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Reply #780 posted 09/11/16 12:41pm

morningsong

laurarichardson said:

tmo1965 said:



laurarichardson said:


bilbolives said:

http://www.startribune.com/constitutional-challenge-raised-in-prince-estate/392918011/



The Minneapolis Star Tribune is also reporting on attorneys for Brianna and Victoria Nelson arguing that the genetic testing protocol for establishing heirs "violates the fundamental protections of due process and equal protection accorded by the US Constitution."



-- This sounds like such utter bullshit. They are not blood related to Prince or John. My guess is the grand daughter had no parental relationship with Prince or John at all. They are play nieces and want to use that to inherit millions of dollars. If this is allowed anyone that has a close relationship to a deseased person can be an heir while some states do not allow cousins to be heirs or biological children that were adopted away from the deceased to heirs. The reasoning is insane. Maybe the family should offer them money to just go away. The Jimi Hendrix's brother some money and a t-shirt business to go away. [Edited 9/9/16 19:50pm]

VN was born after John passed away. This whole thing comes down to what the legal definition of a parent and sibling is.
There's a lot of unanswered questions here. What proof did the family have to exclude Duane from John's estate? Was a dna test taken at that time and it showed that John was not Duane's biological father? Neither side has provided info of that nature.


--- I thought the swindlers said in court docs they are not taking the DNA test because they know they are not related but have a parental relationship with John thur there dad. I still do not understand how they a parental relationship with Prince?



I'm not going to read all that. but from I've gleaned. Thry're going a legal stance Duane was treated like a sibling and was accepted as a sibling. Most of the stuff they're using though seems to come from inheritance rights of those that were born from somekind of insemination process.
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Reply #781 posted 09/11/16 2:35pm

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morningsong said:

laurarichardson said:


--- I thought the swindlers said in court docs they are not taking the DNA test because they know they are not related but have a parental relationship with John thur there dad. I still do not understand how they a parental relationship with Prince?



I'm not going to read all that. but from I've gleaned. Thry're going a legal stance Duane was treated like a sibling and was accepted as a sibling. Most of the stuff they're using though seems to come from inheritance rights of those that were born from somekind of insemination process.

---Exactly, the whole rational is bonkers.
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Reply #782 posted 09/11/16 5:52pm

morningsong

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:




I'm not going to read all that. but from I've gleaned. Thry're going a legal stance Duane was treated like a sibling and was accepted as a sibling. Most of the stuff they're using though seems to come from inheritance rights of those that were born from somekind of insemination process.

---Exactly, the whole rational is bonkers.



I'm not so sure. I'm assuming Bremer answers this back and I'm curious how they'll approach it.
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Reply #783 posted 09/11/16 9:21pm

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morningsong said:

laurarichardson said:
---Exactly, the whole rational is bonkers.
I'm not so sure. I'm assuming Bremer answers this back and I'm curious how they'll approach it.

Regardless of how Bremer responds it will be denied by the Judge.

The handwriting is on the wall.

Their only hope is in the Court of Appeals and it is unlikely they will win.

In other news, this week we will find out if ex2 files an appeal on the divorce case.

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Reply #784 posted 09/12/16 1:33am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



morningsong said:


laurarichardson said:
---Exactly, the whole rational is bonkers.

I'm not so sure. I'm assuming Bremer answers this back and I'm curious how they'll approach it.

Regardless of how Bremer responds it will be denied by the Judge.


The handwriting is on the wall.


Their only hope is in the Court of Appeals and it is unlikely they will win.


In other news, this week we will find out if ex2 files an appeal on the divorce case.


-- I can't see how the judge would go along with this either.
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Reply #785 posted 09/12/16 7:45am

1Sasha

What a mess ...

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Reply #786 posted 09/12/16 8:33am

zenarose

Hey Morningsong how are you today? I have been keeping a constant watch to see any activity in

court but so far nothing. We have 3 more days to go before we hear about divorce unseal right??

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Reply #787 posted 09/12/16 9:41am

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There's been some activity but nothing related to the divorce paperwork.

Welcome to "the org", Mumio…they can have you, but I'll have your love in the end nod
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Reply #788 posted 09/12/16 10:45am

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Does it appear that Brianna Nelson, and V.N. add another legal person?

See the 12 september documents at http://www.mncourts.gov/I...elson.aspx

Pills and thrills and daffodils will kill... If you don't believe me or don't get it, I don't have time to try to convince you, sorry.
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Reply #789 posted 09/12/16 10:50am

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udo said:

Does it appear that Brianna Nelson, and V.N. add another legal person?

See the 12 september documents at http://www.mncourts.gov/I...elson.aspx

Yes.

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Reply #790 posted 09/12/16 1:11pm

zenarose

There is a another claim filed on 9/7 that I guess I overlooked.

It's by the organization that had booked PP for May 14th, and due

P's passing was not able to hold their event there.

