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PrintableWhat a punch in the gut all over again. This made my heart break even more. He shouldn't be gone. He should be here, and it's a horrible horrible mistake. All those people out there who call him a junkie, we knew better. I'm not a human
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Moderators: thank you for changing the title of this thread. The focal point isn't really his clothing; it's the medications. | |
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Here's the problem everyone. The stigmatism of "labeling". Junkie, addict, dope fiend, whatever. Stop!!! These labels add to the problem because you sit there envisioning someone strung out of their mind in some alleyway. Open your eyes - that's not reality. We ALL have some crutch - coffee, cigarettes, gambling, etc. Everyday people - you, me, your neighbor, your teacher and so on..... Opioids are like nothing we've ever seen. More often than not, started for pain, doctors tightening up prescribing them and then forced to obtain them illegally. And heaven forbid you should reveal your problem or ask for help because you just might get "labeled" a junkie! Sick to death of it. Where are the people who were around him - sitting out there acting like they don't know anything - why? Oh, let's not tarnish his image cause he was "private". They can all F off. That's not friends - make your loved one's life count! I really don't want to offend anyone, I'm just so angry at how this probably happened and how it has been handled in the aftermath. Such bs. "Remember when you told me that love was touching souls?" ☔️ A Case of You ☔️ | |
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The one thing established conclusively by all the chatter on this thread: ignorance is potent fuel for conspiracy theories. | |
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My sister was given liquid lidocaine to numb pain from a galstone attack. I also had a friend given lidocaine to numb his esophagus due to a hernia. There is more than one use for it. Alprazolam, yes anxiety. I'm not a human
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nursev said: Truth of the matter is Prince is dead. He can't tell us what happened or speak up for himself and so far it appears that things are being kept hush hush and Prince has been demonized by the media labeled a drug addict rock star. Do you want the truth or not? The ST can turn over every damn rock in MN if that means finding out the truth about what really happened to Prince.  A sophisticated mass-produced cacophony of no-win situations that aren't right... | |
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wildgoldenhoney said: OperatingThetan said: The limited autopsy report provided to the press lists all the clothing Prince was wearing and this also includes a black over-shirt (worn over his grey shirt) and a black hat. These are exactly the same clothes Prince was pictured wearing outside the pharmacy. Unless Prince undressed, then put these clothes back on later, including hat and over-shirt, he was found in the clothing he'd been wearing during the day. Reports suggest he'd been agitated that day and had visited the hospital as an outpatient. If so, he may have needed to remove some of his clothing there. Regardless, it is very easy, however impeccable you usually are, to dress incorrectly when feeling ill, drowsy or distressed. As Prince was wearing a long over-shirt it would not necessarily have been visible to others that his shirt and trousers were on backwards. Do u know about any shoes? The report didn't state any footwear other than his socks. As he was indoors at the time and it now seems to transpire that he was mostly living at Paisley Park, this seems to make sense. We don't know where the elevators are in the building (Though some here might be more familiar?), but it has been mentioned in a few press reports that there was an elevator from his private apartment at Paisley and also one that lead to the vault, but these might be one and the same. | |
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anangellooksdown said: Moderators: thank you for changing the title of this thread. The focal point isn't really his clothing; it's the medications. Second that thank you on the title change. My take on the clothing thing could be that the EMT's removed his clothing to work on trying to save him. Could be with all the emotions running high, they inadvertently put them back on backward waiting for the coroner to arrive. "Remember when you told me that love was touching souls?" ☔️ A Case of You ☔️ | |
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XxAxX said: someone dressed him post-mortem????? now it sounds like he was assaulted. or, at least, not alone that night BINGO | |
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....5 pages 2 catch up on. Don't know if I even wanna  "We just let people talk & say whatever they want 2 say. 9 times out of 10, trust me, what's out there now, I wouldn't give nary one of these folks the time of day. That's why I don't say anything back, because there's so much that's wrong" - P, Dec '15 | |
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It's just so sad that Prince died. | |
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XxAxX said:
a friend of a friend of someone who worked at paisleyy park told me that the security system was not on when prince passed. they went out to hook it back up after his passing.... anyone might have had access to the park, if this is true Holy sh/t...W T F     | |
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I have a feeling it is too, and we are going to go ballistic over it. When I read this on Funkenberry on Twitter I felt ill, my heart sank. I just hope we will find out the truth ASAP so we can then focus on his talent and not these awful things Thank you Prince for every note you left behind 💜 | |
