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Reply #30 posted 05/10/16 4:48pm

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Please don't tell me Kirky had more of a part than just killing the music.

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Reply #31 posted 05/10/16 4:51pm

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I just read that somewhere and he's suddenly not even working at the place he was working the day he saw Prince. WTF is up with that????

exactly confused

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Reply #32 posted 05/10/16 4:52pm

nursev

SquirrelMeat said:

Please don't tell me Kirky had more of a part than just killing the music.

he's looking real foul to me right now confused

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Reply #33 posted 05/10/16 4:55pm

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I just checked out the MD. He has a clean license, has been practicing almost 20 years. He specializes in Family Medicine. If it is true he was going to take over results, I do not think he was treating any type of addiction. Maybe he had done some labs, like blood work. He does not have a speciality in addiction, etc. I saw that most of his patients like him per reviews, he has good rankings. I think maybe he just got caught up in this mess. I will give him the benefit of the doubt.

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Reply #34 posted 05/10/16 5:01pm

babynoz

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One other nugget which may not be comforting. I forgot to mention that after combing the net , I found out that DR. Schulenberg's primary specialty was as an Intensivist= special training in critical care @ Excelsior. Can anyone confrim how far this was from the infamous"walgreens"?



Everything so far shows that he belonged in a hospital but it couldn't be forced on him. sad

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Reply #35 posted 05/10/16 5:06pm

wavesofbliss

What about the Fifis? Merone the assistant,Damaris and Chelsea? I wanna know where they were and what they know about this. I bet Merone was the other staffer who found him with Kirk.

This makes my stomach sick. It sounds like the same bullshit that killed River Phoenix. The people around him were to afraid of getting in trouble to get help...... mad sad mad sad

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Reply #36 posted 05/10/16 5:08pm

spastic78

Menes said:

One other nugget which may not be comforting. I forgot to mention that after combing the net , I found out that DR. Schulenberg's primary specialty was as an Intensivist= special training in critical care @ Excelsior. Can anyone confrim how far this was from the infamous"walgreens"?



This is all so sad. Dr Schulenberg also practiced at the Minnetonka North Memorial medical center which is also an Urgency Center. Dr Schulenberg was board certified in Family Medicine. That center is relatively new (opened 2012).

It is about a half-mile from the Walgreens where Prince was seen the day before he died. So the Walgreens was on his way home.

Actually, I'm wrong...here's the warrant:
http://stmedia.startribun...051116.pdf

But it's weird how Dr Schulenberg arrived at PP at 10:57am...I think word was already out by then that Prince was in trouble.
[Edited 5/10/16 17:23pm]
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Reply #37 posted 05/10/16 5:30pm

DoItAllNight4U

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violectrica said:

DoItAllNight4U said:

Oh my god you guys, what if it IS murder?

[Edited 5/10/16 16:03pm]

Why would a Dr. Murder him?! sad Also if it is --jail.

Who knows? Maybe the doctor was hired for the Illuminati......................................... lol

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Reply #38 posted 05/10/16 5:31pm

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This whole thread is making my face hot. mad

Sorry, it's the Hodgkin's talking.
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Reply #39 posted 05/10/16 5:33pm

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DoItAllNight4U said:

violectrica said:

DoItAllNight4U said: Why would a Dr. Murder him?! sad Also if it is --jail.

Who knows? Maybe the doctor was hired for the Illuminati......................................... lol

No but seriously though, sh!t is gonna go down if it is really murder

Angry mobs of the Purple Army everywhere.

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Reply #40 posted 05/10/16 5:36pm

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MMJas said:

I was gonna say the same thing. Just read on that link for the police investigation at PP today that the Dr. is no longer working at the clinic???

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His no longer working at that clinic now that his name is out there isn't that unusual or necessarily 'suspicious', imo. Healthcare is Big Business, businesses are always worried about 'bad publicity' or anything which might affect how they're viewed by their target customers. And the last thing a clinic would want is to have people think they employ "bad doctors" or "drug pusher doctors" or "the doctor that helped cause Prince's death", even if NONE of that is true. The best thing for everyone concerned and for the business is to not have a person involved with a federal death investigation employed at that business -- especially one that is supposed to heal and save lives.

