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WOW, what is that old saying? It's Lonely @ the top, judging by all the great talents that we have lost to some type of drug use, there is a huge price that comes with "Fame"! | |
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This is very sad... - It seems to me that Prince was in pain (as per Sheila E)...but also never really conquered his inner demons - something some of us are forever haunted by... - Just gutted...tragic... is an understatement - No point speculating...as a Coroner once said to me when my Brother committed suicide..."you will never get the answer you are looking for..." - Take care my purple brothers and sisters...I hope we all reconcile this autopsy without too much pain.... - Prince, wherever you are...thank you...and I hope that you are free... - Now off to listen to where he felt most at peace...in his music... - Will be a restless night tonight - It will be weird for a few days...
[Edited 6/2/16 18:00pm] ~Shakalaka!~..... ~Mayday!~ | |
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xRachx said: Can't stop crying. Oh Prince Thought I was starting to get used to him gone....but today and this news...the sadness...the anger.....oh Prince | |
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Marrk said:
No. You're reaching with your translation. If it's a criminal investigation, it's about how, why and who got him HIS painkillers. I could get my Mrs to get me some opiates tomorrow that she's entitled to but I'm certainly not, If i took them and died.. Who would be responsible?
. It's a mess and desperately sad, but i think some fans need to accept Prince made his own decisions and was responsible for himself. Hard to accept but that's how it appears.
[Edited 6/2/16 16:30pm] Your wife could possibly get charged with reckless homicide if she acquired pills, gave them to you, and they caused your death. Surprise, surprise.
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Post here, thanks. 
Genesia said: I feel like he just died all over again. Reading this...tears again... | |
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I am sorry for your Loss- | |
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I don't understand how it can be concluded with any certainty that this was an "accidental" overdose? Are there any statistics to show what percent of people have accidentaly overdosed on opiates TWICE IN A WEEK, once near-fatal and then fatal? It has to be an exremely minute number. Reading that he was wearing all black and weighed 112 pounds when they found him in the elevator just adds to the growing list of suspicions that an intentional overdose is a possibilty. Absent a suicide note, how would anybody but Prince truly know? | |
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Rest in peace Prince. No more pain. This man went through this to continue doing what he loved. Music and fans. Huge thanks to him for that. See you when I get there. L4OA. "I don't make the rules. I just play" | |
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Like a ton of bricks...simply heartbreaking The greatest live performer of our times was is and always will be Prince.
Remember there is only one destination and that place is U All of it. Everything. Is U. | |
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PeteSilas said:
well, it's true, they told us everything about michael, saying he lost about an inch of his hairline and had it tattoed in black. I'm not making shit up. Lol geez MJ... Prince took really good care of himself for the most part it seems. There probably wasn't much to report. We know he had no tattoos, no visible scars... This report does seem less detailed than others I've seen. My sister's showed levels of everything she had. Like down to milligrams. But we don't live in MN. You'd have to find another OD ME report from Carver for comparison- but I really doubt there was anything "extra" to report. MJ had a lot going on. Surprise, surprise.
