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Reply #420 posted 08/11/16 2:45pm

morningsong

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The 5 alleged kids, the woman secretly married in 2002, those who claimed John L. was not Prince's father, the claims of adoption and a few other claims. confuse

I'm a little confused (sorry). R these in or thrown out?

The judge laid it all out in the docs all the who's and why's and everything, the 5 kids have been ruled on (out), the secret marriage has been ruled on (out until proper evidence has been submitted), all claims regarding John L. not being his father have rulings(I got tired of reading that one), by the way all John's kids are getting DNA test. The 2 claiming Prince adopted them have been ruled on (out until proper evidence has been submitted). The guy about the $1billion is appealing so that'll take a minute.

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Reply #421 posted 08/11/16 3:00pm

NikkiED

I thought P's siblings has already taken a DNA test? I really hope there's no surprises with the results.

The Court is satisfied that Brianna Nelson and V.N. have made a prima facie showing that they are potential heirs of the Decedent. Therefore, the Court will order the genetic testing of Brianna Nelson, V.N., John Nelson, Norrine Nelson, Sharon Nelson and Tyka Nelson.

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Reply #422 posted 08/11/16 3:05pm

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morningsong said:

zoso1978 said:

The 5 alleged kids, the woman secretly married in 2002, those who claimed John L. was not Prince's father, the claims of adoption and a few other claims. confuse

I'm a little confused (sorry). R these in or thrown out?

The judge laid it all out in the docs all the who's and why's and everything, the 5 kids have been ruled on (out), the secret marriage has been ruled on (out until proper evidence has been submitted), all claims regarding John L. not being his father have rulings(I got tired of reading that one), by the way all John's kids are getting DNA test. The 2 claiming Prince adopted them have been ruled on (out until proper evidence has been submitted). The guy about the $1billion is appealing so that'll take a minute.

by the way all John's kids are getting DNA test.

Seems like a good idea, even just for a baseline & comparison.

Can't believe the $1billion crazy is still in the mix! disbelief

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Reply #423 posted 08/11/16 3:15pm

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nelcp777 said:



Mumio said:




morningsong said:



Yes, he did. I'm only going on rumors there's a child 6 & 7 so I don't know they don't ever seem to be mentioned in the court papers.

The property listing seem to be going along fine. Doesn't look like Prince had any other properties outside of MN except the Turks and Caicos one.




There was mention of child 6 and child 7 just recently, they had been added to the list. I will see if I can track down the specific paperwork.

ETA: what I actually came up with is claimants 1 through 7 in this document http://www.mncourts.gov/m...ator_1.pdf So I can't say child 6 and child 7 because they aren't being called that here.





[Edited 8/11/16 12:56pm]



Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't mean to put false information out, not my intentions.


/// I wonder what happened to 6 & 7? Maybe a clerical error
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Reply #424 posted 08/11/16 3:43pm

morningsong

laurarichardson said:

nelcp777 said:

Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't mean to put false information out, not my intentions.

/// I wonder what happened to 6 & 7? Maybe a clerical error

If you change child to claimants for genetic testing then you see that 6 & 7 are VN and Brianna.

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Reply #425 posted 08/11/16 4:02pm

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morningsong said:



laurarichardson said:


nelcp777 said:


Thanks for clearing that up. I didn't mean to put false information out, not my intentions.



/// I wonder what happened to 6 & 7? Maybe a clerical error

If you change child to claimants for genetic testing then you see that 6 & 7 are VN and Brianna.


--/ So that means no child heirs unless something was taken care of in a trust.
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Reply #426 posted 08/11/16 4:16pm

morningsong

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

If you change child to claimants for genetic testing then you see that 6 & 7 are VN and Brianna.

--/ So that means no child heirs unless something was taken care of in a trust.

Mumio already stated it was 7 heir claimants not 7 heir children, so the 5 claimants that were possible children have been dismissed, that leaves 2 possible heir claimants; VN and Brianna. Everything else is part of somebody else's rumor.

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Reply #427 posted 08/11/16 4:39pm

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The media is going to be so sad that there are no secret children. lol
Paisley Park is in your heart
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Reply #428 posted 08/11/16 4:53pm

morningsong

rogifan said:

The media is going to be so sad that there are no secret children. lol


I don't think you can put this all on the media this time.

