and now the real shit show begins.........

terrig said:

so sad.

http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/princes-cause-of-death-opioid-overdose-20160602

I've never wanted to hug somebody so much and can't.

Knowing how he suffered makes me appreciate him even more if that's possible and I'm glad I was never hypercritical of him.

kapo74 said:

Still nothing official. Source is someone (an official???) close to the investigation. So not part of the investigating team, per se! No news from Midwest Medical Examiner's office. Just tweeted them, waiting for reply. [Edited 6/2/16 9:35am]

Thank you. Perhaps we will get the full official report tomorrow?

BanishedBrian said:

langebleu said:

I was expecting this or a version of it. I suppose the pain had gotten to be so bad that normal doses were no longer effective so he may have self medicated. This is pure speculation on my part. I just wish he was not alone during this crisis. Perhaps someone could have performed CPR.

The startribune article is the best one with the most info - there was anemia as well. I'm kind of amazed how he was able to function at all....I've been anemic and I could hardly hold up my own head, i think his nutrition didnt help him through any of this ...and it sounds like pain pain pain deplete deplete deplete until eventual collapse. The overdose could have been the normal dose if he was underweight at the time.

Dealing with the addiction and it seems like not dealing with the addiction led Prince to be unable to make proper choices because he was impaired and couldnt acknowledge it...poor poor Prince. If only someone could have gotten through to him sooner.

Smookie said:

BanishedBrian said:

StarTribune, which I consider the most plugged in and balanced outlet on this story, also reports a source with knowledge has confirmed opioid OD: http://www.startribune.co...381663221/

Agree about the Star Tribune being a good source. I am wondering that since Schulenberg did not prescribe opioids, whether Prince was getting them from an illicit source, thus the lengthy investigation. So sad. I just don't get how someone would OD in an elevator from ingesting pain pills. I've never heard of a sudden collapse...it's always been a "fall asleep..stop breathing" type of thing in the cases I know of, which sadly, are far too many. And the ones I know if were all injecting, the effects of which would be more sudden. So I'm still perplexed.... [Edited 6/2/16 10:27am] [Edited 6/2/16 10:28am]

I can see it. I almost died of an accidental overdose, and I never even realized I had fallen asleep. I can imagine being in an elevator and just dropping.

[Edited 6/2/16 11:14am]

spastic78 said:

I know I did OD on Tramadol and Percosets as I was taking a lesser dose than prescribed but more frequently. But my OD was in the form of respiratory distress and later a seizure.

may i ask how much you were taking / how frequently?

80spfantwp said:

Sending my best wishes to all fellow fans on the org, The next few days are gonna be rough. Let's please help each other out xx [Edited 6/2/16 10:20am]

Yes, I believe you are right.

Smookie said:

I just came across this in a prince group on facebook

http://www.anokacounty.us...View/10066

may you rest in peace now beloved mr.prince

[Edited 6/2/16 11:44am]

[Edited 6/2/16 11:45am]

schnupp said:

I just came across this in a prince group on facebook

http://www.anokacounty.us...View/10066

may you rest in peace now beloved mr.prince

[Edited 6/2/16 11:44am]

[Edited 6/2/16 11:45am]

Yup. It's on their official website. Fentanyl overdose...

babynoz said:

kapo74 said:

Still nothing official. Source is someone (an official???) close to the investigation. So not part of the investigating team, per se! No news from Midwest Medical Examiner's office. Just tweeted them, waiting for reply. [Edited 6/2/16 9:35am]

Thank you. Perhaps we will get the full official report tomorrow?

I find it funny that the ME hasn't said anything yet but everyone else is saying something.

The supposed OD may turn out to be something totally different in the light of the ME report.

People just trying to get paid on his name still.

I have no words...I need a hug and now I'm tearing up. WHY PRINCE WHY?!

well if that document is an official one, it breaks my heart, that first of all, we all get to read those personal details which really are none of our business. and then it even breaks my heart more to read that he didn't even have his pyjamas on
he must have laid there for ages then. oh this all is so very, very sad. if only it all would have went differently. I just hope so very much he was not scared. but just fell aslepp very fast.

love to you all, purple family. what a sad day.

[Edited 6/2/16 11:55am]

terrig said:

The startribune article is the best one with the most info - there was anemia as well.

Has no one noticed the press release embedded in the Star Tribune article? It lists the cause of death as fentanyl toxicity

BklynDiamond said:

babynoz said:

Thank you. Perhaps we will get the full official report tomorrow?

I find it funny that the ME hasn't said anything yet but everyone else is saying something.

The supposed OD may turn out to be something totally different in the light of the ME report.

People just trying to get paid on his name still.

No, this info is STRAIGHT from the ME office. It's posted on the site. Offical COD is a Fentanyl overdose.

Bebop17 said:

terrig said:

The startribune article is the best one with the most info - there was anemia as well.

Has no one noticed the press release embedded in the Star Tribune article? It lists the cause of death as fentanyl toxicity

You are right. Nothing else. Cause of death was Fentanyl toxicity. And make no mistake...Fentanyl is a notorius killer. Abuse generally results in death...

ThirdStrike said:

BklynDiamond said:

I find it funny that the ME hasn't said anything yet but everyone else is saying something.

The supposed OD may turn out to be something totally different in the light of the ME report.

People just trying to get paid on his name still.

No, this info is STRAIGHT from the ME office. It's posted on the site. Offical COD is a Fentanyl overdose.

Ok, now I am officialy angry/despondent. Fentanyl? The adverse reactions around this drug are numerous, one being severe respiratory depression. Whoever rx'd this, or got it from whereever for Prince, should be investigated, becauase if true then it's even more disturbing, as it simply did not have to happen.

Bebop17 said:

terrig said:

The startribune article is the best one with the most info - there was anemia as well.

Has no one noticed the press release embedded in the Star Tribune article? It lists the cause of death as fentanyl toxicity

And as I read the report, that is the ONLY cause, listed as #1...with the other spots, #2-4 being "n/a." I figured there was an underlying medical issue that was aggravated by the fentanyl...does this mean there is NO other illness?? No drug interaction??

ThirdStrike said:

Prior to Prince's passing there was quite a lot of press in N CA, Ohio and also FL regarding very dangerous street Norco tablets that were causing an alarming rate of OD's

"On Friday, Sacramento County public health officials announced that a dozen people had overdosed in just 48 hours from what appeared to be Norco pills laced with fentanyl, an opiate about 80 times stronger than morphine and 100 times stronger than heroin."

http://ktla.com/2016/03/29/28-people-overdose-6-fatally-on-tainted-street-drugs-in-sacramento-county/ (March 29, 2016)

I wondered when I heard of his OD if this is possibly related, now I'm even more curious.

[Edited 6/2/16 12:11pm]

Smookie said:

ThirdStrike said:

You are right. Nothing else. Cause of death was Fentanyl toxicity. And make no mistake...Fentanyl is a notorius killer. Abuse generally results in death...

Sadly, it seems he was wearing what he was wearing in the Walgreens parking lot. He could have died very soon after being dropped off at PP. My goodness, he barely weighed anything. And drugs are harder on a small person, especially when one hadn't eaten. Sigh. Fentanyl. Damn. And that's that then.

Yup. That's that. Not the shift is to proper healing and acceptance. Love the man. Love the music. That'll never change. But I also now know the man was human and therefor susceptible to human weakness and flaws. Now that it's real though, hopefully we can begin the healing process...

Okay, so maybe this has been discussed before...but please enlighten me.

Are opioids the SAME as fentanyl?

Is percocet the SAME thing as fentanyl??

I know nothing about pain pills, besides what I've read about here on the .org.