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Reply #30 posted 05/15/16 8:27pm

spastic78

violectrica said:

jesme1999 said:




I agree with y'all . I have been watching tons of Youtubes and remembering a lot , and one thing that strikes me is that I never saw him look at another woman like he did Mayte , he seemed so much happier than I had ever seen him when things were good with them.He had a glow about him , his eyes sparkled.
When they were on shows being interviewed, even when he was facing and speaking to the host he was always touching Mayte and if he moved his hands he was always reaching back to touch her , make sure she was by his side. She was his touchstone,when they would be walking off he always waited and took her by the hand .He was very tender and loving with her , no wonder she has had a hard time getting over him.
As for Mayte , she looked at him with such adoration it was palpable .
I think they were clearly very much in love . I almost feel that if Manuela had not been waiting in the wings they may have patched it up, but then there's the pesky little problem of Larry Graham and Mayte wasn't having it , and good for her for standing up for her own beliefs .
I was once in a relationship with a man I thought was my Prince Charming.
When a totally devastating event occurred in y personal life he was a total Dick about a lot of things at the beginning and said some very hurtful things to me that he later was sorry for and although I forgave him the damage had been done,
Quite sure the talk of pregnant women using hair dye and nail polish felt like a dagger in her heart like the things my ex said during my life crisis.
Perhaps that is one of the things she forgave him for, well, that and Manuella .
I don't know what all went down , but I like some others here feel that if he had just been able to work it out with her he may be with us today .
I have always thought that Prince just never seemed the same after the baby and the split with Mayte .
That said, I'm not saying that he didn't have a love for Vanity, but I do feel he absolutely adored Mayte and she him..
That's just my two cents and what the heck do I really know about any of it , I just find it tragic.
excuse me what?

Nail polish and hair dye?!? Oh no. That doesn't cause genetic defects. What a shit thing to say.
I thought he was a genius wtf.


Loneliness and religion is a dangerous combination no matter how genius you are...desperate to fit in you'll forget your ABCs.
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Reply #31 posted 05/15/16 8:57pm

dreamer218

witnessmystyle said:

Why was she pictured with the Twins last year? True they are all about on the same (low to barely any) talent level. Seemed like another pimp move to u$e talentless younger women for publicity 3way loser

Yes, she was in a Babyface video for his song We've Got Love last year with the Twins. She posted it on her IG as did one of the twins. Mayte's caption was something like it not feeling like work because they had so much fun on set. I don't think they are friends or anything... it was work. Really don't think it was a "pimp" move as you say. They were in a video and took a pic after hanging out all day.

Wasn't Mayte in another Babyface video where she played his love interest? I recall her rolling around in a bed while he plays guitar. I don't recall the name of that song though. Maybe that's why Babyface asked Mayte to be in this one? His wife Nikki is around Mayte's age and they are both dancers so I'm sure they're friendly as well.

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Reply #32 posted 05/15/16 11:22pm

PeteSilas

i read that he thought god was punishing him for his sins by having a deformed baby. It's strange because people were saying foreboding things about him a long time ago. Brown Mark said something to the effect that he had to know that he would have to pay for the way he treated people someday and that he must have accepted that.

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Reply #33 posted 05/16/16 12:20am

witnessmystyle

Yes, those ingedients DO cause and have been linked to Birth defects/Cancer/etc. As painful as the experience must have been, nature was sending a signal. M. was not meant to be a biological mother at that time. If she wasn't a Catholic/or had any common sense/courage; the cells (fetus) could have been terminated when they saw the scans before the birth. Thus, sparing much of the pain they were then forced to endure. From recent film/actions, she is as ill eqipped now as she was then. I feel sorry for her adopted child & hope she get's some type of mental health counseling. Clearly, those who surround her are enablers or just as ignorant as she is. She is teaching her child the way to fortune/money/attention is thru using your looks/body and your association to males. She is the antithesis of feminism and it is laughable she gets awards for "empowering" women and young girls when her behavior/history is essentially that of a groupie and defined by the males she has been sexually involved with. Very sad.