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Reply #791 posted 09/12/16 1:40pm

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zenarose said:

There is a another claim filed on 9/7 that I guess I overlooked.

It's by the organization that had booked PP for May 14th, and due

P's passing was not able to hold their event there.

What if there is no contract, but only an oral agreement? And if there is a contract, isn't a death an act of God and so negates any agreement? It seems poor form to sue the estate rather than rescheduling it for later. Did they pay to hold it there or was it donated space (my guess)? Without knowing more, it looks opportunistic and disrespectful.

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Reply #792 posted 09/12/16 1:49pm

zenarose

Here is the link to the report when it occurred.

http://www.startribune.com/paisley-park-event-cancellation-distresses-mixed-blood-ticket-holders/378527695/

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Reply #793 posted 09/12/16 2:11pm

Dibblekins

deerpath said:

zenarose said:

There is a another claim filed on 9/7 that I guess I overlooked.

It's by the organization that had booked PP for May 14th, and due

P's passing was not able to hold their event there.

What if there is no contract, but only an oral agreement? And if there is a contract, isn't a death an act of God and so negates any agreement? It seems poor form to sue the estate rather than rescheduling it for later. Did they pay to hold it there or was it donated space (my guess)? Without knowing more, it looks opportunistic and disrespectful.

I don't think that is necessarily a fair statement, tbh...I run a small organisation myself and funds are tight...If we'd booked an event and spent our hard-fought funds on printing / sending invitations, putting a deposit down on catering, etc etc, I'd feel sad about the proprietor's death, of course - but I'd still be wanting - NEEDING - to get back the costs incurred, just so I could reorganise things for another time / place.
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Unfortunately, awkard as it may be, business doesn't really allow for sentiment, especially when those businesses are living hand to mouth themselves!

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Reply #794 posted 09/12/16 4:15pm

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dang. this isn't goin to help efforts to make the estate solvent:


from: http://kstp.com/news/mixe...398/?cat=1

Mixed Blood Theatre Files Nearly $350,000 Claim against Prince Estate



more at link

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Reply #795 posted 09/12/16 4:40pm

Dibblekins

XxAxX said:

dang. this isn't goin to help efforts to make the estate solvent:


from: http://kstp.com/news/mixe...398/?cat=1

Mixed Blood Theatre Files Nearly $350,000 Claim against Prince Estate



more at link


Yes - I remember this event being booked and their being told (by PP) that it would still go ahead - until they were told it wouldn't...I can imagine they did incur some considerable costs, made worse by the very late cancellation.

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Reply #796 posted 09/12/16 4:51pm

morningsong

Dibblekins said:

XxAxX said:

dang. this isn't goin to help efforts to make the estate solvent:


from: http://kstp.com/news/mixe...398/?cat=1

Mixed Blood Theatre Files Nearly $350,000 Claim against Prince Estate



more at link


Yes - I remember this event being booked and their being told (by PP) that it would still go ahead - until they were told it wouldn't...I can imagine they did incur some considerable costs, made worse by the very late cancellation.



I remember this too, iirc, they were offered another location but they didn't want it.

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Reply #797 posted 09/12/16 4:53pm

morningsong

zenarose said:

Hey Morningsong how are you today? I have been keeping a constant watch to see any activity in

court but so far nothing. We have 3 more days to go before we hear about divorce unseal right??



Doing well, and yourself?


I haven't looked to see if they did file, if they haven't they sure are waiting until the last minute. I may be able to look later on this evening.

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Reply #798 posted 09/12/16 4:58pm

zenarose

morningsong said:

zenarose said:

Hey Morningsong how are you today? I have been keeping a constant watch to see any activity in

court but so far nothing. We have 3 more days to go before we hear about divorce unseal right??



Doing well, and yourself?


I haven't looked to see if they did file, if they haven't they sure are waiting until the last minute. I may be able to look later on this evening.

There wasn't anything added as of just a few moments ago. So tomorrow is another day!!

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Reply #799 posted 09/12/16 5:40pm

tmo1965

zenarose said:

morningsong said:



Doing well, and yourself?


I haven't looked to see if they did file, if they haven't they sure are waiting until the last minute. I may be able to look later on this evening.

There wasn't anything added as of just a few moments ago. So tomorrow is another day!!

Was the telephone motion hearing scheduled for 10/6/2016 already listed? If not, there's one there now.

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Reply #800 posted 09/12/16 7:32pm

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XxAxX said:

dang. this isn't goin to help efforts to make the estate solvent:



from: http://kstp.com/news/mixe...398/?cat=1





Mixed Blood Theatre Files Nearly $350,000 Claim against Prince Estate















more at link




-/ Well there are not a lot of financial claims against the estate and this is the fault of Bremer. Not a debt Prince caused.
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Reply #801 posted 09/12/16 7:36pm

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Dibblekins said:



deerpath said:




zenarose said:





There is a another claim filed on 9/7 that I guess I overlooked.



