wavesofbliss said:

computerblue83 said:

The only thing I found interesting about the divorce filings is that it says that Manuela is 38 not 40 like she claims. I thought when you lied about your age you are suppose to make yourself younger not older.

actually, she did make herself younger. she lied about her age on the divorce papers- she is actually 40 this yr. like she said in her 40 things about me.

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this tidal thing is gonna be good.

You don't think it's just a typo. It bugged me for a minute but I got over it since I have no clue how it's supposed to be fixed and I don't know if it's all that important in the scheme of things.



The whole Tidal thing, I just got me a big giant bag of popcorn.

That would be pretty bold/ stupid for Tidal to profit with out a contract. You would imagine they would have tied up the contract and legal stuff, before adding content.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

-/Fedeal hearing. Don't you think it is strange that the federal lawsuit has a court order for content to come down but it is still up on the sight. Something funny is going on with both sides of this case.

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Then Tidal should have documents showing payment of cash to P.

What hearing is Friday? In the Federal Court case?

-/Fedeal hearing. Don't you think it is strange that the federal lawsuit has a court order for content to come down but it is still up on the sight. Something funny is going on with both sides of this case.

yep! something very shady. did jz try to pull a fast one? did p bait and switch? i know those concert promoters didn't mind a handshake deal but noway tidal would. but i have to wonder where they got the files if p didn't have some type of arrangement in place. --

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Then Tidal should have documents showing payment of cash to P.

What hearing is Friday? In the Federal Court case?

-/Fedeal hearing. Don't you think it is strange that the federal lawsuit has a court order for content to come down but it is still up on the sight. Something funny is going on with both sides of this case.

They asked for an Order for content to come down in their lawsuit. No Order has been issued by the Federal Court yet. This will be addressed most likely at the hearing that is coming up.

Rev said:

That would be pretty bold/ stupid for Tidal to profit with out a contract. You would imagine they would have tied up the contract and legal stuff, before adding content.

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I would think that if they don't have a contract in-writing, then they can't be streaming Prince's music.

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Oh Lord, this is getting messy!

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: -/Fedeal hearing. Don't you think it is strange that the federal lawsuit has a court order for content to come down but it is still up on the sight. Something funny is going on with both sides of this case.

They asked for an Order for content to come down in their lawsuit. No Order has been issued by the Federal Court yet. This will be addressed most likely at the hearing that is coming up.

Well I was wrong the hearing is in the probate court on Dec 8th per the article below. More bombshells since now it looks like JayZ tried to step him and manage the music instead of Londell.

I wonder if these two have beef with each other and if this is what this is really all about. I read that the federal suit had a request for the content to come down made a typo. I do not believe that Jay Z received files from Prince without money exchanging hands. I hope I am wrong and this was not some off the books cash transaction because that is the only reason I can see Tidal not responding to Breamer. See the article below. We need popcorn for this one.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/documents-jay-zs-company-wanted-to-manage-princes-music/2016/12/06/f03516c6-bbf9-11e6-ae79-bec72d34f8c9_story.html?utm_term=.f47a7e5c937d

http://bigstory.ap.org/ar...nces-music

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Bremer is asking for accounting records and Roc Nation/JayZ hasn't responded.

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Prince's estate says they are owed royalties!

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Tidal was streaming Prince's music back in June and they were not given permission to do so!

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[Edited 12/6/16 16:17pm]

wavesofbliss said:

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said: -/Fedeal hearing. Don't you think it is strange that the federal lawsuit has a court order for content to come down but it is still up on the sight. Something funny is going on with both sides of this case.

yep! something very shady. did jz try to pull a fast one? did p bait and switch? i know those concert promoters didn't mind a handshake deal but noway tidal would. but i have to wonder where they got the files if p didn't have some type of arrangement in place. --

No doubt they got the files from Prince and I don't doubt Jay-Z paid something. It could be equity since the agreement Tidal is referencing in their suits is a equity term agreement. Like an agreement to agree to work together for some stake in the businees maybe? Maybe the barter system. You do something for me and I will do something for you. Some sort of exchange would have to take place to say they had a contract.

Tidal attorney's think they have some viable agreement. I am not sure why they are not turning over the docs as the court will make them do so anyway.

I wonder if Pheadra request to seal finacial docs and her getting an attorney has anything to do with this as she is the manager of the LLC?

laurarichardson said:

You know Laura that Phaedra thing is interesting. Do the docs state specifically when and how a Tidal obtained Prince's catalog? If not, what if Prince's music files were obtained after 4/21?! Is it possible that someone from NPG gave Tidal the files on the downlow?

