cloveringold85 said:

zenarose said:

It was found that P had formed a LLC for his music, and that the LLC has a Manager. The LLC is in

with the estate but it hasn't been disclosed who partners, if any, are. ISAIDLIFEISJUSTAGAME

explained in another thread. We don't know that part of the information. I'm on pins and needles

about this.

.

Hmmm, I wonder who that could be?

Phaedera Ellen Lampkins is the only Member Listed for

Npg Music Publishing, LLC

https://www.corporationwiki.com/p/2eu5fe/npg-music-publishing-llc

mnfriend said:

paisleypearl said:

What is going on with Mani divorce records? Maybe they would reveal a drug problem way back when.

Or an illness/disease. RIP Prince.

He could have had liver damage from taking pain meds. See below.

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The drugs for liver issues are non-controlled substances and some have to be administered by a doctor in a hospital not picked up at a pharmacy. We know that Dr. S prescribed non-controlled Rxs for his on April 20th. I believe one of the drugs is interferon which is also used for AIDS might be were the AIDs story came from if someone at Walgreens saw him picking it up. There was also a story that he had Sepsis in 2014 and was in the hospital for treatment. Sephis can be a by product of liver failure. It kind of ties in with what his sister said about knowing he was going to die two year ago and the fact that liver or any organ failure can be gradual with meds.

He may have known his time was short but not how short where if he had AIDS he would know the end would be A.S.A.P. I don’t think he would have been working on his memoirs, or spending time turning Paisley Park into a museum if he had an AIDS diagnosis. So many people around him keep saying we do not know the whole story. I think this may come out in the divorce papers because it is possible he had organ damage when he was married and may not have even known or second wife may have threaten to tell the media and he had to pay her off. I believe something is in the divorce settlement that will make her M2 look bad. If she threaten to expose any health issues or aspects of his private life to the public imagine how that would make her look.

Lovejunky said:

cloveringold85 said:

.

Hmmm, I wonder who that could be?

Phaedera Ellen Lampkins is the only Member Listed for

Npg Music Publishing, LLC

https://www.corporationwiki.com/p/2eu5fe/npg-music-publishing-llc

I am not sure the LLC is with the estate or separate. Mrs. Lampkins has hired an attorney and has asked the court to seal financial documents that Breamer has requested. I kind of think if the LLC was a part of the estate why would Breamer need to request the docs from Mrs. Lampkins? Also the lawsuit against Roc Nation is between the LLC and Roc Nation not the estate of PRN.

Kind of confusing and since so much is sealed we just don't know.

laurarichardson said:

Lovejunky said:

Phaedera Ellen Lampkins is the only Member Listed for

Npg Music Publishing, LLC

https://www.corporationwiki.com/p/2eu5fe/npg-music-publishing-llc

I am not sure the LLC is with the estate or separate. Mrs. Lampkins has hired an attorney and has asked the court to seal financial documents that Breamer has requested. I kind of think if the LLC was a part of the estate why would Breamer need to request the docs from Mrs. Lampkins? Also the lawsuit against Roc Nation is between the LLC and Roc Nation not the estate of PRN.

Kind of confusing and since so much is sealed we just don't know.

Yeah..Lots of Confusion...My Brain is like a Pretzel over this...

but according to that LINK there is only ONE member of the LLC and it is SHE...

Did you click it Laura...?

Wouldnt it list at least numerically if there were others?

Lovejunky said:

laurarichardson said:

I am not sure the LLC is with the estate or separate. Mrs. Lampkins has hired an attorney and has asked the court to seal financial documents that Breamer has requested. I kind of think if the LLC was a part of the estate why would Breamer need to request the docs from Mrs. Lampkins? Also the lawsuit against Roc Nation is between the LLC and Roc Nation not the estate of PRN.

Kind of confusing and since so much is sealed we just don't know.

Yeah..Lots of Confusion...My Brain is like a Pretzel over this...

but according to that LINK there is only ONE member of the LLC and it is SHE...

Did you click it Laura...?

Wouldnt it list at least numerically if there were others?

She is listed as the manger. I am not sure it makes her a member.

laurarichardson said:

Lovejunky said:

Yeah..Lots of Confusion...My Brain is like a Pretzel over this...

but according to that LINK there is only ONE member of the LLC and it is SHE...

