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Reply #30 posted 07/19/16 5:48pm

bilbolives

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/U/US_PRINCE_PURPLE_RAIN_HOUSE?SITE=WNYC&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

The Associated Press is reporting that in 2015 Prince bought the house used in the exterior shots of "Purple Rain," one of a dozen properties in Minnesota he owned.

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Reply #31 posted 07/19/16 5:53pm

bilbolives

http://www.startribune.com/nothing-to-kid-about-prince-bought-the-purple-rain-house-last-summer/387497501/

The Minneapolis Star Tribune is also reporting on Prince buying the house in 2015 which was used in exterior shots of "Purple Rain."

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Reply #32 posted 07/19/16 7:36pm

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The Estate
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Reply #33 posted 07/19/16 7:57pm

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I've seen several people stating "reply to subscribe" on different threads so I'm asking: am I the only person who has a "subscribe/end subscription" button at the top of each thread? I get notifications via email if there are new comments. Are people doing it this other way because they don't want email notifications?


Not sure about anyone else, but for me: When I subscribe using that button the subscription expires in 10 days. I asked in the site help if there was any way to have that extended or not expire and never received a reply, even after bumping. It gets ridiculous to end & resub a bunch of threads every 9 days.

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Reply #34 posted 07/20/16 12:03pm

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Eileen said:

Mumio said:

I've seen several people stating "reply to subscribe" on different threads so I'm asking: am I the only person who has a "subscribe/end subscription" button at the top of each thread? I get notifications via email if there are new comments. Are people doing it this other way because they don't want email notifications?


Not sure about anyone else, but for me: When I subscribe using that button the subscription expires in 10 days. I asked in the site help if there was any way to have that extended or not expire and never received a reply, even after bumping. It gets ridiculous to end & resub a bunch of threads every 9 days.

Why is the estate been taking over with talk about the subscribe button?

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Reply #35 posted 07/20/16 12:23pm

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Eileen said:

Mumio said:

I've seen several people stating "reply to subscribe" on different threads so I'm asking: am I the only person who has a "subscribe/end subscription" button at the top of each thread? I get notifications via email if there are new comments. Are people doing it this other way because they don't want email notifications?


Not sure about anyone else, but for me: When I subscribe using that button the subscription expires in 10 days. I asked in the site help if there was any way to have that extended or not expire and never received a reply, even after bumping. It gets ridiculous to end & resub a bunch of threads every 9 days.



Agreed!! If you do find an answer, please let me know...it's annoying as hell to run into that. Thanks.


laurarichardson, it's not being "taken over" confused , but this is the one thread where I saw people doing it so I asked the question. Sorry if that bothered you but that's what it's about. No doubt I would have heard about it if I started a new thread over it too wink

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Reply #36 posted 07/20/16 2:36pm

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They have released the Affidavits of Heirship for those not claiming Prince was their father. Also, another crazy person filed and said he has Prince's remains. Lawdy on the crazies.

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Reply #37 posted 07/20/16 2:40pm

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Another new father for Prince, Loyal James Gresham, Jr. That makes 3 fathers for Prince.

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Reply #38 posted 07/20/16 5:41pm

beautifulone7

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This is actually a very complicated estate. It is massive. It is complex. It is being contested - on more than one level, probably before it is over. There is real estate involved. There is more than one state involved. There is more than one country involved.

There are many, many, many variables. And, as I have said, there is always a "but" in the World of Law.

We are not seeing everything here in the filings of the Probate Court of Carver County, MN. We can follow it. It is interesting. But we will probably never know everything.

I read once that dismantling his estate is comparable in size and complexity to Enron.

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Reply #39 posted 07/20/16 6:30pm

laytonian

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Hmmm....
I am reading the Affidavit of Heirship filed by Sharon Louise Nelson.

In it, she references that Prince was the Personal Representative for his father's estate (his father died intestate, no will, must run in the family).

QUOTE: "The Application, which was apparently signed under penalty of perjury by Prince and his counsel at the time, Traci Bfansford Bullock, identified the following persons as the sons and daughters of John L. Nelson:

Lorna Nelson;

Sharon Blakley (Nelson);

Norrine Nolen (Nelson);

John R. Nelson;

Prince Rogers Nelson;

Tyka Nelson

WHERE'S DUANE? Reading further down: "(Exhibit L). Duane Nelson was not determined to be the son of John L. Nelson."

http://www.mncourts.gov/m...trator.pdf

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Reply #40 posted 07/20/16 6:51pm

laytonian

laytonian said:

http://www.mncourts.gov/m...trator.pdf

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Interesting documents, for sure.

