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Reply #360 posted 04/17/17 12:39pm

lastdecember

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disch said:

lastdecember, this has been discussed so very many times here.

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As for me, I have accepted that the fentanyl that killed him was contained in counterfeit black-market opioids that resembed other prescription opioids. That's what the search warrant alludes to, and that's in line with a national fentanyl crisis that has been well documented. (To summarize: drug dealers augment counterfeit opioids pills, and heroin, with fentanyl because it's a cheaper opioid -- but it's also very dangerous and can easily kill someone when it's manufactured and consumed in a non-regulated way, as happens with black-market drugs).

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So THERE WAS NO PRESCRIPTION FOR FENTANYL -- not in Prince's name, not in anyone else name. He had consumed what he most likely thought were percocets, vicodins, whatever.

lastdecember said:

He got it from someone, and If A doctor wrote that out under another name (KIRK) than why is he being given something that is prescribed to/for Cancer treatment, and effects of Chemo, pain from it etc... And if there was no Cancer why is he given it. Some say it is used for those having sleeping issues, but again you are prescribing to someone who is LOADED with Pain Medications and writing it out under another name, and you are giving him something that is 50 times more powerful than heroin and more addictive.

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But the thing is this is a pattern of "Pills" being in bottles labelled something else. Which is a huge sign of an addict that is trying to hide everything from everyone. For him to get Black Market Opioids he either purchased them himself, internet etc... or someone close got him pills, because for him to go to the black market might suggest Doctors CUTTING HIM off and him resorting to another source, and dealer sadly to say.


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Reply #361 posted 04/17/17 12:39pm

rogifan

sonshine said:

laytonian said:


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But we are only talking about April 14th, when KJ got the prescription.
This has nothing to do with bottles found at Paisley.
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Pills were found spilled in that travel bag, and the last time he used it was Atlanta.
Again, why a prescription if he already had them with him?
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I don't understand this part either. Why the need for illicit sources when he had the real deal already? It seems he had no shortage of meds so this part is confusing to me.

And so again how is releasing this information providing any clarity to anyone?
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Reply #362 posted 04/17/17 12:39pm

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Dibblekins said:

precioux said:

and another thing...if KJ KNEW the Rx was for oxycodone, WHY did he tell medical personnel @ the hospital in Moline (read the warrant) that it was "probably percocet?" Hence, TMZ reporting an overdose on PERCOCET. Who leaked this info? The medical team or KJ?! Being "percocet" came out of KJ's mouth, and it was in fact the WRONG name of the pill hmmm

Percocet was also present, amongst the pills found - I think it was the red pills, A92, found in the vitamin D bottle. sad

I do not believe it states that in the search warrent. Please see the info from one of the search warrants. Highlight some things people on this board need to take note of.

Your affiant, Detective Tyler Stahn, is a licensed peace officer with the State of Minnesota and has been employed by the Carver County Sheriff’s Office since July 2010. Detective Stahn is currently assigned to the Investigations Division. As part of Detective Stahn’s assignment, he has learned the following: On April 14, 2016, Your Affiant is aware that Prince Rogers Nelson DOB 06/07/1978 travelled to Atlanta, GA for a concert. Among those travelling with Prince during this trip was Kirk Anthony Johnson DOB 9/22/ 1964. Prince boarded a flight on April 15, 2016 to return to Minneapolis. While en route to Minneapolis, Prince suffered a medical emergency and the flight had to make an emergency landing in Moline, IL. The Doctor who treated Prince documented Prince as suffereing from an opiate overdose, however, Prince refused treatment at the hospital. Johnson told hospital staff Prince may have taken Percocet.

May have taken it so this is the reason this got out to the media.

Prince was released from the hospital later that morning. On April 21, 2016 at approximately 0945hrs, Carver County Sheriff Deputies were dispatched to a medical at Paisley Park, 7801 Audubon Road in the city of Chanhassen, where a person was found not breathing. At approximately 0948hrs, Deputies arrived on scene and located the victim identified as Prince. Prince was found unresponsive and was pronounced dead at the scene. Your Affiant learned that Prince recently had a history of going through withdrawals, which were believed to be the result of the abuse of prescription medication.

