Good catch, disch! Me too!

I tell ya! Posts like yours, disch — and five or six other like-minded members — are the only things that make this site worth my time

donnyenglish said:

I read the warrants and here are my quick thoughts:

1. There is an inconstitency about Kirk's statement that April 20 being the only time that he had gotten prescription drugs in his name before. There were other bottles found with Prince's name on them at Paisley.

2. Who were the other 3 people (6 total) that were there when police arrived?

3. No video surveillance at all at Paisley? That doesn't sound right.

4. There is a discrepancy in the warrants. One says that the only prescription was the April 20th for Oxy that was made out to Kirk to protect Prince's privacy, but the other warrants say that Schulenberg prescribed him 3 medications on April 20 (appears to be two for anxiety and one for nausea). As I said in #1, there are other warrants that say that several bottles with Kirk's name were found at Paisley.

5. Why would Schulenberg prescribe oxy to Prince on April 20 after it was clear that he had a pain pill addiction?

6. Most importantly, what were the inconstistent and contradictory statements that were made by the 3 people ((Kirk, Merone and Kornfeld) at the scene?

THANK YOU FOR READING THE WARRANTS AND COMMENTING APPROPRIATELY BASED ON WHAT WAS ACTUALLY WRITTEN!

You are a credit to mankind.

I am still reading them but the warrants are from several affiants/detectives and I am thinking that one knew of the other prescriptions as time went by that the other was not aware of in the preliminary investigation.

If memory serves, according to a former employee and a couple of celebration attendees, we have heard that P not only had video but he also had audio wired all over PP so that is very suspicious indeed.

Still reading.....to be continued.

But maybe the video and audio were for him to see/hear others - not for them to see him. There is no reason to think he didn't know how to control whether it was off or on.

laurarichardson said:

Flirt1 said:

From Mayte's book re the contents of his bag- Candy,vitamins,makeup,a Bible and a big wad of cash." Page162

What the hell does that have to do with 2016 and what Romeo said. Do you even realize how much stock you put into what pudding head has to say.

That book is already doing more harm than good. Now people are basing their opinion on what a bobble head has to say from 20 some odd years ago rather than what's in sworn affiavits written by official detectives in 2016. Smfh.

donnyenglish said:

3. No video surveillance at all at Paisley? That doesn't sound right.

To me, it does sound right. Take the interview Doc F did with his sound engineer last year, where the guy comes into the studio the first time and finds that the systems hadn't been maintained/updated for about 10 years. It was a complete mess. If Prince didn't even bother to do maintenance on his studio equipment - the stuff that determines what his most precious commodity (audio content) sounds like, why would we expect that he'd have been pumping money into putting security camera systems into PP? Same comment re the contents in the Vault. I would bet that much of the current security technology at PP is from the original build 30 years ago.

Edit: Just to clarify what I mean, PP has equipment that allows you to see/hear in various places, but that's all stuff that was put in when it was built because it has value from a recording/production standpoint. It's different than having security cameras installed and that are doing a constant record. I've never heard anything that he used any sort of system like that.

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disch said:

One line in the warrant stood out to me: "Your affiant learned that Prince did not have a regular doctor and that his most recent contact before Dr. Schulenberg was various doctors his managers would set up for him before a show so that Prince could receive a ”812 injection” to "feel better” before performing for a show."

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To me, if it's true that he had no regular doctor besides Dr S, that wouldn't align with Prince being treated for cancer, epilepsy, severe joint pain or some other serious, chronic condition.

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I dont believe a word from Kirk, Meron (and Judith.)

They gave inconsistent and contradictory statements to the police.

Red fucking flag, right there.

The real truth is not being told.

I also find it to be unusual that no further warrants were issued after

September 2016.

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

PennyPurple said:

I personally do not blame KJ for being a faithful enabler. We've all done that at some point in our lives. I know I have.

But that doesn't mean the law sees it the same way. Especially if someone dies as a direct consequence and you were supplying drugs illicitly.

Hope he has OJ Lawyer money squirreled away. He is going to need it if he's going to stay out of jail.

babynoz said:

tmo1965 said:

I agree that these folks may not be the most open and forthcoming, but if it was indeed one of them who shared the no-doctor info (and the warrant doesn't specify who told the police that), why would they lie to the police about Prince seeing a doctor for, say, cancer or epilepsy treatment?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

disch said:

One line in the warrant stood out to me: "Your affiant learned that Prince did not have a regular doctor and that his most recent contact before Dr. Schulenberg was various doctors his managers would set up for him before a show so that Prince could receive a ”812 injection” to "feel better” before performing for a show."

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To me, if it's true that he had no regular doctor besides Dr S, that wouldn't align with Prince being treated for cancer, epilepsy, severe joint pain or some other serious, chronic condition.

