zenarose said:

I got on FB and went to 2 pages but this is no longer posted. So evidentally it was deleted. I also went to lurk on the GTTT page and there was no post or mention of this yet. Im going to save the pozt in my files, we might need it in the future. I guess that CG, her Mgr, and Tyka have been conversing????? [Edited 12/11/16 13:57pm]

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Yea, I saw that post was gone from FB.

zenarose said:

herb4 said:

Idiocy. That sets me off. And also cracks me up on occasion, depending on my mood.

I mean come on. I'm reading about Russians with briefcases, how Prince faked his own death, The Illuminatti, numerology, astrology, WB hitmen, chefs with poison...it's absurd.

Then I make a list of like 10 things that are proven to be bullshit and get called out for being wrong about the "really important 25%" I ask what they are, never get a response and then get told to "go back in my hole" and accused of being a troll. How hard is that? To point out the "Real Important Stuff" I'm wrong about? Or are we just only allowed to post about "There's SO much we don't know? Something is fishy? The MEDIA and "they" are covering up something? "THEY" killed Prince" Is this a discussion or a circle jerk? I wasn't aware that the rules said we could only post things that agree with the Headline, like if a thread says "Batman is Great Album!", are people only allowed to post in that thread to the affirmative?

Because that's silly so knock yourselves out and report me I guess. I'm sorry, but anyone that seriously believes that Prince has faked his own death has some serious, serious issues.

Also, LOL at "oh God. Not another vaccination screed. Go back in your hole"

*3 pages of posts about vaccinations/none by me*

Here you go:

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/autism.html

Anyone

HERB4....HERB4...... Why do you always do this??? I am not one to create drama but today....you have packed a bag and you are living on my last nerve!! To begin with you think that YOU have control over what we think. WRONG we have the right to fight for our children when the government is forcing us to potentially harm them. But oh that's right it didn't harm yours so who cares about the other kids out there. But it could have been yours. You then continue to chastise us over our different scenarios as to what may have happened to Prince. Once again you try to sell us BS that YOU believe. You have absolutely NO proof, see me, smell me, touch me, PROOF of what you are trying to sell!! It's OK....the media can't sell that ish either. None of us know for absolutely positively certain what occurred. We discuss things because we are searching for the truth because we care. If you can't be part of the resolution, don't be the problem. Skip the dang thread. But don't come here and call us names and talk down to us like you are the only intelligent person on this earth!!

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HERB4:.....Truly amazing how you just totally ignored Olivia's Post #1284, which was in response to what you said about vaccines. She said her son became autistic after he had the MMR vaccine and you say NOTHING!! You have absolutely no compassion for people and it's quite sad. I usually avoid commenting on your silly posts, but I have to say this; I guarantee you, if you had a child who developed autism or any other disorder/disease, you would not be preaching about parents giving their kids these potentially dangerous vaccines! Try to show some empathy and compassion for those who are hurting. If this happened to YOUR child, how would YOU feel?

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The Russians, Illuminati, Prince Death Hoax, Chef poisoning Prince, cover-up by the media, etc......EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinions, get it?? Some people believe, based on the timeline of events that there was foul-play involved in Prince's death. Why can't you just accept that people feel differently than you?

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Why do you keep coming back to this thread? I never see you in the threads that discuss Prince's estate, his death, and the investigation that is still going on. Do you even care about what happened to Prince?

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SMDH!!!!

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zenarose said:

cloveringold85 said:

PennyPurple said:

cloveringold85 said:

MIRvmn said:

Yes I think it's possible he stepped away from the spotlight if he had health issues to get treatment somewhere. Maybe he didn't want to make his fans worried so he just quit being the artist Prince (as an advice from the Doctors). Perhaps he now lives a much less stressful life without having to live up to everyone's expectations. I don't usually question whether someone is dead or not, but in this case I do cuz I know Prince was an very intelligent man who always knew what was best for him, theres no way he would die of an overdose, thats just out of the picture.

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Prince stepped away from the spotlight?

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Prince would never fake his death. Did you read what Dibble just posted from Cat's FB page?

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Prince is gone, and his death is very supicious. I thought at first that maybe he faked his death, but as more and more information came out, I knew there was foul-play. Prince would never, never never fake his death.

well, i prefer to fantasize that he's alive and well somewhere....

laurarichardson said:

CooperC62057 said:

zenarose said:

herb4 said:

Idiocy. That sets me off. And also cracks me up on occasion, depending on my mood.

