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Reply #90 posted 12/07/16 3:41pm

destinyc1

It bothers me if a person company stole music without permission.Meaning IF jayz did that.

[Edited 12/7/16 15:57pm]

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Reply #91 posted 12/07/16 3:42pm

morningsong

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Bremer Trust resigned as Special Administrator!

Whaaaaaaaaat?

eek




Huh?

Walk away for a minute and look what happens.

[Edited 12/7/16 15:46pm]

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Reply #92 posted 12/07/16 3:55pm

Mumio

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Not everything is a conspiracy.

rolleyes rolleyes

no no no!

shake



Thank you! lol

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Reply #93 posted 12/07/16 4:23pm

Vee0319

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



destinyc1 said:


I do castings for shows and work with talent in the entertainment biz.NO MUSIC THOUGH TOO ROUGH FOR ME LOL.And when my own kids work on projects its pages of contracts involved and it has to go to legal so this story bothers me.



Why does this story bother you?


It appears Tyka wants Fiduciary Trust but there is not a consensus with the heirs.


Tyka said she would accept Comerica also.


I wonder if there were arguments about opening PP too soon?


I wonder what publishing and recording deals the heirs didnt agree with?







Allowing Corey Simmons to have a DNA test probably pissed off the siblings.
My opinion is Bremer approving the man from New Zealand/Australia have DNA test was the straw that broke the camel's back. I know there are high school exchange programs. However most of those the students pay for. I have never read anywhere that Prince travelled abroad while in high school. I have read how broke he was as a teen. Additionally, Bremer has started this suit against JayZ. JayZ & Beyonce are worth over $1 billion, he definitely has money to fight.
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Reply #94 posted 12/07/16 4:24pm

Vee0319

Vee0319 said:[quote]

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



destinyc1 said:


I do castings for shows and work with talent in the entertainment biz.NO MUSIC THOUGH TOO ROUGH FOR ME LOL.And when my own kids work on projects its pages of contracts involved and it has to go to legal so this story bothers me.



Why does this story bother you?


It appears Tyka wants Fiduciary Trust but there is not a consensus with the heirs.


Tyka said she would accept Comerica also.


I wonder if there were arguments about opening PP too soon?


I wonder what publishing and recording deals the heirs didnt agree with?







Allowing Corey Simmons to have a DNA test probably pissed off the siblings.
My opinion is Bremer approving the man from New Zealand/Australia have DNA test was the straw that broke the camel's back. I know there are high school exchange programs. However most of those the students pay for. I have never read anywhere that Prince travelled abroad while in high school. I have read how broke he was as a teen. Additionally, Bremer has started this suit against JayZ. JayZ & Beyonce are worth over $1 billion, he definitely has money to fight.
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Reply #95 posted 12/07/16 4:27pm

cloveringold85

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So, it appears Tyka filed....

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In a petition filed Tuesday in Carver County District Court, Prince’s sister Tyka Nelson asked for either Fiduciary Trust Company International or Comerica Bank & Trust N.A. to replace Bremer Trust, which has served as special administrator since shortly after Prince’s death.

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I see Bremer was only a "temporary" fix:

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“As you know, Bremer Trust informed the Court months ago ... that Bremer Trust was not interested in continuing as Special Administrator after its current term expires,” the letter said. “That remains Bremer Trust’s position.”

.

Okay, well, this is interesting. Now I understand. biggrin

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What a fine mess this is!!!! disbelief

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #96 posted 12/07/16 4:29pm

Vee0319

Deleted this post because it belongs on another thread
[Edited 12/7/16 17:02pm]
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Reply #97 posted 12/07/16 4:32pm

morningsong

cloveringold85 said:

So, it appears Tyka filed....

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In a petition filed Tuesday in Carver County District Court, Prince’s sister Tyka Nelson asked for either Fiduciary Trust Company International or Comerica Bank & Trust N.A. to replace Bremer Trust, which has served as special administrator since shortly after Prince’s death.

.

I see Bremer was only a "temporary" fix:

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“As you know, Bremer Trust informed the Court months ago ... that Bremer Trust was not interested in continuing as Special Administrator after its current term expires,” the letter said. “That remains Bremer Trust’s position.”

