of a "recommencement" of seizures. That was purely a theory someone here has put forth based on pretty much nothing. There's so much stuff flying around these boards that having some rigor around actual reported information and other theories is helpful. - Note that the warrant states definitely that the plane incident was an od, citing moline doctors as the source. - PennyPurple said:

Where besides this forum has it been mentioned that he was having seizures again?

I believe it was Adrain Crutchfield who was working with him very recently and who said he had started having seizures again.

Forgive me, I can't recall the link - but I am sure Laura would know.

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Reply #830 posted 04/18/17 8:17am

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TypoQueen said:

violetpurple said:
On this issue of Prince having cancer, why would anyone think he needed to go through a rehab program, calling Dr. Kornfeld to set it up, if he had a terminal illness. He can take the pills if he has cancer. Never heard of a cancer patient going through opiate rehab. That completely discounts the cancer/terminal illness theory to me.
Agree. Medications like Steroids, antiemetics, chemotherapy etc would all have been found. This was not the case. As for the combo of medication that was found they are medication given for chronic pain and side effects from those drugs. Antiemetics are also given when tapering (weaning) off medications. When on long term medication you have to taper slowly over a long period of time as withdrawals can be painful and dangerous. The medication that was found was not for epileptics.

One of the aniexty drugs can be used for seizures. We know he had another doctor at Paisley Park the morning he died. We do not know if he had cancer but their are other illness that can be long term and chronic even the joint pain is a chronic illness.

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Reply #831 posted 04/18/17 8:19am

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purplepoppy said:

laurarichardson said:

You are sucking the life out of yourself worry about me. If you are not one of ones constantly asking where is that in the warrant, then you should realize that my comments do not apply to you.

Why would you waste your time responding to someone who is so ignorant and beneath your cognitive level? Now go back to reading Mayte's book I am sure it is a book for the super intelligent to read.


WRONG, don't have her book. You must have me mixed up with someone else. Un-Hinged!

No so many people on this board are reading it I thought you were as well.

It does not make me Un-Hinged. Save the drama for your mama and stop projecting.

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Reply #832 posted 04/18/17 8:21am

ISaidLifeIsJus
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laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

You dont need a search warrant to interview people.

This is true but don't you think they would have interviewed a maid and mentioned in the warrant after all a maid would know a lot about the living quarters if they were cleaning the room everyday.

You dont need a search warrant to interview someone.

As a matter of fact you CANT get a search warrant for an interview.

The police merely ask someone for a "sit down" interview or statement.

Those interviews and/or statements are in the police investigative file.

You will NEVER see those statements and/or interviews.

The police asked the Judge for warrants to gain access to medical records,

phone records, home, etc that normally they would not have access to

due to the Constitution of the United States of America that prohibits

the police from entering your premises and pilfering through your

personal possessions, and files without cause.

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Reply #833 posted 04/18/17 8:21am

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Dibblekins said:

disch said:

Exactly. There are no credible reports of a "recommencement" of seizures. That was purely a theory someone here has put forth based on pretty much nothing. There's so much stuff flying around these boards that having some rigor around actual reported information and other theories is helpful. - Note that the warrant states definitely that the plane incident was an od, citing moline doctors as the source. - PennyPurple said:

I believe it was Adrain Crutchfield who was working with him very recently and who said he had started having seizures again.

Forgive me, I can't recall the link - but I am sure Laura would know.

I think it was him and Marcus who said it and this was shortly after he passed but hey people who worked for him for 6 or 7 years do not know anything. Orgers know more.

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Reply #834 posted 04/18/17 8:22am

tmo1965

laytonian said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Really? How do you happen to know that? If you don't mind my asking.

[Edited 4/18/17 6:19am]

. It's in her biok. He was 5'2" and weighed 118. . The ME report said 5'3" and weighed 112. Not that much difference. . Note that it's notoriously difficult to measure the height of a deceased person. P's height was probably somewhere between 5'2" and 5'3".