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I researched this doctor on a few of those Rate a Physician type sites and couldn't find anything bad about him (I didn't do an intensive, thorough search so maybe there's more out there I didn't find, I don't know) but believe me, I research enough docs to know that if people have something negative to say about a doctor, they don't hold back on those rating sites. That said, who know what this doctor is really like?

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This entire situation is just getting weirder and weirder. neutral

One thing's for sure, if this turns out to be another conrad murray scenario, then shit is going down! hrmph

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Reply #41 posted 05/10/16 5:47pm

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derrick31 said:

DoItAllNight4U said:

Oh my god you guys, what if it IS murder?



[Edited 5/10/16 16:03pm]




Huh?


It is not murder. Stop it.
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Reply #42 posted 05/10/16 5:48pm

Menes

spastic78 said:

Menes said:

One other nugget which may not be comforting. I forgot to mention that after combing the net , I found out that DR. Schulenberg's primary specialty was as an Intensivist= special training in critical care @ Excelsior. Can anyone confrim how far this was from the infamous"walgreens"?

This is all so sad. Dr Schulenberg also practiced at the Minnetonka North Memorial medical center which is also an Urgency Center. Dr Schulenberg was board certified in Family Medicine. That center is relatively new (opened 2012). It is about a half-mile from the Walgreens where Prince was seen the day before he died. So the Walgreens was on his way home. Actually, I'm wrong...here's the warrant: http://stmedia.startribun...051116.pdf But it's weird how Dr Schulenberg arrived at PP at 10:57am...I think word was already out by then that Prince was in trouble. [Edited 5/10/16 17:23pm]

It is not entirely clear if the medical community as a whole knew of his exact time of passing. Dr. Schulenberg may have had knowledge of the intervention though. Hence, the personal preparation and delivery of his medical records that morning . He was already treating him for withdrawal symptoms according to pulbished reports. I suspect he may have also unintentionally provided a service that produced deadly results. He is not alone.

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Reply #43 posted 05/10/16 5:53pm

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spastic78 said:

Menes said:

One other nugget which may not be comforting. I forgot to mention that after combing the net , I found out that DR. Schulenberg's primary specialty was as an Intensivist= special training in critical care @ Excelsior. Can anyone confrim how far this was from the infamous"walgreens"?



This is all so sad. Dr Schulenberg also practiced at the Minnetonka North Memorial medical center which is also an Urgency Center. Dr Schulenberg was board certified in Family Medicine. That center is relatively new (opened 2012).

It is about a half-mile from the Walgreens where Prince was seen the day before he died. So the Walgreens was on his way home.

Actually, I'm wrong...here's the warrant:
http://stmedia.startribun...051116.pdf

But it's weird how Dr Schulenberg arrived at PP at 10:57am...I think word was already out by then that Prince was in trouble.
[Edited 5/10/16 17:23pm]


That's what I thought. Maybe he went down at some point that night, maybe someone was with him, panicked and calls were made.

Of course it could all just be precautionary and just a show for the free press. "Look how we roll when a celebrity "dies of an overdose"" meanwhile in the real world ... Anyway. Seems a bit late to be searching for evidence. What would really be on computers anyway?
Surprise, surprise.
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Reply #44 posted 05/10/16 5:58pm

RiotPaisley

trc1 said:

derrick31 said:




Huh?


It is not murder. Stop it.

Reckless homicide by the looks of it.
Surprise, surprise.
Another treat. Another trick.
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Reply #45 posted 05/10/16 6:01pm

spastic78

Okay..I'm gonna say it again..epilepsy -a sudden seizure. If Prince was agitated or nervous appearing in his last few days it's quite probable that Dr Schulenberg prescribed him Tramadol which is not an opiate but a pain reliever. It's frequently prescribed by Family Medicine docs as it's not on a watchlist. But it doesn't work well at all. So he may have taken a Percosets as well...the combination has provoked seizures in lots of people with a childhood history of epilepsy.

Anyways, it looks like he did visit the Minnetonka Clinic just up the road from the Walgreens. Weird that Dr Schulenberg arrived at 10:57am when I think at 10:30 many were aware that Prince was in trouble....it's not hard to see ambulances going into PP.

But I'm hesitant to believe anything cuz this all stinks as a cover-up...but I don't think Kirk Johnson was at fault...if anything he's too distraught to talk to anyone and it's legally not advisable.

