Genesia said:

precioux said:

The only thing that was disputed WAS the fact that you were blatantly calling *Diazapam* generic FOR VICODIN....that's it...quit backpedaling about something that had no mention in the FALSE statement you provided, PERIOD. Point being you need not throw out your suppositions as fact when they are just that, ignorant suppositions. When you put things out there as fact, people take you at your word.FACT is : Xanax and Va lium ARE the same, NOT Diazapam and Vicodin.

Here's an idea: why don't you BOTH STFU, since you're both wrong!

Xanax and Valium are not the same drug. Xanax is the trademarked name for alprazolam, Valium is the trademarked name for diazepam. Both are benzodiazepines, but they are not the same drug. For one thing, Xanax is a shorter-acting drug than Valium. (I know - I've taken both.)

No shit, SHERLOCK- read the fucking reply that stated that XANAX is what Valium is already broken down in the body, HENCE "shorter acting"...Xanax being prescribed in .25, .5 and 1 mg....Valium 1,5 10 mg.

DAMN GENESIA, HOW THICK IN THE HEAD ARE YOU?!


The exact thing you *tried* inserting your ignorant 2 cents about, is now what you need to do...."LOOK IT UP", and while you're at it , STFU as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

The only thing that was disputed WAS the fact that you were blatantly calling *Diazapam* generic FOR VICODIN....that's it...quit backpedaling about something that had no mention in the FALSE statement you provided, PERIOD. Point being you need not throw out your suppositions as fact when they are just that, ignorant suppositions. When you put things out there as fact, people take you at your word.FACT is : Xanax and Va lium ARE the same, NOT Diazapam and Vicodin.

--I always admit when I make mistake something you never do and you still have not addressed together epilepsy issue and why would any doctor prescribe 3 anti-anxiety meds for hip pain or withdrawals? It does not make any sense whatsoever.

Laura...no Dr has mentioned that he was having seizures again, YOU are the one who has been putting that out there. And there is no way for you to even know that. Why would anyone have to address the epilepsy issue, when you are the one who is saying that was what his problem was. NO it wasn't. He was addicted to drugs. Somehow, someway he got street drugs which were laced with fentanyl.... that IS what killed him. Hell even when you say he was having pain, you are projecting. Because in all accuality you don't know any more then the rest of us.

Genesia said:

laurarichardson said:

Genesia said: Maybe it is the drugs that are making you show your ass today. Why don't you spend some time mediating before I really tell you where you can go and how fast you can get there.

Log off, Laura. Everyone here hates your crotchety ass.

Hey! Not me. I think Laura has some alternative ideas (not always presented in the most diplomatic way, but still interesting).

nelcp777 said:

How did the flyer in the Purple Rain room get there? I thought Phaedra reached out to Kornfield. Perhaps Kornfield contact Kirk after the initial call from Phaedra. So, did Kornfield's son drop the flyer in the PR room?

Did Kirk have it on him the 20th and leave it. Maybe the "intervention" was not known to Prince. Could you imagine if Prince stumbled upon it the evening of the 20th?

I don't know. More questions than answers. Why were the warrants unsealed if the investigation is ongoing?

The flyer could be just a pdf printout, no big deal. However what is in the purple rain room. Is that a room he would frequent? Would P and Kirk sit down and discuss things in that room?

Dibblekins said:

Flirt1 said:

From Mayte's book re the contents of his bag- Candy,vitamins,makeup,a Bible and a big wad of cash." Page162

YES.

laurarichardson said:

precioux said:

The only thing that was disputed WAS the fact that you were blatantly calling *Diazapam* generic FOR VICODIN....that's it...quit backpedaling about something that had no mention in the FALSE statement you provided, PERIOD. Point being you need not throw out your suppositions as fact when they are just that, ignorant suppositions. When you put things out there as fact, people take you at your word.FACT is : Xanax and Va lium ARE the same, NOT Diazapam and Vicodin.

--I always admit when I make mistake something you never do and you still have not addressed together epilepsy issue and why would any doctor prescribe 3 anti-anxiety meds for hip pain or withdrawals? It does not make any sense whatsoever.