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didn't they say that mj wasn't a hardcore addict at the time of his death? I thought that they found he had relatively nothing else in his system, he just had a fuckup for a doctor and the crazy idea that he could rest with propofol. | |
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KRTREE said:Charm4ever asked if he didn't even have one friend. This really choked me up all over again. Can I just add some insight on addiction? I will not speculate on whether or not Prince was an addict or not but I would like to interject a little about addiction from a personal perspective because I think some education about the illness might be of some help . People who use (insert drug of choice) are simply trying to feel better. Once we get the correct feeling of relief from whatever we are using the brain craves it. We are now addicts. We cannot simply choose to stop. The part of your brain that is responsible for that choice has been hijacked. Please remember that the addict’s job is to stay addicted. So isolating and secretiveness become a way of living and we learn to quickly adapt our lifestyle to fit our habit. Some symptoms addicts try to get relief from are loneliness, fear, doubt and insecurity. Addicts are intelligent, loving, sensitive, creative and caring people. We walk among you daily lying to ourselves and hoping you will not discover our secret. We are professionals with careers, families and friends…so far, but eventually that will go away as well. By definition, even if the next hit might be the one that kills us, an addict has to do what addicts do. There is a tremendous amount of pain in addiction. I have nothing but compassion for those that suffer. Someone who truly cared for me saved me from myself. I was willing and I was lucky. I am incredibly sad that Prince didn’t have anyone. Like Charm4ever asked, Wasn't there anyone? You know who Prince was or you wouldn’t be here reading. If you have forgotten, go back and listen to that audio recording from 1981. https://youtu.be/O0MXqmUCN9U People who are generally content with life and at peace with their place in it don't feel the need to make art. It's the dispossessed, the rejected that have a need to save their lives by creating something. Prince tried everyday and we will benefit from his creativity forever. Thank you KRTREE for your intelligent reply. Being a junkie, an addict or being dependant is simply a play on words. One doesn't choose it, but once used (for whatever reason) your brain NEEDS it to function .... and know that it is not only opioids that causes addiction, it is also a lot of mental health meds, like Effexor. [Edited 6/2/16 18:25pm] Need me some fuzzy love....and yes, I wear clear heels | |
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why r people acting surprized or something else has surfaced......the only question is why wasnt anyone or himself dilligent in what he was taking to avoid the fatal 2nd OD??? | |
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BeauGurl said: I don't understand how it can be concluded with any certainty that this was an "accidental" overdose? Are there any statistics to show what percent of people have accidentaly overdosed on opiates TWICE IN A WEEK, once near-fatal and then fatal? It has to be an exremely minute number. Reading that he was wearing all black and weighed 112 pounds when they found him in the elevator just adds to the growing list of suspicions that an intentional overdose is a possibilty. Absent a suicide note, how would anybody but Prince truly know? One way they could have concluded that it was an overdose is based on the levels of the drugs in his system. Also by examining his behaviors at the time. im sure they know much more than we do at this point. "Where you are now is in a place that does not require time." - Rest In Power, PRINCE | |
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I've been wanting the Trinity Hospital in Moline to be looked into more because I want to know why he was refused a private room which would be reasonable given he always had paparazzi on his tail and that someone like that might very well refuse vital medical treatment if that was denied -- but there's something else that came to mind tonight. I want to know if that hospital, after administering the "save shot", gave him clear instructions about when/how/HOW MUCH fentanyl to use going forward. Some other thought I have: I don't think Prince was excruciatingly lonely. He was loved by a lot of friends. I do think that someone who had so many feelings about romantic love might've longed for that if he didn't have it, and that could've causes some feeling sIf loneliness. I don't believe Prince was a true addict; I believe he became dependent on pain relievers. Did he at some point also need or crave the emotional pain numbing the pain relievers offered too? Only God knows that, probably. seems he might've had that hip surgery given there was a scar. I did read that somewhere. Bottom line is, he did nothing wrong. It's just tragic - except for the fact that I do believe he's in a place where he is happy now. We will miss him - but we also will all die someday too. In the meantime, who can we help? That's something Prince helped me think about, in all of his imperfect humanness. | |
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BeauGurl said: I don't understand how it can be concluded with any certainty that this was an "accidental" overdose? Are there any statistics to show what percent of people have accidentaly overdosed on opiates TWICE IN A WEEK, once near-fatal and then fatal? It has to be an exremely minute number. Reading that he was wearing all black and weighed 112 pounds when they found him in the elevator just adds to the growing list of suspicions that an intentional overdose is a possibilty. Absent a suicide note, how would anybody but Prince truly know? It's actually a really high number. Staggering in fact. Opioids are serious business and it's just wiping America out. It affects people of all ages, races, genders, economic, and social classes. It is SO easy to get hooked. Just google OpioidEpidemic online and you will be shocked. Sometimes I think it's being used as chemical warfare to wipe out our nation. Why drop bombs when you can hit us at our weakest and let us do ourselves in? Ask yourself why when the Taliban controlled the poppy fields things were ok, now Americans guard them and people are falling out left and right and again instead of doing something to treat the problem at its core, we get more drugs to treat drugs... Methadone, Suboxone, Narcan. Band-aides. Pray for America. We are killing ourself. Surprise, surprise.