I wonder about the third person...Hannah Welton? If it was really just any staffer we'd probably know that by now.
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Reply #46 posted 05/10/16 6:09pm

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Please everyone it doesn't help to over react to every piece of information. We already knew there were local doctors involved treating him and trying to help him. It's not at all alarming that he doesn't show up as currently being employed by the clinic. I'm sure the media attention and scrutiny would be too much to manage. These are professional businesses trying to maintain some dignity and order. They don't need to jeopardize the care they provide others by having their organization turn into a circus. I live and work in MN and I can assure you our healthcare systems are reputable and no one did anything to deliberately harm Prince. I'm confident they were caring for him the best they could. It was obviously a very difficult, complicated issue. And the doctor is a professional who is probably quite busy doing his job and didn't have time to be watching or listening to the news that morning so it's not surprising he wouldn't have been aware what had occurred that morning before he arrived with the test results. I feel bad for all these innocent people getting their names dragged into this mess and having their character questioned.

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Reply #47 posted 05/10/16 6:33pm

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I'm leaning towards he was sick with some kind of illness. The doctor treated him for an "undisclosed" illness in 2014/2015 and was delivering test results on the 21st?

What kind of test results would be needed for addiction counseling?

Like someone above said, there is nothing in this doctor's past or file indicating he specialized in addiction treatment.
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Reply #48 posted 05/10/16 6:39pm

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DoItAllNight4U said:



DoItAllNight4U said:




violectrica said:


DoItAllNight4U said: Why would a Dr. Murder him?! sad Also if it is --jail.

Who knows? Maybe the doctor was hired for the Illuminati..... lol



No but seriously though, sh!t is gonna go down if it is really murder


Angry mobs of the Purple Army everywhere.


I do believe someone(a dr)did take Prince down...nothing else made any sense. Makes me so very mad and sad mad sad I feel so bad for Prince he deserved better!
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Reply #49 posted 05/10/16 6:45pm

DreamRose311

"It says Dr. Michael Todd Schulenberg treated Prince on April 7"

April 7th was the original date for the Atlanta shows... I don't know what that would mean, just felt I should point it out since nobody else has...

[Edited 5/10/16 18:46pm]

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Reply #50 posted 05/10/16 6:52pm

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trc1 said:

derrick31 said:




Huh?


It is not murder. Stop it.


EXACTLY. People have lost their damn minds...🙄
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Reply #51 posted 05/10/16 6:56pm

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Sooooooo...nobody knows what this doctor was treating him for? All I see is he does Family Medicine.

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Reply #52 posted 05/10/16 7:00pm

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ThirdStrike said:

trc1 said:
It is not murder. Stop it.
EXACTLY. People have lost their damn minds...🙄

More likely criminal negligence. Something is so wrong if one doctor is over-prescribing a medication if that's what happened. It shouldn't even be something available on general prescription, to be issued by any tom dick or harry practitioner.

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #53 posted 05/10/16 7:07pm

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"Manslaughter- the crime of killing a human being without malice aforethought, or in circumstances not amounting to murder". neutral So the doctor's no longer working there. Shit he must be bricking it.

The world's problems like climate change can only be solved through strategic long-term thinking, not expediency. In other words all the govts. need sacking!

If you can add value to someone's life then why not. Especially if it colors their days...
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Reply #54 posted 05/10/16 7:34pm

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sonshine said:

Please everyone it doesn't help to over react to every piece of information. We already knew there were local doctors involved treating him and trying to help him. It's not at all alarming that he doesn't show up as currently being employed by the clinic. I'm sure the media attention and scrutiny would be too much to manage. These are professional businesses trying to maintain some dignity and order. They don't need to jeopardize the care they provide others by having their organization turn into a circus. I live and work in MN and I can assure you our healthcare systems are reputable and no one did anything to deliberately harm Prince. I'm confident they were caring for him the best they could. It was obviously a very difficult, complicated issue. And the doctor is a professional who is probably quite busy doing his job and didn't have time to be watching or listening to the news that morning so it's not surprising he wouldn't have been aware what had occurred that morning before he arrived with the test results. I feel bad for all these innocent people getting their names dragged into this mess and having their character questioned.


Finally - a voice of reason. (Don't expect it to be heeded, though.)