Did you click it Laura...?

Wouldnt it list at least numerically if there were others?

She is listed as the manger. I am not sure it makes her a member.

No...

she is listed as the One and Only Member...

Lovejunky said:

laurarichardson said:

She is listed as the manger. I am not sure it makes her a member.

No...

she is listed as the One and Only Member...

Not from the filing with the state of Califorinia . It does not say who the members are and because it is a LLC it does not have to say who the members are and the State Article of incorporation is a better place for informaition for then a Wiki.

http://kepler.sos.ca.gov/

LLC can also have silent members who can become active after death of the owner or other members.

laurarichardson said:

Lovejunky said:

No...

she is listed as the One and Only Member...

Not from the filing with the state of Califorinia . It does not say who the members are and because it is a LLC it does not have to say who the members are and the State Article of incorporation is a better place for informaition for then a Wiki.

LLC can also have silent members who can become active after death of the owner or other members.

Mysterious and Mysteriouser..

*screams..pulls hair...crosses eyes...bites tongue..lies on floor kicks legs ..gets up..stomps feet balls fists Falls down exhausted*

Lovejunky said:

laurarichardson said:

Not from the filing with the state of Califorinia . It does not say who the members are and because it is a LLC it does not have to say who the members are and the State Article of incorporation is a better place for informaition for then a Wiki.

LLC can also have silent members who can become active after death of the owner or other members.

Mysterious and Mysteriouser..

*screams..pulls hair...crosses eyes...bites tongue..lies on floor kicks legs ..gets up..stomps feet balls fists Falls down exhausted*

We may get a idea when the probate is concluded but maybe not because so many finacial aspects are being sealed. Already Phredra is asking that the court not make finacial docs from the LLC public and getting her own attorney.

laurarichardson said:

mnfriend said:

paisleypearl said: Or an illness/disease. RIP Prince.

He could have had liver damage from taking pain meds. See below.

-------

The drugs for liver issues are non-controlled substances and some have to be administered by a doctor in a hospital not picked up at a pharmacy. We know that Dr. S prescribed non-controlled Rxs for his on April 20th. I believe one of the drugs is interferon which is also used for AIDS might be were the AIDs story came from if someone at Walgreens saw him picking it up. There was also a story that he had Sepsis in 2014 and was in the hospital for treatment. Sephis can be a by product of liver failure. It kind of ties in with what his sister said about knowing he was going to die two year ago and the fact that liver or any organ failure can be gradual with meds.

He may have known his time was short but not how short where if he had AIDS he would know the end would be A.S.A.P. I don’t think he would have been working on his memoirs, or spending time turning Paisley Park into a museum if he had an AIDS diagnosis. So many people around him keep saying we do not know the whole story. I think this may come out in the divorce papers because it is possible he had organ damage when he was married and may not have even known or second wife may have threaten to tell the media and he had to pay her off. I believe something is in the divorce settlement that will make her M2 look bad. If she threaten to expose any health issues or aspects of his private life to the public imagine how that would make her look.

Interferon is also used for Hep C and some cancers. Where did it come out that it was Interferon? I thought I read somewhere that the sepsis was a response/related to the treatment of his anemia. Peace

http://podbay.fm/show/160757031/e/146152930?uatostart=1

Over the weekend, I was going through the sticky "notes and thoughts by celebs about P"...After listening to the Sam Jennings podcast on the Princepodcast, I went back to see if there was anything else I would like to listen to. There is an interview with Tyka (70 minutes), and one with Andre' Cymone. In the description for the one with Tyka, it states the interview was "a few years ago", yet the one with Andre' SPECIFICALLY states the interview was in 2014. In the interview with Tyka, around the 50:00 mark (50 minute), the intereviewer specifically asks what is the truth behind the rumors of P's ill health and not looking well. Tyka's response was that when she "heard the news" she was doing dishes and that "the person" (obviously who was P's spokesperson) that stated P was in ill health was a valid go to source, so she phones "the person" to "get that out of the way" so that she would have a clear mind and know everything was ok with P. When she called "the person", HE said P was fine, not to worry.....I'm suspicious that this interview wasn't in 2014 as well, being that Tyka said she "knew" and has been preparing for "a couple of years". My point being that obviously there were things going around the rumor mill in regards to P's health as of the taping of that interview and I'm wondering if this isn't the time frame that Tyka was made aware and she started to "prepare". This interview was done before Tyka's "tour" was coming up in Aug of whatever year the interview took place and a book was to be released.

