I can tell you years ago someone posted on Prince.org that Prince was in the hospital for Hepatitis. If you go in the search engine you should be able to find it as the mods did not delete the post. At that time we all myself included shot this down but the poster said his mom’s friend was a nurse at the hospital so looking back now I wonder if that is not what he was dealing with.
There are meds for it but eventfully it will take you down and if he was taking pain killers he would have to stop them immediately as it would make the liver function worst.
Combined with the fact that Dr. Fink said he told he back in the 80s he had heart palpitations and that he saw him taking aspirin all the time makes me think his liver might have had some serious damage. Hepatitis does not have the same stigma as AIDS or HIV but it is not something you want to broadcast and remember he was still a touring musician and insurance has to be taken out on the artist by promoters.
https://en.wikipedia.org/...epatitis_C https://en.wikipedia.org/...epatitis_B
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I think he mimicked a lot of the women he loved. | |
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She also says she wishes she had done something to save him. So that means she accepts he was dependant on those painkillers, perhaps. And the comment that JH should tell the whole story implies knowledge of something else going on... | |
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He was seeing a doctor for withdrawals which was never keep a secret since the day he died. I believe a lot of people around him knew that he was dependent on painkillers as that has been confirmed by Tavis Smiley and Andrian Cructhfiled but those people are very firm in saying he was not an addict and others are acknowledging that other issues were going on.
I believe he had joint pain and his issues with these meds started at that point but I also think in recent months something else was going on with his health. | |
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Laura, Since the beginning the drug addiction story has been a constant push. I discount everything that has been put out by the media. Therefore I give no credit to the "he was seeing a Dr for withdrawal symptoms." There is no proof of that or all the other things that have been told. To me it is all rumors. I do wish that the truth would be told and I truly see no reason why the truth shouldn't be with told. We all love Prince and we are loyal and committed. I want to know the truth. We all need the truth in order to heal from the loss and find some peace in our hearts and souls. We cannot move forward without the truth. I don't believe that P's spirit is at peace with all the sadness and hearts that are broken. The only thing that I know for a fact is that P has not been seen since 4/21/2016. We don't "know" anything past that. | |
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The withdrawal stuff came from the search warrent before it was sealed it is mentioned in a few articles. I will try and find them. Dr. S told the police he was treating Prince and he was bringing test results not that Dr could be lying but the police took P's medical records so they would know what was going on but this time.
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I cited the Associated Press but it was all of the legitimate news sources which showed the ME report. When there are other illnesses impacting on the death, they would be listed but they do not apply in this instance.
As far as how someone handles/functions being high, it depends on the person and it isn't just based on size.
How long he took these pills is something that is unknown at present, as well as the details pertaining to his visits with Dr. S.
This case is open because of who P. is an international superstar and it has brought to light a very serious issue that has been spiraling out of control for years. The drug companies are making millions and the people are paying the price..... | |
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MMJas said:
She also says she wishes she had done something to save him. So that means she accepts he was dependant on those painkillers, perhaps. And the comment that JH should tell the whole story implies knowledge of something else going on... how does saying you wish you could have done something to save someone imply that they were an addict ? I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R. | |
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Zenarose, I agree with you regarding whether or not he was being treated for withdrawal; we don't know if he was and we don't know why Dr. S was involved. Lenny Kravitz, God bless him, said he thought Prince dodged a bullet in the Moline incident, but then he said he thought he knew what killed him during a radio interview, but he would not reveal what he knew. I don't want to cause any pain to anyone, or to sound entitled, but I do think the autopsy report should be released by the family. Get it out there. Tell the truth. As you say, we are loyal and committed. NOTHING WILL CHANGE THAT! I absolutely hate the way things have unfolded. | |
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zenarose said: Laura, Since the beginning the drug addiction story has been a constant push. I discount everything that has been put out by the media. Therefore I give no credit to the "he was seeing a Dr for withdrawal symptoms." There is no proof of that or all the other things that have been told. To me it is all rumors. I do wish that the truth would be told and I truly see no reason why the truth shouldn't be with told. We all love Prince and we are loyal and committed. I want to know the truth. We all need the truth in order to heal from the loss and find some peace in our hearts and souls. We cannot move forward without the truth. I don't believe that P's spirit is at peace with all the sadness and hearts that are broken. The only thing that I know for a fact is that P has not been seen since 4/21/2016. We don't "know" anything past that. That's right Zen !! Adrian CRUTCHFIELD said he has punched a couple people in the face for calling Prince a drug addict and he said he'd do it again!. He knew Prince . I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R. | |
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The Associated Press only has information from the short report. The full report would show the rest of his health information. Other illness that impacted his health are not going to appear on this report. At no point in time has anyone said that other illnesses caused him to die. I wish we could book mark this stuff as it has been discussed a thousand times on this board.