Notice the word recent. Maybe as recent as January or within the last year.

Through this investigation, Investigators discovered controlled substances in Prince’s residence. Autopsy results have shown that Prince died as the result of an accidental overdose via the use of an opiate drug known as Fentynal. A Prescription Monitoring Warrant was issued as a part of this investigation. The results of that search warrant have shown that Prince was not prescribed any of the controlled substances located in the residence. Your Affiant has learned through this investigation that Kirk Johnson was known to have contacted a Minnesota doctor, Dr. Schulenberg, to help Prince with regards to hip pain. Dr. Schulenberg met with Prince and prescribed him Clonidine, Hydroxyzine Pamoate and Diazepam.

Who writes these types of Rx for hip pain? Anxiety meds and high blood pressure and maybe seizure med.

On 4/20/2016, Johnson went to Walgreen’s in Minnetonka, located at 4950 Co Rd 101, and picked up Prince’s prescription medication. Johnson told Investigators this was the first time he had ever done something like that for Prince. During a search warrant executed at Paisley Park on 4/21/2016 (the day Prince was found deceased), a suitcase was found in Prince’s bedroom next to his bed. Among the items inside that suitcase were prescription pill bottles in the name of Johnson. A closer examination of those pill bottles revealed that not all the pills inside the containers were the pills listed on the prescription. One of the pill bottles, a Vitamin D bottle, was found to contain the controlled substance Ondanselron Hydrochloride. A second prescription bottle, said to contain Ondansetron, was found to contain the controlled substance Acetarninophen/oxycodone hydrochloride. The date those medications were prescribed to Johnson, according to the pill bottles, was 4/7/2016. The medications were prescribed by Dr. Schulenberg. Johnson told Investigators he was unaware Prince was addicted to pain medication.

Realize the doctor is suppose to be seeing for withdrawal has prescribed him a powerful pain killer that can make your stomach upset but is also giving him something for upset stomach.

and giving him drugs that do not interact well oxycodone.

To make sure oxycodone is safe for you, tell your doctor if you have:

  • any type of breathing problem or lung disease;

  • a history of head injury, brain tumor, or seizures;

  • a history of drug abuse, alcohol addiction, or mental illness;

  • urination problems;

  • liver or kidney disease;

  • Addison's disease or other adrenal gland disorder;r

  • problems with your gallbladder, pancreas, or thyroid; or

  • if you use a sedative like Valium (diazepam, alprazolam, lorazepam, Ativan, Klonopin, Restoril, Tranxene, Versed, Xanax, and others).

Your Affiant is aware that Johnson was Prince’s bodyguard and close personal friend. Your Affiant is aware that Johnson has been working with/for Prince since the 1980’s. Your Affiant is aware that Johnson was one of the few people who had unrestricted access to Paisley Park. Your Affiant is aware there was a sizable amount of narcotic medications located inside Paisley Park. The narcotic medications recovered inside Paisley Park were not located in just one area, but rather, were located in various pill containers throughout the residence. Many of those areas where the pills were located would COPIES TO: COURT 0 PROS.ATTY 0 PEACE OFFICER Application 1—3 be places Prince would frequent, such as his bedroom and wardrobe/laundry room. Your Affiant is aware that many of the narcotic medications were stored in containers that did not signify they were narcotic medications; for example, narcotic medications were located inside over-the-counter vitamin bottles. Based on the above described information, Your Affiant finds it reasonable that Johnson would have had knowledge of Prince’s abuse of prescription/narcotic medication.

I really think Kirk is just not that bright as to think the police would believe him and not follow up on his comments.

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Reply #363 posted 04/17/17 12:41pm

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lastdecember said:

disch said:

lastdecember, this has been discussed so very many times here.

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As for me, I have accepted that the fentanyl that killed him was contained in counterfeit black-market opioids that resembed other prescription opioids. That's what the search warrant alludes to, and that's in line with a national fentanyl crisis that has been well documented. (To summarize: drug dealers augment counterfeit opioids pills, and heroin, with fentanyl because it's a cheaper opioid -- but it's also very dangerous and can easily kill someone when it's manufactured and consumed in a non-regulated way, as happens with black-market drugs).