The details of Sharon's complaint about Prince's accounting of the estate is interesting.
Prince distributed 1/4 each to the four children from his father's first marriage. Neither he nor Tyka are listed as getting a distribution.

Prince's signature gives me a headache wink
It's different every time he signed.

I'm wondering if he somehow thought HIS estate would be as easy to clear as this one?

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Reply #41 posted 07/20/16 7:08pm

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Mumio said:



Eileen said:




Mumio said:


I've seen several people stating "reply to subscribe" on different threads so I'm asking: am I the only person who has a "subscribe/end subscription" button at the top of each thread? I get notifications via email if there are new comments. Are people doing it this other way because they don't want email notifications?





Not sure about anyone else, but for me: When I subscribe using that button the subscription expires in 10 days. I asked in the site help if there was any way to have that extended or not expire and never received a reply, even after bumping. It gets ridiculous to end & resub a bunch of threads every 9 days.





Agreed!! If you do find an answer, please let me know...it's annoying as hell to run into that. Thanks.




laurarichardson, it's not being "taken over" confused , but this is the one thread where I saw people doing it so I asked the question. Sorry if that bothered you but that's what it's about. No doubt I would have heard about it if I started a new thread over it too wink

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I was not bothered I just think we ought to stay on topic. Just a suggestion.
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Reply #42 posted 07/20/16 7:15pm

laytonian

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USA Today just filed a simple discussion of who's in and who's out:

IN: All listed by Tyka in the original filing.

Some still to be determined

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http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2016/07/20/prince-heirs-declared/87360590/

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Reply #43 posted 07/20/16 7:23pm

Purpleone4Eva

The documents from the kids of Loyal James Gresham are kind of interesting, even if legally John L Nelson has been established conclusively as Prince's father. If true that his mother had an affair with this guy who was a friend to both of them, might explain some of the strain in his parent's relationship and some of the strain through the years in Prince's relationship with his father. Looks like John L wasn't divorced from his previous wife until well into Mattie Shaw's pregnancy either.

Or they could just be making shit up to try to get a cut. Still, interesing reading.

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Reply #44 posted 07/20/16 7:31pm

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laytonian said:



laytonian said:


http://www.mncourts.gov/m...trator.pdf



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Interesting documents, for sure.


The details of Sharon's complaint about Prince's accounting of the estate is interesting.
Prince distributed 1/4 each to the four children from his father's first marriage. Neither he nor Tyka are listed as getting a distribution.



Prince's signature gives me a headache wink
It's different every time he signed.



I'm wondering if he somehow thought HIS estate would be as easy to clear as this one?


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--- Is it me or is his sister bonkers. She rambled on and on about her brothers and sisters being the children of John. Would the birth certificates have been enough. There was no will so his Dad's estate was going to be evenly divided and she is caring on about some check she should gone ahead and cashed and the lawsuit she lost against Prince in 92. I really believe he did not set up will because he knew his siblings would contest it.
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Reply #45 posted 07/20/16 7:43pm

selah

..that's the thing with huge, blended families (I am part of one)..add to that a huge estate with potential for $$$..a will is a good idea, but on the other hand, can still be contested, ie James Brown's will. .8 years or something like that?!. .. yikes. .so maybe Prince saw that too .."Seems like the only thing he can do is just roll his eyes, and say that
money don't matter to night
it sure didn't matter yesterday...
just when you think you've got more than enough
that's when it all up and flies away…"
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Reply #46 posted 07/20/16 7:45pm

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laytonian said:

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USA Today just filed a simple discussion of who's in and who's out:


IN: All listed by Tyka in the original filing.


Some still to be determined


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http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/music/2016/07/20/prince-heirs-declared/87360590/


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--- ---- The distant cousins are getting nothing per Minnesota law. The Greshams sound like scam artist and anyone can see Prince looks like John but I can imagine if some running around was going that might have effected their relationship. I am also not surprised he was the product of an affair. Sad.
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Reply #47 posted 07/20/16 9:18pm

laytonian

laurarichardson said:

laytonian said:

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Interesting documents, for sure.