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strawberrylova123 said: anangellooksdown said: Well I think lidocaine is mostly used for pain. Lidocaine is the most important 1b Arrhthmiac drug, it's specifically used for cardiac ventricle. But it can aslo be used to numb pain. It's called ventricular Tachycardia, and its one of the most deadly cardiac arrhythmias and if it does not stop it will progress into ventricular fibrillation and death if not treated quickly (I know, I have been a cardiac monitor tech for 15 years). It depends on which type it was: topical (for use on skin for numbing and pain) or intravenously (for cardiac purposes) Too much of it can send the blood pressure spiraling way down though..... | |
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Remember his chef spoke of him having throat and stomach problems - apparently, P was having difficulty swallowing and wanted smoothies / soups all the time. IF P's Lidocaine was of the LIQUID variety rather than a patch, it could be for that...If it was a PATCH then that suggests it was for localised pain-relief of the external variety, such as his hips / knees, whatever. | |
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Most importantly: no matter what any report or news article says, our love, devotion and respect for Prince will not change. That being said, we have to be open to whatever any autopsy or other official report reveals, if that report is ever released for public review. Not for one second do I believe no one in his inner circle didn't know about any drugs - legal or otherwise - that he was taking. People knew. Prince was a human being with an incredible gift - a gift he worked very hard to develop and maintain. He brought joy to hundreds of millions of people in his lifetime. When Lenny Kravitz said he thought he knew the cause of death, when Sheila E. said she knew ... The one thing in the article which caught my attention was the statement that the local authorities were no longer actively investigating his death; they would put people on it if something new turned up, but it was not on their radar right now. It is being handled by the state and federal authorities. I would not want to be on the receiving end of that investigation. | |
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That s excatly the image I got.That he realized something was wrong and was getting confused and disoriented maybe even panicking,rushed to get dressed to get help and the drugs overpowered him in the elevator. ALONE. I read this thread right before bed and got so upset I just ended my computer time and went to bed only to keep waking up and thinking about him
This shit is pissing me off with all the twists and turns new discoveries etc. More and more I am feeling like we really are never going to get over this. Especially us who have rode with him through all the highs and lows since 1978.It feels like a part of the family is gone.That is pissing me off too. I hate the fact that a childhood celebrity crush passing way is having such an effect on me. I NEVER saw this coming.People die everyday and I certainly know he was going to die someday too. This right here.....this right here....is cutting deep. Iam forever heartbroken at the way he had to leave us. | |
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Now the image is his body and mind is so in shock he couldn't put his clothes on fast enough or correctly so he could get help!!! rogifan said: leadline said: Hopefully they will continue along the foul play path, because this news definitely plays towards that, along with all the other holes and inconsistencies over the last 4 months. [Edited 8/20/16 19:59pm] I don't buy it other than someone helped him obtain something illegally and it wasn't what he thought it was. I don't buy it just becaus the foul play would have to have come from someone in his inner circle and why would anyone in his inner circle want to take him out? Agreed it would have been from someone from the inner circle, but we don't know who they may have been working for. For enough money anyone might be capable of anything. This is sickening. For what ever reason, My poor baby did not deserve this. I feel So darn helpless and sad.  | |
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purplerabbithole said:
Wow he does not look like himself here at all! Omg I can't put my finger on it but he looks way off  | |
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You said everything right here.Iam soooo tired.I even stay away from the boards for a few days to give myself and break and what happens? BOOM!!! | |
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Anyone who has followed Prince knows there is something afowl here. The whole thing about clothes being on backward is setting off alarm bells to someone who teaches CSI. |
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Purplealegria7 said: purplerabbithole said:
Wow he does not look like himself here at all! Omg I can't put my finger on it but he looks way off Makeup seemed much heavier; especially the eyebrows in his later pics. If reports are true that opiates were involved, there is weight loss involved and a "look", especially around the eyes that is hard to describe or put your finger on. Ugh. "Remember when you told me that love was touching souls?" ☔️ A Case of You ☔️ | |
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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:
You are never going to hear anything official. They dont have enough to indict anyone. I doubt if they ever will. We will not let them forget that we want the truth! Just saw me in half.