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Reply #55 posted 05/10/16 11:23pm

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Genesia said:



sonshine said:


Please everyone it doesn't help to over react to every piece of information. We already knew there were local doctors involved treating him and trying to help him. It's not at all alarming that he doesn't show up as currently being employed by the clinic. I'm sure the media attention and scrutiny would be too much to manage. These are professional businesses trying to maintain some dignity and order. They don't need to jeopardize the care they provide others by having their organization turn into a circus. I live and work in MN and I can assure you our healthcare systems are reputable and no one did anything to deliberately harm Prince. I'm confident they were caring for him the best they could. It was obviously a very difficult, complicated issue. And the doctor is a professional who is probably quite busy doing his job and didn't have time to be watching or listening to the news that morning so it's not surprising he wouldn't have been aware what had occurred that morning before he arrived with the test results. I feel bad for all these innocent people getting their names dragged into this mess and having their character questioned.




Finally - a voice of reason. (Don't expect it to be heeded, though.)




The mods really should put a warning on the front page.

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Reply #56 posted 05/11/16 1:07am

Eileen

Don’t turn Prince’s death into a drug trial

http://www.salon.com/2016...on_crisis/

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Reply #57 posted 05/11/16 2:23am

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Menes said:

One other nugget which may not be comforting. I forgot to mention that after combing the net , I found out that DR. Schulenberg's primary specialty was as an Intensivist= special training in critical care @ Excelsior. Can anyone confrim how far this was from the infamous"walgreens"?

Where did you read the Dr. was an Intensivist?

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Reply #58 posted 05/11/16 2:54am

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spastic78 said:

Okay..I'm gonna say it again..epilepsy -a sudden seizure. If Prince was agitated or nervous appearing in his last few days it's quite probable that Dr Schulenberg prescribed him Tramadol which is not an opiate but a pain reliever. It's frequently prescribed by Family Medicine docs as it's not on a watchlist. But it doesn't work well at all. So he may have taken a Percosets as well...the combination has provoked seizures in lots of people with a childhood history of epilepsy. Anyways, it looks like he did visit the Minnetonka Clinic just up the road from the Walgreens. Weird that Dr Schulenberg arrived at 10:57am when I think at 10:30 many were aware that Prince was in trouble....it's not hard to see ambulances going into PP. But I'm hesitant to believe anything cuz this all stinks as a cover-up...but I don't think Kirk Johnson was at fault...if anything he's too distraught to talk to anyone and it's legally not advisable. I wonder about the third person...Hannah Welton? If it was really just any staffer we'd probably know that by now.

Tramadol IS an opiate. It says so on the leaflet.

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Reply #59 posted 05/11/16 2:55am

Rebeljuice

It may well be that this doc thought he was treating Prince for flu, simple as that. Prince, not one to reveal to a mere family doctor that he has a Percocet problem, just wants something to ease the flu-like withdrawal symptoms so tells the doctor he has flu. Prince comes back to him 2 weeks later with the same symptoms and the doctor thinks it best to do some blood tests. Prescribes him medicine to ease his flu like symptoms and goes home after a hard days work.

And here is a conspiracy theory: Upon returning from his doctors visit and a trip to Wallgreens, and after taking his flu meds that he was prescribed, Prince still doesnt feel good. Kirk finally bites the bullet and calls the addiction doc who promptly calls the family doctor and then sends his son to PP on a red eye. The addiction doctor tells the family doctor the story who then promptly clears his diary for the next day, agreeing to meet the son, along with Prince, at PP the next morning bringing along the results of his blood tests. His son arrives early in the morning and, at Prince's request, has a secret meeting with Prince at PP. He gives Prince some meds to ease his symptoms and, once Prince shows signs of feeling better the son goes to his hotel, showers, has breakfast and is picked up by PP staff. They get to PP and find Prince dead - a reaction to the flu meds and the withdrawal meds.

Arriving the next morning the family doctor that saw Prince the night before learns that Prince is dead. After speaking with the addiction doctors son and realising that his flu prescription could well have reacted with the withdrawal meds, he goes into a bit of a panic. He finds in the blood tests that there was also an underlying issue but is not sure what to do with it. Later he leaks to the press that his blood tests revealed a low red blood cell count indicating an underlying illness, ensuring it is in the public domain that factors other than prescription drugs were in play, readying himself for his defense at a later date. The hospital where he works find out that he leaked the reults and fire him.


Of course, its more than likely none of the above and the illuminate did it afterall.

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