wisdom7 said:

nursev said:

Continue to spin that then

Even if he had aids or some other illness, he died of a Fentanyl overdose, not aids or cancer. He took a potent dose of Fentanyl. I have a different theory. I believe the story that the drug dealer told in the article dated two days after Prince died. It makes a lot of sense and I don't believe anyone could make that good of a story up.

ARE YOU FOR REAL RIGHT NOW?

rogifan said:

Ack...I saw on FB that TMZ is calling it murder. I refuse to go to their website so I don't know if they actually know something or are just guessing that based on the Star Tribune and AP reports.

That's interesting. All I've got to say on that until I hear exactly how they worded that.

endiadj said:

CROWNS1 said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Exactly! I mean seriously, like WTF? So now we're supposed to believe that Prince brought clothes that he wasn't comfortable in, so he regularly wore them backwards...on purpose. And those closest to him never saw anything at all wrong with that?

If that is true that is seriously odd. but he wasn't Aspergers or anything....

I think that entire story is suspect and frankly, goofy. I'd like at least one or two other people close to Prince to corroborate that claim. If Prince disliked V-necks, he wouldn't buy them or wear them, period. Why would he when he could buy absolutely any clothing - clothing THAT HE LIKED - that he wanted?

It's sad to read so many derogatory posts about 'junkies'. ANYONE, and I mean ANYONE who is addicted to a drug to the point of buying it off the streets is a 'junkie'. Being rich and famous doesn't negate that fact. It was more than likely people in his inner circle giving him that same pass that allowed him to abuse the drug as long as he did and ultimately result in his death. There are PLENTY of 'junkies' out there who are still alive, and yet Prince wasn't a 'junkie'? (I hate the word junkie). I feel certain that no one, not the homeless man in the streets drunk all day, not the prostitute selling herself to get money for crack, not the rich rock star in his mansion using drugs...NO ONE, wakes up each day and says "I'm so glad to be an addict". So maybe if we used the word addict for EVERYONE, and just throw "junkie" out the window, we can be respectful to EVERYONE who suffers from addiction. First and foremost, Prince was human.

[Edited 8/22/16 14:38pm]

[Edited 8/22/16 14:39pm]

morningsong said:

rogifan said:

Ack...I saw on FB that TMZ is calling it murder. I refuse to go to their website so I don't know if they actually know something or are just guessing that based on the Star Tribune and AP reports.

That's interesting. All I've got to say on that until I hear exactly how they worded that.

The jist is "there will be no Conrad Murray-esq trial for P's murder."

mano said:

laurarichardson said:

endiadj said:

Cause we have fact that he died of a drug od and we don't have fact that he had aids/cancer, etc.

-- Dr. S is a critical care doctor not a pain mgmt doctor. Pain pills cause organ damage this is a fact for anyone taking them.

The last time I tried to offer some professional insight these people criticized the hell oughtta me for being a nurse so Im not even gonna attempt to go there

[Edited 8/22/16 14:40pm]

slowlywiltingflower said:

CROWNS1 said:

If that is true that is seriously odd. but he wasn't Aspergers or anything....

I think that entire story is suspect and frankly, goofy. I'd like at least one or two other people close to Prince to corroborate that claim. If Prince disliked V-necks, he wouldn't buy them or wear them, period. Why would he when he could buy absolutely any clothing - clothing THAT HE LIKED - that he wanted?

Exactly!

laurarichardson said:

endiadj said:

Cause we have fact that he died of a drug od and we don't have fact that he had aids/cancer, etc.

-- Dr. S is a critical care doctor not a pain mgmt doctor. Pain pills cause organ damage this is a fact for anyone taking them.

I thought the doc, the father, from cali also specialized in pain management.

[Edited 8/22/16 14:42pm]

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

nursev said:

laurarichardson said:

endiadj said: -- Dr. S is a critical care doctor not a pain mgmt doctor. Pain pills cause organ damage this is a fact for anyone taking them.

The last time I tried to offer some professional insight these people criticized the hell oughtta me for being a nurse so Im not even gonna atttempt to go there

The acetaminophen could have caused liver damage so it's not out of the question at all, depending on how long he took them and whether he ever took anything else that had Tylenol in it. You have to be so careful about that.

Not that you don't know that but I don't see why anyone would question it.

[Edited 8/22/16 14:43pm]

loveandkindness said:

Camille10 said:

She is no longer in rehab and she was only there for 3 weeks

I've been following her rehab and yes it's a sad one...I pray she can have the positive people around her to heal....yes she was a friend of our purple one and yes the same drug....when will there be a harvest for the world...

Chaka has been doing drugs with Natalie, Melba and Whitney for ages. Since her will power is non- existent, her cerebral cortex or frontal lobe would need to be re-programmed. It's either that or there would need to be one of those "divine miracles" to stop it at this point.

teach49 said:

nursev said:

The last time I tried to offer some professional insight these people criticized the hell oughtta me for being a nurse so Im not even gonna atttempt to go there

The acetaminophen could have caused liver damage so it's not out of the question at all, depending on how long he took them and whether he ever took anything else that had Tylenol in it. You have to be so careful about that.