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I dont believe a word from Kirk, Meron (and Judith.)

They gave inconsistent and contradictory statements to the police.

Red fucking flag, right there.

The real truth is not being told.

I also find it to be unusual that no further warrants were issued after

September 2016.

laurarichardson said:

tmo1965 said:

Based on Mayte's 1st hand accounts of several times when Prince said that he didn't feel well, didn't sound well, had migraines, or had his stomach pumped because of mixing wine with aspirin, along with the facts that are in the official search warrants that there were pain pills in vitamin and OTC meds, strongly suggests that Prince had a Rx addiction problem. I am very heartbroken about this information, but facts are facts - Prince had a Rx drug problem for at least the past 2 decades. I do believe that there was physical pain involved. More than likely that's how he got started on the Rx.

--Absolutely no evidence he had a pain pill problem for two decades. Pudding head claims she never saw him use drugs at all so she has no credibility whatsoever. If she said she knew something that would be different.

Laura, the Holy River video details Prince's perspective about these same events. The song is clearly auto-biographical. You can choose to believe that the video is not, but it seems like a stretch.

This doesn't mean that he had a persistent addiction over 20 years, but the events Mayte described are completely consistent with what Prince portrayed in that video.

laurarichardson said:

paradise000 said:

According to Dutch media today Prince used the alias 'Peter Bravestrong' to fill prescriptions http://m.telegraaf.nl/art...met-pillen [Edited 4/17/17 8:05am]

No, he was using that name to travel with. He had Dr. S write the Rxs under Kirk's name.

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disch said:

Babynoz, I agree with what you wrote except this part about fentanyl.

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The accidental ruling on the ME report wasn't related to whether or not he knew he was taking fentanyl; it's that he didn't intend to die from whatever he was taking.

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In my view, the fact that he was struggling with an addiction is what led him to take black-market opioids, and unfortunately there's a big risk of something like fatal fentanyl contamination when you do that.

babynoz said:

*People implying that his addiction caused him to take fentanyl which the ME already ruled accidental and the authorities have clearly stated that they do not believe he knew what was in the mislabeled pill.

Maybe I didn't word it clearly but I was saying that the authorities, meaning the detectives don't believe Prince knew that fentanyl was in those pills. It was a two-part comment.

laurarichardson said:

can someone please explain why would prince need a pulse device and a blood pressure cuff.

Genesia said:

moonsister said:

babynoz said:

That book is already doing more harm than good. Now people are basing their opinion on what a bobble head has to say from 20 some odd years ago rather than what's in sworn affiavits written by official detectives in 2016. Smfh.

That's bullshit, you have a problem with Mayte so are spinning a false narrative. I read the book and it has not changed my opinion of what happened to Prince.

I am referring to flirt1's comment and other similar comments on this thread that have zero to do with your hurt feelings. Stay out of things that don't concern you and let flirt1 reply for himself.

The seizure thing is a ridiculous theory. Prince telling some yarn about having seizures when he was a very small child (which I'm not even sure he ascribed to epilepsy, althrough he may have) hardly translates to having uncontrolled epilepsy at a 57 year old.

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Laura, you're the first one to repeat we should all listen to what his associates have to say. Well, what associate has ever said epilepsy or seizures as an adult was an issue for him?

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Valium is widely used for a number of reasons; epileptic seizure control is the least of it (and others here have repeatedly stated that valium would not be the drug of choice nowadays for epilepsy control).

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The whole point is: We have no idea the veracity of the "hip pain" statement. The evidence is strong, however, that he was addicted to opioids and was struggling with that addiction and the suffereing that withdrawal was causing.

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Laura...no Dr has mentioned that he was having seizures again, YOU are the one who has been putting that out there. And there is no way for you to even know that. Why would anyone have to address the epilepsy issue, when you are the one who is saying that was what his problem was. NO it wasn't. He was addicted to drugs. Somehow, someway he got street drugs which were laced with fentanyl.... that IS what killed him. Hell even when you say he was having pain, you are projecting. Because in all accuality you don't know any more then the rest of us.

Exactly it has been discussed on this board numerous times especially since pudding head Mayte said he had migraines which can be the beginning of a seizure. Do you not recall that he had seizures as a child on the Tavis Smiley show. I will find the topic since you are incapable of using the search key. The previous conversation was concerning the Much Music interview were his hand is shaking while he is holding the mic and the Under The Cherry Moon interview were his eyes are rolling doing the whole interview. I was tying it back to the the search warrant information concerning Dr. S prescribing multiple anxiety drugs for hip pain which seems odd to me (my opinion since some of you do not understand what an opinion is) perhaps the diazpham was prescribed for epilepsy as it can be used a a seizure drug. It was actually found in his system. Also please stop saying that people on this board don't believe he was addicted I have never said he was dependent on this medication. I just do not believe he was out of control on this stuff for 20 years in fact we have yet to see any evidence of it outside of hearsay. These search warrants are the first real evidence and we still do not know how far this goes back from the search warrant. There are still key prices of information that are missing and things that do not make sense. If some of you want to ignore those things go right a head but you do not get to tell other people what to think. When I see people excusing KJ,( who even the police are not excusing ) and an incompetent Doctor to blame his sister I cannot take any of that seriously.

precioux said:

babynoz said:

paulludvig said:

PennyPurple said:

When and where did I imply that he was addicted to drugs for 20=30 years?

