Nooriginalusername said:

laurarichardson said:

For the love of God why can't the judge get rid of her!!!

Seriously, for those of you with legal experience, why can't the judge dismiss her claim? Clearly she has mental health issues and she is wasting the estate and the tax payer's money on her jibberih. BTW she was also running for President as an independent, the original Coppertone baby and the girl from the Starbucks logo. How much more does a judge need to dismiss?

The Judge has already dismissed her claim

Claire continues to file claims after she was dismissed.

The Judge put on a new Order on September 15, 2016 as to whether she has standing to file any further claims, motions.

He is setting her up so he can declare her a "frivilous litigator."

She has until October 7, 2016 to respond.

After that he can declare her a "frivilous litigator"

He has filed the same Order for Mr. Dixon.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

Nooriginalusername said:

Seriously, for those of you with legal experience, why can't the judge dismiss her claim? Clearly she has mental health issues and she is wasting the estate and the tax payer's money on her jibberih. BTW she was also running for President as an independent, the original Coppertone baby and the girl from the Starbucks logo. How much more does a judge need to dismiss?

The Judge has already dismissed her claim

Claire continues to file claims after she was dismissed.

The Judge put on a new Order on September 15, 2016 as to whether she has standing to file any further claims, motions.

He is setting her up so he can declare her a "frivilous litigator."

She has until October 7, 2016 to respond.

After that he can declare her a "frivilous litigator"

He has filed the same Order for Mr. Dixon.

Thanks for the clarification!

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PRINCE_ESTATE?SITE=WNYC&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

The Associated Press is reporting that Judge Eide must interpret the Minnesota probate and parentage laws to determine whether to declare Brianna Nelson, Victoria Nelson, and Corey Simmons, who all have a connection via Duane, heirs or not.

bilbolives said:

Wow. Hopefully the judge will throw this out.

PennyPurple said:

Wow. Hopefully the judge will throw this out.

Already, Carver County District Judge Kevin Eide has said Brianna and Victoria have presented a plausible enough case to proceed and don't need to undergo genetic testing.

"One-seventh of the estate after taxes is still a lot of money," Los Angeles probate attorney Robert Straus said.

If Simmons' claim survives, it would be a three-way split. He says Duane Nelson and his mother, Carolyn Simmons, who isn't Brianna Nelson's mother, met at the University of Wisconsin-Milwaukee. Duane left Carolyn when she was five months pregnant and returned to Minnesota, Simmons said. He said his parents' last contact was in 1989, and that he met Brianna and two of Prince's half-sisters for the first time at Duane's funeral.

Read more here: http://www.thenewstribune...rylink=cpy

Parts of this ST article is just plain wrong.

The Judge has never said the girls dont need to take a DNA test.

The Judge found there was enough evidence for them to proceed with a DNA test based upon Duane's birth certificate listing John L as his father.

The girls declined to take the test because they acknowledge they are not genetically related to John L. or Prince.

The latest filings by Duane's offspring are asking for documents in regards to the payments made to the siblings. I noticed the filiings listed them as loans.

Can Bremer loan the money to the potential heirs and then reduce that from the settlement?

nelcp777 said:

The latest filings by Duane's offspring are asking for documents in regards to the payments made to the siblings. I noticed the filiings listed them as loans.

Can Bremer loan the money to the potential heirs and then reduce that from the settlement?

Yes, they can give them "loans" and then reduce it from the final accounting to each heir.

tmo1965 said:

laurarichardson said:

Mumio said: -- I thought by fees they mean fees that need to be paid to Breamer?

No. Apparently, Bremer paid out money to most of the non-excludeded heirs. Note - Tyka got paid 3x and the others only 1x.

http://www.mncourts.gov/m...A-Fees.pdf

I would like to know why she was paid 3X as the other heirs? I was executrix for my sister's estate and had to file in 2 states and fight in 1. I didn't get 3x but then again, I didn't ask for it either. I wonder if the other heirs will ask for an accounting for her expenses if they are at odds.