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Reply #429 posted 08/11/16 5:12pm

Mkilpatrick74

morningsong said:



rogifan said:


The media is going to be so sad that there are no secret children. lol


I don't think you can put this all on the media this time.



Judge is definitely leaving the door open for future possible heirs, specifically those claiming to be child/children.
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Reply #430 posted 08/11/16 5:41pm

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This is an amended Order because the Judge left some people out of the first order which was filed July 29, 2016. The chart I previously prepared is at work so I cant give you the names right now but I was able to ascertain the names of the 5 individuals in the Judge's original order of July 29, 2016. That leaves 2 others of the original 7 claimants he previously discussed in a prior Order. I originally assumed 6, and 7 were Duane's daughter and granddaughter.

But I know for a fact Tony was not one of the 5 claimants I identified.

So I am assuming the Judge will rule separately as to the ones who took DNA testing.

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Reply #431 posted 08/11/16 5:52pm

morningsong

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

This is an amended Order because the Judge left some people out of the first order which was filed July 29, 2016. The chart I previously prepared is at work so I cant give you the names right now but I was able to ascertain the names of the 5 individuals in the Judge's original order of July 29, 2016. That leaves 2 others of the original 7 claimants he previously discussed in a prior Order. I originally assumed 6, and 7 were Duane's daughter and granddaughter.

But I know for a fact Tony was not one of the 5 claimants I identified.

So I am assuming the Judge will rule separately as to the ones who took DNA testing.

Well if there are 7 children, nobody is being specific about who these children are. I've counted 7 claimants who were supposed to take the DNA test. 2 of those did not have one because the were adopted. 3 did and have been dismissed as far as I can see. And the other 2 are pending which are Duane's heirs. If there's something different, break it down.


The Anthony guy, I don't know. I got him all confused with that newspaper and that separate lab that is supposed to have a sample of Prince's DNA. There's nothing specific about all that either just random bits of pieces that don't fit nowhere.

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Reply #432 posted 08/11/16 5:54pm

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http://www.startribune.com/seven-prince-properties-including-caribbean-villa-can-now-be-sold/389933291/

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Reply #433 posted 08/11/16 6:03pm

morningsong

XxAxX said:

http://www.startribune.com/seven-prince-properties-including-caribbean-villa-can-now-be-sold/389933291/

When Bremer last week requested permission to sell 16 of Prince's properties, it caused alarm that Paisley Park would be sold. But the special administrator was quick to offer assurances that Prince's home and recording studio would not be put on the market.



Meaning people went ballistic. wink

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Reply #434 posted 08/11/16 6:13pm

ISaidLifeIsJus
tAGame

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morningsong said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

This is an amended Order because the Judge left some people out of the first order which was filed July 29, 2016. The chart I previously prepared is at work so I cant give you the names right now but I was able to ascertain the names of the 5 individuals in the Judge's original order of July 29, 2016. That leaves 2 others of the original 7 claimants he previously discussed in a prior Order. I originally assumed 6, and 7 were Duane's daughter and granddaughter.

But I know for a fact Tony was not one of the 5 claimants I identified.

So I am assuming the Judge will rule separately as to the ones who took DNA testing.

Well if there are 7 children, nobody is being specific about who these children are. I've counted 7 claimants who were supposed to take the DNA test. 2 of those did not have one because the were adopted. 3 did and have been dismissed as far as I can see. And the other 2 are pending which are Duane's heirs. If there's something different, break it down.


The Anthony guy, I don't know. I got him all confused with that newspaper and that separate lab that is supposed to have a sample of Prince's DNA. There's nothing specific about all that either just random bits of pieces that don't fit nowhere.

I didnt see anything about 3 alleged children taking DNA test or are you talking about Duane's relatives along with Carlin? I didnt see anyone that was dismissed because of DNA testing. Shoot, I wish I brought my chart home!

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Reply #435 posted 08/11/16 6:24pm

luvsexy4all

morningsong said:

XxAxX said:

http://www.startribune.com/seven-prince-properties-including-caribbean-villa-can-now-be-sold/389933291/

When Bremer last week requested permission to sell 16 of Prince's properties, it caused alarm that Paisley Park would be sold. But the special administrator was quick to offer assurances that Prince's home and recording studio would not be put on the market.