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So THERE WAS NO PRESCRIPTION FOR FENTANYL -- not in Prince's name, not in anyone else name. He had consumed what he most likely thought were percocets, vicodins, whatever.

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But the thing is this is a pattern of "Pills" being in bottles labelled something else. Which is a huge sign of an addict that is trying to hide everything from everyone. For him to get Black Market Opioids he either purchased them himself, internet etc... or someone close got him pills, because for him to go to the black market might suggest Doctors CUTTING HIM off and him resorting to another source, and dealer sadly to say.

But he did not get pain meds from Dr. S. So he had a source. The pills did not come from a pharmacy so why would they not be in different bottles.

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Reply #364 posted 04/17/17 12:43pm

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rogifan said:

Hmm...🤔 C9on88LXkAA-P9T?format=jpg&name=large

Judith didnt seem to hate journalism when she gave that interview so soon after his death, eh?

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Reply #365 posted 04/17/17 12:43pm

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sonshine said:
I don't understand this part either. Why the need for illicit sources when he had the real deal already? It seems he had no shortage of meds so this part is confusing to me.
Actually upon further consideration prince could have been ordering them himself online from china. And Kirk may not have even known this. Likely prince at some point panicked because he was running out of legit resources for his pills or he wasnt able to get as many as he wanted or as wuickly as he needed so he turned to other sources. Makes sense.

Which would make more sense. I dont really buy "these pills were mis labelled" there seems to be to many instances now of pills being in bottles labelled something else, which is a big sign of an addict hiding his addictions from everyone. And then doctors cut him off and he needs more, he turns to others and gets it from other sources which has been in many cases. The first HINT of all this might have been that flight, they may have known of issues but "him almost dieing" finally brought panic.


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Reply #366 posted 04/17/17 12:46pm

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lastdecember said:

And just a quick FACT for all that I learned from that addiction DR i forget his name. BUT plain and simple by taking more PAIN meds Prince was not helping his pain, he actually was constantly developing an immunity to these medications, so basically popping a few of these pills was doing nothing which is why you go back for more something more powerful and the pain grows.

There are some studies that for some people pain meds increase pain. Maybe the more he took the more pain he felt. I kind of think that people may be losting sight that he had pain and was in a cycle of taking more pills to relieve pain or increasing or being in pain when going in withdrawal.

I kind of wonder if he had a chance of beating this at all.

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Reply #367 posted 04/17/17 12:48pm

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laurarichardson said:

lastdecember said:

But the thing is this is a pattern of "Pills" being in bottles labelled something else. Which is a huge sign of an addict that is trying to hide everything from everyone. For him to get Black Market Opioids he either purchased them himself, internet etc... or someone close got him pills, because for him to go to the black market might suggest Doctors CUTTING HIM off and him resorting to another source, and dealer sadly to say.

But he did not get pain meds from Dr. S. So he had a source. The pills did not come from a pharmacy so why would they not be in different bottles.

He had pills that were not what was on the label, that is either someone hiding his addictions, or someone just giving him anything.


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Reply #368 posted 04/17/17 12:48pm

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sonshine said:

sonshine said:
I don't understand this part either. Why the need for illicit sources when he had the real deal already? It seems he had no shortage of meds so this part is confusing to me.
Actually upon further consideration prince could have been ordering them himself online from china. And Kirk may not have even known this. Likely prince at some point panicked because he was running out of legit resources for his pills or he wasnt able to get as many as he wanted or as wuickly as he needed so he turned to other sources. Makes sense.

Lord !!! Kirk damm name was on the bottle of pain meds that were prescribed by Dr. S. Who was Kirk's doctor. He was not running out of sources if he had good old Dr. S presribe him pain meds in fact he may have found a new source since he had only recently started to see him.

Stop making excuses for Kirk. The police are not so why are so-called fans.

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Reply #369 posted 04/17/17 12:50pm

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disch said:

It seems like the biggest question some people here want answered is the source of the fentanyl that killed him. How would the full autopsy report help us know that?

1Sasha said:

All of this screams "autopsy report." We would not even be discussing these things if we had that report. So let's settle in for the next 29 years and wait ...