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Reply #34 posted 05/16/16 12:33am

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spastic78 said:

violectrica said:

excuse me what?

Nail polish and hair dye?!? Oh no. That doesn't cause genetic defects. What a shit thing to say.
I thought he was a genius wtf.


Loneliness and religion is a dangerous combination no matter how genius you are...desperate to fit in you'll forget your ABCs.

--- Once again it is called sadness and disappointment. He could not understand why this was happening to them. You start to look for reasons even if they are irrational. Remember that was Prince's baby too.
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Reply #35 posted 05/16/16 1:31am

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twinkieG said:

FunkiestOne said:

She went on "Hollwyood Ex's" and I"m sure that annoyed him. They must have broken up for a reason, so not surprised if they didn't talk.

Agreed, I was just saying this recently. Her going on a televised reality show is the ANTITHESIS of how Prince conducted his affairs. It probably grossed him right out. It's very...common...so to speak. What the common people do. Royalty doesn't air their dirty laundry for public consumption!

She asked him about the show before she did it. He gave her his blessing as she explained it wasn't about him as such. Just called Ex's as she was an ex wife.

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Reply #36 posted 05/16/16 1:44am

Rebeljuice

witnessmystyle said:

Yes, those ingedients DO cause and have been linked to Birth defects/Cancer/etc. As painful as the experience must have been, nature was sending a signal. M. was not meant to be a biological mother at that time. If she wasn't a Catholic/or had any common sense/courage; the cells (fetus) could have been terminated when they saw the scans before the birth. Thus, sparing much of the pain they were then forced to endure. From recent film/actions, she is as ill eqipped now as she was then. I feel sorry for her adopted child & hope she get's some type of mental health counseling. Clearly, those who surround her are enablers or just as ignorant as she is. She is teaching her child the way to fortune/money/attention is thru using your looks/body and your association to males. She is the antithesis of feminism and it is laughable she gets awards for "empowering" women and young girls when her behavior/history is essentially that of a groupie and defined by the males she has been sexually involved with. Very sad.

Fuck me, did I just read that? Im not sure you are in any position to be advising mental health counceling to anyone.

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Reply #37 posted 05/16/16 2:23am

yellowday

IT doesn't matter whether she cheated on him or not.There are things that bond you forever. Being married and having babies together, sure does. Even if they split up he could have taken care of her better. It was his duty. And somewhere I read that she still got money after their divorce. But money is nothing when it comes to love.He left her alone in crisis.
He was a genius, but not a good husband. People are not perfect.
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Reply #38 posted 05/16/16 5:25am

dreamer218

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She went on "Hollwyood Ex's" and I"m sure that annoyed him. They must have broken up for a reason, so not surprised if they didn't talk.

Prince was private so I get why he might have been turned off by the very idea of her doing a tv show but she never said anything that I think would have pissed him off. She never really even referenced the relationship specifically other than to say she hated her wedding dress but he liked it. Nelly said he was "too controlling" but Mayte said she'd forgiven him and moved on. I remember her saying she didn't want to "make him mad" at one point during the show. I think she was very conscious of her words regarding him. She also told the producers that she'd signed a NDA and couldn't talk about him. That she wanted to do the show for herself so she could heal and move on. She said she told them if they expected it to be about Prince then she'd be wasting their time. She said all of this in various interviews while promoting the series. The show was very much about things from HER perspective not having anything to do with Prince. The only thing I recall that was said that Prince might not have liked is something Sheree said to the other women. Mayte wasn't even there when it was filmed. Sheree said that she knew people who knew Prince and Mayte had even told them (privately, perhaps?) that Prince just left (Spain?) the marriage. That he just left and that was it. Alluding to the fact that Prince made the call and Mayte just had to accept it. They were talking about how Mayte never got closure and how she might have been jealous of them because they all left their famous exes (and not money cuz they had kids) and she didn't. Sheree went on to say that Prince couldn't deal with having a "sick" child. Then she questioned him and said what did that say about him as a man. That he was used to being surrunded by pretty things (women, surroudings) and then had a child that wasn't perfect. That she had heard he couldn't deal with it. But it wasn't Mayte who said anything like that. She was extremely vague when talking about him directly and always gave generic responses. I don't know but it sounded to me that he was just done with her and discarded her like yesterday's trash. Personally, I think that may be whey she's had such a hard time over the years. That along with losing their children. She was young too. Being so young and him being her first love, first sexual experience and father to her deceased child. She's bonded to him. Time doesn't nulify that. They were deeply in love, grew apart due to Amir's death and he just seemed to bail. Seems like she might have been blind sided by it. That would suck for anyone.