Meaning people went ballistic. wink

why not sell content of vault ..

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Reply #436 posted 08/11/16 6:26pm

luvsexy4all

http://www.hotpress.com/Prince/news/Exclusive-Extract-From-Princes-New-Biography/17935945.html?new_layout=1&page_no=1&show_comments=1

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Reply #437 posted 08/11/16 6:32pm

morningsong

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

morningsong said:

Well if there are 7 children, nobody is being specific about who these children are. I've counted 7 claimants who were supposed to take the DNA test. 2 of those did not have one because the were adopted. 3 did and have been dismissed as far as I can see. And the other 2 are pending which are Duane's heirs. If there's something different, break it down.


The Anthony guy, I don't know. I got him all confused with that newspaper and that separate lab that is supposed to have a sample of Prince's DNA. There's nothing specific about all that either just random bits of pieces that don't fit nowhere.

I didnt see anything about 3 alleged children taking DNA test or are you talking about Duane's relatives along with Carlin? I didnt see anyone that was dismissed because of DNA testing. Shoot, I wish I brought my chart home!

You're right not through DNA testing. Child 1 was dismissed because they didn't have enough evidence showing they were adopted.

As CHILD l is not able to meet the clear and convincing standard for proving that he is an heir of the Decedent, the Court determines as a matter of law that CHILD 1 is not an heir of the Decedent’s estate. If CHILD 1 is able to provide further proof of the adoption, the Court may reconsider this Order.




Child 4 & 5 mothers didn't submit affidavits stating a relationship with Prince.

Further, neither CHILD 4 nor CHILD 5 have provided an affidavit from their mother indicating that the mother had a sexual relationship with the Decedent which resulted in their birth. They have, instead, relied on speculation or third-party conjecture as a basis for their claims.


http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Amended-Order-Re-Genetic-Testing-Protocol-and-Heirship-Claims-Following-the-June-27,-2016-hearing-and-Judgment.pdf


More stuff got posted.

1. The Special Administrator’s Motion to Dismiss the claims Of Rodney Dixon shall be heard based upon the written record alone, and shall be considered taken under advisement as of August 5,2016. 2. The hearing time reserved for oral arguments on September 7, 2016 shall be cancelled.


So I guess this means this goes away?




[Edited 8/11/16 18:45pm]

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Reply #438 posted 08/11/16 6:48pm

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Morningstar you're becoming quite the legal eagle in understanding these confusing pleadings!

Rodney Dixon didnt request an in person, oral hearing (which the Judge was going to allow) so now the Judge will rule based upon the memorandum and documents Rodney filed, and the Bremer Trust response.

I found this paragraph interesting the other day when the Judge ruled in part the following:

The Court, like the Special Administrator, is also mindful of the fact that the law does not foreclose the possibility of other heirs being identified in the future, including new claimants seeking to be determined the child of the Decedent.

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Reply #439 posted 08/11/16 6:50pm

Vee0319

morningsong said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:


This is an amended Order because the Judge left some people out of the first order which was filed July 29, 2016. The chart I previously prepared is at work so I cant give you the names right now but I was able to ascertain the names of the 5 individuals in the Judge's original order of July 29, 2016. That leaves 2 others of the original 7 claimants he previously discussed in a prior Order. I originally assumed 6, and 7 were Duane's daughter and granddaughter.


But I know for a fact Tony was not one of the 5 claimants I identified.


So I am assuming the Judge will rule separately as to the ones who took DNA testing.



Well if there are 7 children, nobody is being specific about who these children are. I've counted 7 claimants who were supposed to take the DNA test. 2 of those did not have one because the were adopted. 3 did and have been dismissed as far as I can see. And the other 2 are pending which are Duane's heirs. If there's something different, break it down.


The Anthony guy, I don't know. I got him all confused with that newspaper and that separate lab that is supposed to have a sample of Prince's DNA. There's nothing specific about all that either just random bits of pieces that don't fit nowhere.


