ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

What's that?

zenarose said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

The Judge issued a Protection Order today without hearing.

No indication who requested and received a Protection Order or why one was issued.

Just doesnt make sense.

Reckon it's part of Bremer "business"?? Didn't the judge seal all that

a few weeks ago??

No, I dont believe it has anything to do with business.

Protection Orders are issued for people needing protection, say for instance, in a domestic violence criminal case. I've never seen one issued in a Probate case.

Its basically a restraining order against someone.

It was issued without a hearing which means it was an emergency?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

zenarose said:

Reckon it's part of Bremer "business"?? Didn't the judge seal all that

a few weeks ago??

No, I dont believe it has anything to do with business.

Protection Orders are issued for people needing protection, say for instance, in a domestic violence criminal case. I've never seen one issued in a Probate case.

Its basically a restraining order against someone.

It was issued without a hearing which means it was an emergency?

I have "sealing" on my brain.

Well it would have to be someone involved with the case. Issuing it a couple days in advance of the 15th??

zenarose said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

No, I dont believe it has anything to do with business.

Protection Orders are issued for people needing protection, say for instance, in a domestic violence criminal case. I've never seen one issued in a Probate case.

Its basically a restraining order against someone.

It was issued without a hearing which means it was an emergency?

I have "sealing" on my brain.

Well it would have to be someone involved with the case. Issuing it a couple days in advance of the 15th??

We have two courts involved, Probate Court and Family Court. The 15th deadline is in Family Court.

The Protection Order was issued in Probate Court.

Im looking at the Minnesota Civil Rules and the Protective Order could be related to discovery,or a deposition of a party?

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

zenarose said:

I have "sealing" on my brain.

Well it would have to be someone involved with the case. Issuing it a couple days in advance of the 15th??

We have two courts involved, Probate Court and Family Court. The 15th deadline is in Family Court.

The Protection Order was issued in Probate Court.

Im looking at the Minnesota Civil Rules and the Protective Order could be related to discovery,or a deposition of a party?

I remember in the filing for Brianna and VN, something was mentioned pertaining to depositions. Maybe the witness (s) want to do it in private? But why would that warrant a Protective Order?? I'm gonna have to go read again.

laurarichardson said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

You are right, and there is nothing to indicate in the claim that a contract was signed.

/- Exactly, in addition if there is an act clause the theater may get nothing and if the contract had no cancellation clause they are in trouble. I suspect this is the reason Bremer did not give them any money. [Edited 9/13/16 5:56am]

There was no insurance on this event? In my experience, there usually is insurance in place in the event of a cancellation.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

zenarose said:

I have "sealing" on my brain.

Well it would have to be someone involved with the case. Issuing it a couple days in advance of the 15th??

We have two courts involved, Probate Court and Family Court. The 15th deadline is in Family Court.

The Protection Order was issued in Probate Court.

Im looking at the Minnesota Civil Rules and the Protective Order could be related to discovery,or a deposition of a party?

May this has something to do with it.

8/29 Order Of Submissions RE: Discovery Plans

8/31 Proposed Scheduling Order

zenarose said:

There is a another claim filed on 9/7 that I guess I overlooked.

It's by the organization that had booked PP for May 14th, and due

P's passing was not able to hold their event there.

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Zena: Yes, I saw that story too, on Star Tribune. I check there once in a while to see if there is anything new, since they seem to be the only credible source concerning Prince.

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They want to sue the estate for money owed to them. It's just one thing after another! Really terrible.....

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cloveringold85 said:

zenarose said:

There is a another claim filed on 9/7 that I guess I overlooked.

It's by the organization that had booked PP for May 14th, and due

P's passing was not able to hold their event there.

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Zena: Yes, I saw that story too, on Star Tribune. I check there once in a while to see if there is anything new, since they seem to be the only credible source concerning Prince.

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They want to sue the estate for money owed to them. It's just one thing after another! Really terrible.....

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If all these court cases don't end soon there won't be any money left to fight about!!

zenarose said:

cloveringold85 said:

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Zena: Yes, I saw that story too, on Star Tribune. I check there once in a while to see if there is anything new, since they seem to be the only credible source concerning Prince.

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They want to sue the estate for money owed to them. It's just one thing after another! Really terrible.....

