I have been following this thread since it started. LBrent: I have the same "gut feel" as you do. So many of your words are my own. Since I first played AOA when it came out I felt he was saying goodbye. But even with this mindset, some things just don't make sense to me. . For me, primarily: He was executor for his fathers estate, so he wasn't clueless. He knew that without a will the government and lawyers would take a large part of his estate. Why would a man as giving and generous as P not have a will on file?? The man had lawyers in his employ on speed dial I'm sure. From the sounds of it, he and Van Jones had a good relationship, with Van Jones doing the leg work on which charities in which cities, etc. that were in need. It seems to me it would have been quite simple to have Van draw up a will with at least the basics in it. I would assume Prince would have wanted as much $ as possible to go the non profits, schools, music scholarships, etc. instead of the mess it is now. But nothing??? I know P said he wasn't interested in the past or the future, but we all know P was somewhat of a control freak. I just not fathom him not taking precautions with his entire lifes work that he created and perfected, to avoid what is now happening. . On a side note: As prolific as he was, I would have almost expected him to have a farewell album finished and ready to be released right after he passed. . I would love to be able to "move on" as does everyone else here I'm sure. I am just not at peace with this all yet. Is anyone???? . But above all else....I just hope and pray that Prince wasn't scared when his time came. Eventually every cloud runs out of rain. | |
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zenarose said:
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"What if half the things ever said His lyrics always makes you think... Thanks for sharing! And bigtimefan ....Also have similar feeling expressed in your post above. | |
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another version of Prince playing Use Me from PP jam in 2015...go to www.mixcloud.com/lovesoun...ober-2015/ [Edited 10/27/16 22:45pm] [Edited 10/27/16 22:48pm] | |
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Well, after it came out recently that he had put everything into a corporation with the family as the governing partners, the will issue became moot. Essentially, P ensured the legacy was protected without a will. Plus, he planned the details of PP to become a museum and likely planned other details about his wishes after he "left".
I suspect that P chose to be alone when his time came. I fought that idea at first, but after all these new revelations about him planning so much it occured to me that as much as I hated the idea of him going alone, it truly was a P move.
After all, he could face the end with privacy and dignity on his own terms. I think that's why he left the hospital in Moline. He didn't want to go in a hospital setting like an invalid and he had a tiny bit more living to do...Free living.
Given the opportunity, I think P would've loved to have played a live gig and dropped onstage if it wouldn't have traumatized the audience. He even joked about going onstage to a talk show host in an interveiw a few years ago. (I think he was wearing a tan suit.)
One thing we can't deny...P lived. When he left us he had used nearly all his gifts and like he told TN, he "did everything he came here to do".
By the end, I like to think he pimp walked his way into whatever lays beyond...
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Thanks for this.
Prince talks about how much he loves JH right after singing Use Me, so that debunks the theories he might have been singing about her.
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MMJas said:
Thanks for this.
Prince talks about how much he loves JH right after singing Use Me, so that debunks the theories he might have been singing about her.
Sunday morning, I forgot my prayer Did He sing this on the P&M tour? I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R. | |
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I have no idea. He did sing Use me in the P&M tour, but this specific link of a PP jam october 2015. | |
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It was found that P had formed a LLC for his music, and that the LLC has a Manager. The LLC is in
with the estate but it hasn't been disclosed who partners, if any, are. ISAIDLIFEISJUSTAGAME
explained in another thread. We don't know that part of the information. I'm on pins and needles
about this. | |
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So all the gnashing of teeth re no will is passe. Always wondered why people didn't think his state of affairs was ON PURPOSE. Dude studied that shit. Along with everything else. Brand new boogie without the hero. | |
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. Very good thoughts, Olivia!
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. I can only speak for myself, but I'm sure many here will agree, we really aren't at peace....not just yet. Perhaps in a few more months, this will all be easier to accept. . I think Prince had a very strong relationship with God and he wasn't afraid of anything. I always thought it was a bit odd how he spoke of death so often. Even in his early songs, he spoke of the "afterworld" and "dying". I was reading some of his letters and one in particular stood out to me. He wrote a letter to a girl he was very fond of, and he said: "I want to live everywhere in the world before I die." So, even at a young age, he thought about dying. . I think Prince was an old soul, and he will be resurrected some day. His spirit will always live on.
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. Hmmm, I wonder who that could be?
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Rihanna's video "Bitch better have my money" is very creepy! What really got me is when she is standing in an "elevator", wearing a "beret", with a large suitcase. . Supposedly, the song is about the battle she had years ago with a former manager for money she was owed. But, I just find it strange to put a scene like this in her video. . Not trying to start any conspiracies here, but this is kinda freaky. . .
