Mumio said:

JustErin said:

Mumio said: I'm gonna read 11 pages of nonsense? So weird that you won't just say her name.

Sorry, but sometimes there is information to be found in what some would term "nonsense". I do not want to be quoted anywhere so I am providing what people need to put it together for themselves. Paying attention is key to most things. If you don't want to look for it for yourself...well, I am sorry but I'm not going to just give a name. It's not like I personally am concealing anything...but people need to discover it for themselves.

It's someone called Nancy Poetess. Couldn't find any record of her performing with him.

Mumio said:

jjam said:

jjam said:

Mumio said:

Sorry, but sometimes there is information to be found in what some would term "nonsense". I do not want to be quoted anywhere so I am providing what people need to put it together for themselves. Paying attention is key to most things. If you don't want to look for it for yourself...well, I am sorry but I'm not going to just give a name. It's not like I personally am concealing anything...but people need to discover it for themselves.

It's someone called Nancy Poetess. Couldn't find any record of her performing with him.

Doesn't matter if you couldn't find the name. There's pictures of her on stage with him.

I think his death is fishy. I wouldn't be surprised if he died of something terminal outside of the fentanyl overdose, but according to "dr drew" that would have been on that report of cause of death. If he had a terminal disease that in any way contributed to his death, it would have been there for us all to see. I wouldn't be surprised if he and MJ were both murdered because of something to do with getting the rights back to their music, since they both died shortly after doing so, but of course there's no proof. I wouldn't be surprised if Prince somehow someway faked his death after reading some of this stuff out on the internet about that post done on godlike productions or wherever it was back 4 years ago by somebody thought to be prince entitled 1958 - 2016 and talking about elvis faking his death. It was pretty weird I gotta say, but of course there would have to be a lot of people in on that. There is nothing that would surprise me about things that happen to celebrity entertainers, especially ones of the elevated stature of Prince. And if he's dead of an overdose of fentanyl, that wouldn't surprise me either, but if you try to act like that couldn't have been prevented, at least an ACCIDENTAL overdose, then that's what I don't believe. I got called names back a few days ago by some sausage guy and he acts like it is no big deal whatsoever that the man was able to overdose, at least nobody followed him around like a puppy. Too bad they didn't. If he died of a fentanyl overdose period, it could have been prevented. Sorry, that's just the facts. If he died of a suicide, I don't know about that.

Prince faked his own death...please...

jpav said:

I've seen so many conspiracy theories here, so many people implying some hidden mystery, often alluding to something being "fishy", even with the coroner's report.

Prince's death was so many things: tragic, frustrating, sad, shocking, infuriating, but it isn't fishy.

He had years of chronic pain, became addicted to painkillers, was surrounded by yes men who enabled him, didn't believe he would die, and didn't stay in the hospital when he should have. He was alone most of the time and was alone when he died.

It's bad enough that we lost him. It magnifies the tragedy when people can't just allow reality to be what it is and not create a mystery that isn't there.

Well said, jpav.

Ace said:

jpav said:

I've seen so many conspiracy theories here, so many people implying some hidden mystery, often alluding to something being "fishy", even with the coroner's report.

Prince's death was so many things: tragic, frustrating, sad, shocking, infuriating, but it isn't fishy.

He had years of chronic pain, became addicted to painkillers, was surrounded by yes men who enabled him, didn't believe he would die, and didn't stay in the hospital when he should have. He was alone most of the time and was alone when he died.

It's bad enough that we lost him. It magnifies the tragedy when people can't just allow reality to be what it is and not create a mystery that isn't there.

Well said, jpav.

That's the same script that was used on the Michael Jackson Hoax. Funny how MJ "died" on the anniversary of Purple Rain as well.

jjam said:

Prince faked his own death...please...

puhleez Prince faked his own death....NO way...You miss the point jjam

cindyt said:

jjam said:

Prince faked his own death...please...

puhleez Prince faked his own death....NO way...You miss the point jjam

people on here miss the point a lot I've noticed. They take like one point out of a post and jump on it and start calling people names etc etc and they aren't even getting the jist of the post. Oh well.