I mean come on. I'm reading about Russians with briefcases, how Prince faked his own death, The Illuminatti, numerology, astrology, WB hitmen, chefs with poison...it's absurd.

Then I make a list of like 10 things that are proven to be bullshit and get called out for being wrong about the "really important 25%" I ask what they are, never get a response and then get told to "go back in my hole" and accused of being a troll. How hard is that? To point out the "Real Important Stuff" I'm wrong about? Or are we just only allowed to post about "There's SO much we don't know? Something is fishy? The MEDIA and "they" are covering up something? "THEY" killed Prince" Is this a discussion or a circle jerk? I wasn't aware that the rules said we could only post things that agree with the Headline, like if a thread says "Batman is Great Album!", are people only allowed to post in that thread to the affirmative?

Because that's silly so knock yourselves out and report me I guess. I'm sorry, but anyone that seriously believes that Prince has faked his own death has some serious, serious issues.

Also, LOL at "oh God. Not another vaccination screed. Go back in your hole"

*3 pages of posts about vaccinations/none by me*

Here you go:

http://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/autism.html

Anyone

HERB4....HERB4...... Why do you always do this??? I am not one to create drama but today....you have packed a bag and you are living on my last nerve!! To begin with you think that YOU have control over what we think. WRONG we have the right to fight for our children when the government is forcing us to potentially harm them. But oh that's right it didn't harm yours so who cares about the other kids out there. But it could have been yours. You then continue to chastise us over our different scenarios as to what may have happened to Prince. Once again you try to sell us BS that YOU believe. You have absolutely NO proof, see me, smell me, touch me, PROOF of what you are trying to sell!! It's OK....the media can't sell that ish either. None of us know for absolutely positively certain what occurred. We discuss things because we are searching for the truth because we care. If you can't be part of the resolution, don't be the problem. Skip the dang thread. But don't come here and call us names and talk down to us like you are the only intelligent person on this earth!!

What did I do? I'm not allowed to discuss?

I have "no proof" of what? What am I "selling"?

laurarichardson said:

CooperC62057 said:

So what's the possibility that the entire overdose and pain med dependency spin was purposely put out by authorities to keep what really happened quiet during an investigation?

I have been think about this the last couple of days because all of the info we have us from unamed sources. Nothing really in depth from the police. Even Moline troubles me has you can get the transcripts from the EMT via FOIA. How come no one from the media as done this? How come no more media inquiries about Shulberg? The big question was someone slipping something to Prince that he was unaware and was waiting to get information on from those test that DrS was bringing on April 21st. No one is saying he was not dealing with a dependency issue with pain pills but what if something else was going on. Think about Adrian saying he spoke to his a few days before the concert to let him know he was not a 100% and that he would be seeing his Dr when he got back from Atlanta. What about the Atlanta promoter saying he left the stage complainting about stomach pain? What if he thought he was just dealing with withdrawals or even the flu and had no idea he was being poisoned? These are just thoughts as do many things don't add up. [Edited 12/11/16 16:35pm]

The ones to keep an eye on are the ones who have said nothing. All these others are deliberate distracters imo, jumping in to keep everyone off balance and chasing vague and unprovable theories.

Mumio said:

Mumio said:

zenarose said:

Mumio said:

The ones to keep an eye on are the ones who have said nothing. All these others are deliberate distracters imo, jumping in to keep everyone off balance and chasing vague and unprovable theories.

You mean as in the "inner circle"?? 🤔

Well, here's the thing about the "inner circle": who exactly is part of the inner circle? We just saw an article about comments from Prince's "closest friends"...and I was like oh really? How do we know these were his closest friends? How do we know who is inner circle? There's never been any real true verifiable proof on who is considered as "inner circle", only guesses by everyone who ISN'T inner circle. I'll put it out there that Kirk was inner circle, but there's really no other guarantees about who else is inner circle and just living/working at PP doesn't mean someone was inner circle either. Just because people/muses/proteges were around him for a year or two doesn't make them inner circle in my opinion. I have no doubt he had confidants, but who knows for a fact who they were.