As I said, this was NOT part of what was disputed...you throwing up "seizures" (which I had already addressed) is your way of DEFLECTING as usual.That's it...end of story. Nice try,though.

PennyPurple said:

Dibblekins said:

YES.

Sometimes vitamins are just vitamins. But you think those bottles contained drugs, don't you. And you reply with a big "YES". Happy?

[Edited 4/17/17 14:05pm]

laytonian said:

mrwiggles said:

laurarichardson said:

Flirt1 said:

From Mayte's book re the contents of his bag- Candy,vitamins,makeup,a Bible and a big wad of cash." Page162

What the hell does that have to do with 2016 and what Romeo said. Do you even realize how much stock you put into what pudding head has to say.

Mayte says that there were vitamins in the bag. And Romeo said that there were vitamins and Aleve. The searches of PP revealed that the vitamin and Aleve bottles did not contain vitamins and Aleve, but rather pain pills.

paulludvig said:

PennyPurple said:

YES.

Sometimes vitamines are just vitamines. But you think those bottles contained drugs, don't you. And you reply with a big "YES". Happy?

Should I be? The YES was actually for what was in his bag, per Mayte in the book, that I've been trying to tell everyone about the bag. I don't have my book on me or I would've posted it. So maybe you need to stop trying to read minds, because you aren't very good at it.

donnyenglish said:

I read the warrants and here are my quick thoughts:

1. There is an inconstitency about Kirk's statement that April 20 being the only time that he had gotten prescription drugs in his name before. There were other bottles found with Prince's name on them at Paisley.

2. Who were the other 3 people (6 total) that were there when police arrived?

3. No video surveillance at all at Paisley? That doesn't sound right.

4. There is a discrepancy in the warrants. One says that the only prescription was the April 20th for Oxy that was made out to Kirk to protect Prince's privacy, but the other warrants say that Schulenberg prescribed him 3 medications on April 20 (appears to be two for anxiety and one for nausea). As I said in #1, there are other warrants that say that several bottles with Kirk's name were found at Paisley.

5. Why would Schulenberg prescribe oxy to Prince on April 20 after it was clear that he had a pain pill addiction?

6. Most importantly, what were the inconstistent and contradictory statements that were made by the 3 people ((Kirk, Merone and Kornfeld) at the scene?

#3. Didn't Dr S show up wiht test results?

Could the other two be EMS?

precioux said:

Genesia said:

Here's an idea: why don't you BOTH STFU, since you're both wrong!

Xanax and Valium are not the same drug. Xanax is the trademarked name for alprazolam, Valium is the trademarked name for diazepam. Both are benzodiazepines, but they are not the same drug. For one thing, Xanax is a shorter-acting drug than Valium. (I know - I've taken both.)

No shit, SHERLOCK- read the fucking reply that stated that XANAX is what Valium is already broken down in the body, HENCE "shorter acting"...Xanax being prescribed in .25, .5 and 1 mg....Valium 1,5 10 mg.

DAMN GENESIA, HOW THICK IN THE HEAD ARE YOU?!


The exact thing you *tried* inserting your ignorant 2 cents about, is now what you need to do...."LOOK IT UP", and while you're at it , STFU as well!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Not as thick as you, apparently - since you stated flat-out that Xanax and Valium are the same drug. They aren't, dumbass.

[Edited 4/17/17 14:07pm]

PennyPurple said:

paulludvig said:

Sometimes vitamins are just vitamins. But you think those bottles contained drugs, don't you. And you reply with a big "YES". Happy?

Should I be? The YES was actually for what was in his bag, per Mayte in the book, that I've been trying to tell everyone about the bag. I don't have my book on me or I would've posted it. So maybe you need to stop trying to read minds, because you aren't very good at it.

You seem happy with evidence that supports the strung out drug addict theory. Why do you think Prince took these meds?

Apparently no one thinks Prince was capable of turning off the security cameras in his own joint - for whatever reason.

paulludvig said:

PennyPurple said:

Should I be? The YES was actually for what was in his bag, per Mayte in the book, that I've been trying to tell everyone about the bag. I don't have my book on me or I would've posted it. So maybe you need to stop trying to read minds, because you aren't very good at it.

You seem happy with evidence that supports the strung out drug addict theory. Why do you think Prince took these meds?