Im not even going there

laurarichardson said:

endiadj said:

Cause we have fact that he died of a drug od and we don't have fact that he had aids/cancer, etc.

-- Dr. S is a critical care doctor not a pain mgmt doctor. Pain pills cause organ damage this is a fact for anyone taking them.

Wasn't this Dr. Schulenberg treating Prince because Kirk referred him as it is also Kirk's doctor? Is Kirk critically ill?

[Edited 8/22/16 14:48pm]

nursev said:

endiadj said:

Cause we have fact that he died of a drug od and we don't have fact that he had aids/cancer, etc.

Continue to spin that then

Um, what am I spinning exactly? That's the fact that we know from the autopsy, the cause of death. Unless it's stated somewhere else that I don't know about, that you have privy to and the rest of us don't, then that's all that we know as fact.

if he was in late stages of aids or cancer, he would not be buying drugs on the street. hospice doctors dispense hardcore pain meds to keep people in these situations pain free, and they do not have to be in a hopsice facility, lots of people have hospice doctors come to their homes.if he was dying of a disease and in pain, he would not have been turned away by any doctor for pain meds. the fact that he was buying on the street tells me he did not have an underlying illness.

This is just my own speculation, but if Prince dressed himself and put his pants on backwards, maybe they were not the type of pants with a button and zipper, maybe they were like sweat pants with an elastic waist that can easily be turned backwards if he wasn't in control of his faculties. Hell, I've put my own draws on backward sober, and I'm an old broad. It's also easy to put a tshirt on backwards. I do that often too, but it feels funny, so I correct it.

What distresses me is that it was said that he appeared to have been dead at least six hours. That means he was probably in full rigormortis, which would have been very, very traumatic for his staff to see.

teach49 said:

nursev said:

The last time I tried to offer some professional insight these people criticized the hell oughtta me for being a nurse so Im not even gonna atttempt to go there

The acetaminophen could have caused liver damage so it's not out of the question at all, depending on how long he took them and whether he ever took anything else that had Tylenol in it. You have to be so careful about that.

Not that you don't know that but I don't see why anyone would question it.

[Edited 8/22/16 14:43pm]

Its the org and trust me they did...so Imma pass Let these non medical folks believe what they want

Dibblekins said:

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

Guess Arjuna doesn't wanna answer your questions.

I have been waiting several hours to use this emoji

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

laurarichardson said:

endiadj said: -- Dr. S is a critical care doctor not a pain mgmt doctor. Pain pills cause organ damage this is a fact for anyone taking them.

Wasn't this Dr. S. seeing Prince because Kirk referred him as it is also Kirk's doctor? Is Kirk critically ill?

That's what the initial reports said as well. Maybe he does family medicine, too? Sounds a bit odd to me, though, but who knows. Could be the early reports got it wrong.

nursev said:

teach49 said:

The acetaminophen could have caused liver damage so it's not out of the question at all, depending on how long he took them and whether he ever took anything else that had Tylenol in it. You have to be so careful about that.

Not that you don't know that but I don't see why anyone would question it.

[Edited 8/22/16 14:43pm]

Its the org and trust me they did...so Imma pass Let these non medical folks believe what they want

I believe you. Just don't understand why that, of all things, is hard to swallow.

nursev said:

CharlieGriffin said:

This is just my own speculation, but if Prince dressed himself and put his pants on backwards, maybe they were not the type of pants with a button and zipper, maybe they were like sweat pants with an elastic waist that can easily be turned backwards if he wasn't in control of his faculties. Hell, I've put my own draws on backward sober, and I'm an old broad. It's also easy to put a tshirt on backwards. I do that often too, but it feels funny, so I correct it.

What distresses me is that it was said that he appeared to have been dead at least six hours. That means he was probably in full rigormortis, which would have been very, very traumatic for his staff to see.

Yes but that is also why I don't understand why first responders would have begun performing CPR (as was stated in the warrant). Any trained paramedic or sheriff should be able to immediately realize he was gone.

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

laurarichardson said:

endiadj said: -- Dr. S is a critical care doctor not a pain mgmt doctor. Pain pills cause organ damage this is a fact for anyone taking them.

Wasn't this Dr. S. seeing Prince because Kirk referred him as it is also Kirk's doctor? Is Kirk critically ill?

There seems to be a lot of confusion as to what Schulenberg's specialty is. In April right after all this first transpired, I saw him reported as being a family practice/internal medicine doctor (which is what I found on Google when I looked him up) which would make sense if he was also Kirk's doctor. I've also seen him reported to be an 'intensivist'. Now I read he's a critical care doctor? (which I don't believe he is)

-

Here's a link to one of the review sites for him: http://www.vitals.com/doc...rg/reviews

teach49 said:

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

Wasn't this Dr. S. seeing Prince because Kirk referred him as it is also Kirk's doctor? Is Kirk critically ill?

That's what the initial reports said as well. Maybe he does family medicine, too? Sounds a bit odd to me, though, but who knows. Could be the early reports got it wrong.

It states he is a family practitioner, all around doc.

dupe

[Edited 8/22/16 14:58pm]

PurplePaisleyLuvr said: