Mumio said:

From what I gathered, it sounded like the relationship was too intense for him and was pulling him away from his music because of that. Here's an excerpt taken from Paper Mag's 1999 cover story interview with Prince:

A lot is virtual in the Artist's world, where fading backdrops of past lives fold neatly into psychic origami boxes. He shows no signs of regret, depression, maladjustment or freakishness from cutting off his past life. In fact, he is rooted in a self-awareness and humor that are absolutely charming. His life seems to be distinctly separated into B.M. and A.M.—before meeting his wife, Mayte, and after Mayte. For instance, when discussing the machinations of record companies, the Artist interrupts the flow to ask if he can interject a personal anecdote about his marriage. (As if I'm going to say no.) The word in the media had been that after a total bliss package of a marriage, they were getting divorced.

What the Artist goes on to say is that wanting a monopoly on his lady had become the marital version of owning someone else's masters. From what he says, and from what others say, theirs has been an intensely romantic relationship, a kind of you-and-me-against-the- world vibe. But both felt it was starting to get weird. "We were drawing energy from strange people around us. Strange words and numbers, bad contracts. We had to step away from that," he explains. For a person who still uses "4" in place of "for" in song lyrics, the relationship between numbers and contracts—both personal and financial— weaves complicated, interrelated secret messages. He traces the origin of the marriage contract to Pontius Pilate organizing the consensus to crucify Jesus, but the short version of the story is that it was screwing up the Artist's world. He describes a relationship that some might categorize as vaguely co-dependent—for a while he couldn't even give an interview without Mayte present. "I could not have sat in a room alone with some- one like you" (meaning young, female and not totally butt), he tells me. Relying on someone so deeply, not to mention feeling possessive, jealous and the other emotions that go with having someone be "yours," was dangerous and, more to his point, deluded."At first you might think that your mate is the God," the Artist reflects, "but you'd better hope that God is speaking through your mate." They are not divorced. Quite the contrary. They are happily joined, having transcended the mental and emotional bondage of marriage. When not floating among the astral planes, the couple like to spend time in Spain, in their lovely new house near Gibraltar, which will soon be featured in another form of virtual reality, Vanity Fair. (The Artist is still a rich guy, like some of the best social radicals.) "We pretend it didn't even happen," he says of the marriage. "Like a lot of things in life I don't like, I pretend it isn't there and it goes away. We decided to go back to the Garden."

Does all this mean they've transcended the physical boundaries of the marriage bond too? The other question, post-"divorce," is monogamy. Considering his reputation as an international lover, one wonders, is the Artist good to the yoni? "They always exaggerate," he says quite demurely, alluding to the baker's dozen of high-profile women he's been teamed with in the press throughout his career. I tell him I saw Warren Beatty on Charlie Rose scoffing at the idea of monogamy in a modern marriage as basically some medieval throw- back. Beatty indicated that it's just not part of the animal. (After getting that close to Halle Berry onscreen, I could see why—no disrespect, Annette.) The Artist calls upon higher powers for his answer: "Let's say I'm monogamous with God," providing better counsel for Clinton than his lawyers did.

Here's a link to the article: http://www.papermag.com/p...72669.html

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I kinda always felt that prince got back FROM manuella what he did TO mayte! And manuella didn't just leave prince, she moved on in a biiiiiiiig way; new husband, 2 babies, etc. ----------------- They say what you put out into the world, always comes back to you....maybe this was an example of that very thing?

GeniusLuv said:

PaisleyPrint said:

dreamer218 said:

irresistiblebitch666 - Great posts. I've never understood why fans hate on Mayte so much. (OR why there is so much competition amongst certain fans regarding his past loves) I personally don't believe Mayte ever cheated on him or did anything to be worthy of a kiss off song. I think he crushed her when he left and she's been in love with him all this time. It just doesn't add up to me. Even after everything she's never said anything bad about him. She's always maintained that she loved him. When Prince died I actually wished Mayte was in a will somewhere too. Just because I know she'd put his music first. She'd run his estate right and dare anyone to stand in her way. And not for money just out of love. She'd bring his entire crew together, past and present, for the benefit of his fans and keeping his legacy alive. It'd be nice to have the estate run by someone who truly loved him and not by someone motivated by money. (lawyers, various family members, etc) As you said, she was around 10 years. The longest out of anyone - and not just personally. She was there in the trenches professionally too right beside him. Her having a hand in the estate is a pipe dream more than likely but a nice thought nonetheless.

No way does Mayte need to be into any of Prince's affairs. All it would do is keep her thinking of him and stuck in the past and not be able to move on with her life. From what I have seen, Mayte seems to be a super sensitive woman and I think she probobly grieved/cried an awful lot after the death of those children, which got on Prince's nerves and he also could not handle the stress (and may be the reason he swallowd that bottle of asprin and drank four bottles of wine) http://prince.org/msg/5/336650 In all honesty, they needed counseling after that ordeal. But once again, Prince, being the way that he is, didn't want anyone, "In thier business"

Well, as far as I know he actually overdosed on April 21, 1996, (link to org thread which discusses this) which was before his child died and Mayte was still pregnant (kid passed in October).

People will think what they want about the eerie coincidence he passed of an overdose 20 years to the morning on which he overdosed and survived.

