4Ever is clearly designed for general audiences' holiday consumption, with "Levels" being the proverbial bone thrown for fans/collectors.

PR is a far more intriguing project. Hopefully there will be an accompanying vinyl release.

namepeace said:

4Ever is clearly designed for general audiences' holiday consumption, with "Levels" being the proverbial bone thrown for fans/collectors.

PR is a far more intriguing project. Hopefully there will be an accompanying vinyl release.

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I'd still say the best introduction for a new fan is The Very Best of Prince, if they like that then they can start buying the albums.

I'd be a lot more forgiving of this project if the tracklist had been carefully chosen and not just slapped together.

FOR EXAMPLE:

• No Sometimes it Snows in April, really? When it was played everywhere when he died?
• Gotta Stop Messin About is on there but an oft-covered classic How Come U Don't Call me Anymore isn't? I actually love GSMA but it's not a song for a best of.
• No Erotic City? The 12" version of that is actually kind of hard to find on CD and for many fans it's one of the most critical Prince songs. That would have been a good song to include.

And that play order is all over the place. Neither chronological nor in some kind of playlisted order, just some muddy point inbetween. Poor show.

Not to mention that it ends in 1993 but the artwork is from at least a decade later? How does that even make sense? Sure Prince approved it , course he did. He also approved the 3121 film and every other of a million projects until he didn't. I'm not laying the blame for this one on him.

As for the rights issues with everything post 1993. Ok fair enough, it's messy but you know what? You're a record company, it's your job to negotiate those rights, talk to the family already.

So yeah, I'm gonna buy this compilation, i'm gonna listen to this compilation and you know what, i'm going to be critical of this compilation.

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dazedawhile said:

has anyone asked this question: are these 2 albums to be remastered? if so, this alone should make the purchase a benefit, regardless of content.

Should be obviously by now

I trollishly (but not because I was kidding) predicted that this is exactly what would happen... give us a multi-CD hits collection with one new song. Totally pathetic. I hope Moonbeam Levels gets bootlegged to Kingdom Come.

udo said:

NouveauDance said:

Did you seriously think there was ever a chance of that happening. Of course it was going to be the Hits/B-Sides version.

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Why then is there no mention of 'duet'?

The Prince version has always been credited to just "Prince" on the front covers of the single releases and "Featuring Rosie Gains with The New Power Generation" in smaller text elsewhere.

djThunderfunk said:

eyewishuheaven said:

I'm still holding out hope for some of those, because I have trouble believing When Doves Cry is gonna be the full album version.

Somebody should run the numbers and see if the tracklistings of each disc add up to 80 minutes...

I don't care about When Doves Cry, we already got the edit for that one on THTBS/TVBOP/Ultimate.
The one's I mention haven't been released on a commercial CD as of yet.

I believe I have the edit version of "Girls And Boys" as a bonus track on the Peach CD single. Some other edit versions like ones of "Batdance" and "Glam Slam" were also released on CD as singles, but not on any album, you're right about that.

djThunderfunk said:

eyewishuheaven said:

I'm still holding out hope for some of those, because I have trouble believing When Doves Cry is gonna be the full album version.

Somebody should run the numbers and see if the tracklistings of each disc add up to 80 minutes...

I don't care about When Doves Cry, we already got the edit for that one on THTBS/TVBOP/Ultimate.
The one's I mention haven't been released on a commercial CD as of yet.

Apologies, I think I was unclear:

I'm just saying it's likely that they'll include the single edit of WDC, but the tracklisting doesn't explicitly say that it's the single edit. So with that in mind, this set may have the single edits of LRC, LGC, PR, etc.

Again, it's a stretch, but not without hope...

sexton said:

djThunderfunk said:

I don't care about When Doves Cry, we already got the edit for that one on THTBS/TVBOP/Ultimate.
The one's I mention haven't been released on a commercial CD as of yet.

I believe I have the edit version of "Girls And Boys" as a bonus track on the Peach CD single. Some other edit versions like ones of "Batdance" and "Glam Slam" were also released on CD as singles, but not on any album, you're right about that.