.

Okay, well, this is interesting. Now I understand. biggrin

.

What a fine mess this is!!!! disbelief



Well maybe not. If their term is up and they don't want to continue it could be for any several reasons.

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Reply #98 posted 12/07/16 4:39pm

cloveringold85

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Personally, I think it's just too much on Prince's siblings with all these claims coming forward and DNA tests, and Prince's music, the estate, Paisley Park. Maybe they don't want Londell in their business? Who knows? I'm sure it's causing a lot of tension between Tyka and her siblings.

"With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016)
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Reply #99 posted 12/07/16 5:06pm

oliviacamron

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cloveringold85 said:

Personally, I think it's just too much on Prince's siblings with all these claims coming forward and DNA tests, and Prince's music, the estate, Paisley Park. Maybe they don't want Londell in their business? Who knows? I'm sure it's causing a lot of tension between Tyka and her siblings.




So Tyka dismissed them or they quit? I hope Bremer didn't get any threats from Jay Z's killers stirthepot
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Reply #100 posted 12/07/16 5:10pm

cloveringold85

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oliviacamron said:

cloveringold85 said:

Personally, I think it's just too much on Prince's siblings with all these claims coming forward and DNA tests, and Prince's music, the estate, Paisley Park. Maybe they don't want Londell in their business? Who knows? I'm sure it's causing a lot of tension between Tyka and her siblings.

So Tyka dismissed them or they quit? I hope Bremer didn't get any threats from Jay Z's killers stirthepot

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I think Bremer's term as manager's of P's estate was soon to expire, and now Tyka is trying to find a replacement. I also think there is more going on than that, with regard to P's music, PP and not to mention, all the drama with JayZ!! eek

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You crack me up! Killers! lol stirthepot

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ohgoon

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Reply #101 posted 12/07/16 5:19pm

destinyc1

oliviacamron said:

cloveringold85 said:

Personally, I think it's just too much on Prince's siblings with all these claims coming forward and DNA tests, and Prince's music, the estate, Paisley Park. Maybe they don't want Londell in their business? Who knows? I'm sure it's causing a lot of tension between Tyka and her siblings.

So Tyka dismissed them or they quit? I hope Bremer didn't get any threats from Jay Z's killers stirthepot

OMG!!! Someone in my office just said that lol They said jay doesn't play

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Reply #102 posted 12/07/16 5:25pm

PennyPurple

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oliviacamron said:

So Tyka dismissed them or they quit? I hope Bremer didn't get any threats from Jay Z's killers stirthepot

Told ya Kanye wasn't completely cray, cray. biggrin

I say Kanye went into the hospital for safety from Jay Z's killers. lol

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Reply #103 posted 12/07/16 5:39pm

Mumio

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Can we get back on topic discussing the estate here please? There are other threads for discussing murders, killing, etc....

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Reply #104 posted 12/07/16 5:47pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
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Mumio said:

Can we get back on topic discussing the estate here please? There are other threads for discussing murders, killing, etc....

I second that Motion.

nod nod

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Reply #105 posted 12/07/16 6:04pm

tmo1965

laurarichardson said:

nelcp777 said:

You made a very interesting point in regards to Pheadra. I am not sure how Tidal got the files. I do not know how streaming services work. Don't slaughter me, but could Tidal not just use Cds as source material and improve the audio sound and then stream it?

I find it hard to believe that ROC Nation would do a deal under the table, particularly that large. Their parent company would want their share of the money. That does not mean it did not happen.

Perhaps the equity share is the form of payment. However, why is Tidal not providing any documentation. To have equity share, there would have to be some form of a paper trail. The lack of Tidal not producing documents and answering the subpoena raises flags. I am not a lawyer, but I would think to win their case, they would produce as much documents to support their arguement.

Well we may find out something on the 8th. Tidal will have to bring some documentation to court.

Why would Tidal want to go to court, which costs more $$$, instead of providing proper documentation and resolving the matter out of court. This really makes Jay-Z and Tidal look bad.

