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Reply #1770 posted 08/22/16 3:12pm

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laurarichardson said:

endiadj said:

It states he is a family practitioner, all around doc.

-- He is also listed on some sites as a critical care doctor on some sites. He is not a pain management doctor and he was bringing test results to Prince.

He is listed as that on ONE site. ONE sketchy, lacking-any-info (such as hospital affiliation, clinic location, credentials, picture) site. Please show links to sites that list him as anything but a primary care/family medicine doctor. Thanks.

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Reply #1771 posted 08/22/16 3:12pm

teach49

slowlywiltingflower said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Where did this information come from that Dr. S is a critical care doctor?

If you search 'Michael Schulenberg' MN md, the sites that come up first all say he's a "primary care" or "family practice" or "family medicine" doctor. but I just found ONE site that lists him as an "intensivist", which if you look that up is defined as a critical care doctor. I don't know how accurate that site is that lists him as an intensivist though - there's no picture, no hospital or clinic affiliation, nothing. no real info at all. Just lists him as a provider in Waconia, MN. I don't think that's a very accurate or reliable site but probably someone searched him, saw that site and that's where that bit of 'info' started. jmo

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Link: http://www.wellness.com/d...d#referrer

Thank you for clearing that up. At least we found the source of the info.

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Reply #1772 posted 08/22/16 3:13pm

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

teach49 said:

Thanks for solving that mystery. Crazy place this thread.

intensivist means that he has had extra training in a critical care filed at some point, it does not mean that he was a critical care doctor, he was practicing general medicine

Ah, good to know. I wondered about that.

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Reply #1773 posted 08/22/16 3:16pm

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teach49 said:

slowlywiltingflower said:

If you search 'Michael Schulenberg' MN md, the sites that come up first all say he's a "primary care" or "family practice" or "family medicine" doctor. but I just found ONE site that lists him as an "intensivist", which if you look that up is defined as a critical care doctor. I don't know how accurate that site is that lists him as an intensivist though - there's no picture, no hospital or clinic affiliation, nothing. no real info at all. Just lists him as a provider in Waconia, MN. I don't think that's a very accurate or reliable site but probably someone searched him, saw that site and that's where that bit of 'info' started. jmo

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Link: http://www.wellness.com/d...d#referrer

Thank you for clearing that up. At least we found the source of the info.

All the talk swirling around is so confusing! Laurarichardson says there are more sites that list this Dr. S as an intensivist, but I sure haven't come across any other one than that one site I linked to, so I hope she can provide where else she's seen him listed as a critical care doctor or whatever. it's hard enough to digest everything without muddying things with misinformation/misunderstanding!

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Reply #1774 posted 08/22/16 3:16pm

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laurarichardson said:

mano said:

He was a stone cold drug addict. There, I said it again. Tons of pills, some synthetic. I don't care what led him down that path, that's how it ended. Your personal story didn't end up with you having hundreds of pills lying around your house and you overdosing did it? You don't decide what is foolish commentary. I have a right to my opinion and freedom of speech. Don't you dare tell me what I can and can not say again.

-- No one said he 100 hundreds of pills. We can have the mods make your comments disappear since you don't give a crap about whatever pain he might have been in. I smell a troll.

And I was referring to the dumbass cartoon bubbles on the video I linked to as foolish commentary.

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Reply #1775 posted 08/22/16 3:17pm

JoeTyler

horrible, just horrible

horrible if he got the drugs by himself

horrible if trusted "friends" got the drugs as a favour to the man

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Reply #1776 posted 08/22/16 3:18pm

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CharlieGriffin said:

PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

Yes but that is also why I don't understand why first responders would have begun performing CPR (as was stated in the warrant). Any trained paramedic or sheriff should be able to immediately realize he was gone.

I thought of that too, but maybe they did it in hopes that there was some glimmer of hope left and to appease the witnesses. If they just loaded him on the stretcher without attempting any life saving measures, witnesses might have claimed EMTs did nothing to help and contributed to his death. Whatever happened is going to be discussed ad infinitum.

Except one of the witnesses was Dr. Kornfeld's son who told the 911 dispatcher Prince was dead. But I guess that doesn't mean Kirk or Meron wouldn't have been insisting on CPR. Not likely I wouldn't think, if he was in full rigor.