Thoughts?

laurarichardson said:

mnfriend said:

paisleypearl said: Or an illness/disease. RIP Prince.

He could have had liver damage from taking pain meds. See below.

-------

The drugs for liver issues are non-controlled substances and some have to be administered by a doctor in a hospital not picked up at a pharmacy. We know that Dr. S prescribed non-controlled Rxs for his on April 20th. I believe one of the drugs is interferon which is also used for AIDS might be were the AIDs story came from if someone at Walgreens saw him picking it up. There was also a story that he had Sepsis in 2014 and was in the hospital for treatment. Sephis can be a by product of liver failure. It kind of ties in with what his sister said about knowing he was going to die two year ago and the fact that liver or any organ failure can be gradual with meds.

He may have known his time was short but not how short where if he had AIDS he would know the end would be A.S.A.P. I don’t think he would have been working on his memoirs, or spending time turning Paisley Park into a museum if he had an AIDS diagnosis. So many people around him keep saying we do not know the whole story. I think this may come out in the divorce papers because it is possible he had organ damage when he was married and may not have even known or second wife may have threaten to tell the media and he had to pay her off. I believe something is in the divorce settlement that will make her M2 look bad. If she threaten to expose any health issues or aspects of his private life to the public imagine how that would make her look.

[Edited 12/5/16 8:48am]

If any of this is true, concerning his health, it is a wonder he got through the P + A M dates at all. And I still say, even though I have been chastised about this by other orgers, that his deterioration was visible to strangers (us) - where were the people around him on this? All saying blithely that he was "fine," when he looked very, very ill. Yes, the voice and musical ability were intact, but he was so thin ...

Lovejunky said:

laurarichardson said:

Not from the filing with the state of Califorinia . It does not say who the members are and because it is a LLC it does not have to say who the members are and the State Article of incorporation is a better place for informaition for then a Wiki.

LLC can also have silent members who can become active after death of the owner or other members.

Mysterious and Mysteriouser..

*screams..pulls hair...crosses eyes...bites tongue..lies on floor kicks legs ..gets up..stomps feet balls fists Falls down exhausted*

Lawd.

If this LLC is structured similar to a hedge fund it'll have a General Partner and up to 99 "limited liability partners" and will be considered an investment vehicle that won't be regulated by the SEC, unlike a mutual fund.

However, all of the LLPs in a hedge fund must fit the criteria as "high net worth individuals", meaning P could've set aside trusts for each sibling to fit that criteria and being trusts the details would be invisible to the public.

Again, P's objectives for after his death could be reached by setting everything up before his death...and things would not have to be filter through a will, keeping things as private as possible.

Yay!

1Sasha said:

If any of this is true, concerning his health, it is a wonder he got through the P + A M dates at all. And I still say, even though I have been chastised about this by other orgers, that his deterioration was visible to strangers (us) - where were the people around him on this? All saying blithely that he was "fine," when he looked very, very ill. Yes, the voice and musical ability were intact, but he was so thin ...

What if he told them, Yup, I have<insert illness/health issue and a timeframe>.....I'm not leaving a will, but I am setting things up like this...I don't want to discuss it. If you love/respect me, please honor my wishes. I plan on working until the end. Until then, business as usual.

???

1Sasha said:

If any of this is true, concerning his health, it is a wonder he got through the P + A M dates at all. And I still say, even though I have been chastised about this by other orgers, that his deterioration was visible to strangers (us) - where were the people around him on this? All saying blithely that he was "fine," when he looked very, very ill. Yes, the voice and musical ability were intact, but he was so thin ...