I just reviewed the Interim order re: Estate Administration Following the Court's July 28, 2016 order filed today. Remember the Judge ordered any one tied to John L. Nelson's bloodline to have the DNA test. Tyka, John R. , Norrine, Sharon, Brianna and the minor VN. The first paragraph of this form states that one or more of those tested do not qualify as heirs under Minnesota law. So I think it is Duane's relatives (Brianna and VN.). It seems that Bremer does not want to continue to allow the Excluded Parties ( the July 28 exclusions) or tested Parties that are not related to Prince be privy to certain confidential information. So it looks like the heirs are back to what Tyka originally stated in her first affidavit. Any thoughts from you guys?
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Reply #440 posted 08/11/16 6:54pm

Vee0319

morningsong said:



ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:




morningsong said:



Well if there are 7 children, nobody is being specific about who these children are. I've counted 7 claimants who were supposed to take the DNA test. 2 of those did not have one because the were adopted. 3 did and have been dismissed as far as I can see. And the other 2 are pending which are Duane's heirs. If there's something different, break it down.


The Anthony guy, I don't know. I got him all confused with that newspaper and that separate lab that is supposed to have a sample of Prince's DNA. There's nothing specific about all that either just random bits of pieces that don't fit nowhere.



I didnt see anything about 3 alleged children taking DNA test or are you talking about Duane's relatives along with Carlin? I didnt see anyone that was dismissed because of DNA testing. Shoot, I wish I brought my chart home!



You're right not through DNA testing. Child 1 was dismissed because they didn't have enough evidence showing they were adopted.

As CHILD l is not able to meet the clear and convincing standard for proving that he is an heir of the Decedent, the Court determines as a matter of law that CHILD 1 is not an heir of the Decedent’s estate. If CHILD 1 is able to provide further proof of the adoption, the Court may reconsider this Order.







Child 4 & 5 mothers didn't submit affidavits stating a relationship with Prince.


http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Amended-Order-Re-Genetic-Testing-Protocol-and-Heirship-Claims-Following-the-June-27,-2016-hearing-and-Judgment.pdf


More stuff got posted.

1. The Special Administrator’s Motion to Dismiss the claims Of Rodney Dixon shall be heard based upon the written record alone, and shall be considered taken under advisement as of August 5,2016. 2. The hearing time reserved for oral arguments on September 7, 2016 shall be cancelled.


So I guess this means this goes away?






[Edited 8/11/16 18:45pm]


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Reply #441 posted 08/11/16 7:08pm

IchBinKunst

nelcp777 said:

I know it's only property and a house doesn't make a home, but it's making me feel so sad to see everything he worked so hard for being sold off and yeh, I know it's his fault for not having a damned will. Just makes it seem so final, his footprint of his life (obviously not his music and legacy) disappearing..... sad

Since reading the Omar clause, I am inclined to believe that the homes of Kirk and the siblings are not listed as well.

The other siblings don't have houses that were owned by Prince. Kirk's house and Larry's house are on the list to be sold.

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Reply #442 posted 08/11/16 7:11pm

IchBinKunst

laurarichardson said:

nelcp777 said:

It appears the judge has made his ruling in the heirs, pending DNA testing:

http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Amended-Order-Re-Genetic-Testing-Protocol-and-Heirship-Claims-Following-the-June-27,-2016-hearing-and-Judgment.pdf

The 5 alleged kids, the woman secretly married in 2002, those who claimed John L. was not Prince's father, the claims of adoption and a few other claims.

Duane's offspring can take the DNA test and then their heirship will be determined from the results.

Ths judge seemed to sum it up very well in his order. I am assuming cos the judge signed it, this is official, pending appeals?

There was not any mention of child 6 or 7, unless I missed it.

I would think that Duane's children would have their test by this time and was their a child 6 and 7?

Someone in the family needs to get a hold of Alfred his touring the properties holds up the sale and what does he need to tour them for? Does he have a background in Real Estate? He may have an attorney taking advantage of him.

He may want to buy one of the houses that are on the list to be sold.

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Reply #443 posted 08/11/16 9:37pm

morningsong

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Morningstar you're becoming quite the legal eagle in understanding these confusing pleadings!


Rodney Dixon didnt request an in person, oral hearing (which the Judge was going to allow) so now the Judge will rule based upon the memorandum and documents Rodney filed, and the Bremer Trust response.



I found this paragraph interesting the other day when the Judge ruled in part the following:


The Court, like the Special Administrator, is also mindful of the fact that the law does not foreclose the possibility of other heirs being identified in the future, including new claimants seeking to be determined the child of the Decedent.