The details of Sharon's complaint about Prince's accounting of the estate is interesting.
Prince distributed 1/4 each to the four children from his father's first marriage. Neither he nor Tyka are listed as getting a distribution.

Prince's signature gives me a headache wink
It's different every time he signed.

I'm wondering if he somehow thought HIS estate would be as easy to clear as this one?

.

--- Is it me or is his sister bonkers. She rambled on and on about her brothers and sisters being the children of John. Would the birth certificates have been enough. There was no will so his Dad's estate was going to be evenly divided and she is caring on about some check she should gone ahead and cashed and the lawsuit she lost against Prince in 92. I really believe he did not set up will because he knew his siblings would contest it.

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I'm pretty sure I read that Prince's dad had dementia/Alzheimer's when he died (and that he had full-time caretakers). That could account for him writing out a check for $400K, which was about what his total estate totalled later. A lot of money for a man on a $3,000/month pension.

In the first filing for the estate, Prince listed his father's assets at $200. I'm starting to wonder if Louise DID cash the check, depleting the account to keep the money away from others.

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Reply #48 posted 07/20/16 9:36pm

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This is better than watching TV. Seriously? They are trying to say Mattie got around, huh? There are three claims (including John Nelson as Dad) that other men may be Prince's dad? I am beginning to make a chart of who is who. There are a few names that I have not been able to account for...so they must be the ones saying Prince was their Dad? Also, Omarr(Omar) has changed attorneys multiple times. Wasup with that? Daddy P's case is going to be litigated for YEARS.

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Reply #49 posted 07/20/16 10:47pm

tmo1965

Purpleone4Eva said:

The documents from the kids of Loyal James Gresham are kind of interesting, even if legally John L Nelson has been established conclusively as Prince's father. If true that his mother had an affair with this guy who was a friend to both of them, might explain some of the strain in his parent's relationship and some of the strain through the years in Prince's relationship with his father. Looks like John L wasn't divorced from his previous wife until well into Mattie Shaw's pregnancy either.

Or they could just be making shit up to try to get a cut. Still, interesing reading.

I think that everyone should take a dna test and be done with it. That way there is no need to drag dead people's names through the mud about stuff that happened 50 + years ago.

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Reply #50 posted 07/21/16 12:50am

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ISaidLifeIsJustAGame said:

This is better than watching TV. Seriously? They are trying to say Mattie got around, huh? There are three claims (including John Nelson as Dad) that other men may be Prince's dad? I am beginning to make a chart of who is who. There are a few names that I have not been able to account for...so they must be the ones saying Prince was their Dad? Also, Omarr(Omar) has changed attorneys multiple times. Wasup with that? Daddy P's case is going to be litigated for YEARS.


- I do not know about that the distant cousins are going to be ruled out. Some of the claims are so ridiculous I am sure they will thrown out and the court is not allowing third hand information as a reason to have a valid claim or a reason to have a blood test. The third hand information is how the Gresham got thrown out. I think only these possible heirs are going to get a DNA test because the Efron law firm may have some valid information. I do not think Prince's remains will go to a Reservation, the whole estate will not go to the dude in Ca, his foster care sister who is being stalked by the CIA or any of the other rambling nut bars because they no crediablity.
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Reply #51 posted 07/21/16 12:53am

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laytonian said:



laurarichardson said:


laytonian said:


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Interesting documents, for sure.


The details of Sharon's complaint about Prince's accounting of the estate is interesting.
Prince distributed 1/4 each to the four children from his father's first marriage. Neither he nor Tyka are listed as getting a distribution.



Prince's signature gives me a headache wink
It's different every time he signed.



I'm wondering if he somehow thought HIS estate would be as easy to clear as this one?


.



--- Is it me or is his sister bonkers. She rambled on and on about her brothers and sisters being the children of John. Would the birth certificates have been enough. There was no will so his Dad's estate was going to be evenly divided and she is caring on about some check she should gone ahead and cashed and the lawsuit she lost against Prince in 92. I really believe he did not set up will because he knew his siblings would contest it.