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If all these court cases don't end soon there won't be any money left to fight about!!

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I know, right??!!

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

zenarose said:

Reckon it's part of Bremer "business"?? Didn't the judge seal all that

a few weeks ago??

No, I dont believe it has anything to do with business.

Protection Orders are issued for people needing protection, say for instance, in a domestic violence criminal case. I've never seen one issued in a Probate case.

Its basically a restraining order against someone.

It was issued without a hearing which means it was an emergency?

That's worrisome.

morningsong said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

No, I dont believe it has anything to do with business.

Protection Orders are issued for people needing protection, say for instance, in a domestic violence criminal case. I've never seen one issued in a Probate case.

Its basically a restraining order against someone.

It was issued without a hearing which means it was an emergency?

That's worrisome.

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Oh boy!! Even more mystery now!

morningsong said:

--- Maybe this has something to do with the media contacting or harassing Mani. She complained about the media stalking her before and if the divorce docs are unsealed she will have the media harassing her but I thought restraining orders applied only to individuals not organizations. Or is this restraining order acting as a gag order for the media. Like yes we have to unseal the divorce docs but you the media can't report on it? Or maybe someone is making threats at Mani or the Duane Nelson swindle spawn or maybe the swindle spawn are threating people after their dad and Duane Nelson Jr were violent.
[Edited 9/13/16 13:37pm]

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

That's worrisome.

--- Maybe this has something to do with the media contacting or harassing Mani. She complained about the media stalking her before and if the divorce docs are unsealed she will have the media harassing her but I thought restraining orders applied only to individuals not organizations. Or is this restraining order acting as a gag order for the media. Like yes we have to unseal the divorce docs but you the media can't report on it? Or maybe someone is making threats at Mani or the Duane Nelson swindle spawn or maybe the swindle spawn are threating people after their dad and Duane Nelson Jr were violent. [Edited 9/13/16 13:37pm]

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Yes, Laura. That could very well be the case!!

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said:

That's worrisome.

--- Maybe this has something to do with the media contacting or harassing Mani. She complained about the media stalking her before and if the divorce docs are unsealed she will have the media harassing her but I thought restraining orders applied only to individuals not organizations. Or is this restraining order acting as a gag order for the media. Like yes we have to unseal the divorce docs but you the media can't report on it? Or maybe someone is making threats at Mani or the Duane Nelson swindle spawn or maybe the swindle spawn are threating people after their dad and Duane Nelson Jr were violent. [Edited 9/13/16 13:37pm]

Ex#2 is not a party to the Probate case so the Probate Judge cant issue any orders about her.

Only the Family Law Judge can issue orders regarding Ex#2.

I think it may have something to do with someone who doesnt want their deposition taken or some other "discovery" issue so they sought a Protection Order.

That is my only explanation.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said: --- Maybe this has something to do with the media contacting or harassing Mani. She complained about the media stalking her before and if the divorce docs are unsealed she will have the media harassing her but I thought restraining orders applied only to individuals not organizations. Or is this restraining order acting as a gag order for the media. Like yes we have to unseal the divorce docs but you the media can't report on it? Or maybe someone is making threats at Mani or the Duane Nelson swindle spawn or maybe the swindle spawn are threating people after their dad and Duane Nelson Jr were violent. [Edited 9/13/16 13:37pm]

Ex#2 is not a party to the Probate case so the Probate Judge cant issue any orders about her.

Only the Family Law Judge can issue orders regarding Ex#2.

I think it may have something to do with someone who doesnt want their deposition taken or some other "discovery" issue so they sought a Protection Order.

That is my only explanation.

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Very good point there!!

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

laurarichardson said:

morningsong said: --- Maybe this has something to do with the media contacting or harassing Mani. She complained about the media stalking her before and if the divorce docs are unsealed she will have the media harassing her but I thought restraining orders applied only to individuals not organizations. Or is this restraining order acting as a gag order for the media. Like yes we have to unseal the divorce docs but you the media can't report on it? Or maybe someone is making threats at Mani or the Duane Nelson swindle spawn or maybe the swindle spawn are threating people after their dad and Duane Nelson Jr were violent. [Edited 9/13/16 13:37pm]

Ex#2 is not a party to the Probate case so the Probate Judge cant issue any orders about her.