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Reply #39 posted 05/16/16 6:21am

2elijah

lwr001 said:

She was at a 3121 show at teh rio and when he was doing song of the heart he went and hugged her


Yep, I was there and saw that too. He walked across the stage around the side by the tables, while he was singing and hugged her.
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Reply #40 posted 05/16/16 6:24am

jimmy3121

Truth Saw it with my own eyes....Atlantic City Show....he started in on " The One" Mayte was behind out of most folks view dressed all in white and waiting to come in....he stopped the song and said " No I'm not feeling that tonight"....Mayte was not too happy....Mayte never came to the stage.

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Reply #41 posted 05/16/16 7:29am

stinasings

jimmy3121 said:

Truth Saw it with my own eyes....Atlantic City Show....he started in on " The One" Mayte was behind out of most folks view dressed all in white and waiting to come in....he stopped the song and said " No I'm not feeling that tonight"....Mayte was not too happy....Mayte never came to the stage.




Really? Ooooo that's messed up
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Reply #42 posted 05/16/16 7:50am

terrig

yellowday said:

IT doesn't matter whether she cheated on him or not.There are things that bond you forever. Being married and having babies together, sure does. Even if they split up he could have taken care of her better. It was his duty. And somewhere I read that she still got money after their divorce. But money is nothing when it comes to love.He left her alone in crisis. He was a genius, but not a good husband. People are not perfect.



This is the simple truth, much as I love Prince.

Maytes mom, screwed her over before she was old enough to be a fully formed person really. Much like Britney Spears Mayte was exploited by her mother, and Prince. Prince only loved her as much as she embodied his unrealistic expectation of female perfection. The second llifes ugly side reared its head as it does in REAL life...he bailed on himself, Mayte, and the marriage. I believe he was overcome with feelings he couldnt process - then Mani plays clean-up sweeps up the mess and sails off in to the sunset.

The whole thing is just sad and queasy-making. sad



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Reply #43 posted 05/16/16 9:18am

nelcp777

I think, in my opinion, Prince handeled the situation with Mayte and thier loss the way Prince always has, music. I have never met the man, but I am speculating. It seems his comfort was music. Instead of turning to Mayte, he went to the studio and hit the road for a tour. That was maybe his way of dealing with the pain and loss.

Prince seemed like he could be hot and cold. I think with the breakup, he went cold to minimize the pain and loss. Again, my opinion. I do think Mayte truly loved him. And I think he loved her dearly too.

When he passed, you can see the pain in her eyes. She took it very hard. That in itself says somehting.

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Reply #44 posted 05/16/16 9:25am

avajane

terrig said:



yellowday said:


IT doesn't matter whether she cheated on him or not.There are things that bond you forever. Being married and having babies together, sure does. Even if they split up he could have taken care of her better. It was his duty. And somewhere I read that she still got money after their divorce. But money is nothing when it comes to love.He left her alone in crisis. He was a genius, but not a good husband. People are not perfect.



This is the simple truth, much as I love Prince.

Maytes mom, screwed her over before she was old enough to be a fully formed person really. Much like Britney Spears Mayte was exploited by her mother, and Prince. Prince only loved her as much as she embodied his unrealistic expectation of female perfection. The second llifes ugly side reared its head as it does in REAL life...he bailed on himself, Mayte, and the marriage. I believe he was overcome with feelings he couldnt process - then Mani plays clean-up sweeps up the mess and sails off in to the sunset.