LBrent said:

I can't find any other ex that he stayed away from after it was over except M. Even with Vanity, it always seems to be her staying away from him, but not him staying away from her. I think whatever he and M went through was too painful for him to deal with and he ran, emotionally and physically, then legally as an added measure. I think it was immature and cruel to M, but for all that he was chronologically nearly 40 years old, I think he was emotionally an immature teenager. Being loved unconditionally when you're emotionally damaged can be hard to accept. Add a catastrophe like losing a very happily anticipated baby, he did the only thing he could to get himself emotionally safe...he ran, then put as many barriers up as he could to those deep feelings by trying to erase M from his world. Definitely immature and beyond cruel to M, but I think it was a selfpreservation move because he loved her so much that he couldn't tolerate the pain. What I think is even more tragic is that I think he married Manuela thinking she would get him over the pain, but it didn't. If anything, I think it made it worse. I have no proof, but I suspect what ended that marriage was Manuela wanting babies and P not wanting to take the chance of more loss. I think he loved M up until his passing and I think M still loves him up until today. Just my 2 cents. [Edited 7/10/16 9:34am]

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There's something else: Pfeiffer Syndrome is associated with "paternal age effect" (fathers over age 35 have more chance of having FGFR2 gene mutations).

We all know that men continue to produce new sperm all their lives and women are born with all the eggs they'll ever produce. In Pfeiffer, it really is a paternal issue. By the time a man is 40, his sperm has regenerated over 600 times and there's more chance of mutations to be carried through. Sometimes, things just copy wrong. It's not caused by anything one does or does not do.

The chances of a second child with Pfeiffer Syndrome are 50% if that modification exists in the FGFR2.

If Prince and Mayte had genetic counseling, the news may have been very bad for him. I've wondered if that second pregnancy's loss was also associated with Pfeiffer.

http://www.omim.org/entry/101600

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LBrent said:

GeniusLuv said:

I kinda always felt that prince got back FROM manuella what he did TO mayte! And manuella didn't just leave prince, she moved on in a biiiiiiiig way; new husband, 2 babies, etc. ----------------- They say what you put out into the world, always comes back to you....maybe this was an example of that very thing?

Yaaaaaaas! And am I imagining that Manuela looks like Vanity?

Yes, a very strong physical resemblance, both Canadian, etc.

PurpleBabied said:

PaisleyPrint said:

No way does Mayte need to be into any of Prince's affairs. All it would do is keep her thinking of him and stuck in the past and not be able to move on with her life. From what I have seen, Mayte seems to be a super sensitive woman and I think she probobly grieved/cried an awful lot after the death of those children, which got on Prince's nerves and he also could not handle the stress (and may be the reason he swallowd that bottle of asprin and drank four bottles of wine) http://prince.org/msg/5/336650 In all honesty, they needed counseling after that ordeal. But once again, Prince, being the way that he is, didn't want anyone, "In thier business"

Well, as far as I know he actually overdosed on April 21, 1996, (link to org thread which discusses this) which was before his child died and Mayte was still pregnant (kid passed in October).

People will think what they want about the eerie coincidence he passed of an overdose 20 years to the morning on which he overdosed and survived.

Could it have been associated with physical pain....i mean b4 the fentenyl use

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laytonian said:

LBrent said:

I can't find any other ex that he stayed away from after it was over except M. Even with Vanity, it always seems to be her staying away from him, but not him staying away from her. I think whatever he and M went through was too painful for him to deal with and he ran, emotionally and physically, then legally as an added measure. I think it was immature and cruel to M, but for all that he was chronologically nearly 40 years old, I think he was emotionally an immature teenager. Being loved unconditionally when you're emotionally damaged can be hard to accept. Add a catastrophe like losing a very happily anticipated baby, he did the only thing he could to get himself emotionally safe...he ran, then put as many barriers up as he could to those deep feelings by trying to erase M from his world. Definitely immature and beyond cruel to M, but I think it was a selfpreservation move because he loved her so much that he couldn't tolerate the pain. What I think is even more tragic is that I think he married Manuela thinking she would get him over the pain, but it didn't. If anything, I think it made it worse. I have no proof, but I suspect what ended that marriage was Manuela wanting babies and P not wanting to take the chance of more loss. I think he loved M up until his passing and I think M still loves him up until today. Just my 2 cents. [Edited 7/10/16 9:34am]

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There's something else: Pfeiffer Syndrome is associated with "paternal age effect" (fathers over age 35 have more chance of having FGFR2 gene mutations).

We all know that men continue to produce new sperm all their lives and women are born with all the eggs they'll ever produce. In Pfeiffer, it really is a paternal issue. By the time a man is 40, his sperm has regenerated over 600 times and there's more chance of mutations to be carried through. Sometimes, things just copy wrong. It's not caused by anything one does or does not do.

The chances of a second child with Pfeiffer Syndrome are 50% if that modification exists in the FGFR2.

If Prince and Mayte had genetic counseling, the news may have been very bad for him. I've wondered if that second pregnancy's loss was also associated with Pfeiffer.

http://www.omim.org/entry/101600

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I did read this about Pfeiffer Syndrome on wikipedia i believe it was, that its from the fathers side and that age is a factor, etc.

GeniusLuv said:

Never saw and still don't see the resemblance of Manuela to Vanity.

I believe Prince moved on from Manuela long before she moved on from him tho... Kind of like how he moved on from Mayte a few years into their marriage.