Is the judge going to allow a DNA test for P's "other sister" from a different father? It seems that would be a logical move if the judge is going to rule only by blood relatives, regardless whether they were raised together.

SpinsterSister said:

tmo1965 said:

No. Apparently, Bremer paid out money to most of the non-excludeded heirs. Note - Tyka got paid 3x and the others only 1x.

http://www.mncourts.gov/m...A-Fees.pdf

I would like to know why she was paid 3X as the other heirs? I was executrix for my sister's estate and had to file in 2 states and fight in 1. I didn't get 3x but then again, I didn't ask for it either. I wonder if the other heirs will ask for an accounting for her expenses if they are at odds.

Is the judge going to allow a DNA test for P's "other sister" from a different father? It seems that would be a logical move if the judge is going to rule only by blood relatives, regardless whether they were raised together.

What other sister?

Maybe Tyka received 3 loans for expenses for the three "memorials" for P?

Maybe all of them received loans to buy the houses they are living in and the estate wants to sell?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

SpinsterSister said:

I would like to know why she was paid 3X as the other heirs? I was executrix for my sister's estate and had to file in 2 states and fight in 1. I didn't get 3x but then again, I didn't ask for it either. I wonder if the other heirs will ask for an accounting for her expenses if they are at odds.

Is the judge going to allow a DNA test for P's "other sister" from a different father? It seems that would be a logical move if the judge is going to rule only by blood relatives, regardless whether they were raised together.

What other sister?

Maybe Tyka received 3 loans for expenses for the three "memorials" for P?

Maybe all of them received loans to buy the houses they are living in and the estate wants to sell?

the Gresham sister, why not DNA her? I didn't think about the "memorials" but then I would assume the estate would assume direct billing as I believe they can write them off (depending on wording). Wow, P was supporting his entire family, each member! That man was a saint if he did all that for them - what about LG? Did P. support him too?

Didn't think about them as loans, which makes sense. Now if LG can prove that P. was supporting more than 50% I believe he also has a claim, but then I am not looking at MN law for that specificially, so I am not sure what the MN law states.

I see many questioning the loans to the heirs. I don't think it is that uncommon, particularly if the family were employees of the "family business." Unless his accountant was a total moron, the family members he was assisting should have been classified as employees so that the payments could be tax deductible. It really isn't that uncommon. Realistically, many people who worked for Prince have had the rug pulled out from under them. They went from a really great job to nothing-straight to the unemployment line. It's very said. As someone pointed out, the estate will deduct whatever was loaned from the person's final settlement. Honestly, I am glad the Trust was able to do this for the family. Having recently lost a family member, I can say the last thing a person needs when faced with a sudden loss and the overwhelming grief, is to worry about losing their home.

Nooriginalusername said:

I see many questioning the loans to the heirs. I don't think it is that uncommon, particularly if the family were employees of the "family business." Unless his accountant was a total moron, the family members he was assisting should have been classified as employees so that the payments could be tax deductible. It really isn't that uncommon. Realistically, many people who worked for Prince have had the rug pulled out from under them. They went from a really great job to nothing-straight to the unemployment line. It's very said. As someone pointed out, the estate will deduct whatever was loaned from the person's final settlement. Honestly, I am glad the Trust was able to do this for the family. Having recently lost a family member, I can say the last thing a person needs when faced with a sudden loss and the overwhelming grief, is to worry about losing their home.

Sorry to hear of your loss nooriginalusername

Nooriginalusername said:

laurarichardson said:

Nooriginalusername said:

I see many questioning the loans to the heirs. I don't think it is that uncommon, particularly if the family were employees of the "family business." Unless his accountant was a total moron, the family members he was assisting should have been classified as employees so that the payments could be tax deductible. It really isn't that uncommon. Realistically, many people who worked for Prince have had the rug pulled out from under them. They went from a really great job to nothing-straight to the unemployment line. It's very said. As someone pointed out, the estate will deduct whatever was loaned from the person's final settlement. Honestly, I am glad the Trust was able to do this for the family. Having recently lost a family member, I can say the last thing a person needs when faced with a sudden loss and the overwhelming grief, is to worry about losing their home.