I would like to know why he had to take the drugs found at PP and in his system. I know what has been rumored ... And I know the party line. But this use goes back a long time. It might not have been the same drug or drugs, but he was "assisted" along the way. The source of the Fentanyl is probably the source of all of the illicit drugs found. Who is going to shop dealers and/or enablers? One-stop shopping, if you will. Do I think KJ was involved in the process? Yes. Were others involved? I think so. There are too many inconsistencies for me, as well as too many coincidences. Plus, as far as Judith is concerned: your boyfriend ODs and you take a hike to LA? Please. Did anyone truly care for this man as a man, and not as a mealticket/icon? Could anyone say "no" to him?

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Reply #370 posted 04/17/17 12:50pm

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sonshine said:

I don't understand this part either. Why the need for illicit sources when he had the real deal already? It seems he had no shortage of meds so this part is confusing to me.

Because he OD on the plane and he knew he needed to stop.

He then tried cold turkey, and had severe withdrawal symptoms.

The doc most likely said you cant stop cold turkey it is a slow process.

I doubt Prince would say "no need to write a script, I have my own illegal

drugs stashed around PP."

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Reply #371 posted 04/17/17 12:51pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

rogifan said:

Hmm...🤔 C9on88LXkAA-P9T?format=jpg&name=large

Judith didnt seem to hate journalism when she gave that interview so soon after his death, eh?

nuts

Exactly she could have keep her mouth closed. How do we even know she was not leaking info when all of this started? People mag is stupid he had lots of secret girlfriends that is so they would not know what he was up to. He was not to high to stop chasing women.

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Reply #372 posted 04/17/17 12:51pm

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Laura, as others have noted, please stop making declarations of fact that you don't know.

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You -- and we -- don't know what level of physical pain (non-withdrawal-related) he was experiencing in the time around his death (if any). We have no statement from him or a doctor about this. We can all speculate, but saying that people are "losing sight that he had pain and was in a cycle of taking more pills to relieve pain or increasing or being in pain when going in withdrawal" is a theory of yours, but it's most definitely not a fact.

lastdecember said:

And just a quick FACT for all that I learned from that addiction DR i forget his name. BUT plain and simple by taking more PAIN meds Prince was not helping his pain, he actually was constantly developing an immunity to these medications, so basically popping a few of these pills was doing nothing which is why you go back for more something more powerful and the pain grows.

There are some studies that for some people pain meds increase pain. Maybe the more he took the more pain he felt. I kind of think that people may be losting sight that he had pain and was in a cycle of taking more pills to relieve pain or increasing or being in pain when going in withdrawal.

I kind of wonder if he had a chance of beating this at all.

[Edited 4/17/17 12:52pm]

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Reply #373 posted 04/17/17 12:52pm

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Bassette said:

DD55 said:

Yes the lyric sheet was interesting to me as well. I wonder why it was there.

A suitcase next to

his bed, containing those handwritten lyrics "U got the look". I find this very odd. Because he was in his own house, not staying with friends. (Maybe this is how he lived in Andre Cymone's house?)

He carried that bag where ever he went, even as far back as when he and Mayte were married. It also had cash in it, so he could pay for things or give money to someone for doing an errand for him.

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Reply #374 posted 04/17/17 12:52pm

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1Sasha said:

disch said:

It seems like the biggest question some people here want answered is the source of the fentanyl that killed him. How would the full autopsy report help us know that?

I would like to know why he had to take the drugs found at PP and in his system. I know what has been rumored ... And I know the party line. But this use goes back a long time. It might not have been the same drug or drugs, but he was "assisted" along the way. The source of the Fentanyl is probably the source of all of the illicit drugs found. Who is going to shop dealers and/or enablers? One-stop shopping, if you will. Do I think KJ was involved in the process? Yes. Were others involved? I think so. There are too many inconsistencies for me, as well as too many coincidences. Plus, as far as Judith is concerned: your boyfriend ODs and you take a hike to LA? Please. Did anyone truly care for this man as a man, and not as a mealticket/icon? Could anyone say "no" to him?

There is a missing piece to all of this that we do not know.