Please see the proof below. http://www.usatoday.com/s.../85531498/ Even when the Carver County Sheriff's Office and Drug Enforcement Agency investigation of Prince's death is concluded, all that anyone, other than his doctor or his next-of-kin, will be able to read about the autopsy is the one-page summary of the cause-of-death and a few terse facts, such as his weight and clothing, released by the Midwest Medical Examiner's Office in a tweet on June 2. "That wasn't an 'autopsy report,' that was a press release," says forensic pathologist Dr. Michael Baden, who has investigated several high-profile deaths and appears frequently on TV to comment on cases. And that's the way it goes in Minnesota, says Martha Weaver, spokeswoman for the Midwest Medical Examiner's Office, which handles autopsies for several counties in Minnesota. Last week's Prince cause-of-death notice is all her office is going to release, she says. "Under Minnesota law, all other medical examiner data is considered private or nonpublic data," according to Midwest's brief statement last week. "The office is unable to make any further comments about its death investigation of Prince (Rogers) Nelson." The Prince case underscores the distinct differences among the states about what is and is not public about autopsies, regardless of the identity of the decedent. In states such as Minnesota, autopsy reports go only to the families and doctors (or to police in cases of criminal investigations), so in effect taxpayer dollars are paying to produce largely private reports. And conducting autopsies and death investigations can be costly.
Yes, your weight can factor into the effect meds have on your system. Doctors use your weight when considering your dosage. I do not believe for one minute that for years Prince was taking pain meds without an RX using massive dosages. The case is open per the reasons given by the police department a few weeks ago. They are not finished with their investigation to this open homicide case.
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------ http://www.startribune.com/prince-s-md-identified-in-search-warrant/378880371/
It is all in this article. It is interesting that they note that another local doctor was suppose to see Prince that day. A source with knowledge of the investigation told the Star Tribune on Friday that the doctor had been treating Prince for withdrawal symptoms from opioid addiction several weeks before his death. The source said the doctor did not prescribe opioids to the megastar. The warrant, filed May 6, accidentally was left unsealed until Tuesday, when Carver County learned of the mistake and sent a copy of the order sealing it to the Hennepin County court administrator. The Star Tribune obtained a copy. Schulenberg could not be reached for comment Tuesday. A review of his medical license shows no disciplinary action against the physician, who was trained at Oregon Health & Science University and who has board certification in family medicine. His attorney, Amy Conners, declined to comment Tuesday, citing the requirement that patient information be kept confidential. Prince reportedly was seeking treatment for addiction to painkillers in the weeks before his death. Representatives for the pop star reached out on April 20 to a California physician, Dr. Howard Kornfeld, who dispatched his son to meet with Prince the next day, along with another doctor who was federally certified to prescribe a medication, buprenorphine, which is used in the treatment of opioid addiction. Schulenberg is not on the list maintained by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration of practitioners who can prescribe buprenorphine. The second Minnesota physician, who has not been publicly identified, had cleared his morning calendar to evaluate Prince on the day his body was found, the source said. The appointment never took place. The warrant also reveals that Kirk Anthony Johnson — a close associate of Prince’s who manages Paisley Park — was present when detectives arrived at the death scene. The Star Tribune has reported that two staffers were present, along with Kornfeld’s son, Andrew, when Prince’s body was found. The affidavit says that detective Christina Wagner interviewed Johnson, who said that Prince had been treated in the Ridgeview health system for an undescribed illness in 2014 or 2015. Johnson could not be reached for comment. His attorney, F. Clayton Tyler, declined to comment Tuesday.
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But it doesn't say that KJ offered any info on 2016 or current treatment that P was seeking. No identified source for the other information in this report. How do we know if any of this is true?? Friends and coworkers say nay. Also the family members who have done a flip flop on their statement. Who and what do we believe?? I say go back to the beginning, and make a list of all the things that we know for a fact, no doubt, is the gospel truth. Another question is how is it that no one has leaked one word?? What and who could have such power to keep this so quiet and for what reason?? | |
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zenarose said: But it doesn't say that KJ offered any info on 2016 or current treatment that P was seeking. No identified source for the other information in this report. How do we know if any of this is true?? Friends and coworkers say nay. Also the family members who have done a flip flop on their statement. Who and what do we believe?? I say go back to the beginning, and make a list of all the things that we know for a fact, no doubt, is the gospel truth. Another question is how is it that no one has leaked one word?? What and who could have such power to keep this so quiet and for what reason?? --Leaks from unknown people to me are suspect and I do not think the media should use those sources however, so far everyone is taking the unknown source who said the pills were mid-labeled as the gospel. | |
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. Also keep in mind that was not the "full" autopsy report. . Prince wasn't given a Narcan shot when he was found at PP. Also, what is puzzling is the fact that Andrew Kornfeld told 911 that Prince was DEAD, yet they said paramedics tried to resucitate him? Paramedics/Medical Responders do not perform CPR on a person who is not breathing!! . Foul play, foul play, I say!!