If you want to listen to Tyka's interview, it is on my post, I just couldn't "copy and paste" the address to link form, but the podcast interview address is there...

precioux said:

http://podbay.fm/show/160757031/e/146152930?uatostart=1

Over the weekend, I was going through the sticky "notes and thoughts by celebs about P"...After listening to the Sam Jennings podcast on the Princepodcast, I went back to see if there was anything else I would like to listen to. There is an interview with Tyka (70 minutes), and one with Andre' Cymone. In the description for the one with Tyka, it states the interview was "a few years ago", yet the one with Andre' SPECIFICALLY states the interview was in 2014. In the interview with Tyka, around the 50:00 mark (50 minute), the intereviewer specifically asks what is the truth behind the rumors of P's ill health and not looking well. Tyka's response was that when she "heard the news" she was doing dishes and that "the person" (obviously who was P's spokesperson) that stated P was in ill health was a valid go to source, so she phones "the person" to "get that out of the way" so that she would have a clear mind and know everything was ok with P. When she called "the person", HE said P was fine, not to worry.....I'm suspicious that this interview wasn't in 2014 as well, being that Tyka said she "knew" and has been preparing for "a couple of years". My point being that obviously there were things going around the rumor mill in regards to P's health as of the taping of that interview and I'm wondering if this isn't the time frame that Tyka was made aware and she started to "prepare". This interview was done before Tyka's "tour" was coming up in Aug of whatever year the interview took place and a book was to be released.

Thoughts?

I've tried to get the podcast link to work on 3 different devices, but it won't work for me.

Anybody have any luck getting it to work?

AA1slot said:

LBrent said:

precioux said:

http://podbay.fm/show/160757031/e/146152930?uatostart=1

Over the weekend, I was going through the sticky "notes and thoughts by celebs about P"...After listening to the Sam Jennings podcast on the Princepodcast, I went back to see if there was anything else I would like to listen to. There is an interview with Tyka (70 minutes), and one with Andre' Cymone. In the description for the one with Tyka, it states the interview was "a few years ago", yet the one with Andre' SPECIFICALLY states the interview was in 2014. In the interview with Tyka, around the 50:00 mark (50 minute), the intereviewer specifically asks what is the truth behind the rumors of P's ill health and not looking well. Tyka's response was that when she "heard the news" she was doing dishes and that "the person" (obviously who was P's spokesperson) that stated P was in ill health was a valid go to source, so she phones "the person" to "get that out of the way" so that she would have a clear mind and know everything was ok with P. When she called "the person", HE said P was fine, not to worry.....I'm suspicious that this interview wasn't in 2014 as well, being that Tyka said she "knew" and has been preparing for "a couple of years". My point being that obviously there were things going around the rumor mill in regards to P's health as of the taping of that interview and I'm wondering if this isn't the time frame that Tyka was made aware and she started to "prepare". This interview was done before Tyka's "tour" was coming up in Aug of whatever year the interview took place and a book was to be released.

Thoughts?

I've tried to get the podcast link to work on 3 different devices, but it won't work for me.

Anybody have any luck getting it to work?

This is all I can do, since the link won't post...go to the "sticky" Notes and thoughts by celebrities about Prince"...go to reply#5, click on Sam Jennings Podcast, instead of listening to that one, look to the left where you will find "episodes"...click on that, and scroll down till you find "Tyka interview"...they also have an interview with Andre' Cymone.

Something else bothered me months ago, but got lost in the earlier disruptions...

P's hair.

Ok, he went back to the 'fro, right?

But after so much started to point to him not looking so well in the past coupla years I really started to pay attention to WHEN he went back to the 'fro.

For those who do not have 'fro textured hair, bear with me...When folks "go natural" and stop using relaxers, etc it's a big thing to do a "big chop". which means cutting off all the chemically treated hair. Granted, not everyone does it but it is a known thing to do in the "back to natural hair" movement.

Now, the general public would most likely simply write it off as P "being weird" and since we P fans have been used to him doing lotsa things to his hair at first it was just yet another "P thing".

BUT...

What if he deliberately coincided going natural/a "big chop" with a loss of hair due to LOSING hair due to medication for a serious illness (ex. Cancer) and it was largely ignored cuz folks wrote it off as yet another example of P doing something shocking/different?

I've even heard folks say the 'fro was a wig or looked like a wig. I blew it off at the time, but...

what if at first it was? And he eventually grew his hair back to what's known in the natural hair community as a "TWA" (Teeny Weeny Afro)?

If he wore those knitted caps over some sort of wig/hair appliance for a few months he could've definitely come back with a "TWA" without being seen bald.