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Reply #375 posted 04/17/17 12:54pm

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laytonian said:

tmo1965 said:

Something that I want to point out - and I'm not saying that she necessarily had anything to do with P's death, but ... - We can see that Prince's appearance started to change in that he got thinner and seemed to age faster than expected about 2 years before he died. I remember seeing him in July 2014 at the Essence festival and he seemed and performed like himself. However, by the end of 2014, I noticed a change in his appearance. Many orgers have commented that they notice the same changes. Today we find out that he and Judith started a relationship around the time that his appearance started to decline. So I wonder if investigators are checking her out more closely? It seems that they are focusing on Kirk, but based on the info that we have so far, they have not tied Kirk to any of the illegal Rxs. Personally, I think that JH's email and phone records need to be looked into.

. Seriously? P was using these drugs long before 2014. . You don't remember Roger Friedman dropping it in 2009 that he was in severe pain and gulping pain pills by the handful? .

He may have been using pain pills before 2014, but I doubt that he was using fentanyl laced pills that long. I believe that they stopped making the Watson pain pills (percocet/norco) around 2013. So I'm thinking that he was orginally getting them from a doctor, but when they were discontinued, he had to get them from the black market. This probably worked fine until he got a bad batch that had fentanyl mixed in.

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Reply #376 posted 04/17/17 12:56pm

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PennyPurple said:

Bassette said:

A suitcase next to

his bed, containing those handwritten lyrics "U got the look". I find this very odd. Because he was in his own house, not staying with friends. (Maybe this is how he lived in Andre Cymone's house?)

He carried that bag where ever he went, even as far back as when he and Mayte were married. It also had cash in it, so he could pay for things or give money to someone for doing an errand for him.

It was the same bag from 20 years ago? Did Mayte reveal that in her tell all. Yet she had no idea what was in the bag as far a drugs but she knew money was in a bag.

The suitcase was for traveling. He was on tour and Romeo said up until the week he had off he packed all of Prince's bags and never saw drugs.

We do not know if these bags in his living quarters were taken with him prior to Romeo having off.

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Reply #377 posted 04/17/17 12:58pm

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laurarichardson said:

sonshine said:

sonshine said: Actually upon further consideration prince could have been ordering them himself online from china. And Kirk may not have even known this. Likely prince at some point panicked because he was running out of legit resources for his pills or he wasnt able to get as many as he wanted or as wuickly as he needed so he turned to other sources. Makes sense.

Lord !!! Kirk damm name was on the bottle of pain meds that were prescribed by Dr. S. Who was Kirk's doctor. He was not running out of sources if he had good old Dr. S presribe him pain meds in fact he may have found a new source since he had only recently started to see him.

Stop making excuses for Kirk. The police are not so why are so-called fans.

I dont think anyone is amking excuses for KIRK, but I think we are kidding ourselves in a really bad way that Prince did not have an issue here, pills were not rammed down his throat, and if they were then lets take them all to jail now. I blame ALOT of people around PRINCE because there is a huge issue of "hiding shit" and "Privacy" bullshit talk that is really troubling when we are talking something like addictions. So if all these people were covering it up feeling like "oh he can control it" or "we will help him" they all really dropped the ball in thinking they can manage an addiction. What some want to forget is that there was an addiction, that cannot be ignored, a lot of pills were being given out. Be it from a DR or multiple ones and in Kirks name whatever the case it is all enabling an addiction. There are countless celebs etc...because of their wealth that have become "hooked", Chevy Chase from a back surgery, Johnny Mathis years ago was addicted to pain killers, tons of others but in their cases and others "still alive" they did not have this damn stupid shrouding of ones privacy over someones damn life.


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Reply #378 posted 04/17/17 12:58pm

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



rogifan said:


Hmm...🤔 C9on88LXkAA-P9T?format=jpg&name=large

Judith didnt seem to hate journalism when she gave that interview so soon after his death, eh?



nuts


She claims they had a romantic relationship but do we believe her? It's impossible to know who or what to believe at this point and then you get documents like these search warrants that just cause more questions than answers.
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Reply #379 posted 04/17/17 1:00pm

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Genesia said:

precioux said:

*Diazepam* is NOT generic for vicodin, it is generic for Xanax. And Xanax IS used to help calm those going through withdrawls, it is also prescribed in conjunction with pain pills most of the time. Look it up


WRONG. The generic of Xanax is alprazolam. (I know - I have some at home.) As someone else noted, diazapam is the generic of Valium.

lol at you telling someone "look it up" when you're talking out of your own ass.