Vee0319 said:

laurarichardson said:

No doubt they got the files from Prince and I don't doubt Jay-Z paid something. It could be equity since the agreement Tidal is referencing in their suits is a equity term agreement. Like an agreement to agree to work together for some stake in the businees maybe? Maybe the barter system. You do something for me and I will do something for you. Some sort of exchange would have to take place to say they had a contract.

Tidal attorney's think they have some viable agreement. I am not sure why they are not turning over the docs as the court will make them do so anyway.

I wonder if Pheadra request to seal finacial docs and her getting an attorney has anything to do with this as she is the manager of the LLC?

You know Laura that Phaedra thing is interesting. Do the docs state specifically when and how a Tidal obtained Prince's catalog? If not, what if Prince's music files were obtained after 4/21?! Is it possible that someone from NPG gave Tidal the files on the downlow?

The downlow appears to be what Breamer is saying. I mean they are saying they had no permission to have the music on the site. Well how did they get the music? Was someone at NPG sending files after P died and his that the reason Phadra got a lawyer?

We keep hearing associates going on about Theives in the Temple. I have had a nagging suscipion that Prince may have had bad people around him in the last year of his life. He would not be the first person with money to be taken advantage of due to illness.

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nelcp777 said:

The only comment I have with regard to Dixon and everyone else that have made bogus claims without legitimate documentation is they might as well stop. Prince loved Minnesota and was extremely loyal to his home state. It is blatantly clear that Minnesota feels the same for Prince. They love him, they are loyal to him and they have his back even in death. They are not going to allow him to be exploited. They have access to every piece of paper filed by Prince and his family in the state they have access to every document at all of Prince's properties. After over 7 months the heirs still remain exactly who Tyka said they are. I just wish these
people would stop with their greedy nature, just because he did not leave a will.
They are fighting a losing battle against the estate of one of the most highly regarded Minnesota son's.

laurarichardson said:

Ooh boy, this makes me sick to my stomach, it has taken most of us so long to get use to him not being with us...and to think that he had these people around him, but as they say what happens in the dark shall come to light. I don't think this case will take long, if JayZ cannot produce documentation signed by our beloved. Whoever sent the files to Tidal will be outed very soon.

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PRINCE_ESTATE_JAY_Z?SITE=AP&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

The Associated Press is reporting on the Jay Z/Tidal litigation.

laurarichardson said:

Vee0319 said:

laurarichardson said: You know Laura that Phaedra thing is interesting. Do the docs state specifically when and how a Tidal obtained Prince's catalog? If not, what if Prince's music files were obtained after 4/21?! Is it possible that someone from NPG gave Tidal the files on the downlow?

The downlow appears to be what Breamer is saying. I mean they are saying they had no permission to have the music on the site. Well how did they get the music? Was someone at NPG sending files after P died and his that the reason Phadra got a lawyer?

We keep hearing associates going on about Theives in the Temple. I have had a nagging suscipion that Prince may have had bad people around him in the last year of his life. He would not be the first person with money to be taken advantage of due to illness.

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These recordings were most likely in The Vault for which only P had access.

Maybe P sent the recordings to Tidal to be used under certain specific circumstances.

I dont believe any associate of P's would send his catalogue to Tidal after his death under absolute certain scrutiny by the Court.

JayZ doesnt have any documentation, not even emails as to what the agreement was between them.

If he does, he has not not provided them to Bremer.

Also, Bremer cannot find that Roc Nation paid any money to P, and Roc Nation has failed to provide documentation of payment after Bremer requested documentation.

Roc Nation has failed to respond to a subpoena issued by Bremer for documentation.

So JayZ is outta luck.

The smutty gossip out of the filing today is that JayZ wanted to be in charge of P's music and Bremer chose Londell instead.

Shots fired.

cloveringold85 said:

Let's get ready to rumble!!

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http://www.tmz.com/2016/1...l-lawsuit/

TMZ, taking digs at Prince every chance they get. I wonder why?

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

---- Dave the engineer on the Dr.Funk podcast said that when he came to work for Prince he was told by Prince that he belived someone was damaging his equiptment on purpose. Once Dave started examining the equiptment he found it to be true. We know from Alan Leeds that music was stolen from Paisley Park and put out on the bootleg market. We know from the Ebony article that Prince himself said people stole stuff from him. We also know that Prince mentioned people stealing things on the George Lopez show. We also know about Patrick Cousins stealing a church and pretending to be Prince's manager. People steal as locks are made for thieves. It is not out of the realm of possibility that someone gave those files to Tidal after Prince died and someone got paid for those files. It could also be that Tidal had the files from Prince with a certain time to put them on the site and then just decided not to send the upfront money as well as the royalties which is still stealing.

MMJas said:

// This is more of a dig at Jay-Z then Prince. If Jay did something foul after Prince died it makes Jay look bad not Prince. It is a PR nightmare for Tidal/Jay-z.