Mumio said:

cindyt said:

I think his death is fishy. I wouldn't be surprised if he died of something terminal outside of the fentanyl overdose, but according to "dr drew" that would have been on that report of cause of death. If he had a terminal disease that in any way contributed to his death, it would have been there for us all to see. I wouldn't be surprised if he and MJ were both murdered because of something to do with getting the rights back to their music, since they both died shortly after doing so, but of course there's no proof. I wouldn't be surprised if Prince somehow someway faked his death after reading some of this stuff out on the internet about that post done on godlike productions or wherever it was back 4 years ago by somebody thought to be prince entitled 1958 - 2016 and talking about elvis faking his death. It was pretty weird I gotta say, but of course there would have to be a lot of people in on that. There is nothing that would surprise me about things that happen to celebrity entertainers, especially ones of the elevated stature of Prince. And if he's dead of an overdose of fentanyl, that wouldn't surprise me either, but if you try to act like that couldn't have been prevented, at least an ACCIDENTAL overdose, then that's what I don't believe. I got called names back a few days ago by some sausage guy and he acts like it is no big deal whatsoever that the man was able to overdose, at least nobody followed him around like a puppy. Too bad they didn't. If he died of a fentanyl overdose period, it could have been prevented. Sorry, that's just the facts. If he died of a suicide, I don't know about that.

None of what you suspect is plausible. The evidence is overwhelming that there was a drug problem with opiates which are more powerful than any other drug. He had some recent episodes that were harbingers of what was to come. There isn't much point in speculating otherwise.

Prince got his masters to his back catalog in 2014. Is 2 years considered "shortly after" ?

I also don't believe it's fishy. I certainly don't believe anyone murdered him, because I find it hard to find a motive. Because he was speaking out politically with songs like "Baltimore"? Because he was fighting for artists' rights? Then why not back in 1994-5 when he was much more high-profile than in 2016? Or even 2009? Let's be honest here - Prince still meant a whole lot to us, but I think most of the mainstream public would not have even been aware of Prince releasing any new music.

I think it is plausible that there may have been an underlying condition of which we aren't aware. I think it's also possible that there could have been an issue with conflicting prescriptions, which I suspect would come out in the wash if true.

Nonetheless, I don't think there was a sinister plan to kill Prince, and while we may not know the full details of the cause, I also believe we aren't entitled to expect any more than what has been made public. If Prince had some underlying condition, that's not our business to know.

Moonbeam said:

I also don't believe it's fishy. I certainly don't believe anyone murdered him, because I find it hard to find a motive. Because he was speaking out politically with songs like "Baltimore"? Because he was fighting for artists' rights? Then why not back in 1994-5 when he was much more high-profile than in 2016? Or even 2009? Let's be honest here - Prince still meant a whole lot to us, but I think most of the mainstream public would not have even been aware of Prince releasing any new music.

I think it is plausible that there may have been an underlying condition of which we aren't aware. I think it's also possible that there could have been an issue with conflicting prescriptions, which I suspect would come out in the wash if true.

Nonetheless, I don't think there was a sinister plan to kill Prince, and while we may not know the full details of the cause, I also believe we aren't entitled to expect any more than what has been made public. If Prince had some underlying condition, that's not our business to know.

JustErin said:

Mumio said:

Doesn't matter if you couldn't find the name. There's pictures of her on stage with him.

There are many pics of people on stage with him...nothing special about that. That's a normal Prince show - fans on stage dancing. Saw her FB. There are two pics that appear to show Prince on stage and neither show her "performing" with him. She comes off as a truly creepy obsessed fan living in a delusional world and nothing more. This is why she has been ignored here. Sad really. I feel sorry for people who are so desperate to be connected they make up these stories. [Edited 6/7/16 17:51pm]

Lol, you can think whatever you like my dear...but you are incorrect. You still aren't seeing everything there is to see and putting it together, but I'm done discussing this with you.

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Mumio said:

Moonbeam said:

I also don't believe it's fishy. I certainly don't believe anyone murdered him, because I find it hard to find a motive. Because he was speaking out politically with songs like "Baltimore"? Because he was fighting for artists' rights? Then why not back in 1994-5 when he was much more high-profile than in 2016? Or even 2009? Let's be honest here - Prince still meant a whole lot to us, but I think most of the mainstream public would not have even been aware of Prince releasing any new music.

I think it is plausible that there may have been an underlying condition of which we aren't aware. I think it's also possible that there could have been an issue with conflicting prescriptions, which I suspect would come out in the wash if true.

Nonetheless, I don't think there was a sinister plan to kill Prince, and while we may not know the full details of the cause, I also believe we aren't entitled to expect any more than what has been made public. If Prince had some underlying condition, that's not our business to know.