Sorry I don't have my *PDR* in hand- REGARDLESS, Diazapem is a "benzo" in the same EXACT family as Valium.

What DIAZAPAM it is NOT is a freaking OPIOD!


Maybe you need to go grab your bottle



...and take a seat




EDIT TO ADD: If you KNEW what you were talking about, you would also KNOW that Xanax is the equivalent to Valium already broken down in the body-hence valium comes in 5mg, 10 mg, etc.- while Xanax is dispensed in .25, .5 & 1 mg

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Reply #380 posted 04/17/17 1:00pm

1Sasha

If you believe certain posters here on the org, he was trying to reconcile with Andy Allo. You're right. Who knows? However, JH does fit the pattern: two years and a record, then on to the next one.

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Reply #381 posted 04/17/17 1:00pm

Bassette

I don't.

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Reply #382 posted 04/17/17 1:01pm

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tmo1965 said:

laytonian said:

tmo1965 said: . Seriously? P was using these drugs long before 2014. . You don't remember Roger Friedman dropping it in 2009 that he was in severe pain and gulping pain pills by the handful? .

He may have been using pain pills before 2014, but I doubt that he was using fentanyl laced pills that long. I believe that they stopped making the Watson pain pills (percocet/norco) around 2013. So I'm thinking that he was orginally getting them from a doctor, but when they were discontinued, he had to get them from the black market. This probably worked fine until he got a bad batch that had fentanyl mixed in.

Could be. I know one article said they stop making them because the DEA put a limit on how much pain reliever could be in them and that the last lot would have expired in Oct of 2015. Making me think he was taking some low dosage and the new batch was messing him up bad.

We know he told the Atlanta promoter he was going to go back to his doc because he was still feeling bad not sure how a bunch of anti-anxiety pills were going to do anything for stomach problems.

He also told Andrien he was not 100%. I think this new batch was causing his problems and I think those test on the 20th were going to tell him what was he was really taking was mishmash of drugs. Remember one of the drugs was UU380 no one said Percocet was in his system.

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Reply #383 posted 04/17/17 1:01pm

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1Sasha said:

disch said:

It seems like the biggest question some people here want answered is the source of the fentanyl that killed him. How would the full autopsy report help us know that?

I would like to know why he had to take the drugs found at PP and in his system. I know what has been rumored ... And I know the party line. But this use goes back a long time. It might not have been the same drug or drugs, but he was "assisted" along the way. The source of the Fentanyl is probably the source of all of the illicit drugs found. Who is going to shop dealers and/or enablers? One-stop shopping, if you will. Do I think KJ was involved in the process? Yes. Were others involved? I think so. There are too many inconsistencies for me, as well as too many coincidences. Plus, as far as Judith is concerned: your boyfriend ODs and you take a hike to LA? Please. Did anyone truly care for this man as a man, and not as a mealticket/icon? Could anyone say "no" to him?

Well until many fans can "FINALLY" say Prince had an addiction this really is going nowhere, yes there are many at fault and maybe in a criminal way, or at least a violation of their laws of being Doctors and not dealers. But Prince had an issue and that has to be said to move this on and it was being enabled.


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Reply #384 posted 04/17/17 1:02pm

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laurarichardson said:

lastdecember said:

And just a quick FACT for all that I learned from that addiction DR i forget his name. BUT plain and simple by taking more PAIN meds Prince was not helping his pain, he actually was constantly developing an immunity to these medications, so basically popping a few of these pills was doing nothing which is why you go back for more something more powerful and the pain grows.

There are some studies that for some people pain meds increase pain. Maybe the more he took the more pain he felt. I kind of think that people may be losting sight that he had pain and was in a cycle of taking more pills to relieve pain or increasing or being in pain when going in withdrawal.

I kind of wonder if he had a chance of beating this at all.

Lot's of people live with chronic pain 24/7, he could've beaten it, he should've been referred to a Pain Clinic.