WTH. You have no clue to as what I'm thinking so stop trying to put words in my mouth.

paulludvig said:

PennyPurple said:

Should I be? The YES was actually for what was in his bag, per Mayte in the book, that I've been trying to tell everyone about the bag. I don't have my book on me or I would've posted it. So maybe you need to stop trying to read minds, because you aren't very good at it.

You seem happy with evidence that supports the strung out drug addict theory. Why do you think Prince took these meds?

Nobody is happy - and nobody is using such horrible phrases as 'strung out drug addict'.

I think there is a lot more to it than meets the eye, still - and I've never been so desolate as to think about what befell Prince.

One line in the warrant stood out to me: "Your affiant learned that Prince did not have a regular doctor and that his most recent contact before Dr. Schulenberg was various doctors his managers would set up for him before a show so that Prince could receive a ”812 injection” to "feel better” before performing for a show."

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To me, if it's true that he had no regular doctor besides Dr S, that wouldn't align with Prince being treated for cancer, epilepsy, severe joint pain or some other serious, chronic condition.

[Edited 4/17/17 14:21pm]

Dibblekins said:

paulludvig said:

You seem happy with evidence that supports the strung out drug addict theory. Why do you think Prince took these meds?

Nobody is happy - and nobody is using such horrible phrases as 'strung out drug addict'.

I think there is a lot more to it than meets the eye, still - and I've never been so desolate as to think about what befell Prince.

That is implied when people suggest that he was addicted to drugs for 20-30 years and that he didn't take these drugs for legitimate medical reasons (physical pain).

Genesia said:

precioux said:

The only thing that was disputed WAS the fact that you were blatantly calling *Diazapam* generic FOR VICODIN....that's it...quit backpedaling about something that had no mention in the FALSE statement you provided, PERIOD. Point being you need not throw out your suppositions as fact when they are just that, ignorant suppositions. When you put things out there as fact, people take you at your word.FACT is : Xanax and Va lium ARE the same, NOT Diazapam and Vicodin.

Here's an idea: why don't you BOTH STFU, since you're both wrong!

Xanax and Valium are not the same drug. Xanax is the trademarked name for alprazolam, Valium is the trademarked name for diazepam. Both are benzodiazepines, but they are not the same drug. For one thing, Xanax is a shorter-acting drug than Valium. (I know - I've taken both.)

I was waiting for ya.


I don't even know why I'm surprised at how many irresponsible comments are being made already. Xanax and Valium are most certainly not the same thing Smh.

So much misinformation already.

*People mis-stating Prince's withdrawal situation.

*People speculating about what Tyka did or didn't know.

*Speculating and even adding contents to his bag when the warrant clearly states exactly what was in it.

*They already have Kirk strapped to the gurney just waiting for the lethal injection without benefit of a trial, when all we know so far is that he let the missing doctor S use his name to prescribe some percs.


Of course, if being a dumbass was a crime then Kirk should already be doing life.

*People implying that his addiction caused him to take fentanyl which the ME already ruled accidental and the authorities have clearly stated that they do not believe he knew what was in the mislabeled pill.


The warrants are availale to all to read and people are still stating their opinions as facts.

Read. The. Warrants, folks.

paulludvig said:

Dibblekins said:

Nobody is happy - and nobody is using such horrible phrases as 'strung out drug addict'.

I think there is a lot more to it than meets the eye, still - and I've never been so desolate as to think about what befell Prince.

That is implied when people suggest that he was addicted to drugs for 20-30 years and that he didn't take these drugs for legitimate medical reasons (physical pain).

When and where did I imply that he was addicted to drugs for 20=30 years?

paulludvig said:

i hate to say it and i hate to even think it but I think P wanted out for whatever reason. I really, really think that's the best possibility.

1Sasha said:

Dibblekins said:

You're not the only one saying it.

.
On FB, there are lots of comments about the drugs being planted...The fact that the place wasn't properly sealed as a crime scene plays into that theory of course.