It's by the organization that had booked PP for May 14th, and due



P's passing was not able to hold their event there.





What if there is no contract, but only an oral agreement? And if there is a contract, isn't a death an act of God and so negates any agreement? It seems poor form to sue the estate rather than rescheduling it for later. Did they pay to hold it there or was it donated space (my guess)? Without knowing more, it looks opportunistic and disrespectful.




I don't think that is necessarily a fair statement, tbh...I run a small organisation myself and funds are tight...If we'd booked an event and spent our hard-fought funds on printing / sending invitations, putting a deposit down on catering, etc etc, I'd feel sad about the proprietor's death, of course - but I'd still be wanting - NEEDING - to get back the costs incurred, just so I could reorganise things for another time / place.
.

Unfortunately, awkard as it may be, business doesn't really allow for sentiment, especially when those businesses are living hand to mouth themselves!


-/Almost all contracts have clause "for acts of god" knowing Prince it might have been a handshake deal. Because people file claims it does not they are going to win.
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Reply #802 posted 09/12/16 8:14pm

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laurarichardson said:

Dibblekins said:

I don't think that is necessarily a fair statement, tbh...I run a small organisation myself and funds are tight...If we'd booked an event and spent our hard-fought funds on printing / sending invitations, putting a deposit down on catering, etc etc, I'd feel sad about the proprietor's death, of course - but I'd still be wanting - NEEDING - to get back the costs incurred, just so I could reorganise things for another time / place.
.

Unfortunately, awkard as it may be, business doesn't really allow for sentiment, especially when those businesses are living hand to mouth themselves!

-/Almost all contracts have clause "for acts of god" knowing Prince it might have been a handshake deal. Because people file claims it does not they are going to win.

You are right, and there is nothing to indicate in the claim that a contract was signed.

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Reply #803 posted 09/12/16 8:54pm

bilbolives

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PRINCE_ESTATE_GALA_CANCELED?SITE=WNYC&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

The Associated Press is also reporting about Mixed Blood Theatre suing the estate for $350,000 for the cancelled event at Paisley Park.

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Reply #804 posted 09/12/16 9:05pm

bilbolives

http://www.startribune.com/mixed-blood-theatre-files-350-000-claim-on-prince-s-estate/393166631/

The Minneapolis Star Tribune is also reporting about the Mixed Blood Theatre suit, and the article delves more deeply into other claims against the estate as well as the sealed vs. public record issue.

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Reply #805 posted 09/12/16 9:06pm

bilbolives

http://www.startribune.com/mixed-blood-theatre-files-350-000-claim-on-prince-s-estate/393166631/

The Minneapolis Star Tribune is also reporting about the Mixed Blood Theatre suit, and the article delves more deeply into other claims against the estate as well as the sealed vs. public record issue.

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Reply #806 posted 09/13/16 5:49am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:



laurarichardson said:


Dibblekins said:



I don't think that is necessarily a fair statement, tbh...I run a small organisation myself and funds are tight...If we'd booked an event and spent our hard-fought funds on printing / sending invitations, putting a deposit down on catering, etc etc, I'd feel sad about the proprietor's death, of course - but I'd still be wanting - NEEDING - to get back the costs incurred, just so I could reorganise things for another time / place.
.

Unfortunately, awkard as it may be, business doesn't really allow for sentiment, especially when those businesses are living hand to mouth themselves!



-/Almost all contracts have clause "for acts of god" knowing Prince it might have been a handshake deal. Because people file claims it does not they are going to win.

You are right, and there is nothing to indicate in the claim that a contract was signed.


/- Exactly, in addition if there is an act clause the theater may get nothing and if the contract had no cancellation clause they are in trouble. I suspect this is the reason Bremer did not give them any money.
[Edited 9/13/16 5:56am]
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Reply #807 posted 09/13/16 6:00am

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bilbolives said:

http://www.startribune.com/mixed-blood-theatre-files-350-000-claim-on-prince-s-estate/393166631/



The Minneapolis Star Tribune is also reporting about the Mixed Blood Theatre suit, and the article delves more deeply into other claims against the estate as well as the sealed vs. public record issue.


--- I have to go and look because I only saw one creditor claim but yesterday was the deadline. The media likes to blow things out of propotion. People can file all the claims they like it is about what you can prove. 30 people belived they were hires and none of those claims went anywhere.
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Reply #808 posted 09/13/16 7:39am

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The Judge issued a Protection Order today without hearing.

No indication who requested and received a Protection Order or why one was issued.

Just doesnt make sense.

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Reply #809 posted 09/13/16 7:52am

zenarose

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The Judge issued a Protection Order today without hearing.

No indication who requested and received a Protection Order or why one was issued.

Just doesnt make sense.

Reckon it's part of Bremer "business"?? Didn't the judge seal all that

a few weeks ago??

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