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Reply #106 posted 12/07/16 6:08pm

tmo1965

oliviacamron said:

laurarichardson said:
--- ---- How could anyone from Tidal obtain the files without getting them from Prince or someone working for him? Like I said someone did something they were not suppose to do or Tidal had the files legitimately and just decided to not cough up the cash. Anyway you look at it thus could have been resolved if Tidal responded to the request for information.
Robbery and murder go hand in hand. Kayne West just said to jz I know you got killers , don't kill me, and he was serious stirthepot

I was trying not to go there, but this Tidal situation really makes me wonder if this has something to do with the way Prince died. Could someone from Jay-Z's camp have slipped the laced pills to Prince?

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Reply #107 posted 12/07/16 6:14pm

laurarichardso
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Vee0319 said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



destinyc1 said:


I do castings for shows and work with talent in the entertainment biz.NO MUSIC THOUGH TOO ROUGH FOR ME LOL.And when my own kids work on projects its pages of contracts involved and it has to go to legal so this story bothers me.



Why does this story bother you?


It appears Tyka wants Fiduciary Trust but there is not a consensus with the heirs.


Tyka said she would accept Comerica also.


I wonder if there were arguments about opening PP too soon?


I wonder what publishing and recording deals the heirs didnt agree with?







Allowing Corey Simmons to have a DNA test probably pissed off the siblings.
My opinion is Bremer approving the man from New Zealand/Australia have DNA test was the straw that broke the camel's back. I know there are high school exchange programs. However most of those the students pay for. I have never read anywhere that Prince travelled abroad while in high school. I have read how broke he was as a teen. Additionally, Bremer has started this suit against JayZ. JayZ & Beyonce are worth over $1 billion, he definitely has money to fight.
Travelled

-- Good points all they had to do was pull his school records or see if he had a passport to go New Zeland this stuff is embarrassing and stupid.
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Reply #108 posted 12/07/16 6:16pm

laurarichardso
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tmo1965 said:



laurarichardson said:


nelcp777 said:


You made a very interesting point in regards to Pheadra. I am not sure how Tidal got the files. I do not know how streaming services work. Don't slaughter me, but could Tidal not just use Cds as source material and improve the audio sound and then stream it?


I find it hard to believe that ROC Nation would do a deal under the table, particularly that large. Their parent company would want their share of the money. That does not mean it did not happen.


Perhaps the equity share is the form of payment. However, why is Tidal not providing any documentation. To have equity share, there would have to be some form of a paper trail. The lack of Tidal not producing documents and answering the subpoena raises flags. I am not a lawyer, but I would think to win their case, they would produce as much documents to support their arguement.



Well we may find out something on the 8th. Tidal will have to bring some documentation to court.

Why would Tidal want to go to court, which costs more $$$, instead of providing proper documentation and resolving the matter out of court. This really makes Jay-Z and Tidal look bad.


The probate case is on the 8th the case is moving foward.
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Reply #109 posted 12/07/16 6:24pm

tmo1965

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

destinyc1 said:

I do castings for shows and work with talent in the entertainment biz.NO MUSIC THOUGH TOO ROUGH FOR ME LOL.And when my own kids work on projects its pages of contracts involved and it has to go to legal so this story bothers me.

Why does this story bother you?

It appears Tyka wants Fiduciary Trust but there is not a consensus with the heirs.

Tyka said she would accept Comerica also.

I wonder if there were arguments about opening PP too soon?

I wonder what publishing and recording deals the heirs didnt agree with?

If Bremer wanted to out right sell off some of Prince's music, I would not go along with that either.

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Reply #110 posted 12/07/16 6:43pm

laurarichardso
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tmo1965 said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:




destinyc1 said:


I do castings for shows and work with talent in the entertainment biz.NO MUSIC THOUGH TOO ROUGH FOR ME LOL.And when my own kids work on projects its pages of contracts involved and it has to go to legal so this story bothers me.



Why does this story bother you?


It appears Tyka wants Fiduciary Trust but there is not a consensus with the heirs.


Tyka said she would accept Comerica also.


I wonder if there were arguments about opening PP too soon?


