Wow! What a horrible topic for discussion and the comments are down right ignorant.

GeniusLuv said:

violectrica said:

jimmy3121 said:

Truth Saw it with my own eyes....Atlantic City Show....he started in on " The One" Mayte was behind out of most folks view dressed all in white and waiting to come in....he stopped the song and said " No I'm not feeling that tonight"....Mayte was not too happy....Mayte never came to the stage.

Not true....Mayte was never at a show in Atlantic city.....

meltedman said:

jimmy3121 said:

Truth Saw it with my own eyes....Atlantic City Show....he started in on " The One" Mayte was behind out of most folks view dressed all in white and waiting to come in....he stopped the song and said " No I'm not feeling that tonight"....Mayte was not too happy....Mayte never came to the stage.

Not true....Mayte was never at a show in Atlantic city.....

Six pages of nonsense - and that's what you weigh in on?

Genesia said:

meltedman said:

Not true....Mayte was never at a show in Atlantic city.....

Six pages of nonsense - and that's what you weigh in on?

Exactly. Non-sense...not gonna waste mine or anybodies time....but 99 percent of the shit here is speculation and inaccurate.....so why bother....

LBrent said:

Mayte is such a sweetheart, I can't stop loveing her...


I love Mayte....

endiadj said:

LBrent said:

endiadj said:

Ahmir/Amir was their first child's name. I've always thought that after everything that happened in their marriage, loss of their kids, nannygate, Prince's battle with WB at the time, seeing Mayte was too painful for him, so he kept her at a distance after their divorce. All of that sadness would come rushing back to him in her presence. Unfortunately we never got to see him with Denise, except 3 or 4 pics. Would've loved to have seen their interactions/body language with each other. Purple Rain, what could've been... We do know without a doubt that Prince was the only man she ever loved.

I'm confused. I don't remember the name Ahmir, but I do remember at the time the full term baby was called Boy Gregory by Oprah. Am I misremembering that???

After P passed she stated in an interview that they had named the baby Ahmir, arabic for Prince. Pretty sure the baby was part of their confidentiality agreement she signed after the divorce, so maybe with P's passing she felt like she could finally say his name wasn't boy gregory. At the time of his birth Prince has instructed the baby's nanny to make up a name to put on the birth cert and she chose baby boy gregory.

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violectrica said:

jesme1999 said:

I agree with y'all . I have been watching tons of Youtubes and remembering a lot , and one thing that strikes me is that I never saw him look at another woman like he did Mayte , he seemed so much happier than I had ever seen him when things were good with them.He had a glow about him , his eyes sparkled. When they were on shows being interviewed, even when he was facing and speaking to the host he was always touching Mayte and if he moved his hands he was always reaching back to touch her , make sure she was by his side. She was his touchstone,when they would be walking off he always waited and took her by the hand .He was very tender and loving with her , no wonder she has had a hard time getting over him. As for Mayte , she looked at him with such adoration it was palpable . I think they were clearly very much in love . I almost feel that if Manuela had not been waiting in the wings they may have patched it up, but then there's the pesky little problem of Larry Graham and Mayte wasn't having it , and good for her for standing up for her own beliefs . I was once in a relationship with a man I thought was my Prince Charming. When a totally devastating event occurred in y personal life he was a total Dick about a lot of things at the beginning and said some very hurtful things to me that he later was sorry for and although I forgave him the damage had been done, Quite sure the talk of pregnant women using hair dye and nail polish felt like a dagger in her heart like the things my ex said during my life crisis. Perhaps that is one of the things she forgave him for, well, that and Manuella . I don't know what all went down , but I like some others here feel that if he had just been able to work it out with her he may be with us today . I have always thought that Prince just never seemed the same after the baby and the split with Mayte . That said, I'm not saying that he didn't have a love for Vanity, but I do feel he absolutely adored Mayte and she him.. That's just my two cents and what the heck do I really know about any of it , I just find it tragic.

excuse me what? Nail polish and hair dye?!? Oh no. That doesn't cause genetic defects. What a shit thing to say. I thought he was a genius wtf.