.
In any case, you're right...The lack of video surveillance is very odd - I wonder if the sound system was also turned off. I remember hearing that Prince had every room wired for sound on the off-chance the creative urge took him (whilst on the toilet, for example). It seems strange that that too should be switched off.
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It also seems as if the pills had been stock-piled and I can't help but get suspicious at that. I personally stock-piled pills once in my lifetime - when I was in a very bad place. Could P have done all of this deliberately? Could it be suicide, made to look like an accident? (Didn't he say he would have the wherewithal to do that, if required)?
.
Given that KJ knew all of this would come out once the search warrants were opened, one has to wonder what he meant by 'everything being locked away in his personal vault, ne'er to be revealed'..?

You would be surprised how many people in that area think it was deliberate. That wasn't their first thought - they thought it had to be a terrible accident. But after about six weeks, the more they talked, the more they thought there were too many coincidences: no security, no cameras, no contact - being left alone, making amends over the past several months, etc.

babynoz said:

Genesia said:

Here's an idea: why don't you BOTH STFU, since you're both wrong!

Xanax and Valium are not the same drug. Xanax is the trademarked name for alprazolam, Valium is the trademarked name for diazepam. Both are benzodiazepines, but they are not the same drug. For one thing, Xanax is a shorter-acting drug than Valium. (I know - I've taken both.)

I was waiting for ya.


I don't even know why I'm surprised at how many irresponsible comments are being made already. Xanax and Valium are most certainly not the same thing Smh.

So much misinformation already.

*People mis-stating Prince's withdrawal situation.

*People speculating about what Tyka did or didn't know.

*Speculating and even adding contents to his bag when the warrant clearly states exactly what was in it.

*They already have Kirk strapped to the gurney just waiting for the lethal injection without benefit of a trial, when all we know so far is that he let the missing doctor S use his name to prescribe some percs.


Of course, if being a dumbass was a crime then Kirk should already be doing life.

*People implying that his addiction caused him to take fentanyl which the ME already ruled accidental and the authorities have clearly stated that they do not believe he knew what was in the mislabeled pill.


The warrants are availale to all to read and people are still stating their opinions as facts.

Read. The. Warrants, folks.

Babynoz, I agree with what you wrote except this part about fentanyl.

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The accidental ruling on the ME report wasn't related to whether or not he knew he was taking fentanyl; it's that he didn't intend to die from whatever he was taking.

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In my view, the fact that he was struggling with an addiction is what led him to take black-market opioids, and unfortunately there's a big risk of something like fatal fentanyl contamination when you do that.

babynoz said:

*People implying that his addiction caused him to take fentanyl which the ME already ruled accidental and the authorities have clearly stated that they do not believe he knew what was in the mislabeled pill.

PennyPurple said:

paulludvig said:

That is implied when people suggest that he was addicted to drugs for 20-30 years and that he didn't take these drugs for legitimate medical reasons (physical pain).

When and where did I imply that he was addicted to drugs for 20=30 years?

Reply #358 and# 373

[Edited 4/17/17 14:27pm]

Genesia said:

laurarichardson said:

Genesia said: Maybe it is the drugs that are making you show your ass today. Why don't you spend some time mediating before I really tell you where you can go and how fast you can get there.

Log off, Laura. Everyone here hates your crotchety ass.

laura is fine with me, I pretty much respect everyone here but I know some of this stuff is going to have us turning on each other, i've been there but I hope i'm past that.

I wonder why prince had a blood pressure cuff and a pulse device, was somebody playing doctor

paulludvig said:

Dibblekins said:

Nobody is happy - and nobody is using such horrible phrases as 'strung out drug addict'.

I think there is a lot more to it than meets the eye, still - and I've never been so desolate as to think about what befell Prince.

That is implied when people suggest that he was addicted to drugs for 20-30 years and that he didn't take these drugs for legitimate medical reasons (physical pain).

Based on Mayte's 1st hand accounts of several times when Prince said that he didn't feel well, didn't sound well, had migraines, or had his stomach pumped because of mixing wine with aspirin, along with the facts that are in the official search warrants that there were pain pills in vitamin and OTC meds, strongly suggests that Prince had a Rx addiction problem. I am very heartbroken about this information, but facts are facts - Prince had a Rx drug problem for at least the past 2 decades. I do believe that there was physical pain involved. More than likely that's how he got started on the Rx.