sonshine said:

sonshine said:

zenarose said:

http://www.pressherald.com/2016/05/04/report-prince-tried-to-meet-with-doctor-before-death/

From San Francisco to Minneapolis it's about a 3 hour flight give or take a few.

THIS is a perfect example of folks here picking apart any little insignificant detail looking for reasons to make Prince's death look suspicious. It's just plain crazy how people read into things and try to make something out of nothing.

I am not being argumentative here but I'd like to respectfully ask what it is that you are implying? I provided a link and I searched to find the flight time between the 2 cities. What did I post that is inflamitory or untrue? ( as far as we know) There was nothing "picked apart" in my post. My honesty and integrity mean everything to me. I will not get dragged into a tit for tat with you.

laurarichardson said:

Noodled24 said:

oliviacamron said:

Notaclevername asked if I could post this link about Prince stating that the WB was satanic and observed bizarre sex parties/rituals. This came up in the "death thread", so I am posting it over here in the "conspiracy" thread, as to not upset anyone who doesn't want to hear about conspiracies.

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Now, I did not write this, so I'm not saying that it is MY belief or opinion, only sharing it, because someone asked me to.

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Personally speaking, it was said that Prince had completed 50-pages of his memoir and he was disclosing a lot of dirt about the music industry.

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The following is a book written by Greg Norton, titled: "Prince death Cult. Who killed Prince and why did they cover it up?"

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Here's the link:

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https://books.google.com/books?id=WyUaDAAAQBAJ&pg=PP1&lpg=PP1&dq=prince+death+cult+who+killed+prince+greg+norton&source=bl&ots=fXfKb0L5cj&sig=fn81Dm62QY2rht3kVF1mjJsIMos&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiCjIbD2YXQAhUEYJoKHQ59A2gQ6AEIMjAD#v=onepage&q=prince%20death%20cult%20who%20killed%20prince%20greg%20norton&f=false

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EDIT: I thought I might add this as well. Very interesting to know that Kubrick worked on the script for "Eyes Wide Shut" for 30-years, then he dies right before the film was released. Warner Brothers deleted a lot of original scenes, because they claimed it was to get it an "R" rating, but the original film has never been seen.....hmmm. Wonder why?

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http://illuminatiwatcher.com/illuminati-symbolism-and-analysis-of-eyes-wide-shut/

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OKAY....UPDATE: I did find something about sexual rituals from this website, which I have mentioned here before. Now, this person has a lot of information, but I'm not saying it is factual, so here goes.......

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The important thing is that during the early 1990s, Sinead ran in the secret homosexual HollyWeird Black Satanic Cult inner circles of Prince, Eddie Murphy and Arsenio Hall. At their HollyWeird(Eyes Wide Shut) Satanic mansion parties, it is said that they have a little demonic ritual something-something lesbian stuff (trauma based sexual abuse programming) for female initiates, too.

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In fact, Alex Jones [Welsh- Celtic] and shock jock Erich “Mancow” Muller claims that Prince was one of their fans. They say that Prince told them that they were the only ones telling the truth.[39] On May 13, 2016, Muller said on the above youtube video that Prince revealed to them that he had attended secret “Eyes Wide Shut” Satanic Rituals(frames 7:00- 7:15). Nevertheless, wherever Alex Jones shows up, I would be extremely cautious with all involved. They give you the popcorn TV drama and entertainment ILLUMINATI journalism, but no concrete answers or solutions.

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There is some pretty wild stuff here, so PROCEED WITH CAUTION:

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https://mindcontrolblackassassins.com/2016/06/09/president-barack-obama-prince-rogers-nelson-purple-reign-the-secret-order-of-the-black-sun-and-the-hermaphrodites/

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cloveringold85 said:

NotACleverName said:

cloveringold85 said:

Notaclevername asked if I could post this link about Prince stating that the WB was satanic and observed bizarre sex parties/rituals. This came up in the "death thread", so I am posting it over here in the "conspiracy" thread, as to not upset anyone who doesn't want to hear about conspiracies.