The whole thing is just sad and queasy-making. sad




I'd like to think that Mayte's mother wanted Mayte to find success as a dancer and she thought Prince would give her that exposure to find success. I don't think she ever realized that Prince would marry Mayte. And Mayte did find success and exposure as a dancer working with Prince, sadly their marriage was unsuccessful but life is unfair that way.
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Reply #45 posted 05/16/16 9:26am

lwr001

PeteSilas said:

i read that he thought god was punishing him for his sins by having a deformed baby. It's strange because people were saying foreboding things about him a long time ago. Brown Mark said something to the effect that he had to know that he would have to pay for the way he treated people someday and that he must have accepted that.

it could be the chickens coming home to roost... people act t;ike Prine is god like; news flash,,he is very talented but not GOD...he hass his short comings anbd character defects like us all..Sometimes, as I tell my daughter , you have to pay for your learning and that payment may just be your life if you are not careful

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Reply #46 posted 05/16/16 9:34am

headtripparade

I obviously know zilch about the situation as I was not a fly on the wall, but based on what I can see as an outsider I think they did love each other, but something was off.

I always thought it was kind of odd the way she just stared at him when they would sit for interviews as if she was told to do so, or as if she just didn't know what else to do. She also seemed to look to him a lot as she was giving an answer as if to ask permission or get coaching. It could've also simply been that she was just so young.

That is in stark contrast to her now. Be it right or wrong that she went on a reality show, she is a completely different person than she was when she was with him. I can't say whether or not it's a result of her getting away from him or simply growing older and coming into herself, but she seems far more confident and aware of who she is.
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Reply #47 posted 05/16/16 10:18am

twinkieG

I think the Manuela marriage was him atoning for his sins. Trying it out with a

seemingly humble, nice, charitable religious gal. After a couple decades of thinking

with his *beep*. I wonder why she divorced him?! What a dum dum.

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Reply #48 posted 05/16/16 11:16am

yellowday

I think if there is one positive aspect about his death, then it is her chance to emancipate from him and show the world that one can survive loving Prince.

She should write a book. Writing is therapeutic.

DonĀ“t get me wrong. I am a fan of his music and my personal loss is immense. Still I am looking forward to all the new releases from the vault if there ever will be some in my lifetime.

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Reply #49 posted 05/16/16 11:18am

keenly

beacheemom said:

Did Prince and Mayte ever try to get back together? Wo seeing also if they were on good terms?

He left her ass. She always loved him.

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Reply #50 posted 05/16/16 11:18am

dreamer218

jimmy3121 said:

Truth Saw it with my own eyes....Atlantic City Show....he started in on " The One" Mayte was behind out of most folks view dressed all in white and waiting to come in....he stopped the song and said " No I'm not feeling that tonight"....Mayte was not too happy....Mayte never came to the stage.



We're they together when this happened?
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Reply #51 posted 05/16/16 11:25am

keenly

yellowday said:

IT doesn't matter whether she cheated on him or not.There are things that bond you forever. Being married and having babies together, sure does. Even if they split up he could have taken care of her better. It was his duty. And somewhere I read that she still got money after their divorce. But money is nothing when it comes to love.He left her alone in crisis. He was a genius, but not a good husband. People are not perfect.

He was a terrible husband. The people are not perfect argument is a cop out. Nobody is perfect but what Prince did was horrible. He cheated on Mayte with multiple women. He pressured her into losing weight, not eating meat, following his religion. He then dumped her ass.

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Reply #52 posted 05/16/16 11:26am

keenly

witnessmystyle said:

Yes, those ingedients DO cause and have been linked to Birth defects/Cancer/etc. As painful as the experience must have been, nature was sending a signal. M. was not meant to be a biological mother at that time. If she wasn't a Catholic/or had any common sense/courage; the cells (fetus) could have been terminated when they saw the scans before the birth. Thus, sparing much of the pain they were then forced to endure. From recent film/actions, she is as ill eqipped now as she was then. I feel sorry for her adopted child & hope she get's some type of mental health counseling. Clearly, those who surround her are enablers or just as ignorant as she is. She is teaching her child the way to fortune/money/attention is thru using your looks/body and your association to males. She is the antithesis of feminism and it is laughable she gets awards for "empowering" women and young girls when her behavior/history is essentially that of a groupie and defined by the males she has been sexually involved with. Very sad.