Looks liks Rodney's brother filed the papers he was supposed to too late, so they'r ruling on what they have.

I see that all the sealed files become unsealed 20 days after this ruling.


I guess people are allowed to file whatever they want for as long as they want but if they don't have supporting proof they won't get far. Most of these are basically people not having supporting paperwork done.
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Reply #444 posted 08/11/16 9:51pm

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This is a post from the guy that shite 'newspaper' claimed was Prince's son (the one Dr. Funkenberry tweeted about being bombshell news) Anthony Steadman / Snow:

https://www.facebook.com/...d=29407974


Maybe everyone should think twice before they go digging for information on random people.

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Reply #445 posted 08/12/16 2:17am

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LuxLove said:

This is a post from the guy that shite 'newspaper' claimed was Prince's son (the one Dr. Funkenberry tweeted about being bombshell news) Anthony Steadman / Snow:



https://www.facebook.com/...d=29407974



Maybe everyone should think twice before they go digging for information on random people.


// Maybe people need to think that court docs are public info. All of the people who claimed to be children are going to have their names known to the public in 20 days. All of the claims were bogus from the very begining. Does anyone think that some women would have a baby by a millionaire and not say anything about paternity for 20-30 years?
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Reply #446 posted 08/12/16 2:31am

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IchBinKunst said:



laurarichardson said:




nelcp777 said:


It appears the judge has made his ruling in the heirs, pending DNA testing:



http://www.mncourts.gov/mncourtsgov/media/CIOMediaLibrary/Documents/Amended-Order-Re-Genetic-Testing-Protocol-and-Heirship-Claims-Following-the-June-27,-2016-hearing-and-Judgment.pdf




The 5 alleged kids, the woman secretly married in 2002, those who claimed John L. was not Prince's father, the claims of adoption and a few other claims.



Duane's offspring can take the DNA test and then their heirship will be determined from the results.



Ths judge seemed to sum it up very well in his order. I am assuming cos the judge signed it, this is official, pending appeals?



There was not any mention of child 6 or 7, unless I missed it.





I would think that Duane's children would have their test by this time and was their a child 6 and 7?


Someone in the family needs to get a hold of Alfred his touring the properties holds up the sale and what does he need to tour them for? Does he have a background in Real Estate? He may have an attorney taking advantage of him.





He may want to buy one of the houses that are on the list to be sold.


--// He should place a bid like everyone else. Holding up the listing of all of the properties is foolish.
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Reply #447 posted 08/12/16 2:53am

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laurarichardson said:

All of the people who claimed to be children are going to have their names known to the public in 20 days. All of the claims were bogus from the very begining.

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Typically American to my Dutch ears.

Does the procedure really take 20 days?

Any appeal after the test results are in?

Or will the list of heirs be (almost) final by then?

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Reply #448 posted 08/12/16 5:22am

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udo said:



laurarichardson said:


All of the people who claimed to be children are going to have their names known to the public in 20 days. All of the claims were bogus from the very begining.

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Typically American to my Dutch ears.


Does the procedure really take 20 days?


Any appeal after the test results are in?


Or will the list of heirs be (almost) final by then?


--// No, the testing has been conducted already and some people did not even get a test. All of the people making claims who failed DNA test or had their claims denied outright so their names will be made public within 20 days. Some names are out already.
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Reply #449 posted 08/12/16 6:21am

LIBRA

Just Crossed the AP:


MINNEAPOLIS (AP) - A judge in Minnesota has given the administrator of Prince's estate approval to sell some properties belonging to the late recording artist. Prince's home and recording complex, Paisley Park, is not on the list of properties Bremer Trust wants to liquidate. Most of the properties, including homes, vacant lots and buildings, are in Prince's hometown of Chanhassen. They include a commercial building estimated to be worth $22 million and a 156-acre piece of land on the shores of Lakes Ann and Lucy valued at nearly $14 million. Carver County Judge Kevin Eide Thursday gave the trust permission to list six properties for sale this month. Minnesota Public Radio News (http://bit.ly/2aHoFYn ) reports Eide says estate administrators must submit another affidavit before listing the remaining eight parcels. Prince died in April at age 57 of a drug overdose.

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