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Now, I did not write this, so I'm not saying that it is MY belief or opinion, only sharing it, because someone asked me to.

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Personally speaking, it was said that Prince had completed 50-pages of his memoir and he was disclosing a lot of dirt about the music industry.

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The following is a book written by Greg Norton, titled: "Prince death Cult. Who killed Prince and why did they cover it up?"

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Here's the link:

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https://books.google.com/books?id=WyUaDAAAQBAJ&pg=PP1&lpg=PP1&dq=prince+death+cult+who+killed+prince+greg+norton&source=bl&ots=fXfKb0L5cj&sig=fn81Dm62QY2rht3kVF1mjJsIMos&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiCjIbD2YXQAhUEYJoKHQ59A2gQ6AEIMjAD#v=onepage&q=prince%20death%20cult%20who%20killed%20prince%20greg%20norton&f=false

Unfortunately, this link only provided a snippet (three paras or so) of information contained in Greg Norton's book and did not address your comment. Could you provide a screenshot/photo of the page in your book that unequivocally details the statement made in your post (#860 on the "Information & Theories thread) as follows: Prince himself was even quoted saying that there was some weird shit that went on at WB parties; orgy's, satanic rituals Again, thanks in advance!

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Yes, that book only provide a snippet of information.

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Well, I've got my work cut out for me today, because it was an interview with Prince that I read a while back. I will have to do some digging and see what comes up. Please be patient with me.

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NotACleverName said:

NotACleverName said:

zenarose said:

Nooriginalusername said:

Yes to both of you in all comments, but particularly the statement I placed in bold. The accusations have gotten out of hand. It's very sad that those closest to him, who have lost the most, now have fans slandering their names and reputations.

NOORIGINALUSERNAME: Thank you for your kind words. I think that our deep discussions on this thread are being misunderstood. We discuss each person involved and different scenarios. Researching and providing links and comparing reports and articles. We are just discussing things as we see them. As far as saying flat out that we are absolutely sure of this or that, I can't recall that being the case. The folks on this thread are able to discuss things without being rude and over bearing. We feel comfortable with being honest and sharing our thoughts. We can discuss anything from the occult to murder, to whatever, and that's ok. That's what this thread is about. We are all driven to find the truth. Surely you have to admit that this case is very strange. We are only human. There is no right or wrong here as we know nothing for sure. We cannot just close our eyes and forget that Prince is gone and go on our merry way not caring about what happened and not be bothered by it. There are those that expect that from everyone and it is IMPOSSIBLE. Sometimes discussions are a good way to work through a loss.

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Very true!

MMJas said:

Noodled24 said:

I also don't recall any threads on the org about how Prince looked ill. It was never mentioned prior to his death.

Can anyone find a report from the Grammys 2015 published before he died, saying Prince looked frail & unwell?

I understand what you're getting at. But really, no one is gonna publically say someone looks ill, right?
I have a friend who had been looking ill lately. Nobody mentions it. She posts pics on FB and I'm pretty sure she is wearing a wig and has had her eyebrows either painted or tattoed. I did not have the courage to ask her, so I asked a friend we have in common if she noticed anything different about her. She simply replied she had changed her hairstyle, but that was about that: It was really bugging me so i decided to ask her personally. She told me she suffers from a disease that made all her hair fall off and had to tatto her eyebrows and wears a short wig.
My point is: not everybody notices and those who do do not comment on these things, at least not publically.

I think when you're a celebrity, there are branches of the media who do nothing but talk about peoples appearance. It's very different to the situation you described. If he'd been frail or ill looking it would have come up prior to his death.

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cloveringold85 said:

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All very good questions. All we need to do is find the missing pieces to the puzzle.

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I think TMZ had the lead on all these stories, because they are owned by WB. They are all in cahoots!!

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I also think that someone who was in Prince's "inner circle" is feeding a lot of this BS to TMZ!!