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[Edited 10/28/16 13:28pm] "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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Dibble: That's a neat story about Prince hiding inside his suitcase! I never knew about that before. . Yea, Prince was certainly a unique character!
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I've tried to do a search for the piece to no avail - the link to it was on here, so I hope someone can recall it for you - it was very entertaining! [Edited 10/28/16 14:12pm] | |
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We have discussed "who" dropped P off at PP on the night of 4/20 around 8-830pm. I think most of us
thought that it was KJ. BUt read this article. It mentions "staffers" finding him. So that means KJ and
MB. The CCS states that an"AQUAINTANCE" dropped him off on the night of 4/20. Further in the aricle
it says that Chaz Smith would not comment on P's health or the last time he saw P. We know what
Chaz Smith later stated......
Maybe we have another "un named" player in this mess. That would be the person that took P to
Walgreen that night.
Sorry yall I'm digging up everything I can find........just like a lil' Boston Terrier on a ham bone!!!
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. LMAO on the "wardrobe on wheels"......I know that video you are speaking of!! That was a very funny story. You are dismissed, LOL . Don't worry, I believe your story about the suitcase. He did quirky things like that. .
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. Lil' Boston Terrier on a Ham Bone!! LMAO!! . So, it wasn't KJ who was chauffeuring him around that night? Wooo....who is this acquaintance? . I thought KJ was one of the people who found him, along with Andrew Kornfeld, who made the 911 Call, and another staffer? Oh boy, I'm getting confused now, LOL . Most articles I have read with friends of Prince said they never saw Prince use drugs. Ever.
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No, it was "staffers" MB and KJ that found P with AK. But it said "aquaintance" dropped him off.
So that would seem to mean that KJ nor MB dropped P off. [Edited 10/28/16 14:38pm] | |
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http://www.southbendtribune.com/news/nation/was-prince-hiding-ill-health/article_4334e87b-3f3e-58ab-809f-f05564490478.html
LOL LOL I guess I should include the link at some point. ......... Sorry, 87 lb. dog was pulling on my
clothes to go out!!!! She doesn't give up!! | |
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. Ahhh, okay.......I gotcha!
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. No problem! I knew you would notice the link was missing! . What kind of doggie do you have? I have a 34 LB Sheltie! LOL
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1/2 Pit 1/2 Weimer..... I got adopted.... lol wrong place right time | |
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. Wow! Beautiful....Nice guard dog!!
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zenarose said:
We have discussed "who" dropped P off at PP on the night of 4/20 around 8-830pm. I think most of us
thought that it was KJ. BUt read this article. It mentions "staffers" finding him. So that means KJ and
MB. The CCS states that an"AQUAINTANCE" dropped him off on the night of 4/20. Further in the aricle
it says that Chaz Smith would not comment on P's health or the last time he saw P. We know what
Chaz Smith later stated.....
Maybe we have another "un named" player in this mess. That would be the person that took P to
Walgreen that night.
Sorry yall I'm digging up everything I can find.....just like a lil' Boston Terrier on a ham bone!!!
I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R. | |
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cloveringold85 said:
. Lil' Boston Terrier on a Ham Bone!! LMAO!! . So, it wasn't KJ who was chauffeuring him around that night? Wooo....who is this acquaintance? . I thought KJ was one of the people who found him, along with Andrew Kornfeld, who made the 911 Call, and another staffer? Oh boy, I'm getting confused now, LOL . Most articles I have read with friends of Prince said they never saw Prince use drugs. Ever.
great find Zena!! Agree with clover too...and I am confused now as to who P was with the night of the 20 th and who found him on the 21st along with the dr. Who is this Chaz Smith? Is he related to Will? | |
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cloveringold85 said: Rihanna's video "Bitch better have my money" is very creepy! What really got me is when she is standing in an "elevator", wearing a "beret", with a large suitcase. . Supposedly, the song is about the battle she had years ago with a former manager for money she was owed. But, I just find it strange to put a scene like this in her video. . Not trying to start any conspiracies here, but this is kinda freaky. . .
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[Edited 10/28/16 13:28pm] It is strange and Ps first manager was found dead of the same fentanyl laced pill too... Just makes you say hmmmmm..... | |
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Dibblekins said:
I've tried to do a search for the piece to no avail - the link to it was on here, so I hope someone can recall it for you - it was very entertaining! [Edited 10/28/16 14:12pm] I remember seeing that story on this site...the article talked about someone that kept bumping him into stuff?? Or not wanting to push him?? Either way it was during the 04 musicology time frame...not sure if this helps. | |
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