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. I never believed that Prince had AIDS. That was something the media came up with, because of Prince's lifestyle (history with many women), so that was the story they ran with, because people will buy into their lies.
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. I agree! All I want is for the truth, and for Prince to be able to rest in peace! Sadly, I don't think we will ever have the whole truth about what happened to Prince. He had so many people in his life and they all have a different story to tell. I will never believe he was a drug addict. It was a tragic accident. If you look at the timeline of events, it's easy to see that the pieces of the puzzle don't fit. When things don't add up, it means something is wrong!!
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. Are we talking about Judith Hill? Because if we are, I would take anything she says with a grain of salt! She's only been around Prince for the past couple of years and Prince only confided in people what he wanted them to know.
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. I don't think Lenny Kravitz knows much of anything. He doesn't know what happened on that plane. Who's word is he going by? See my point? . In that interview, Lenny said he had a pretty good idea what Prince died of (cause of death), or something like that. That does not mean he actually knew or knows anything. He probably just did not want to discuss it, which I honestly can't blame him.
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cloveringold85 said:
Lenny Kravitz and Prince have been friends since Lenny released "Let Love Rule", late 1989. In my opinion, he was most likely privy to more personal details about Prince's life than we, Prince's fans, have ever been. I think he, LK, was/is in some deep emotional pain. An interesting paragraph in the RS article, with Lenny Kravitz, after Prince's death reads as follows: I saw him so much, in and out, that I can't remember the last time we spoke. I heard about the plane landing the other week. And I knew what it was. I thought, "Okay, he dodged a bullet. Close call, but it's a one-off and we move on." And then a week later, I got the news. It knocked me really out. I still haven't really recovered. Not to be dramatic or overly sensitive, but I really feel like a piece of me died. It's a very interesting article.....while his pain is almost palpable, he does include a few lighthearted moments that they shared. Link here: http://www.rollingstone.c...d-20160427 "Go placidly amid the noise and the haste, and remember what peace there may be in silence......." ~ DESIDERATA ~ Max Ehrmann | |
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Lala Escarzega was a dancer who made a video for Extra Lovable with him she made these comments on her Twitter on April 29th after the Enquier ran their AIDS story. She also had a few things to say on her Facebook which have now been deleted. She was pretty adamant that he did not have AIDS and that we don’t know the real story. Just like his ex manager Julie Ramandan said about the Judith Hill story making a comment about how she should tell the whole story. Good information. Thanks for posting. I asked Prince what he was planning to do. He told me , I'm going to look for the ladder. I asked him what that meant. All he said was, sometimes it snows in April. - book D.M.S.R. | |
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Prince was friends/friendly to many people, but that does not mean they knew everything about him. Prince was very selective at who he let into his circle, and who he could confide in and trust without question. Sadly, I do not think he had many whom he could trust.
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Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end | |
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I did finish that sentence with the word "perhaps".
Also, where in my comment did I say Prince was an addict? [Edited 12/6/16 16:35pm] [Edited 12/6/16 16:36pm] | |
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They didn't give him the Narcan in the elevator because he was already gone. Sometimes Paramedics do try to resucitate people, but they had stated that it was of no use since he was probably dead for up to 5-6 hours. Kornfeld (being unattached to Prince) probably realized that he was gone, while everyone else there was going out of their minds, and understandably so. . It happened with my Grandpa, he fell out of his chair dead, my grandma called the ambulance and they came and resuscitate him. My dad called me and said that grandpa had passed, then called about an hour later and said that he was in intensive care on life support. He didn't make it thru the day. There was too much brain damage by lack of oxygen and the paramedics just really prolonged it, but at least it gave my family time to say goodbye to him. | |
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Who Julie or La La ? | |
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. I know. I was responding to what Lec1 had said: Also reported in an Associate Press article is that the test report prior to his death that showed no fentanyl happened at the time of the narcan save shot. . Paramedics/Medical Responders usually will not try to resucitate someone when there is no breathing/heartbeat. Andrew told 911 that the person was dead (Prince). . I'm sorry about your Grandfather. "With love, honor, and respect for every living thing in the universe, separation ceases, and we all become one being, singing one song." - Prince Roger Nelson (1958-2016) | |
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See her comments below.
https://www.facebook.com/lala.escarzega/posts/981437251903797.
and her recent post. Not sure what gossip or rumors she is speaking of.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BNGY1TmDFAI/
lalaescarzega"Girl Thang"- Prince gifted this song to me after a night I jokingly asked him to sing me to sleep. I had also told him his photo he sent me made me swoon & I love how he made the lyrics so personal so only he and I would "get it". He gave this song to me the very next night. There is also an instrumental of this that he gave me and I have no idea if it was ever released or not.
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