You are a horrible troll. You speak nothing but ignorance.

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Reply #53 posted 05/16/16 11:36am

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She went through a lot with him from 1992-2000. Not just their personal relationship but also his whole name change, fight with WB, becoming a JW etc. He married a dancer and made her a singer and performer but let her do neither after the wedding. And then he became frustrated/bored etc.

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Reply #54 posted 05/16/16 12:04pm

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I only feel heartache when I think of their relationship. They clearly were madly in love at one time. You could see it in their eyes. People who knew them at the time even said so. I get that they had challenges along the way, but how do you go from that deep, mutual love to basically abandoning your wife and the marriage? It's obvious she never got over being dumped so cruelly, and honestly I'm not sure I could either. Even so many years later he didn't seem to be interested or concerned about her well-being, but Prince did say he never looked back, never thought about the past. Very sad. I'm sure his own upbringing left him broken to some degree which would affect his own personal relationships. Still he was an intelligent man and should have recognized the pain his actions would cause mayte. Given how he loved her so at one time wouldn't that give you pause to rethink those actions?
Let that be a lesson to any other "stage mothers" out there: Be careful what you wish for!
It's a hurtful place, the world, in and of itself. We don't need to add to it. We all need one another. ~ PRN
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Reply #55 posted 05/16/16 12:10pm

Lizzypoo

My heart breaks for Prince and Mayte! I think they were too, too rich, too famous and had too many people around them that were using them for their own self interests. If they had loving parents around them to gude them through life's disappointments and tragedies, they may have had a lasting life together. But, with Mani around wanting Prince, and Larry around wanting to convert Prince -- no one was looking out for and supporting this young couple.

As an aside, has anyone heard if Capriccio Caesar (Jordon Nelson) is Prince's love child? I heard him sing Pray - and it broke my heart - it sounded like he was seeking truh about who he was. He has a beautiful voice - and is slim like prince - and also shares some bone structure of Prince's. I also head that he traveled o tour with Prince and the 3rd Eye Girl - but can't find anything about that for sure.

https://soundcloud.com/wesalemusic/capriccio-caesar-i-pray-1?in=wesalemusic/sets/capriccio-caesar-war-x-peace-x

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Reply #56 posted 05/16/16 12:20pm

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witnessmystyle said:

Yes, those ingedients DO cause and have been linked to Birth defects/Cancer/etc. As painful as the experience must have been, nature was sending a signal. M. was not meant to be a biological mother at that time. If she wasn't a Catholic/or had any common sense/courage; the cells (fetus) could have been terminated when they saw the scans before the birth. Thus, sparing much of the pain they were then forced to endure. From recent film/actions, she is as ill eqipped now as she was then. I feel sorry for her adopted child & hope she get's some type of mental health counseling. Clearly, those who surround her are enablers or just as ignorant as she is. She is teaching her child the way to fortune/money/attention is thru using your looks/body and your association to males. She is the antithesis of feminism and it is laughable she gets awards for "empowering" women and young girls when her behavior/history is essentially that of a groupie and defined by the males she has been sexually involved with. Very sad.

You are obviously the LAST person that anyone should be taking advice from. You are obviously very messed up and should seek out help for yourself before troubling anyone else with that nonsense.

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Reply #57 posted 05/16/16 1:30pm

dublinproud

witnessmystyle said:

Yes, those ingedients DO cause and have been linked to Birth defects/Cancer/etc. As painful as the experience must have been, nature was sending a signal. M. was not meant to be a biological mother at that time. If she wasn't a Catholic/or had any common sense/courage; the cells (fetus) could have been terminated when they saw the scans before the birth. Thus, sparing much of the pain they were then forced to endure. From recent film/actions, she is as ill eqipped now as she was then. I feel sorry for her adopted child & hope she get's some type of mental health counseling. Clearly, those who surround her are enablers or just as ignorant as she is. She is teaching her child the way to fortune/money/attention is thru using your looks/body and your association to males. She is the antithesis of feminism and it is laughable she gets awards for "empowering" women and young girls when her behavior/history is essentially that of a groupie and defined by the males she has been sexually involved with. Very sad.