Prince reminds me of Miranda from SATC. If the relationship is not working, no longer exist, the women for him. Or it seems from the outside if you looking on this.

CROWNS1 said:

CROWNS1 said:

PurpleBabied said:

CROWNS1 said:

After P passed she stated in an interview that they had named the baby Ahmir, arabic for Prince. Pretty sure the baby was part of their confidentiality agreement she signed after the divorce, so maybe with P's passing she felt like she could finally say his name wasn't boy gregory. At the time of his birth Prince has instructed the baby's nanny to make up a name to put on the birth cert and she chose baby boy gregory.

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I don't know whether it was part of the divorce agreement or her just continuing to follow his lead in how they talked about their child but it must have hurt Mayte so much not to be able to say her son's name in public. The people I know who lost kids nearly full term or soon after birth made a point of formally mourning and referring to their kid by their given name.To this day they count those short lived children as part of their number of children.

I lost a son shortly after he was born as well, and he had a name, and a funeral and he has always been a part of our family. I think P's whole reaction to that was odd. i can't imagine going through it in a fish bowl. Trust me, it's a horrible thing to go through with your family/friends, let alone if you are famous and press gets ahold of it. Hope he was able to make peace with it.

GeniusLuv said:

PurpleBabied said:

1) She was already super young when they did marry. 22 is the youngest he could marry he without making it look like he's checking a clock, because she would have been fully adult legally at 21 (including the right to drink.) In Minnesota, the age of consent is 16. People can get married of their own volition at 18; if he wanted to get the court and her parents involved he could have married her at 16 or 17.

He did care about looking creepy to the general public. What was the "Morning Papers" about? Also, early 20s is a great time physically to have kids. Any earlier and you see risks associated with teen pregnancies.

2) Who knows? Maybe he was traumatized by the kids dying, and maybe he only wanted to be a father to biological children within marriage.

In the red...

It reminds me of another (i believe) JET article where he said (right around the time he married Mayte) how everyone thought he would marry Vanity..i thought that was very telling bcuz the guy asked you about marrying Mayte and INSTEAD you bring up an EX that people thought you were 'going to marry instead' someday..i was floored by that. Can u imagine your man that got u pregnant/fiance/husband talking about another woman, from his past, that he obviously still thinks about making a statement like that???

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Why mention another woman and a 'what could have been marriage' to that EX instead of talking about you and your marriage.....so weird???

Yeah, I saw that. Vanity had recently made a comment about him in the press, saying she was "Worried about his (Prince) spirit". Prince went on to say that, "Everybody thought I was gonna marry Vanity". Then he said that he was where she was at the moment, "connected to spirit". Meaning he was fine. He also said in the same aritcle, "When you are in love with someone, you can see God. God is love; real love is perfect" (speaking of Mayte). Sometimes we read too much into things, to try and bend things into what we want them to look like and be. But, truth is, niether of those women were in Prince's life when he left here...

Empress said:

Wow! What a horrible topic for discussion and the comments are down right ignorant.

I think some of the comments are very thought provoking. For me, it's not all about Prince, because some of these situations these celebrities find themselves in are a reflection of our own lives and relationships.

icequeen78 said:

Maybe it didn't work out with him and vanity because they were two intense personalities that needed time and distance between them for them to mature before they got together but by that time she had sworn off his lifestyle and even though he became religious she didn't want to go back down that road with him since he was still in the music world ... I have been in a relationship like that...it's intense and while the love may fade ..it never dies... in fact when prince died my ex told me that he would always love me and that he hopes nothing ever happens to me because he wouldn't be able to deal. And I feel the same way and we've moved on from each other for years... there is something about love in youth that just cements itself into your psyche

That's because we as Humans don't know how to let go and move on to people. Just because some people have an intense effect on you doesn't mean they are meant to be a permanant part of your life.

Plenty of times in life, God and the Universe pushes us up and away from people in our lives so we can move on and grow. It is US that keeps going back to old habits, old paths, old flames.