--- I always thought the siblings were employees at Paisley Park Inc.

For sure Tyka was an employee. Maybe even Omarr.

I dont think P really knew his siblings that well from his father's side.

I read the first time the family attended a Probate Court hearing, some siblings were saying "Nice to meet you."

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

For sure Tyka was an employee. Maybe even Omarr.

I dont think P really knew his siblings that well from his father's side.

I read the first time the family attended a Probate Court hearing, some siblings were saying "Nice to meet you."

That would suck, "Nice to meet you", now give me my millions. $$

PennyPurple said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

For sure Tyka was an employee. Maybe even Omarr.

I dont think P really knew his siblings that well from his father's side.

I read the first time the family attended a Probate Court hearing, some siblings were saying "Nice to meet you."

That would suck, "Nice to meet you", now give me my millions. $$

It's quite possible that those who were saying "nice to meet you" are not related by blood. So, Omarr may not have met one of P's older siblings by his father. Or Alfred may not have met any of P's father's children by his first wife, since Alfred was in a residential facility for so long. It may not be as weird as it seems.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

For sure Tyka was an employee. Maybe even Omarr.

I dont think P really knew his siblings that well from his father's side.

I read the first time the family attended a Probate Court hearing, some siblings were saying "Nice to meet you."

--- He knew his Dad's kids he went to New York to live with Sharon. Was sued by Lorna and grew up Albert until he went to a mental health facility. There is even a picture of him as teen with the whole crew. Of course knowing them does not mean getting along with.

I think the one's saying "nice to meet you" were Prince's siblings from his mother meeting Prince's siblings from his father. I think Prince and Tyka knew both sides, but Alfred and Omarr may not have known John L's other children.

morningsong said:

Looks like things are going to take longer than I hoped and a bit messier too. Going onto 6 months in. But still not years. I still don't see that being necessary, but who knows. [Edited 10/1/16 15:43pm]

Normally probate estate cases take 12 months or longer to finalize.

This is a complicated estate.

It will be in Court for awhile.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

morningsong said:

Well with new potential heirs popping up, who knows.

.

I guess the real heirs should be known by now.

The rest are posers, wannabe's or relatives of Duane which is a case that has to be decided.

Weird that in such an advanced society one cannot simply look up heirs in a register...

.

We'll have to wait some more moons.

The estate can still do business, can't they?

A nice CD set for Christmas?

A CD for 7 june 2017?

Hmm?

udo said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

Nooriginalusername said: --- I always thought the siblings were employees at Paisley Park Inc.

For sure Tyka was an employee. Maybe even Omarr.

I dont think P really knew his siblings that well from his father's side.

I read the first time the family attended a Probate Court hearing, some siblings were saying "Nice to meet you."

On a strictly human level, that is tremendously sad to me. It's a true miracle that Prince essentially raised himself and achieved so much. Little wonder he had no trust for anyone. I'm sure he was not the only one who was left to find his way on his own. Continued prayers for this family, there will be more difficult days ahead

[Edited 10/2/16 10:58am]

udo said:

morningsong said:

Well with new potential heirs popping up, who knows.

.

I guess the real heirs should be known by now.

The rest are posers, wannabe's or relatives of Duane which is a case that has to be decided.

Weird that in such an advanced society one cannot simply look up heirs in a register...

.

We'll have to wait some more moons.

The estate can still do business, can't they?

A nice CD set for Christmas?

A CD for 7 june 2017?

Hmm?

Maybe release the Atlanta show(s)? Didn't Prince say he wanted to release them, or at least the last one?

The estate needs to do some business, the tax man cometh...

CandaceS said:

How can I communicate ideas to the Estate?

Or put ideas in their idea box?