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Mumio said:

I really hope this isn't true, and he wasn't a fan of Alex Jones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXa45AJ6bns

pauldominion said:

I really hope this isn't true, and he wasn't a fan of Alex Jones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VXa45AJ6bns

Why? Being curious and finding other information sources interesting is wrong? Alex Jones and David Icke talk a lot of crap, but there's some truths in there somewhere if you know how to look.
Prince went on national television and talked openly about chemtrails. He has always been against the establishment and opposed it. So you admire Prince for fighting that war, but not for thinking outside the box?
Who knows what the truth is? One thing I do know, we are not told everything. There are too many interests involved, don't you agree?
If you take the time and have an open mind, do some research. Read about some things. Do you really think governments don't control people's opinions and perceptions? You don't think there's an agenda regarding Big Pharma, making everyone dependant on medicine for diseases that are preventable if you have a normal anf healthy diet, instead of eating processed food and making yourself sick knowingly???? Did you know, for instance, that notwithstading many studies being made into the effects of meat consumption (i'm talking nowadays, with all the antibiotics and other stuff being fed into animals), all those were purposefully ommited from the world health organization because one of the members of that board had direct interests in the meat production industry?

And do you think none of the above is related? Well, I do.

zenarose said:

Mumio said:

Well, here's the thing about the "inner circle": who exactly is part of the inner circle? We just saw an article about comments from Prince's "closest friends"...and I was like oh really? How do we know these were his closest friends? How do we know who is inner circle? There's never been any real true verifiable proof on who is considered as "inner circle", only guesses by everyone who ISN'T inner circle. I'll put it out there that Kirk was inner circle, but there's really no other guarantees about who else is inner circle and just living/working at PP doesn't mean someone was inner circle either. Just because people/muses/proteges were around him for a year or two doesn't make them inner circle in my opinion. I have no doubt he had confidants, but who knows for a fact who they were.

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Exactly, I understand your line of thinking. I pretty much had KJ figured for inner circle. Prince did say in an interview that he trusted JW enough to hand him the keys to PP. So unless that changed at some point, he might be considered inner circle. I am still not convinced that he was close with family members. There is nothing to prove that and I don't believe that has been established. So there is some thinking and research to be done on this subject.

I keep wondering who was taking messages for him after the Moline incident. Andre Cymone said he never spoke to Prince after that incident. He said he left messages and got a message back from a employee saying everything was okay and that Prince was going to come out to L.A. and see him in a few weeks.

Sheila said she never spoke to him at all. She kept being told he was sleeping. Who was relaying these messages. Was he even getting these messages from his oldest friends.

Judith Hill flew back to Los Angeles. Saturday he was seen with his sister at the PP event. I don't remember if anyone saw him on Sunday or Monday. Tuesday night - wasn't he at that club in Minneapolis, he was with people and he stayed for the entire show, which he never did in the past. Wednesday he was at the hospital, Walgreen's, and saw Dr. S. We still don't know who dropped him off at PP, and with whom he came into contact that evening, except for Will Smith. I may be missing things here. At first, I thought this was so cut and dry, but now, as time passes, I just don't know. I have always thought there was something in the autopsy report which stopped the family from releasing it - either the investigators told them not to do it or they thought it might affect his legacy.

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1Sasha said:

Judith Hill flew back to Los Angeles. Saturday he was seen with his sister at the PP event. I don't remember if anyone saw him on Sunday or Monday. Tuesday night - wasn't he at that club in Minneapolis, he was with people and he stayed for the entire show, which he never did in the past. Wednesday he was at the hospital, Walgreen's, and saw Dr. S. We still don't know who dropped him off at PP, and with whom he came into contact that evening, except for Will Smith. I may be missing things here. At first, I thought this was so cut and dry, but now, as time passes, I just don't know. I have always thought there was something in the autopsy report which stopped the family from releasing it - either the investigators told them not to do it or they thought it might affect his legacy.

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To me it is obvious there's something in the full report that the family and most likely Prince did not want us to see, either because there something else there or out of pure privacy issues.

There are too many loose ends. And something is off with the press. Everyone went with the drug overdose narrative and ate it right up, no questions asked. If I were a journalist i would want to know a few things. Did anyone get in touch with Will Smith? Why is there no news of some paper attempting to get a comment from WS? On the other hand, it could have been him tring to get attention.

So all these old friends were reaching out out of concern after the plane incident and not one got to actually talk to him? The whole "tell them the whole story" comments bug me. There's something else.

1Sasha said:

Judith Hill flew back to Los Angeles. Saturday he was seen with his sister at the PP event. I don't remember if anyone saw him on Sunday or Monday. Tuesday night - wasn't he at that club in Minneapolis, he was with people and he stayed for the entire show, which he never did in the past. Wednesday he was at the hospital, Walgreen's, and saw Dr. S. We still don't know who dropped him off at PP, and with whom he came into contact that evening, except for Will Smith. I may be missing things here. At first, I thought this was so cut and dry, but now, as time passes, I just don't know. I have always thought there was something in the autopsy report which stopped the family from releasing it - either the investigators told them not to do it or they thought it might affect his legacy.