Here is what I really think about this couple, and then I'm done with this:

Prince and Mayte were either in love or in Lust or loved passionantly or whatever you want to call it.

They had challenges. They couldn't get past those challenges. It didn't work out. He ended it and moved on.

Just because you get married to somebody doesn't mean that person is the one you are suppossed to be married too. Even if you do love them.

It's a sad fact but it's true.

dreamer218 said:

irresistiblebitch666 - Great posts. I've never understood why fans hate on Mayte so much. (OR why there is so much competition amongst certain fans regarding his past loves) I personally don't believe Mayte ever cheated on him or did anything to be worthy of a kiss off song. I think he crushed her when he left and she's been in love with him all this time. It just doesn't add up to me. Even after everything she's never said anything bad about him. She's always maintained that she loved him. When Prince died I actually wished Mayte was in a will somewhere too. Just because I know she'd put his music first. She'd run his estate right and dare anyone to stand in her way. And not for money just out of love. She'd bring his entire crew together, past and present, for the benefit of his fans and keeping his legacy alive. It'd be nice to have the estate run by someone who truly loved him and not by someone motivated by money. (lawyers, various family members, etc) As you said, she was around 10 years. The longest out of anyone - and not just personally. She was there in the trenches professionally too right beside him. Her having a hand in the estate is a pipe dream more than likely but a nice thought nonetheless.

No way does Mayte need to be into any of Prince's affairs. All it would do is keep her thinking of him and stuck in the past and not be able to move on with her life. From what I have seen, Mayte seems to be a super sensitive woman and I think she probobly grieved/cried an awful lot after the death of those children, which got on Prince's nerves and he also could not handle the stress (and may be the reason he swallowd that bottle of asprin and drank four bottles of wine) http://prince.org/msg/5/336650 In all honesty, they needed counseling after that ordeal. But once again, Prince, being the way that he is, didn't want anyone, "In thier business"

Has anyone mentioned the mother? Seems like she was always....there.

endiadj said:

GhostChick said:

icequeen78 said:

Maybe it didn't work out with him and vanity because they were two intense personalities that needed time and distance between them for them to mature before they got together but by that time she had sworn off his lifestyle and even though he became religious she didn't want to go back down that road with him since he was still in the music world ... I have been in a relationship like that...it's intense and while the love may fade ..it never dies... in fact when prince died my ex told me that he would always love me and that he hopes nothing ever happens to me because he wouldn't be able to deal. And I feel the same way and we've moved on from each other for years... there is something about love in youth that just cements itself into your psyche

That's because we as Humans don't know how to let go and move on to people. Just because some people have an intense effect on you doesn't mean they are meant to be a permanant part of your life.

Plenty of times in life, God and the Universe pushes us up and away from people in our lives so we can move on and grow. It is US that keeps going back to old habits, old paths, old flames.

PaisleyPrint said:

GhostChick said:

That's because we as Humans don't know how to let go and move on to people. Just because some people have an intense effect on you doesn't mean they are meant to be a permanant part of your life.

Plenty of times in life, God and the Universe pushes us up and away from people in our lives so we can move on and grow. It is US that keeps going back to old habits, old paths, old flames.

GREAT RESPONSE!!!!!!

This is now what i believe in life.

I have had it happen to me with friends, boyfriends...just relationships in general. I guess the longer u are on this planet the more u realize most things are not 4eva and you have to keep..moving on..and a long the way u learn so much!!!

Also, i wanted to add everyone says Mayte lost 2 babies. Did she ever say that??? Were they both with Prince???

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Bcuz the few times she's been open about her life as a mother before she adopted, she only discusses 1 child, her son and his birth and passing..never mentions her and Prince had another child or that she was ever pregnant after that.

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If it were a very early miscarriage, that may be why. Both my sisters-in-law had early miscarriages and neither mentions them at this point bcuz they went on to each have more, healthy kids....so that may be why.

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Just curious, she only mentions baby Ahmir.