I thought I was done posting on this site, until I read your post. We're sort of on the same wave length. I believe there are details being withheld from the public concerning Prince. I also believe the details are being withheld for good reason(s).

x

If you think about it, and I'm projecting here (I've been doing this a lot since 4/21/16), but I believe most people live by the "need to know" rule when it comes to sharing details about their personal lives. There are some people that "need to know" certain things and then there are others that don't. I believe Prince's family may be more in control then we know.

x

Unfortunately or foturnately (according to how you look at it) I beleive most people fit in the "don't need to know" bucket.

x

I want to add that I feel everyone's pain. I truly do. I wish things could be different. But this is our new reality and we're going to learn to live in it. We're going to make him proud. Believe me.

x

Peace.

Shaolin325 said:

Moonbeam said:

I also don't believe it's fishy. I certainly don't believe anyone murdered him, because I find it hard to find a motive. Because he was speaking out politically with songs like "Baltimore"? Because he was fighting for artists' rights? Then why not back in 1994-5 when he was much more high-profile than in 2016? Or even 2009? Let's be honest here - Prince still meant a whole lot to us, but I think most of the mainstream public would not have even been aware of Prince releasing any new music.

I think it is plausible that there may have been an underlying condition of which we aren't aware. I think it's also possible that there could have been an issue with conflicting prescriptions, which I suspect would come out in the wash if true.

Nonetheless, I don't think there was a sinister plan to kill Prince, and while we may not know the full details of the cause, I also believe we aren't entitled to expect any more than what has been made public. If Prince had some underlying condition, that's not our business to know.

I thought I was done posting on this site, until I read your post. We're sort of on the same wave length. I believe there are details being withheld from the public concerning Prince. I also believe the details are being withheld for good reason(s).

x

If you think about it, and I'm projecting here (I've been doing this a lot since 4/21/16), but I believe most people live by the "need to know" rule when it comes to sharing details about their personal lives. There are some people that "need to know" certain things and then there are others that don't. I believe Prince's family may be more in control then we know.

x

Unfortunately or foturnately (according to how you look at it) I beleive most people fit in the "don't need to know" bucket.

x

I want to add that I feel everyone's pain. I truly do. I wish things could be different. But this is our new reality and we're going to learn to live in it. We're going to make him proud. Believe me.

x

Peace.

Thanks for the post. I also agree that most people fit into the "don't need to know" bucket. I understand others wanting to know more - I get it. Prince meant a lot to each and every one of us. He feels like family to many of us.

For me personally, knowing how private Prince was, I feel it's probably honoring his wishes to reveal only the absolute essentials with the public.

I like your optimism about making him proud. I think we will as well.

that's nice, and all, but I could care less about making a complete stranger Proud. I don't live with idols etc, it's against my moral code, and I don't live with blinders on, especially about someone I've only listened to for a month and a half....These artists are human beings ya'll, and the world is full of things we don't know or understand. Truth is, there isn't a soul on this board who knows for 100 percent certainty what happened to Prince. I'm not one of the people who deeply care either...I am truly sorry another person is dead...but I don't need answers. That allows me maybe to look at different things. I never believe what the "media" says...at face value, and you shouldn't either. But we each live by our own rules. so if it's important to you to make Prince proud...then so be it.

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

nursev said:

I'm sorry but there are a lot of pieces to this puzzle that are missing...so I'm saying it is fishy.

Exactly! I've personally known people that got high off heroin and that shit is no joke, so if fentanyl is supposedly 50 times stronger than heroin, and the day he died wasn't the first time he'd taken it, how in the fuck was he functioning and how in the fuck did the people closest to him not know he was high as all hell? I'm saying it's fishy too.

I'm with you both on this. It's still not sitting right with me.... I still can't get past the shadiness that no will has turned up and the fact that his bodyguard and closest associates saw no indication of addiction or dependency. Not saying if there was a conspiracy or foul play or not, but I am saying I'm not satisfied that all questions have been asked, and all avenues have been investigated.