One of the most ignorant posts i have ever read on ANY forum in my life. Cruel doesn't even come close to describing what you just said. I feel less of a man for just reading this shit!

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Reply #58 posted 05/16/16 6:30pm

dreamer218

witnessmystyle said:

Yes, those ingedients DO cause and have been linked to Birth defects/Cancer/etc. As painful as the experience must have been, nature was sending a signal. M. was not meant to be a biological mother at that time. If she wasn't a Catholic/or had any common sense/courage; the cells (fetus) could have been terminated when they saw the scans before the birth. Thus, sparing much of the pain they were then forced to endure. From recent film/actions, she is as ill eqipped now as she was then. I feel sorry for her adopted child & hope she get's some type of mental health counseling. Clearly, those who surround her are enablers or just as ignorant as she is. She is teaching her child the way to fortune/money/attention is thru using your looks/body and your association to males. She is the antithesis of feminism and it is laughable she gets awards for "empowering" women and young girls when her behavior/history is essentially that of a groupie and defined by the males she has been sexually involved with. Very sad.


YIKES! I've read some callous things on this board but this one takes the cake. I feel as thpugh and you're off base with your assessment of Mayte. She was a CHILD when she met Prince. Her parents allowed her to talk to him and eventually go to MN because I believe they thought he could help her career. She already had offers to go to Cairo to dance. She was going to do something with her dancing regardless. She clearly has talent of her own. How is that using her body/looks to get the attention of men?? PRINCE was the one who opened the door for her to enter his world. He didn't want her going to Cairo because he already knew he wanted her for himself. That's reality. No man talks to a young girl for 2 years without having something in it for himself in the long run. He wanted her and ultimately fulfilled his desire. For her part I don't believe for a second that Mayte went to MN thinking she'd become romantically involved with Prince. She was going there to dance. Many of the interviews she's given post divorce reference their "work life" and how she developed her strong work ethic from Prince. She truly enjoyed creating with him and it was the one place he gave her freedom. Sure he invited her into the circle because of her beauty but that isn't her fault. She just took the opporutnity that was given to her. Something that anyone would do if in the same situation. Just like all his other "muses." That doesn't qualify her as a groupie in my opinion.

She met Tommy Lee at the MTV Icon (for Janet) afterparty through a guy named Viggy. Viggy is a veteran audio designer, programmer, and drum/keyboard tech. He had worked for Prince for 5 years when Prince was with Mayte and Viggy really liked her. In fact, Viggy told Tommy Mayte was the best part of the entire experince. (working for Prince) So Viggy wanted to say hi to Mayte and introduce her to Tommy. She and Tommy became friends and started working on some music. Tommy said he totally thought Mayte was out of his league and didn't even try to get with her but they ended up talking one day for 7 hours straight and realized that they had a lot in common. He was touched by her story as she told him about Amir and shared how painful the divorce from Prince had been for her. She wasn't trying to get with Tommy either. It just kinda happened. She was vulnearable and trying to find herself after everyting she had endured. They fell in love. Tommy holds Mayte in the highest regard in his book and speaks glowly her. He said the only reason he didn't marry her is because she wanted children desperately and he didn't want anymore children. I feel like your characterization of her is off. If she were a golddigger than she would have stayed with Tommy just for his money. Tommy said in his book he still kicks himself for not marryng her. Again, that doesn't sound like a groupie to me.

And for the record you don't know what she's teaching her child because you don't know her. She adopted a child from a young girl who couldn't care for her. None of us had perfect parents. She will raise her daughter the best way she can just like anyone would. And for the record, GOD created the path for Mayte to adopt Gia so nature DID she fit for her to be a mother. You are the last person who should be saying that someone else is ill equipped for something. Look in the mirror.

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Reply #59 posted 05/16/16 6:42pm

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Kevin Smith told the story that in he requested he do a song ("the morning papers" I think) and that prince said if Mayte was not there to dance there was not point. (this was in the Rainbow Children time frame)

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