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Reply #1777 posted 08/22/16 3:19pm

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Oh man. I take a break from the org for a bit and come back to this. Wouldn't the original press conference by the law officials have mentioned this? The backward clothes etc? He just said he was dressed. So confused here. sad

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Reply #1778 posted 08/22/16 3:22pm

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Marrk said:

Oh man. I take a break from the org for a bit and come back to this. Wouldn't the original press conference by the law officials have mentioned this? The backward clothes etc? He just said he was dressed. So confused here. sad

The Sheriff was leaving out the salacious details which have apparently now been leaked from "sources close to the investigation." wink wink

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Reply #1779 posted 08/22/16 3:22pm

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SpinsterSister said:

New Year's Party 2015

Prince:

Can we finally admit that he was not just frail, he was very frail in that top pic. People keep saying "he was always thin" yeah no kidding, but look at his stance, his face, even how he is walking. I'm sorry but Prince was having health issues and we missed these signs.


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Reply #1780 posted 08/22/16 3:23pm

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Marrk said:

Oh man. I take a break from the org for a bit and come back to this. Wouldn't the original press conference by the law officials have mentioned this? The backward clothes etc? He just said he was dressed. So confused here. sad


Seems like the only time we ever get info is when something is leaked by a different source, once the investigators hear about the leak, then they release their version of it.

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Reply #1781 posted 08/22/16 3:24pm

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lastdecember said:

SpinsterSister said:

New Year's Party 2015

Prince:

Can we finally admit that he was not just frail, he was very frail in that top pic. People keep saying "he was always thin" yeah no kidding, but look at his stance, his face, even how he is walking. I'm sorry but Prince was having health issues and we missed these signs.


I see a giant afro that is making his face and body 'seem' thinner than it actually is

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Reply #1782 posted 08/22/16 3:24pm

teach49

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loveandkindness said:

Ya know Prince did not die of a hydrocodone overdose...Prince died of a fentenyal overdose from pills marked WATSON. This manufacture has had problems in the past it's totally possible these pills were a quality control issue at the manufacturing plant...that produces both drugs....kinda like peanuts in the soy butter... NOw Prince could have had a prescription from any other Doctor than his home state ... Or perhaps these pills were made from some black market Chinese drug lab and stamped Watson at buyers request or sellers request for obvious reasons....Prince was seeking help and what my heart tells me he was trying to manage..he was not in good health but people until the day he passed over he loved his fans, he loved his musicians his family and he loved God. My hugs are to each and everyone of you and his family. Today I choose Harvest for the World by the Isley brothers as my song pic of the day...

Phizer and any other major pharna is not going to mislabel drugs and allow them to be out there..Stop moving the onus off of him

Like it or not, the people who supplied him the mislabeled pills have committed a crime, whoever they are. And if the authorities build a case, they will be charged, possibly indicted, and possibly sent to jail. So, yes, Prince may have taken drugs from an illicit source (these are news reports, remember, not official LE statements) and that is taking a risk, but it doesn't mean in any way, shape, or form that no one else bears responsibility.

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Reply #1783 posted 08/22/16 3:25pm

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I knew I remembered seeing something about this a while ago, but when one goggles it, there's always some article that starts talking about the illegal drug trade mixed in with the whole counterfeit pills thing, no wonder people are making certain associations.


This article is dated 2011, and it's not talking about heroin, or cocaine or stuff like that, this is about the counterfeit pharmacutical trade and how bad it can be.

http://www.cbsnews.com/ne...eit-drugs/




According to Clark, counterfeit Pfizer drugs - many from disgusting conditions like the primitive courtyard in Lima - have made their way to pharmacies and hospitals in at least 46 different countries, including England, Canada, and the United States.

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Reply #1784 posted 08/22/16 3:26pm

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lastdecember said:

SpinsterSister said:

New Year's Party 2015

Prince:

Can we finally admit that he was not just frail, he was very frail in that top pic. People keep saying "he was always thin" yeah no kidding, but look at his stance, his face, even how he is walking. I'm sorry but Prince was having health issues and we missed these signs.

Drugs/painkiller addiction/dependency will do this to you.

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Reply #1785 posted 08/22/16 3:31pm

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It's obvious something was wrong. I think he still looked OK in 2014 but started to go downhill in 2015 and certainly did not look well in 2016. If it was the painkillers he was taking that caused this then it makes me even more certain it was not a long term dependency. But it also makes me wonder if he had some illness we don't know about. It seems baffling to me that he would all of a sudden start popping painkillers for no reason.
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Reply #1786 posted 08/22/16 3:33pm

LBrent

nursev said:



rogifan said:


nursev said:

Somebody knew he was sick and dying and gave him those damn pills so the world would say he died a drug addict. Break down his character and his legacy.