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With Prince's net worth upwards of $300,000,000 (last I checked) I don't put it past NOBODY to pay someone off or threaten someone into changing their story--including the coroner. There is some seriously seedy sh*t going on in the music business and Prince had to have made enemies over the years: waking other artists up to the exploitation by the big record companies with industry-friendly contracts and digital streaming rights, going toe-to-toe with WB in the '90s, winning his masters back in 2014, and cutting out the middle man to sell his music over the internet in late '90s/early 2000's when few (if any?) other artists were doing it at that time. He had to have cost the music industry some money with each of these acts of rebellion, and had to have pissed off some big cahunas. Prince spoke truth to power and was subversive and he had a significant audience by way of a multigenerational, multinational and multicultural fan base, meaning he had the power to influence the opinions of a lot of people through his music. The fentanyl is likely all there is to the story, but then Prince's story was extraordinary--and not without its adversities. I just want the assurance that the investigation was conducted as thoroughly as possible, with a full accounting of all available evidence and that those details fall into alignment.

Anytime someone who is a multi millionaire dies and there is no will to be found or no beneficiaries listed in any contract he's ever signed you can expect questions.

With what we know about those hip and leg injuries is true then I suspect him to be on pain medication but fentanyl? They know he was on percocets. BUT fentanyl?

I don't give a damn about what type of drug tolerance that you have you are not going to be walking around on fentanyl like everything is OK, less alone perform on stage.

That being said here I believe the story I'm just not believing that this man was 100% healthy.

cindyt said:

jjam said:

Prince faked his own death...please...

puhleez Prince faked his own death....NO way...You miss the point jjam

You have said that you wouldn't be surprised that it happened, as well as him being murdered.

I don't buy it in any shape or form as even a mooted possibility.

Having the answers to what exactly happened or the background to his passing is something I'd like to know ideally, but it won't bring him back, and I totally respect the family and Minnesotan law's wishes to keep this undisclosed.

cindyt said:

that's nice, and all, but I could care less about making a complete stranger Proud. I don't live with idols etc, it's against my moral code, and I don't live with blinders on, especially about someone I've only listened to for a month and a half....These artists are human beings ya'll, and the world is full of things we don't know or understand. Truth is, there isn't a soul on this board who knows for 100 percent certainty what happened to Prince. I'm not one of the people who deeply care either...I am truly sorry another person is dead...but I don't need answers. That allows me maybe to look at different things. I never believe what the "media" says...at face value, and you shouldn't either. But we each live by our own rules. so if it's important to you to make Prince proud...then so be it.

You also do not live with proper grammar and punctuation.

It's creepy that someone, who never even listened to Prince, would join a board dedicated to him just because he died.

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JustErin said:

You joined the org on April 25, 2016. I think I've seen enough to put THAT together.

Well.....yes, you're absolutely correct that I joined on that date under this user name. But please don't consider me to be new here because I am not.

JustErin said:

cindyt said:

that's nice, and all, but I could care less about making a complete stranger Proud. I don't live with idols etc, it's against my moral code, and I don't live with blinders on, especially about someone I've only listened to for a month and a half....These artists are human beings ya'll, and the world is full of things we don't know or understand. Truth is, there isn't a soul on this board who knows for 100 percent certainty what happened to Prince. I'm not one of the people who deeply care either...I am truly sorry another person is dead...but I don't need answers. That allows me maybe to look at different things. I never believe what the "media" says...at face value, and you shouldn't either. But we each live by our own rules. so if it's important to you to make Prince proud...then so be it.

You also do not live with proper grammar and punctuation.

It's creepy that someone, who never even listened to Prince, would join a board dedicated to him just because he died.

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cindyt said:

JustErin said:

You also do not live with proper grammar and punctuation.

It's creepy that someone, who never even listened to Prince, would join a board dedicated to him just because he died.

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There you go again....now it's creepy or I'm creepy. There's nothing creepy about it. And just cause my opinion isn't matching your opinion, that doesn't make me creepy, a bastard, or whatever else I've been called in this particular thread. What do YOU know about my sudden interest in Prince? Absolutely. Do I have a reason for it? Yes. Do you know what it is? No. Boo hoo for you. We are all here for our own reasons and interests.

JustErin said:

There are many pics of people on stage with him...nothing special about that. That's a normal Prince show - fans on stage dancing. Saw her FB. There are two pics that appear to show Prince on stage and neither show her "performing" with him.

She comes off as a truly creepy obsessed fan living in a delusional world and nothing more. This is why she has been ignored here.

Sad really. I feel sorry for people who are so desperate to be connected they make up these stories.

In a way it doesn't matter if a lot of them are made up or true. They're all being nonsensically inflated as meaningful planetary events rather than the largely pointless piffle of daily living they actually are.

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