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I've also always found it interesting with ALLLLLLL the women Prince was with that he never had 2, 3...10 kids running around. Most musicians have multiple kids and usually with multiple women; Rod Stewart, Steven Tyler, Mick Jagger, etc. Prince was either super careful or he just wasn't meant to be a dad, no everyone is meant to be a parent, either by their choice or by God's.

From what I gathered, it sounded like the relationship was too intense for him and was pulling him away from his music because of that. Here's an excerpt taken from Paper Mag's 1999 cover story interview with Prince:

A lot is virtual in the Artist's world, where fading backdrops of past lives fold neatly into psychic origami boxes. He shows no signs of regret, depression, maladjustment or freakishness from cutting off his past life. In fact, he is rooted in a self-awareness and humor that are absolutely charming. His life seems to be distinctly separated into B.M. and A.M.—before meeting his wife, Mayte, and after Mayte. For instance, when discussing the machinations of record companies, the Artist interrupts the flow to ask if he can interject a personal anecdote about his marriage. (As if I'm going to say no.) The word in the media had been that after a total bliss package of a marriage, they were getting divorced.

What the Artist goes on to say is that wanting a monopoly on his lady had become the marital version of owning someone else's masters. From what he says, and from what others say, theirs has been an intensely romantic relationship, a kind of you-and-me-against-the- world vibe. But both felt it was starting to get weird. "We were drawing energy from strange people around us. Strange words and numbers, bad contracts. We had to step away from that," he explains. For a person who still uses "4" in place of "for" in song lyrics, the relationship between numbers and contracts—both personal and financial— weaves complicated, interrelated secret messages. He traces the origin of the marriage contract to Pontius Pilate organizing the consensus to crucify Jesus, but the short version of the story is that it was screwing up the Artist's world. He describes a relationship that some might categorize as vaguely co-dependent—for a while he couldn't even give an interview without Mayte present. "I could not have sat in a room alone with some- one like you" (meaning young, female and not totally butt), he tells me. Relying on someone so deeply, not to mention feeling possessive, jealous and the other emotions that go with having someone be "yours," was dangerous and, more to his point, deluded."At first you might think that your mate is the God," the Artist reflects, "but you'd better hope that God is speaking through your mate." They are not divorced. Quite the contrary. They are happily joined, having transcended the mental and emotional bondage of marriage. When not floating among the astral planes, the couple like to spend time in Spain, in their lovely new house near Gibraltar, which will soon be featured in another form of virtual reality, Vanity Fair. (The Artist is still a rich guy, like some of the best social radicals.) "We pretend it didn't even happen," he says of the marriage. "Like a lot of things in life I don't like, I pretend it isn't there and it goes away. We decided to go back to the Garden."

Does all this mean they've transcended the physical boundaries of the marriage bond too? The other question, post-"divorce," is monogamy. Considering his reputation as an international lover, one wonders, is the Artist good to the yoni? "They always exaggerate," he says quite demurely, alluding to the baker's dozen of high-profile women he's been teamed with in the press throughout his career. I tell him I saw Warren Beatty on Charlie Rose scoffing at the idea of monogamy in a modern marriage as basically some medieval throw- back. Beatty indicated that it's just not part of the animal. (After getting that close to Halle Berry onscreen, I could see why—no disrespect, Annette.) The Artist calls upon higher powers for his answer: "Let's say I'm monogamous with God," providing better counsel for Clinton than his lawyers did.

Here's a link to the article: http://www.papermag.com/p...72669.html

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Sounds like an all encompassing, hormonal, teenage romance that became overwhelming and, as was said in the article, a very co-dependent thing...like a drug...you can't survive like that and losing a baby probably just cemented his wanting to flee. He may have known things weren't right b4 then but wanted to see the marriage through bcuz of the baby on the way.

Also the non-contract union thing was silly, he just wanted to NOT be married anymore..he did that and said all that to her (and the world) not break things off in a cold-bastard manner bcuz he probably felt bad, considering all they went through 2gether..interesting read. Thanks!

And yes i heard his form of mongomy was only ''to God'' LOL......ohhh that Prince