Seems very possible....can't get over that tmz knew to be in moline, Ps plane was not supposed to land there. That one is very strange...the others are too but you would have to be tipped off to get that location and time correct!

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My intuition tells me that Prince was being followed in his last days. I read an article last week, it was someone's blog, so it was just based on theory, but the person said that there was someone tracking Prince when he was in Atlanta -- that's when it all went downhill.

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As time passes, and we have more time to think this tragedy through, more questions arise. Personally, I tend toward thinking he had some type of medical condition in addition to the prescription drug dependency. His appearance changed so dramatically in the last six months of his life ... I go back to what the chef's wife said: "they lied to us." She and her husband noticed changes in his behavior and appearance. Others around him had to have noticed and/or known something was going on. For all of the people who say he was fine, he was planning concerts in the future: the P + A M future dates were postponed, Glastonbury was never firmed up, the stadium opening show was never firmed up. He told Jon Bream he was having difficulty playing the guitar, and that was attributed to concentrating on the piano. Since when could Prince NOT play piano and guitar in the same show? I don't think he had the strength to play anything that last Saturday evening at Paisley Park - you don't think he wouldn't have loved to give that newly-gifted purple guitar a go, for at least a song or two? IMO he was failing, he knew it, and he was trying to deal with it in his own way. How he got the Fentanyl: I don't know. Was it a mistake, or did he ask someone to get Fentanyl specifically for him?

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All very sad how you worded that, but so true! Maybe Prince just accepted his fate and was ready to go? As much as I hate to think that was the case, it could very well be true.

laurarichardson said:

LBrent said:

Ok, last night I couldn't stop thinking about all this and I was thinking about the supposed hip surgery in 2010 or so. As a nurse, I've seen many times over the years that someone perfectly healthy goes for a simple procudre and once the doctors get in there they find cancer that no one even knew about.

What if that's what happened to P? What if that's why he sometimes looked bloated in the early 20teens cuz he was taking chemo drugs?

That would explain the pain meds...and something else that happened around that time period: P let his hair go natural. Could've been due to hair thinning or loss due to chemo.

Also, stomach issues...chemo.

If chemo had been unsuccessful by 2014, it's possible P told Tyka that and plans began in earnest for PP and preserving his legacy after his passing.

As he got sicker and frailer, the P&M shows allowed P to continue performing without too much strenuous physicality. And let's not forget "goodbye" type speech in concert. And reconnecting with old comrades. And the sudden influx of his comfy yogawear, And finally starting his memoirs.

Thoughts?

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Everything you stated is very possible. It could be that his health was failing, and he accepted that this could be the end.

zenarose said:

If memory serves me correctly, the statements concerning P's looking ill were in hindsight and

seemed to have been most noticed when Vanity passed away.

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Yes, I think Prince was very distraught over the loss of Vanity (Denise). I read somewhere that Prince was seen sobbing at her funeral. Okay, I'm about ready to cry here!

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

zenarose said:

If memory serves me correctly, the statements concerning P's looking ill were in hindsight and

seemed to have been most noticed when Vanity passed away.

Agree with this It seems Denise's passing was not easy for him. The concert he did that night is emotional, like he was to upset to sing. His prinstagram post of the two hearts connected may have been how he felt. Loosing someone that meant a lot can have an impact on health and weight too.

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I agree.

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

zenarose said:

There were gradual changes from 2014. I think the changes were mostly attributed to aging, although his attire changed also. There have always been comments about weight loss through the years. It seems the weight loss was noticed mid 2015 to 2016. Of course hair style change made a huge difference also. Below is a link that contains a photo spread of P and KJ at the airport in St. Barts 12/30/2015. He performed at a private New Years Eve party. You can see that he is very thin.

http://www.justjared.com/2016/01/01/prince-performs-at-star-studded-new-years-bash/

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Thanks for posting that link. He looks good to me in those pics! Remember he had mentioned he gets motion sickness he looks better than I would. I saw him face to face in 04 he was just as small, looking at his arms and legs...he was a petite boned person who literally when on stage filled it up! His hair did not look good on him, if he still had his older style he would have looked great being he was 57.