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God how I love and miss that beautiful man. It makes me sick thinking of the day when some people will say, Prince who, oh yeah I remember him.... admission is easy, just say U believe, then come 2 this place in your heart. | |
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the only answer I can think of is that he only had spineless, weak people around him who wouldn't do anything. I hate people like that, but they do happen to be everywhere. People are scared of everything. | |
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I still don't believe it was drugs, They are lying. Isn't that the same drug that they say Michael Jackson died from? Prince was too health concious too long to go out this way. I will go to my grave believing that there is foul play involved!!!!!!!!!! They always want to blame it on drugs. Look folks- so say he had allowed someone to stay at Paisley that night but just asked not to be bothered. He goes down to the studio and does whatever and falls out, even if someone was there it doesn't mean they would have found him in time. Even if they had narcan on them, it doesn't do any good unless you got eyes on a person 24/7. It was his time to go. Sucks it had to be this way but there was a reason. That reason may not be clear now but as someone also said- it all comes out in the wash, in time. Hang tough all you True Purple Funk Soldiers, it's coming. Surprise, surprise.
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no, michael died from propofol, i don't think that's even an opiod, not that i know much about drugs. but Propofol is what they use in hospitals to put you out when they operate, no way it should have been in a home setting. | |
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no, michael died from propofol, i don't think that's even an opiod, not that i know much about drugs. but Propofol is what they use in hospitals to put you out when they operate, no way it should have been in a home setting. | |
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Thank you Charm4ever...appreciated! - My lesson after my own...was - that we will never know what was in Prince's mind or spirit or body (or anyone that passes in such unnatural circumstances). - So I just let it out - and then enjoy the good memories. - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7TlFgj9jZ8 - Love...Hx ~Shakalaka!~..... ~Mayday!~ | |
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He od'ed when he knew the dr's were coming the next morning......and was going to have to face the pain and suffering of rehab.......it's too bad he couldn't have redirected his career into producing. Honestly, I don't think he had too many good people around him.They left him alone when he needed them. He had sycophants with him..he needed a good woman..an equal with with him to help him see his way through.....He would still be here. He had all the money in the world. It's so sad and selfish on so many levels. I'm so disappointed that someone so brilliant could be so oblivious to this danger. He could have lived longer. WHY DIDN'T HE LISTEN TO HIS BODY???? | |
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Word. Besides being a musician, multi-instrumentalist, and audio engineer, I'm also pretty well equipped in Psychology. There are several "signs" that he knew what was coming, as we know he always had foresight. The photo at the piano tells all. . His entire artistic message has always been to overcome obstacles, break barriers, and unite. Let's not forget that Prince, besides being the most brilliant musician, lyricist, songwriter, arranger, and performer of all time, always fought to live in the everlasting now. He beat everything in his life by himself, and his way. He almost beat this... I believe that he thought he could... I can relate. I'm a loner/survivor. [Edited 6/2/16 18:52pm] "He's a musician's musician..." |
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i assume pride and stubborness, top athletes are the same, Muhammad Ali could have lived the second half of his life as an even greater man than he was in his youth but he denied all the signs telling him to stop boxing. Pride and ego are the devil. | |
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That scar on his left hip, go on the photo thread and there are a few pictures from I don't remember the 80's or 90's when his pants were down low below hip level and you can see the scar. So either he had surgery very early on or I don't know why it would be there. in the same place. Since the 2000's he has kept his body pretty much covered admission is easy, just say U believe, then come 2 this place in your heart. | |
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nursev said:
indeed it is The band aid just ripped off the scab- Fresh wound with the news;  | |
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I feared this. | |
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