Guess I need to seek those singles out.

paisleypark4 said:

cloveringold85 said:

DiamondsnPearls44 said:

shows how much they really knew about him

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Or even "cared"

YUP!!! Why would they go against his wishes. Such comPLETE posthumous disrespect!

TheEnglishGent said:

ThePartyman said:

Updated version of Sexy MF?? I don't think I was aware of such a thing.

That said, those Indigo nights were pretty amazing so my mind probably doesn't remember everything. I may well have been there and heard it and not processed it correctly.

Was it a re-recording or a remix? Clean or naughty? I freaking love that song.

Re-recording and clean. Had a sample of "Everybody dance now" from C&C Music Factory's, Gonna Make You Sweat, in place of "You sexy mother fucker".

[Edited 10/24/16 6:29am]

Interesting. As a former DJ, I can't beleive it never occured to me to mash those two up!

BanishedBrian said:

I trollishly (but not because I was kidding) predicted that this is exactly what would happen... give us a multi-CD hits collection with one new song. Totally pathetic. I hope Moonbeam Levels gets bootlegged to Kingdom Come.

Yes it's pathetic, I would buy it if there was at least 4-5 unreleased songs on it but one? I'll pass.

BartVanHemelen said:

WBR apparently cannot use TGE tracks.

Where exactly have you heard this from? Sounds like total bull. TGE was a Warner Bros release, after all.

djThunderfunk said:

sexton said:

I believe I have the edit version of "Girls And Boys" as a bonus track on the Peach CD single. Some other edit versions like ones of "Batdance" and "Glam Slam" were also released on CD as singles, but not on any album, you're right about that.

Guess I need to seek those singles out.

Alphabet Street edit is available on this promo.

https://www.discogs.com/P...se/1944381

I bought it at for about 20 quid a few years back and I remember thinking how strange it was that I was willing to shell out money in order to hear less of a song.

I'd love to hear 1999 full length without a fade out or segue into Little Red Corvette but I suspect you'd need to go back to the mastertapes for that one.

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jjam said:

BartVanHemelen said:

WBR apparently cannot use TGE tracks.

Where exactly have you heard this from? Sounds like total bull. TGE was a Warner Bros release, after all.

i think people kind of come to this conclusion because warners has never issued any
material from the gold experience after it's initial run.

you'd think they stick TMBGITW on the new comp, wouldn't you? they even named
it in the press release

so neither this song or any other song from it being included in previous and now on
this release, would lead to the logical conclusion that they cannot use those tracks.

so not total bull, just the most logical explanation given the facts we have.

djThunderfunk said:

sexton said:

I believe I have the edit version of "Girls And Boys" as a bonus track on the Peach CD single. Some other edit versions like ones of "Batdance" and "Glam Slam" were also released on CD as singles, but not on any album, you're right about that.

Guess I need to seek those singles out.

Girls & Boys sounds terrible on that Peach single. Like they'd ripped it off a cassette or something.

anyone know WHO compiled this thing?

ThePartyman said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Re-recording and clean. Had a sample of "Everybody dance now" from C&C Music Factory's, Gonna Make You Sweat, in place of "You sexy mother fucker".

[Edited 10/24/16 6:29am]

Interesting. As a former DJ, I can't beleive it never occured to me to mash those two up!

Partyman- back in the day there was a radio station down in Texas that would play Delerious and as it was fading out they faded in Horny Toad without missing a beat. It was an excellant mix!!

jaawwnn said:

djThunderfunk said:

Guess I need to seek those singles out.

Alphabet Street edit is available on this promo.

https://www.discogs.com/P...se/1944381

I bought it at for about 20 quid a few years back and I remember thinking how strange it was that I was willing to shell out money in order to hear less of a song.

I'd love to hear 1999 full length without a fade out or segue into Little Red Corvette but I suspect you'd need to go back to the mastertapes for that one.