You are right we will never get the truth here, unless someone uncovers a huge bomb, we just have to come to terms with that fact. It's just the injustice of it all, that's what kills me. Pray for a miracle guys, that somehow we get the right eyeballs on this and it breaks wide open. In the meantime we just have to go with our gut. And my gut has been telling me since the first day that something is not right here. Trust that. | |
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Terribly, terribly sad. "I like to watch." | |
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Of course he doesn't, the lighting is horrible, it's a frame that is not very flattering. I bet a few frames later he looked absolutely fine. We gotta stop taking these crappy pictures and making assumptions when the feet on the street (those close to him), and seeing him in real time, all have said nothing looked wrong. [Edited 8/21/16 6:39am] "You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013 | |
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"You always get the dream that you deserve, from what you value the most" -Prince 2013 | |
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Here's a thought (as if we didn't have enough already). Perhaps he wasn't alone. Perhaps someone else was there who had their own issues or had been the source for obtaining the pills. You think they would stick around to be interrogated or implicated? Nope. "Remember when you told me that love was touching souls?" ☔️ A Case of You ☔️ | |
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LBrent said: XxAxX said:
i guess taking a deep breath and stepping back wouldn't hurt. but almost everything about prince's passing has been a wtf right from the start. he allegedly took more pills after almost dying from them? he was all alone the night before someone flew out redeye to see him? a stranger called in the 911? the autopsy was conducted the very next day? cremation was that same afternoon? DEA investigation seized possession of PP? he was found in an elevator, like in the song? on april 21 again? clothing put on inside out and backward???? maybe i need to get out more but imo it's like some kind of freaky mystery story unfolding right before our dang eyes. Gurl, you ain't never lied. That's why I keep trying out possible scenarios on y'all cuz I'm trying to find one that makes sense, but my loved ones all keep patting me indulgently and repeating that he "took a drug overdose, face it". It really pisses me off cuz they don't seem to understand that there really is something else going on. [Edited 8/20/16 21:52pm] Right!! I feel the same way and nobody wants to hear it! We were talking about him again last night me and sister and mom, and I mentioned how messed up this is, and my mom said that "he is ok and he is happy now". And I rolled my eyes and said "he should still be here" and my sister said "he's much better off now than with the painful truth he was hiding all these years." I was so angry! In said I think it's all a bunch of SHIT and left it at that when she questioned me. Nobody wants to hear anything else, just the SHIT being fed to them. | |
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ForeverPaisley said:
I so hope he didn't suffer. Knowing he was alone is heartwrenching enough. But yes, i do think it seems like he was already gone, and IF he didn't put the clothes on himself in that frantic stupor, then yes, this would be why they did, for modesty. I love you baby, just not like I love this guitar.~Prince~ | |
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But I watched him perform in a clip on the internet (not gonna say where because I would like the footage to remain up) How Come U don't call me anymore? from the Piano and A Microphone tour. He sounded great but looked really bad. I don't mean just old or skinny. He's been pretty skinny in the past (mid 1990's) but his teeth seemed to be proturding out of his mouth, his neck looked really thin, his shoulder blades stuck out badly (even in loose clothes) and the effort to get through the song was apparent. He had energy and joy but the physical stamina seemed forced.
As for the condition of the afro, I assume that afro's are not always easy to maintain, but his looked pretty damn bad. I can't find a picture of that performance but his appearance was definitely worse than the picture I provided. I don't think you could find a flattering frame from that performance. [Edited 8/21/16 6:47am] | |
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