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I'm pretty sure I read that Prince's dad had dementia/Alzheimer's when he died (and that he had full-time caretakers). That could account for him writing out a check for $400K, which was about what his total estate totalled later. A lot of money for a man on a $3,000/month pension.

In the first filing for the estate, Prince listed his father's assets at $200. I'm starting to wonder if Louise DID cash the check, depleting the account to keep the money away from others.


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--/ It is possible and anytime you take money from someone with failing health you are beneath the lowest form of human life but despite all of that the siblings all live in houses Prince own.
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Reply #52 posted 07/21/16 3:14am

Sameyear58

laurarichardson said:

laytonian said:

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Interesting documents, for sure.

The details of Sharon's complaint about Prince's accounting of the estate is interesting.
Prince distributed 1/4 each to the four children from his father's first marriage. Neither he nor Tyka are listed as getting a distribution.

Prince's signature gives me a headache wink
It's different every time he signed.

I'm wondering if he somehow thought HIS estate would be as easy to clear as this one?

.

--- Is it me or is his sister bonkers. She rambled on and on about her brothers and sisters being the children of John. Would the birth certificates have been enough. There was no will so his Dad's estate was going to be evenly divided and she is caring on about some check she should gone ahead and cashed and the lawsuit she lost against Prince in 92. I really believe he did not set up will because he knew his siblings would contest it.

Very interesting stuff indeed. If I'm not mistaken, it was the deceased sister Lorna who filed the two lawsuits against Prince and their dad. One having to do with the song "U Got the Look" and the other regarding his estate.

I also noticed Sharon, Norrine and I believe John had the same or similiar documents regarding their childhood but what struck a chord with me was they all off Duane's name..period. And I could have sworn I had seen some place where Duane's parents were listed as John and Vivian Nelson (unless this is some other Vivian neutral).

Interesting stuff indeed but I sure feel for all those involved trying to untangle this mess, including weeding out those wasting time and money with false ridiculous claims. smh

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Reply #53 posted 07/21/16 5:06am

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Sameyear58 said:

laurarichardson said:

laytonian said: --- Is it me or is his sister bonkers. She rambled on and on about her brothers and sisters being the children of John. Would the birth certificates have been enough. There was no will so his Dad's estate was going to be evenly divided and she is caring on about some check she should gone ahead and cashed and the lawsuit she lost against Prince in 92. I really believe he did not set up will because he knew his siblings would contest it.

Very interesting stuff indeed. If I'm not mistaken, it was the deceased sister Lorna who filed the two lawsuits against Prince and their dad. One having to do with the song "U Got the Look" and the other regarding his estate.

I also noticed Sharon, Norrine and I believe John had the same or similiar documents regarding their childhood but what struck a chord with me was they all off Duane's name..period. And I could have sworn I had seen some place where Duane's parents were listed as John and Vivian Nelson (unless this is some other Vivian neutral).

Interesting stuff indeed but I sure feel for all those involved trying to untangle this mess, including weeding out those wasting time and money with false ridiculous claims. smh

Because some evidence was submitted doing John Sr probate case to show that Duane was not John's son and Duane received nothing from John Sr estate. I suspect the court will use that precedent to prevent Duane's daughter and granddaughter from receiving anything.

Sometimes when people push embarrassing stuff comes out. The daughter and granddaughter could have done their own research and found this information or asked their attorney to check before putting their business in the streets.

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Reply #54 posted 07/21/16 5:18am

tmo1965

laytonian said:

laytonian said:

http://www.mncourts.gov/m...trator.pdf

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Interesting documents, for sure.

The details of Sharon's complaint about Prince's accounting of the estate is interesting.
Prince distributed 1/4 each to the four children from his father's first marriage. Neither he nor Tyka are listed as getting a distribution.

Prince's signature gives me a headache wink
It's different every time he signed.

I'm wondering if he somehow thought HIS estate would be as easy to clear as this one?

.

No, it says that his father's estate was split by 1/5 to each child, excluding Prince. Tyka's name is listed as one of John's heirs.

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Reply #55 posted 07/21/16 5:35am

tmo1965

Sameyear58 said:

laurarichardson said:

laytonian said: --- Is it me or is his sister bonkers. She rambled on and on about her brothers and sisters being the children of John. Would the birth certificates have been enough. There was no will so his Dad's estate was going to be evenly divided and she is caring on about some check she should gone ahead and cashed and the lawsuit she lost against Prince in 92. I really believe he did not set up will because he knew his siblings would contest it.