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Just to add to this, Van Jones said he had spoken with Prince on Sunday April 17th and Tamron Hall said she spoke to him on Monday April 18th. So it appears he was taking some calls, but not all of them. Van Jones had also said on Twitter that Prince knew who his "fake" friends were.

In my FB feed came a video of Phaedra, the lawyer. She is young! She was talking about getting his masters back.

I think we've all spoken quite a bit about the 2014 onwards time-frame as being the period in which 'something' was happening with Prince, as he started doing unusual things, things which were out of character for him, based on previous evidence.
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However, I have started thinking more about the 2009 / 2010 period too - because it was at that point that the 'hip surgery' (or whatever it was) took place - possibly the initiating factor in any subsequent health problems.

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You may recall he went VERY thin during this period; did a TV show sitting on a stool - and now this picture has come to my attention: look closely at his HAIR. It looks not like male pattern baldness, but like someone who is losing chunks of their hair, perhaps as a result of medical treatment?

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I have thought that when he changed his hair to the Afro style and started wearing the non-closefitting clothes that something was happening. That would have been in your time frame.

Mumio said:

1Sasha said:

Judith Hill flew back to Los Angeles. Saturday he was seen with his sister at the PP event. I don't remember if anyone saw him on Sunday or Monday. Tuesday night - wasn't he at that club in Minneapolis, he was with people and he stayed for the entire show, which he never did in the past. Wednesday he was at the hospital, Walgreen's, and saw Dr. S. We still don't know who dropped him off at PP, and with whom he came into contact that evening, except for Will Smith. I may be missing things here. At first, I thought this was so cut and dry, but now, as time passes, I just don't know. I have always thought there was something in the autopsy report which stopped the family from releasing it - either the investigators told them not to do it or they thought it might affect his legacy.

[Edited 12/12/16 4:15am]

Just to add to this, Van Jones said he had spoken with Prince on Sunday April 17th and Tamron Hall said she spoke to him on Monday April 18th. So it appears he was taking some calls, but not all of them. Van Jones had also said on Twitter that Prince knew who his "fake" friends were.

I just read an interview with The Revolution and Bobby Z (I think) texted him after Moline to find out how he was, and he said fine, and why don't you come out to PP for the Saturday night party, and Bobby Z said he couldn't go.

laurarichardson said:

CooperC62057 said:

So what's the possibility that the entire overdose and pain med dependency spin was purposely put out by authorities to keep what really happened quiet during an investigation?

I have been think about this the last couple of days because all of the info we have us from unamed sources. Nothing really in depth from the police. Even Moline troubles me has you can get the transcripts from the EMT via FOIA. How come no one from the media as done this? How come no more media inquiries about Shulberg? The big question was someone slipping something to Prince that he was unaware and was waiting to get information on from those test that DrS was bringing on April 21st. No one is saying he was not dealing with a dependency issue with pain pills but what if something else was going on. Think about Adrian saying he spoke to his a few days before the concert to let him know he was not a 100% and that he would be seeing his Dr when he got back from Atlanta. What about the Atlanta promoter saying he left the stage complainting about stomach pain? What if he thought he was just dealing with withdrawals or even the flu and had no idea he was being poisoned? These are just thoughts as do many things don't add up. [Edited 12/11/16 16:35pm]

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I agree, and this is what I've been saying all along.

laurarichardson said:

zenarose said:

Mumio said: Exactly, I understand your line of thinking. I pretty much had KJ figured for inner circle. Prince did say in an interview that he trusted JW enough to hand him the keys to PP. So unless that changed at some point, he might be considered inner circle. I am still not convinced that he was close with family members. There is nothing to prove that and I don't believe that has been established. So there is some thinking and research to be done on this subject.

I keep wondering who was taking messages for him after the Moline incident. Andre Cymone said he never spoke to Prince after that incident. He said he left messages and got a message back from a employee saying everything was okay and that Prince was going to come out to L.A. and see him in a few weeks.

Sheila said she never spoke to him at all. She kept being told he was sleeping. Who was relaying these messages. Was he even getting these messages from his oldest friends.

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This is exactly why Prince should have had his own personal cell phone. He shouldn't have relied on other people to handle his communications.