Vee0319 said:

Or Jz stole the file on 4/20

oliviacamron said:

--- ---- How could anyone from Tidal obtain the files without getting them from Prince or someone working for him? Like I said someone did something they were not suppose to do or Tidal had the files legitimately and just decided to not cough up the cash. Anyway you look at it thus could have been resolved if Tidal responded to the request for information.

Documents for december 5th and 6th are very interesting.

Mr Dixon still doesn't stop.

ROC Nation issue is visible.

Vee0319 said:

nelcp777 said:

Dixon has taken his case to the Court of Appeals. Comments?

The only comment I have with regard to Dixon and everyone else that have made bogus claims without legitimate documentation is they might as well stop. Prince loved Minnesota and was extremely loyal to his home state. It is blatantly clear that Minnesota feels the same for Prince. They love him, they are loyal to him and they have his back even in death. They are not going to allow him to be exploited. They have access to every piece of paper filed by Prince and his family in the state they have access to every document at all of Prince's properties. After over 7 months the heirs still remain exactly who Tyka said they are. I just wish these people would stop with their greedy nature, just because he did not leave a will. They are fighting a losing battle against the estate of one of the most highly regarded Minnesota son's.

I am in total agreement. It is nice to see that Minnesotta is taking care of Prince and his legacy. The residents of Chanhansen the same.

The frivolous stuff just needs to stop. Tyka and the siblings could sue, but they will spend more money and win nothing. The frivolous claims just drain more resources and the Estate. Greed and wanting 15 minutes of fame. Sad.

Thanks for commmenting and your thoughts.

laurarichardson said:

wavesofbliss said:

yep! something very shady. did jz try to pull a fast one? did p bait and switch? i know those concert promoters didn't mind a handshake deal but noway tidal would. but i have to wonder where they got the files if p didn't have some type of arrangement in place. --

No doubt they got the files from Prince and I don't doubt Jay-Z paid something. It could be equity since the agreement Tidal is referencing in their suits is a equity term agreement. Like an agreement to agree to work together for some stake in the businees maybe? Maybe the barter system. You do something for me and I will do something for you. Some sort of exchange would have to take place to say they had a contract.

Tidal attorney's think they have some viable agreement. I am not sure why they are not turning over the docs as the court will make them do so anyway.

I wonder if Pheadra request to seal finacial docs and her getting an attorney has anything to do with this as she is the manager of the LLC?

You made a very interesting point in regards to Pheadra. I am not sure how Tidal got the files. I do not know how streaming services work. Don't slaughter me, but could Tidal not just use Cds as source material and improve the audio sound and then stream it?

I find it hard to believe that ROC Nation would do a deal under the table, particularly that large. Their parent company would want their share of the money. That does not mean it did not happen.

Perhaps the equity share is the form of payment. However, why is Tidal not providing any documentation. To have equity share, there would have to be some form of a paper trail. The lack of Tidal not producing documents and answering the subpoena raises flags. I am not a lawyer, but I would think to win their case, they would produce as much documents to support their arguement.

nelcp777 said:

Well we may find out something on the 8th. Tidal will have to bring some documentation to court.

laurarichardson said:

Robbery and murder go hand in hand. Kayne West just said to jz I know you got killers , don't kill me, and he was serious

From what I understand in the papers from ROC, they are suggesting that they have control over Prince's catalog. I'm gonna have to takes sides with Tyka and I'm sure Prince would also. My feelings of what's right will not be swayed by the fact that I subscribe to Tidal for my Prince music. by the way, can anyone tell me if you can plug a tape recorder into and Android?

Vee0319 said:

nelcp777 said:

Dixon has taken his case to the Court of Appeals. Comments?

The only comment I have with regard to Dixon and everyone else that have made bogus claims without legitimate documentation is they might as well stop. Prince loved Minnesota and was extremely loyal to his home state. It is blatantly clear that Minnesota feels the same for Prince. They love him, they are loyal to him and they have his back even in death. They are not going to allow him to be exploited. They have access to every piece of paper filed by Prince and his family in the state they have access to every document at all of Prince's properties. After over 7 months the heirs still remain exactly who Tyka said they are. I just wish these people would stop with their greedy nature, just because he did not leave a will. They are fighting a losing battle against the estate of one of the most highly regarded Minnesota son's.

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We really don't know if Prince had a Will or not. He could have had some documentation that expressed his wishes, and it very well could have been destroyed. He could have been in the process of drafting one up on his own, without an attorney. I think there is much more to this story than any of us know, imo.

MMJas said:

cloveringold85 said:

Let's get ready to rumble!!

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http://www.tmz.com/2016/1...l-lawsuit/

TMZ, taking digs at Prince every chance they get. I wonder why?

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It's not just TMZ, other media outlets are doing it as well.