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Reply #385 posted 04/17/17 1:03pm

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precioux said:

Genesia said:


WRONG. The generic of Xanax is alprazolam. (I know - I have some at home.) As someone else noted, diazapam is the generic of Valium.

lol at you telling someone "look it up" when you're talking out of your own ass.

Sorry I don't have my *PDR* in hand- REGARDLESS, Diazapem is a "benzo" in the same EXACT family as Valium.

What DIAZAPAM it is NOT is a freaking OPIOD!


Maybe you need to go grab your bottle



...and take a seat

You have serious fucking problems. Do not ask anyone to provide links anymore since you do not read them or listen to anyone.

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Reply #386 posted 04/17/17 1:05pm

Bassette

PennyPurple said:

laurarichardson said:

There are some studies that for some people pain meds increase pain. Maybe the more he took the more pain he felt. I kind of think that people may be losting sight that he had pain and was in a cycle of taking more pills to relieve pain or increasing or being in pain when going in withdrawal.

I kind of wonder if he had a chance of beating this at all.

Lot's of people live with chronic pain 24/7, he could've beaten it, he should've been referred to a Pain Clinic.

Something used him until he was used "up".

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Reply #387 posted 04/17/17 1:06pm

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laurarichardson said:

PennyPurple said:

He carried that bag where ever he went, even as far back as when he and Mayte were married. It also had cash in it, so he could pay for things or give money to someone for doing an errand for him.

It was the same bag from 20 years ago? Did Mayte reveal that in her tell all. Yet she had no idea what was in the bag as far a drugs but she knew money was in a bag.

The suitcase was for traveling. He was on tour and Romeo said up until the week he had off he packed all of Prince's bags and never saw drugs.

We do not know if these bags in his living quarters were taken with him prior to Romeo having off.

OMG I don't know if it was THE same bag. He always carried a bag with him, that had personal things and money in it.

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Of course Romeo didn't see drugs, because they were in Aleve bottles and vitamin bottles. Sheesh.

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Reply #388 posted 04/17/17 1:06pm

tmo1965

1Sasha said:

disch said:

It seems like the biggest question some people here want answered is the source of the fentanyl that killed him. How would the full autopsy report help us know that?

I would like to know why he had to take the drugs found at PP and in his system. I know what has been rumored ... And I know the party line. But this use goes back a long time. It might not have been the same drug or drugs, but he was "assisted" along the way. The source of the Fentanyl is probably the source of all of the illicit drugs found. Who is going to shop dealers and/or enablers? One-stop shopping, if you will. Do I think KJ was involved in the process? Yes. Were others involved? I think so. There are too many inconsistencies for me, as well as too many coincidences. Plus, as far as Judith is concerned: your boyfriend ODs and you take a hike to LA? Please. Did anyone truly care for this man as a man, and not as a mealticket/icon? Could anyone say "no" to him?

This is the sad truth. It seems that all of the relationships he had (friends and romances) were about Prince helping their careers or getting $$$ (M2). Even Mayte, who I believe truly loved Prince, started the relationship by wanting him to help her dancing career. No wonder he got hooked on pills.

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Reply #389 posted 04/17/17 1:07pm

disch

No point in debating this when Google exists!

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"Diazepam, first marketed as Valium, is a medication of the benzodiazepine family"

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https://www.drugs.com/diazepam.html

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diazepam

precioux said:

Genesia said:


WRONG. The generic of Xanax is alprazolam. (I know - I have some at home.) As someone else noted, diazapam is the generic of Valium.

lol at you telling someone "look it up" when you're talking out of your own ass.

Sorry I don't have my *PDR* in hand- REGARDLESS, Diazapem is a "benzo" in the same EXACT family as Valium.

What DIAZAPAM it is NOT is a freaking OPIOD!


Maybe you need to go grab your bottle



...and take a seat




EDIT TO ADD: If you KNEW what you were talking about, you would also KNOW that Xanax is the equivalent to Valium already broken down in the body-hence valium comes in 5mg, 10 mg, etc.- while Xanax is dispensed in .25, .5 & 1 mg

[Edited 4/17/17 13:03pm]

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