Well apparently TMZ isn't afraid to throw out the murder card....oh my.

I hate TMZ, but so far they havent been wrong neutral



Erm. TMZ finally threw their hat in the ring after weeks of silence?

As much as I distrust them, I think it's safe to say that sh*t just got real.
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Reply #1787 posted 08/22/16 3:35pm

lwr001

teach49 said:

lwr001 said:

Phizer and any other major pharna is not going to mislabel drugs and allow them to be out there..Stop moving the onus off of him

Like it or not, the people who supplied him the mislabeled pills have committed a crime, whoever they are. And if the authorities build a case, they will be charged, possibly indicted, and possibly sent to jail. So, yes, Prince may have taken drugs from an illicit source (these are news reports, remember, not official LE statements) and that is taking a risk, but it doesn't mean in any way, shape, or form that no one else bears responsibility.

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So, they gonna go re arrest El Chapo for Prince's death..or someoen else in the Juarez Cartel..Dealers cut their product regualarly to maximize product . Case in point, the kid who took the ddrugs and ended up eating the fae of parents last week in Florida,, The drugs may have been fucked yet he knowingly took the drug regardless of the content

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Reply #1788 posted 08/22/16 3:36pm

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teach49 said:

lwr001 said:

Phizer and any other major pharna is not going to mislabel drugs and allow them to be out there..Stop moving the onus off of him

Like it or not, the people who supplied him the mislabeled pills have committed a crime, whoever they are. And if the authorities build a case, they will be charged, possibly indicted, and possibly sent to jail. So, yes, Prince may have taken drugs from an illicit source (these are news reports, remember, not official LE statements) and that is taking a risk, but it doesn't mean in any way, shape, or form that no one else bears responsibility.


Yeah...good luck trying to prosecute a Chinese manufacturer of phony narcotics.

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Reply #1789 posted 08/22/16 3:37pm

rogifan

LBrent said:

nursev said:



rogifan said:


nursev said:

Somebody knew he was sick and dying and gave him those damn pills so the world would say he died a drug addict. Break down his character and his legacy.



Well apparently TMZ isn't afraid to throw out the murder card....oh my.

I hate TMZ, but so far they havent been wrong neutral



Erm. TMZ finally threw their hat in the ring after weeks of silence?

As much as I distrust them, I think it's safe to say that sh*t just got real.

I guess that article just said under Minnesota law whoever gave him those mislabeled drugs could be charged with 3rd degree murder.
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Reply #1790 posted 08/22/16 3:38pm

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endiadj said:

lastdecember said:

Can we finally admit that he was not just frail, he was very frail in that top pic. People keep saying "he was always thin" yeah no kidding, but look at his stance, his face, even how he is walking. I'm sorry but Prince was having health issues and we missed these signs.

Drugs/painkiller addiction/dependency will do this to you.

he was 112 when he died, he told oprah his waist size was 27 when he was healthy, which is incredibly tiny for a man. how much do we think he weighed then? we have seen his clothes for sale, they are tiny, i am just saying the weight loss was not that great, he had definarlty lost some weight, but this is what you look like when you don't have much to loose in the first place

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Reply #1791 posted 08/22/16 3:40pm

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

endiadj said:

Drugs/painkiller addiction/dependency will do this to you.

he was 112 when he died, he told oprah his waist size was 27 when he was healthy, which is incredibly tiny for a man. how much do we think he weighed then? we have seen his clothes for sale, they are tiny, i am just saying the weight loss was not that great, he had definarlty lost some weight, but this is what you look lie when you don't have much to loose in the first place

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Reply #1792 posted 08/22/16 3:40pm

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laurarichardson said:

mano said:

Who said they thought he was taking 100 a day? These were drugs, some of them apparently synthetic and many quite dangerous. He should not have been taking this stuff at all without being managed by a doctor which he clearly was not. Our ecucational system? How about basic reading comprehension?