Dammit, now I'm getting teary thinking about P trying to maintain his business, retain his dignity, maintain his privacy, maintain a modicum of a life...He was going through it thee past few years, really going through it...And it makes me so sad that he seemed to have orchestrated it to go through it mostly alone.

LBrent said:

1Sasha said:

If any of this is true, concerning his health, it is a wonder he got through the P + A M dates at all. And I still say, even though I have been chastised about this by other orgers, that his deterioration was visible to strangers (us) - where were the people around him on this? All saying blithely that he was "fine," when he looked very, very ill. Yes, the voice and musical ability were intact, but he was so thin ...

What if he told them, Yup, I have<insert illness/health issue and a timeframe>.....I'm not leaving a will, but I am setting things up like this...I don't want to discuss it. If you love/respect me, please honor my wishes. I plan on working until the end. Until then, business as usual.

???

I thought the Housequake statement today was spot on: none of us knew Prince personally. So how could we know what he was going through, or what he would have wanted? I could imagine him telling his sister what was going on, and that was why she was prepared only days after his passing to request Bremer. How would she have known where he banked unless she received payments from him through Bremer, or he told her what to do and where to go.

[Edited 12/5/16 11:04am]

precioux said:

1Sasha said:

If any of this is true, concerning his health, it is a wonder he got through the P + A M dates at all. And I still say, even though I have been chastised about this by other orgers, that his deterioration was visible to strangers (us) - where were the people around him on this? All saying blithely that he was "fine," when he looked very, very ill. Yes, the voice and musical ability were intact, but he was so thin ...

If you want to listen to Tyka's interview, it is on my post, I just couldn't "copy and paste" the address to link form, but the podcast interview address is there...

Thank you. Sometimes, I feel like we are in a maze with no exit.

LBrent said:

Something else bothered me months ago, but got lost in the earlier disruptions...

P's hair.

Ok, he went back to the 'fro, right?

But after so much started to point to him not looking so well in the past coupla years I really started to pay attention to WHEN he went back to the 'fro.

For those who do not have 'fro textured hair, bear with me...When folks "go natural" and stop using relaxers, etc it's a big thing to do a "big chop". which means cutting off all the chemically treated hair. Granted, not everyone does it but it is a known thing to do in the "back to natural hair" movement.

Now, the general public would most likely simply write it off as P "being weird" and since we P fans have been used to him doing lotsa things to his hair at first it was just yet another "P thing".

BUT...

What if he deliberately coincided going natural/a "big chop" with a loss of hair due to LOSING hair due to medication for a serious illness (ex. Cancer) and it was largely ignored cuz folks wrote it off as yet another example of P doing something shocking/different?

I've even heard folks say the 'fro was a wig or looked like a wig. I blew it off at the time, but...

what if at first it was? And he eventually grew his hair back to what's known in the natural hair community as a "TWA" (Teeny Weeny Afro)?

If he wore those knitted caps over some sort of wig/hair appliance for a few months he could've definitely come back with a "TWA" without being seen bald.

Dammit, now I'm getting teary thinking about P trying to maintain his business, retain his dignity, maintain his privacy, maintain a modicum of a life...He was going through it thee past few years, really going through it...And it makes me so sad that he seemed to have orchestrated it to go through it mostly alone.

After enduring the Prince and Andy Allo thread, I thought she was the one who encouraged him to let his hair go natural. Hmmm ... I was surprised that, near the end, his hair was not perfectly shaped - it was uneven. But then, he stopped wearing the perfectly tailored clothing, too.

LBrent said:

I agree with you, LR. Nothing about this seems to be innocent and/or unplanned.

1Sasha said:

LBrent said:

Something else bothered me months ago, but got lost in the earlier disruptions...

P's hair.

Ok, he went back to the 'fro, right?

But after so much started to point to him not looking so well in the past coupla years I really started to pay attention to WHEN he went back to the 'fro.

For those who do not have 'fro textured hair, bear with me...When folks "go natural" and stop using relaxers, etc it's a big thing to do a "big chop". which means cutting off all the chemically treated hair. Granted, not everyone does it but it is a known thing to do in the "back to natural hair" movement.

Now, the general public would most likely simply write it off as P "being weird" and since we P fans have been used to him doing lotsa things to his hair at first it was just yet another "P thing".