Reply #358 and# 373

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You need to go back to mind reading school, because you can't read minds. Also STOP trying to put words in my mouth. At NO time did I say that the man was on drugs for 20-30 years, so get your stuff straight.

Post #358 SAYS:

"Very True Precious. And I beleive the family knew all of this (of course they did) WTH would they let him continue to work there and be friends with him."

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Which was about KIRK and the family knowing that the dr. prescribed meds for Prince in Kirk's name. Of course the family knew, because the investigators have kept the family updated.

Post # 373 SAYS:

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"He carried that bag where ever he went, even as far back as when he and Mayte were married. It also had cash in it so he could pay for things or give money to someone for doing an errand for him"

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Which was in reply to someone asking about the bag and why it would be in his room.

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So stop making stuff up that I've said and stop trying to twist everything I say to suit YOUR purpose. That ain't right.

1Sasha said:

disch said:

The seizure thing is a ridiculous theory. Prince telling some yarn about having seizures when he was a very small child (which I'm not even sure he ascribed to epilepsy, althrough he may have) hardly translates to having uncontrolled epilepsy at a 57 year old.

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Laura, you're the first one to repeat we should all listen to what his associates have to say. Well, what associate has ever said epilepsy or seizures as an adult was an issue for him?

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Valium is widely used for a number of reasons; epileptic seizure control is the least of it (and others here have repeatedly stated that valium would not be the drug of choice nowadays for epilepsy control).

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The whole point is: We have no idea the veracity of the "hip pain" statement. The evidence is strong, however, that he was addicted to opioids and was struggling with that addiction and the suffereing that withdrawal was causing.



I'm confused. Are you implying that Prince was became addicted as a recreational user and not due to legitimate pain issues?

moonsister said:

babynoz said:

I am referring to flirt1's comment and other similar comments on this thread that have zero to do with your hurt feelings. Stay out of things that don't concern you and let flirt1 reply for himself.

More bullshit, sorry. Get flirt's number if you need a private conversation. [Edited 4/17/17 15:00pm]

Reported.

I was having a civil discussion with another member and it's against the rules to troll and bait me because you are nursing a grudge.

Bye.

laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

Laura...no Dr has mentioned that he was having seizures again, YOU are the one who has been putting that out there. And there is no way for you to even know that. Why would anyone have to address the epilepsy issue, when you are the one who is saying that was what his problem was. NO it wasn't. He was addicted to drugs. Somehow, someway he got street drugs which were laced with fentanyl.... that IS what killed him. Hell even when you say he was having pain, you are projecting. Because in all accuality you don't know any more then the rest of us.

Exactly it has been discussed on this board numerous times especially since pudding head Mayte said he had migraines which can be the beginning of a seizure. Do you not recall that he had seizures as a child on the Tavis Smiley show. I will find the topic since you are incapable of using the search key. The previous conversation was concerning the Much Music interview were his hand is shaking while he is holding the mic and the Under The Cherry Moon interview were his eyes are rolling doing the whole interview. I was tying it back to the the search warrant information concerning Dr. S prescribing multiple anxiety drugs for hip pain which seems odd to me (my opinion since some of you do not understand what an opinion is) perhaps the diazpham was prescribed for epilepsy as it can be used a a seizure drug. It was actually found in his system. Also please stop saying that people on this board don't believe he was addicted I have never said he was dependent on this medication. I just do not believe he was out of control on this stuff for 20 years in fact we have yet to see any evidence of it outside of hearsay. These search warrants are the first real evidence and we still do not know how far this goes back from the search warrant. There are still key prices of information that are missing and things that do not make sense. If some of you want to ignore those things go right a head but you do not get to tell other people what to think. When I see people excusing KJ,( who even the police are not excusing ) and an incompetent Doctor to blame his sister I cannot take any of that seriously.

Actually laura you don't need to search anything for me nor do I need you post links for me. Yes I do know that he had seizures as a child, Yes, I do know that he told his mom that the angel said he wouldn't have anymore.

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Those drugs that he was prescribed isn't only used for seizures. OMG. You are the one who was jumping on 'he was having seizures' bandwagon. Let's start dealing in some facts for once. OK