Very interesting stuff indeed. If I'm not mistaken, it was the deceased sister Lorna who filed the two lawsuits against Prince and their dad. One having to do with the song "U Got the Look" and the other regarding his estate.

I also noticed Sharon, Norrine and I believe John had the same or similiar documents regarding their childhood but what struck a chord with me was they all off Duane's name..period. And I could have sworn I had seen some place where Duane's parents were listed as John and Vivian Nelson (unless this is some other Vivian neutral).

Interesting stuff indeed but I sure feel for all those involved trying to untangle this mess, including weeding out those wasting time and money with false ridiculous claims. smh

I think what they are saying is that John was not Duane's dad, which I find surprising since John IS listed on as the father on Duane's birth certificate.

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Reply #56 posted 07/21/16 5:47am

Sameyear58

Oh I agree LauraRichardson & TMO1965...the family has rallied together to show Duane did not share the same biological dad and I believe them. They know their family story/history. Just remembering Duane's birth certificate and I'm sure his daughter & granddaughter are trying to prove their inheritance largely based on it. This family tree... lol Just hope it all works out according to P's wishes.

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Reply #57 posted 07/21/16 5:58am

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tmo1965 said:



Sameyear58 said:




laurarichardson said:


laytonian said: --- Is it me or is his sister bonkers. She rambled on and on about her brothers and sisters being the children of John. Would the birth certificates have been enough. There was no will so his Dad's estate was going to be evenly divided and she is caring on about some check she should gone ahead and cashed and the lawsuit she lost against Prince in 92. I really believe he did not set up will because he knew his siblings would contest it.

Very interesting stuff indeed. If I'm not mistaken, it was the deceased sister Lorna who filed the two lawsuits against Prince and their dad. One having to do with the song "U Got the Look" and the other regarding his estate.



I also noticed Sharon, Norrine and I believe John had the same or similiar documents regarding their childhood but what struck a chord with me was they all off Duane's name..period. And I could have sworn I had seen some place where Duane's parents were listed as John and Vivian Nelson (unless this is some other Vivian neutral).



Interesting stuff indeed but I sure feel for all those involved trying to untangle this mess, including weeding out those wasting time and money with false ridiculous claims. smh



I think what they are saying is that John was not Duane's dad, which I find surprising since John IS listed on as the father on Duane's birth certificate.


--- John may have had his name listed as the father by the mom just to have a name on the birth certifcate or John could have put his name on the BC not be the biological father and not even have adopted Duane. There must have been some proof for Duane to get nothing from John Sr estate. The court is going to use that precedent to stop Duane's decedents from inheriting anything remember their attorney said the girls would not take a DNA test!!! There was a reason.
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Sameyear58 said:

Oh I agree LauraRichardson & TMO1965...the family has rallied together to show Duane did not share the same biological dad and I believe them. They know their family story/history. Just remembering Duane's birth certificate and I'm sure his daughter & granddaughter are trying to prove their inheritance largely based on it. This family tree... lol Just hope it all works out according to P's wishes.


--/ The whole family agreed he was not related and it is obvious that Prince made sure it was known by the court in his fathers probate case that Duane was not a blood - relative. Two more scammers gone and none of the rest seem credible. We do not about child heirs because the court sealed that information but simple blood test or previous test will clear it up quickly.
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Reply #59 posted 07/21/16 7:25am

laytonian

tmo1965 said:



laytonian said:




laytonian said:


http://www.mncourts.gov/m...trator.pdf



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Interesting documents, for sure.


The details of Sharon's complaint about Prince's accounting of the estate is interesting.
Prince distributed 1/4 each to the four children from his father's first marriage. Neither he nor Tyka are listed as getting a distribution.



Prince's signature gives me a headache wink
It's different every time he signed.



I'm wondering if he somehow thought HIS estate would be as easy to clear as this one?


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No, it says that his father's estate was split by 1/5 to each child, excluding Prince. Tyka's name is listed as one of John's heirs.



You didn't read the right document. Go to the very end where it lists the specific amounts each person would get.
There are four names with amounts of about $84,000 each.
Prince and Tyka are not listed there.
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