--- You said pills everywhere. Where did it say that in the article? It gave a specific number of pills with some lying in a bag. I believe the total was close to 90 has in a ninety day supply. He was not running a pill factory out of PP. I would think common sense would tell you had some experience with these pills to have a 90 day supply. I would not be surprised if had an Rx at one time and felt he could manage it.

tht amount of pills is nothing. hell i have two scrips each a qty of NINETY for a THIRTY DAY supply. guess im gonna have some folks labeling me an addict. wtf

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Reply #1793 posted 08/22/16 3:45pm

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lwr001 said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

he was 112 when he died, he told oprah his waist size was 27 when he was healthy, which is incredibly tiny for a man. how much do we think he weighed then? we have seen his clothes for sale, they are tiny, i am just saying the weight loss was not that great, he had definarlty lost some weight, but this is what you look lie when you don't have much to loose in the first place

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He was known to always be around 120lbs

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Reply #1794 posted 08/22/16 3:45pm

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leadline said:

lastdecember said:

Can we finally admit that he was not just frail, he was very frail in that top pic. People keep saying "he was always thin" yeah no kidding, but look at his stance, his face, even how he is walking. I'm sorry but Prince was having health issues and we missed these signs.


I see a giant afro that is making his face and body 'seem' thinner than it actually is

Yes that FRO makes a big difference! Also a huge difference in his, er...clothing in these two pics.

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Reply #1795 posted 08/22/16 3:47pm

lwr001

leadline said:

lastdecember said:

Can we finally admit that he was not just frail, he was very frail in that top pic. People keep saying "he was always thin" yeah no kidding, but look at his stance, his face, even how he is walking. I'm sorry but Prince was having health issues and we missed these signs.


I see a giant afro that is making his face and body 'seem' thinner than it actually is

the guy in the flip flops at the bottom looks like he is present and running shit..the guy up top looks confused and appears to be on a day pass with his handler

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Reply #1796 posted 08/22/16 3:49pm

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LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:



endiadj said:




lastdecember said:




Can we finally admit that he was not just frail, he was very frail in that top pic. People keep saying "he was always thin" yeah no kidding, but look at his stance, his face, even how he is walking. I'm sorry but Prince was having health issues and we missed these signs.



Drugs/painkiller addiction/dependency will do this to you.





he was 112 when he died, he told oprah his waist size was 27 when he was healthy, which is incredibly tiny for a man. how much do we think he weighed then? we have seen his clothes for sale, they are tiny, i am just saying the weight loss was not that great, he had definarlty lost some weight, but this is what you look like when you don't have much to loose in the first place

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Look at photos of him, say, starting with Musicology era up until late 2014 or 2015 and he looks normal no major change in appearance. But in the last year or so of his life he clearly did not look well. Hence why I think it's possible he had an illness. Or if not his dependency on painkillers was recent.
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Reply #1797 posted 08/22/16 3:50pm

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lwr001 said:

LOVESYMBOLNUMBER2 said:

he was 112 when he died, he told oprah his waist size was 27 when he was healthy, which is incredibly tiny for a man. how much do we think he weighed then? we have seen his clothes for sale, they are tiny, i am just saying the weight loss was not that great, he had definarlty lost some weight, but this is what you look lie when you don't have much to loose in the first place

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Right, if he wasn't able to eat or drink normally (per the chef), it doesn't take long for a person who is already small and thin to start looking frail.

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Reply #1798 posted 08/22/16 3:50pm

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PurplePaisleyLuvr said:

CharlieGriffin said:

I thought of that too, but maybe they did it in hopes that there was some glimmer of hope left and to appease the witnesses. If they just loaded him on the stretcher without attempting any life saving measures, witnesses might have claimed EMTs did nothing to help and contributed to his death. Whatever happened is going to be discussed ad infinitum.

Except one of the witnesses was Dr. Kornfeld's son who told the 911 dispatcher Prince was dead. But I guess that doesn't mean Kirk or Meron wouldn't have been insisting on CPR. Not likely I wouldn't think, if he was in full rigor.

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Good point. I forgot about Dr. Kornfeld's son being there. I thought it was just his two assistants who first found him. It just pains me thinking of that image...

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Reply #1799 posted 08/22/16 3:51pm

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lwr001 said:

leadline said:


I see a giant afro that is making his face and body 'seem' thinner than it actually is

the guy in the flip flops at the bottom looks like he is present and running shit..the guy up top looks confused and appears to be on a day pass with his handler

getting old is not for pussies, he is in his late 50's. and the hair just changed his entire suave presentaion.

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