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Yes, and a lot of people here have stated also that P's fro made him appear older than he was.

zenarose said:

http://www.pressherald.com/2016/05/04/report-prince-tried-to-meet-with-doctor-before-death/

From San Francisco to Minneapolis it's about a 3 hour flight give or take a few.

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Stuart Gitlow, an addiction medicine expert speaking without direct knowledge of Prince’s case, questioned whether Howard Kornfeld and his son acted appropriately.

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“If a physician feels that a patient is having an emergency, his obligation is to call an ambulance and get the patient to emergency personnel who can assess the situation – not to fly to the patient,” Gitlow said.

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“It’s not routine for doctors to fly across the country to start people on buprenorphine,” said Gitlow, a past president of the American Society of Addiction Medicine and a faculty member of the University of Florida. “That’s something that can be handled locally.”

cloveringold85 said:

PurpleDiamonds1 said:

zenarose said: Thanks for posting that link. He looks good to me in those pics! Remember he had mentioned he gets motion sickness he looks better than I would. I saw him face to face in 04 he was just as small, looking at his arms and legs...he was a petite boned person who literally when on stage filled it up! His hair did not look good on him, if he still had his older style he would have looked great being he was 57.

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Yes, and a lot of people here have stated also that P's fro made him appear older than he was.

I'm wondering if he was mirroring Andy, JH, and MB. Sometimes his hairstyles looked a bit like TH's.

It is just a thought.

oliviacamron said:

zenarose said:

There were gradual changes from 2014. I think the changes were mostly attributed to aging, although his attire changed also. There have always been comments about weight loss through the years. It seems the weight loss was noticed mid 2015 to 2016. Of course hair style change made a huge difference also. Below is a link that contains a photo spread of P and KJ at the airport in St. Barts 12/30/2015. He performed at a private New Years Eve party. You can see that he is very thin.

http://www.justjared.com/2016/01/01/prince-performs-at-star-studded-new-years-bash/

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Just wanted to add something from my experience. In March, I contracted to Pneumonia for the first time. I had the flu that turned into Pneumonia. I had a flu vaccine but vaccines lat year were ineffective( early batch). I know this because medical staff at my dr office also contracted the flu that turned into Pneumonia. There was something about that particular strain of flu . I lot A Lot of weight because all my body craved was fruit and vegetables. That Pneumonia lasted 4 weeks with 2 rounds of antibiotics. I was prescribed lots of opioids to stop coughing. I'm not saying Prince really had the flu/ Pneumonia that was going around but it is very very possible and would cause just about anybody to loose some weight. If he was curbing opioids he may have got back on them to be able to perform his tour dates. The only thing is with Pneumonia, you gonna cough. He sang beautifully. If someone wanted to help him with his demise, during this period when have been an opportunity.

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Olivia: I'm sorry you were so ill with Pneumonia & glad you are doing better. I know, getting sick like that really knocks you on your arse! And like you said, Prince didn't really seem ill with the flu/pneumonia, and it was stated that he was treated for dehydration -- and that could have been from withdrawls from the meds, but he didn't seem to really display withdrawl symptoms, or he was just still trying to shake the effects of flu????

zenarose said:

sonshine said:

zenarose said: THIS is a perfect example of folks here picking apart any little insignificant detail looking for reasons to make Prince's death look suspicious. It's just plain crazy how people read into things and try to make something out of nothing.

I am not being argumentative here but I'd like to respectfully ask what it is that you are implying? I provided a link and I searched to find the flight time between the 2 cities. What did I post that is inflamitory or untrue? ( as far as we know) There was nothing "picked apart" in my post. My honesty and integrity mean everything to me. I will not get dragged into a tit for tat with you.

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Zena: I agree with you. I think that Sonshine is reading into something that's not there. I read the article and I understand it, completely, and I understood the point you were making.