I wonder what publishing and recording deals the heirs didnt agree with?




If Bremer wanted to out right sell off some of Prince's music, I would not go along with that either.


It might have something to do with getting this probate over with and moving forward with getting out the music which is what she said she wants to do. I also think they made a mistake going back with Universal when administration was handled by NPG.
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Reply #111 posted 12/07/16 6:44pm

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tmo1965 said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:




destinyc1 said:


I do castings for shows and work with talent in the entertainment biz.NO MUSIC THOUGH TOO ROUGH FOR ME LOL.And when my own kids work on projects its pages of contracts involved and it has to go to legal so this story bothers me.



Why does this story bother you?


It appears Tyka wants Fiduciary Trust but there is not a consensus with the heirs.


Tyka said she would accept Comerica also.


I wonder if there were arguments about opening PP too soon?


I wonder what publishing and recording deals the heirs didnt agree with?




If Bremer wanted to out right sell off some of Prince's music, I would not go along with that either.


It might have something to do with getting this probate over with and moving forward with getting out the music which is what she said she wants to do. I also think they made a mistake going back with Universal when administration was handled by NPG.
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Reply #112 posted 12/07/16 6:57pm

luvsexy4all

tmo1965 said:

oliviacamron said:

laurarichardson said: Robbery and murder go hand in hand. Kayne West just said to jz I know you got killers , don't kill me, and he was serious stirthepot

I was trying not to go there, but this Tidal situation really makes me wonder if this has something to do with the way Prince died. Could someone from Jay-Z's camp have slipped the laced pills to Prince?

..under orders from WB...

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Reply #113 posted 12/07/16 7:06pm

Misslink88

Bremer was always a temporary solution.

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/606153a12f3041b8b76186c824538183/princes-estate-be-temporarily-managed-trust-company

God is my Sugar Daddy.
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Reply #114 posted 12/07/16 7:29pm

destinyc1

luvsexy4all said:

tmo1965 said:

I was trying not to go there, but this Tidal situation really makes me wonder if this has something to do with the way Prince died. Could someone from Jay-Z's camp have slipped the laced pills to Prince?

..under orders from WB...

LOL HOPE NOT

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Reply #115 posted 12/07/16 7:33pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
tAGame

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laurarichardson said:

tmo1965 said:

Why would Tidal want to go to court, which costs more $$$, instead of providing proper documentation and resolving the matter out of court. This really makes Jay-Z and Tidal look bad.

The probate case is on the 8th the case is moving foward.

The hearing will only resolve the Tidal claim against the Estate. Which was an extremely late claim and may be dismissed by the Judge. Nothing will be resolved with Tidal streaming until the Federal case is finalized.

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Reply #116 posted 12/07/16 9:21pm

wavesofbliss

eek it's only been 24 hrs since i checked this thread!!! shake

popcorn

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Reply #117 posted 12/08/16 1:28am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



laurarichardson said:


tmo1965 said:


Why would Tidal want to go to court, which costs more $$$, instead of providing proper documentation and resolving the matter out of court. This really makes Jay-Z and Tidal look bad.



The probate case is on the 8th the case is moving foward.

The hearing will only resolve the Tidal claim against the Estate. Which was an extremely late claim and may be dismissed by the Judge. Nothing will be resolved with Tidal streaming until the Federal case is finalized.


-/ I know this Tidal making a claim to get this remix project and one other project. There claim could be dismissed but I would think they would bring some proof that they owed these projects.
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Reply #118 posted 12/08/16 3:24am

lorenzolee

morningsong said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:


Bremer Trust resigned as Special Administrator!


Whaaaaat?


eek






Huh?

Walk away for a minute and look what happens.

[Edited 12/7/16 15:46pm]


I guess they weren't handling the estate to Tykas liking.
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Reply #119 posted 12/08/16 4:10am

1Sasha

I had heard there were two factions in the non-excluded heirs. Do you think if they were getting along that they would each have their own lawyers? They would have functioned as a unit. They were disagreeing about money from the beginning - who should get what. They cannot agree on a replacement for Bremer. And Prince is paying for all of this.

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