BUT...

What if he deliberately coincided going natural/a "big chop" with a loss of hair due to LOSING hair due to medication for a serious illness (ex. Cancer) and it was largely ignored cuz folks wrote it off as yet another example of P doing something shocking/different?

I've even heard folks say the 'fro was a wig or looked like a wig. I blew it off at the time, but...

what if at first it was? And he eventually grew his hair back to what's known in the natural hair community as a "TWA" (Teeny Weeny Afro)?

If he wore those knitted caps over some sort of wig/hair appliance for a few months he could've definitely come back with a "TWA" without being seen bald.

Dammit, now I'm getting teary thinking about P trying to maintain his business, retain his dignity, maintain his privacy, maintain a modicum of a life...He was going through it thee past few years, really going through it...And it makes me so sad that he seemed to have orchestrated it to go through it mostly alone.

After enduring the Prince and Andy Allo thread, I thought she was the one who encouraged him to let his hair go natural. Hmmm ... I was surprised that, near the end, his hair was not perfectly shaped - it was uneven. But then, he stopped wearing the perfectly tailored clothing, too.

Lol

I've heard a few gals say they "encouraged" P to go natural...And while I can see from the influx of gals with 'fros during a specific time period, I don't know if I beleive they were the ONLY reason behind P going natural.

I suspect he decided to do it for his own reasons then decided to surround himself with people on the same path.

He could have had liver damage from taking pain meds.

AIDS drugs can also lead to organ damage/failure either directly or as a side-effect of other conditions going on along with the disease itself. An example of that is vasculitis.

I've even heard folks say the 'fro was a wig or looked like a wig.

That was something I'd also said about his hair.

[Edited 12/5/16 11:53am]

LBrent said:

1Sasha said:

After enduring the Prince and Andy Allo thread, I thought she was the one who encouraged him to let his hair go natural. Hmmm ... I was surprised that, near the end, his hair was not perfectly shaped - it was uneven. But then, he stopped wearing the perfectly tailored clothing, too.

Lol

I've heard a few gals say they "encouraged" P to go natural...And while I can see from the influx of gals with 'fros during a specific time period, I don't know if I beleive they were the ONLY reason behind P going natural.

I suspect he decided to do it for his own reasons then decided to surround himself with people on the same path.

Dress like the people around you and he went with rock so he could dress down. I do not see anyone spending money on suits and hair if they are dealing with health issues. Your money and time is going to health problems and you are not getting out like you use to.

Read the GQ mag article and what Kandance Spring said about how small and plain his living quarters were. He had downsized his life but was sitting on 50 million real estate.

laurarichardson said:

LBrent said:

Lol

I've heard a few gals say they "encouraged" P to go natural...And while I can see from the influx of gals with 'fros during a specific time period, I don't know if I beleive they were the ONLY reason behind P going natural.

I suspect he decided to do it for his own reasons then decided to surround himself with people on the same path.

Dress like the people around you and he went with rock so he could dress down. I do not see anyone spending money on suits and hair if they are dealing with health issues. Your money and time is going to health problems and you are not getting out like you use to.

Read the GQ mag article and what Kandance Spring said about how small and plain his living quarters were. He had downsized his life but was sitting on 50 million real estate.

Exactly.

I saw that, too, about his private living quarters.

What stood out to me wasn't the size of the bed or the room or whatever cuz I could totally see that. What difference does it make if your personal space isn't huge?

You own the whole building which is huge!

What struck me was that P let her borrow his hairdryer and I thought Oh, he's doing his own hair these days! OK.

Ok, I finally got the podcast to work. Yay!

Tyka's talking about her CD called A Brand New Me which was released 2008 so this leads me to beleive the podcast was around 2008 or so cuz she was talking about touring.

In videos of P performing, I don't notice much odd about that time period.

Unless he was in the very early stages of something and was undergoing treatment and that treatment was successful at the time???

It might not be that he was even sick that soon, but even if he was he looked healthy to me.

But even if he was in the early stages of whatever and treatment either "cured" him or made him healthy enough to fuction as usual whatever could've been in remission then returned in later years but could've been more aggressive and untreatable that later go 'round...leading to where we all ended up in April.

Thoughts?