During the time that he was married to Mayte, I remember him being thinner than he had been in the past. He did get too thin at times in my opinion. I saw a video of when he was on the George Lopez show, doing an interview, and he seemed to be a bit larger and healthier looking to me. My point is that just because he weighed 118 when Mayte was pregnant does not mean that was his normal weight.

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Reply #835 posted 04/18/17 8:25am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

This is true but don't you think they would have interviewed a maid and mentioned in the warrant after all a maid would know a lot about the living quarters if they were cleaning the room everyday.

You dont need a search warrant to interview someone.

As a matter of fact you CANT get a search warrant for an interview.

The police merely ask someone for a "sit down" interview or statement.

Those interviews and/or statements are in the police investigative file.

You will NEVER see those statements and/or interviews.

The police asked the Judge for warrants to gain access to medical records,

phone records, home, etc that normally they would not have access to

due to the Constitution of the United States of America that prohibits

the police from entering your premises and pilfering through your

personal possessions, and files without cause.

I did say you needed a search warrant to interview anyone. Statements were taken and the statements are in the warrants. Not sure why a maid's statement would not be in the warrant as well but we have seen no evidence of a maid so it makes it all moot.

I remember reading that if this ever goes to trial the files will become available to the public eventually

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Reply #836 posted 04/18/17 8:26am

paulludvig

1Sasha said:

I just read the comments on a New York Times article about Prince. Wow! These people are slicing him up bigtime, and the majority are calling him a drug addict.

Are you suprised?

The wooh is on the one!
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Reply #837 posted 04/18/17 8:27am

violetpurple

laurarichardson said:



TypoQueen said:


violetpurple said:
On this issue of Prince having cancer, why would anyone think he needed to go through a rehab program, calling Dr. Kornfeld to set it up, if he had a terminal illness. He can take the pills if he has cancer. Never heard of a cancer patient going through opiate rehab. That completely discounts the cancer/terminal illness theory to me.

Agree. Medications like Steroids, antiemetics, chemotherapy etc would all have been found. This was not the case. As for the combo of medication that was found they are medication given for chronic pain and side effects from those drugs. Antiemetics are also given when tapering (weaning) off medications. When on long term medication you have to taper slowly over a long period of time as withdrawals can be painful and dangerous. The medication that was found was not for epileptics.

One of the aniexty drugs can be used for seizures. We know he had another doctor at Paisley Park the morning he died. We do not know if he had cancer but their are other illness that can be long term and chronic even the joint pain is a chronic illness.


I never said anything about chronic illness. I said terminal illness. Of course, pain meds and anti anxiety mess can be used for chronic illness. They can also be used for withdrawal. Truth is, we just don't know which it was for. Maybe it was both. I was just making the point that if it were a terminal illness, or even a chronic one, those patients aren't typically advised to go through an opiate withdrawal program.
Whoever's callin, can't be as cute as you.
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Reply #838 posted 04/18/17 8:29am

TypoQueen

laurarichardson said:



LRCdancer88 said:


I know it is a small part of this convo, but ondansetron (aka Zofran) is not for just cancer associated nausea lol. I'm a pediatrician and I prescribe lots of my kiddos small courses of zofran when they're sick with a bug or when they have chronic GI issues. I just didn't want anyone to harp on this too much because it's really probably one of the most frequently prescribed meds imo.



It has been discussed that it is used for an upset stomach but unfotunatly when you look it up cancer drug pops up on many sites.



So that is what is going to be discussed. It is weird that the doctor wrote this out to Kirk to protect P's privacy. Why do that for meds for an upset stomach?


Chronic pain meds mess up ur system. Long term on These medications Can/will destroy stomach and esophagus. It is advised medication like omeprazole should be given along side. Many doctors fail to give medication like omeprazole straight away and only prescribe when the patient complains of stomach pain, blood in feces.
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Reply #839 posted 04/18/17 8:33am

purplepoppy

laurarichardson said:

purplepoppy said:


WRONG, don't have her book. You must have me mixed up with someone else. Un-Hinged!

No so many people on this board are reading it I thought you were as well.

It does not make me Un-Hinged. Save the drama for your mama and stop projecting.

Un-Hinged fantasy star in your own drama, fo sho ba-by. Ugh. hammer

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