[Edited 10/24/16 16:27pm]

I have that Alphabet St. promo. Forgot it had the edit, I got it for the This Is Not Music track. Too bad it doesn't have the "Cont." track from the 7" b-side.

IstenSzek said:

jjam said:

Where exactly have you heard this from? Sounds like total bull. TGE was a Warner Bros release, after all.

i think people kind of come to this conclusion because warners has never issued any
material from the gold experience after it's initial run.

you'd think they stick TMBGITW on the new comp, wouldn't you? they even named
it in the press release

so neither this song or any other song from it being included in previous and now on
this release, would lead to the logical conclusion that they cannot use those tracks.

so not total bull, just the most logical explanation given the facts we have.

I don't claim the legalities of the situation. However, it is weird that the top 2 US charting songs that didn't make the new compilation were both from TGE. I would be curious to hear if there was another reason they wouldn't make the 40 songs included in the compilation if it wasn't for some contractual legalities. It could be argued looking at the world wide charts that TMBGITW was his most successful single, though it is one of my least favorites. Why exlude it and Hate U for that matter when they included so many non-hits from ealier albums. Especially since TGE was one of his most underexposed albums that had true commercial potential.

gandorb said:

IstenSzek said:

i think people kind of come to this conclusion because warners has never issued any
material from the gold experience after it's initial run.

you'd think they stick TMBGITW on the new comp, wouldn't you? they even named
it in the press release

so neither this song or any other song from it being included in previous and now on
this release, would lead to the logical conclusion that they cannot use those tracks.

so not total bull, just the most logical explanation given the facts we have.

I don't claim the legalities of the situation. However, it is weird that the top 2 US charting songs that didn't make the new compilation were both from TGE. I would be curious to hear if there was another reason they wouldn't make the 40 songs included in the compilation if it wasn't for some contractual legalities. It could be argued looking at the world wide charts that TMBGITW was his most successful single, though it is one of my least favorites. Why exlude it and Hate U for that matter when they included so many non-hits from ealier albums. Especially since TGE was one of his most underexposed albums that had true commercial potential.

if they had the means to do so, i don't see why they wouldn't have included a song from each
WB released album. like "letitgo" from 'come', "dinner with delores" from 'chaos and disorder'
and even "clouds" from aoa. they'd want to expose people to as many back catalogue albums
as possible, wouldn't they? and some people who are just 'casual' fans might even be a little
bit more interested in a 40 track compilation that includes about 8-10 songs they haven't yet
heard.

IstenSzek said:

It may have been answered at some point and I've missed it but...

I know Moonbeam Levels was originally recorded in 1982 but it was later considered for the Rave album in the late-80s. Was the track intended for Rave a re-recording of the original? I only wonder because of it's placement on this set.

Let us hope PR deluxe is better and we don't get the original album remastered with 1 or 2 extended mixes and no out takes like Electric Intercourse.

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Actually think I will not buy forever, but hint at someone to buy it for me as a present like the did with the Very Best of, which is what this album is on steroids.

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Sexy MF edit will likely be "You Sexy Mutha )Aowooww!!"

Adorecream said:

jjam said:

BartVanHemelen said:

WBR apparently cannot use TGE tracks.

Where exactly have you heard this from? Sounds like total bull. TGE was a Warner Bros release, after all.

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Let's see: the album isn't in print and hasn't been in ages, and no TGE song has ever appeared on a WBR compilation, despite TMBGITW being an obvious candidate for TVBO or Ultimate.

BartVanHemelen said:

EmmaMcG said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Let's see: the album isn't in print and hasn't been in ages, and no TGE song has ever appeared on a WBR compilation, despite TMBGITW being an obvious candidate for TVBO or Ultimate.

I'd say you're right. I mean, The Most Beautiful Girl In The World is one of his most known songs so not having it on a greatest hits collection must be some indication that Warner are restricted in some way. But seeing as The Gold Experience was a Warner release, I wonder why that would be the case?

Maybe a coincidence, but everything on this new collection was previously released (except MBL, of course) using the Prince name - there are no tracks on there. TGE is a album.