Only the Family Law Judge can issue orders regarding Ex#2.

I think it may have something to do with someone who doesnt want their deposition taken or some other "discovery" issue so they sought a Protection Order.

That is my only explanation.

From what I've read, it seems like a Stipulation and Protective Order relates to keeping proprietary or confidential information private when it has to be revealed during a deposition or discovery.

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https://www.foley.com/ess...2-03-2007/

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https://www.revisor.mn.go...&id=26

zenarose said:

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

We have two courts involved, Probate Court and Family Court. The 15th deadline is in Family Court.

The Protection Order was issued in Probate Court.

Im looking at the Minnesota Civil Rules and the Protective Order could be related to discovery,or a deposition of a party?

May this has something to do with it.

8/29 Order Of Submissions RE: Discovery Plans

8/31 Proposed Scheduling Order

Isaidlifeisjustagame: I just went back to look at the above items. They have gone back in and put a seal order on those 2 items.

I did see though when it was available for view that there was a female scheduled to testify 9/12.

[Edited 9/13/16 16:45pm]

zenarose said:

Perhaps infor relating to the confidential information that was to be shared regarding potential heirs???

This came to my Facebook today from at least 2 different Prince Facebook groups about that crazy guy with his crazy claim. I haven't seen it mentioned here yet. Have ya'll seen this today?

From the Family Court (Mani) we have this:

10/06/2016			Telephone Motion Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Fraser, Thomas)

Obviously an appointment, I'm supposing over the the phone.

zoso1978 said:

This came to my Facebook today from at least 2 different Prince Facebook groups about that crazy guy with his crazy claim. I haven't seen it mentioned here yet. Have ya'll seen this today?

This guy filed a claim for one billion dollars saying he owned all the rights to ALL of Prince's intellectual property. So far he is winning because according to the judge,Bremmer did not respond properly.

www.mncourts.gov

MNCOURTS.GOV

Yeah, we saw it. I'm not sure if he's been officially kicked to the curb yet, though.

zoso1978 said:

-/ His claim will be kicked to the curb. Goggle him and check out his web site he is insane and has not provided one piece of proof that he has the Rigths to any intellectual property. He just keeps filing claims and actually tried this before back in the 90s.

tmo1965 said:

--- I wonder if this is a way to keep the deposition sealed because it has something to do with the work product that his divorce attorneys turned over to Breamer. They wanted to keep that sealed.

zenarose said:

zenarose said:

May this has something to do with it.

8/29 Order Of Submissions RE: Discovery Plans

8/31 Proposed Scheduling Order

Isaidlifeisjustagame: I just went back to look at the above items. They have gone back in and put a seal order on those 2 items.

I did see though when it was available for view that there was a female scheduled to testify 9/12.

[Edited 9/13/16 16:45pm]

Hmmmm

Too many secrets.

morningsong said:

From the Family Court (Mani) we have this:

10/06/2016			Telephone Motion Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Fraser, Thomas)

Obviously an appointment, I'm supposing over the the phone.

This probably means there will not be an appeal of the Family Court Judge's Decision regarding the unsealing of the divorce records.

Otherwise, there is no need to have a telephone conference motion hearing.

The telephone hearing will probably be about about what Ex#2 wants redacted from the records.

ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

morningsong said:

From the Family Court (Mani) we have this:

10/06/2016			Telephone Motion Hearing (9:00 AM) (Judicial Officer Fraser, Thomas)

Obviously an appointment, I'm supposing over the the phone.

This probably means there will not be an appeal of the Family Court Judge's Decision regarding the unsealing of the divorce records.

Otherwise, there is no need to have a telephone conference motion hearing.

The telephone hearing will probably be about about what Ex#2 wants redacted from the records.

But if you can (potentially) have everything redacted, what's the point in opening them?

Dibblekins said:

-/ That is what is stupid about Star Tribune going to court in the first place. It is a no-fault divorce state the file may say nothing about why they are divorce and Mani is going to have as much as she can removed so the Tribune may have just wasted their time. I think it was probaly sealed because of finacial info that neither one wanted public.

More filings just got posted. Another company involved in a cancellation of the use of PP.