NotACleverName said:

laurarichardson said:

I think the only reason people are saying it was planted was because of the unnamed source saying that the pills were laying around in the black bag and that other bottles were found in his private dressing area. Everybody who know Prince said he was super neat so why would he have pilll laying around in a bag. Why did Romero the body guard say he packed P's bag everyday except for that last week and never saw drugs. Why are so many people who interacted with him on a daily basis saying they never saw him high? More importantly if he was seeing Dr. S for withdrawals and felt well enought to travel to Australia he must have beaten his addication to the pills and what he thought he was taking was quite mild. He does not fit the narravative of someone who was feening for drugs so bad that he purposely took Fentanyl. So we understand why the ME said accidental but now the police are saying they are looking for potential witnesses.

Witnesses to what if this was accidental? Nothing make sense.

What Noodled24 noted (I bolded) and how it relates to what laura noted (I bolded). As reported in the ST: ( http://www.startribune.co...390850001/ ) "About a dozen tablets were found in a dressing room at Paisley Park, but the vast majority was in bottles of aspirin and Vitamin C that had been tucked inside a suitcase and bags — including one Prince often carried with him. Some pills were also found loose in the bag, the official said." The bag in question COULD POSSIBLY BE Prince's personal bag which might have contained writing tablets, pencils, gum, laptop/tablet, etc.; therefore, it was NOT packed on the regular. The fact that bottles were "tucked" (reporter's opinion so is up for interpretation, nonetheless) inside a suitcase and bags, lends the thought that these might have been added after the bags were packed. By Prince himself? Plausible. It fits.....for me! Noodled24 said:

The only thing that strikes me as being unusual, is Prince carrying his own bag.

Either way, I don't see anything definitive. He's always been that skinny MF with the high voice.

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Just my opinion here, but I don't find anything unusual at all with Prince carrying his own personal bag, especially when he is traveling without his entourage.

laurarichardson said:

NotACleverName said:

Well the problem is that this info is coming from un named sources and things can be open to be written up anyway the writer wants to when people don't want there name used. Anna Fantastic said the Daily Mail up a whole interview with her that did not take place. Dez said CNN put comments on their website he did say and a few associates don't want to talk the media at all.

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Yes, it's really bad what the media does, this is why they can't be trusted. They will take a few words and twist it around to say something completely different.

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If only we could read Prince's memoirs, then we would all know the truth!!

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cloveringold85 said:

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Yes, and a lot of people here have stated also that P's fro made him appear older than he was.

I'm wondering if he was mirroring Andy, JH, and MB. Sometimes his hairstyles looked a bit like TH's.

It is just a thought.

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Interesting you say that, because I have thought the very same thing! See, we think alike!

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Prince was working with Judith Hill (fro) & Candace Spring (fro), and yes, I can see the similarity he had with Tamron Hall too!.

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cloveringold85 said:

laurarichardson said:

cloveringold85 said:

zenarose said:

I'm wondering if he was mirroring Andy, JH, and MB. Sometimes his hairstyles looked a bit like TH's.

It is just a thought.

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Interesting you say that, because I have thought the very same thing! See, we think alike!

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Prince was working with Judith Hill (fro) & Candace Spring (fro), and yes, I can see the similarity he had with Tamron Hall too!.

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Yes even Meron too!!

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cloveringold85 said:

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My intuition tells me that Prince was being followed in his last days. I read an article last week, it was someone's blog, so it was just based on theory, but the person said that there was someone tracking Prince when he was in Atlanta -- that's when it all went downhill.

I also get that same feeling. ///JMO\\\ When people bring up TN and Apples mention they knew something from 2014/2 yrs I think the both of them are referring to someone in his life that was not trustworthy. A Jublient Judas. Still not sure if it is a person or a company.

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Yea, and I keep thinking about what was going on in 2014 with Prince. He signed with WB and produced two more albums, then his last album he signed exlusively with Tidal. I looked at all P's releases, and you can see that after 2014, something drastically changed with his life:

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Check this out.......look from 2014--2016:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NPG_Records