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PrintableCan't imagine where you came about this bombshell info Menes.
But i'd hate to think these types of threads where being used to stoke the flames of gossip and inuendo that TMZ & and the like are insistent on keeping alight..
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Eileen said: It's already happening in the media. CNN is advertising upcoming special reports on prescription addiction in America. Timing seems somewhat related. . | |
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It is just plain obvious that suddenly dropping dead can only be a drug related complication, we just need to wait and know exactly what and how much of it was in his system. | |
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Arunas said: It is just plain obvious that suddenly dropping dead can only be a drug related complication, we just need to wait and know exactly what and how much of it was in his system. No, that isn't the only thing it could be. People drop dead all the time from heart attacks and strokes and aneurysms and all kind of things. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Granted those might happen, but Prince lived a different quality of live than you or me. His physique and activity levels were far from the ones that you'd associate with victims that suffer those things. So far history dictates that people with a high quality of live, namely celebrieties of this kind, are cut short by to either drugs, suicide, an accident or cancer. [Edited 5/11/16 4:59am] | |
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Arunas said:
Granted those might happen, but Prince lived a different quality of live than you or me. His physique and activity levels were far from the ones that you'd associate with victims that suffer those things. So far history dictates that people with a high quality of live, namely celebrieties of this kind, are cut short by to either drugs, suicide, an accident or cancer. [Edited 5/11/16 4:59am] Rich people die of heart attacks and strokes and aneurysms and cancer and every other thing "ordinary" people die of. We don’t mourn artists because we knew them. We mourn them because they helped us know ourselves. | |
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Is it usual for doctors to deliver blood results to the patient in person in the US? In the UK they would only insist on doing it face to face if something needed to be discussed - otherwise you call to be told things are clear, or they'll call you with advice and send a prescription to the chemist (pharmacy). I wonder if he was about to be diagnosed with something rather serious, or already had been. Poor darling  I'm looking out for a purple dolphin. | |
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I was trying to emphasize factors and chances of those ilnesses compared to a more likely drug problem, not a fact that they are immortal to them. | |
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I wonder if this is the same local doctor that the California doctor said he called... but his story was that Prince had an appointment that morning and didn't turn up. I guess Prince's people could have asked if the doctor would come to him, and that this all happened at the same time!? If the local doctor was there though, why didn't he call 911? Andrew, the other doctor's son, apparently said there was only staff there and they were paniking! . All a bit odd, but people are probably doing a lot of talking without really knowing all the facts. | |
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ladycat said: Is it usual for doctors to deliver blood results to the patient in person in the US? In the UK they would only insist on doing it face to face if something needed to be discussed - otherwise you call to be told things are clear, or they'll call you with advice and send a prescription to the chemist (pharmacy). I wonder if he was about to be diagnosed with something rather serious, or already had been. Poor darling it is not typical at all for "regular" patients. but prince liked people to come to him, so if it was better (no paparazzi, etc) for the dr to go to prince, i can see that. but a phone call would have worked too, unless they were going to discuss a comprehensive rx plan, then face to face is better. "do i have a friend tonight?" --prince at his last concert in atlanta  "If u love somebody, your life won't be in vain
And there's always a rainbow, at the end of every rain."--peace and love, dear prince..... | |
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If Prince needed some help (especially after that flight), you get him off those pain killers...Even if he did not want you to to... You cut-through all the preaching, and star-ego...You sit him down, and tell him that he is the company, and he needs to take care of himself.
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Test Results could be needed for..Damaged Kidneys as a result of....taking too much...
Aside from street-addicts--who are treated like scum and mockery..
...I've seen reports of addiction amongst surbubanites, and the rich seen as an "illness".
Gambling Addiction is listed as an illness.. [Edited 5/11/16 6:17am] | |
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Lot of armchair doctors and lawyers around here all of a sudden. Let's just wait and see what real doctors and lawyers say, eh? "Anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that "my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge"" ~ Isaac Asimov | |
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Rebeljuice said: It may well be that this doc thought he was treating Prince for flu, simple as that. Prince, not one to reveal to a mere family doctor that he has a Percocet problem, just wants something to ease the flu-like withdrawal symptoms so tells the doctor he has flu. Prince comes back to him 2 weeks later with the same symptoms and the doctor thinks it best to do some blood tests. Prescribes him medicine to ease his flu like symptoms and goes home after a hard days work. Why would someone else fly across the country with Suboxone if he was already on withdrawal meds? What other kind of similar meds exist? Besides methadone? I dont believe he was taking 'flu meds' for weeks, nor had any prescribed more than once...As for the low RBC count...there are many things that can cause this, including opiate addiction...If it was dangerously low then he would have needed a blood transfusion, something his religion disallowed.Perhaps his doctor was keeping abreast of all this accordingly with regular tests and treating him in any way short of a transfusion.Any drug dependency causing issues like this, including dehydration, would b made worse with anemia... Its ironic that all this talk about drugs in his posession, the dea involved, etc.now leads to an actual doctor and alleged prescriptions..but of what we dont know. They surely didnt say it was opioids, and wouldnt they have said so if it was?...too many puzzle pieces are still missing here...i think maybe he had another illness that was compromised by his drug dependency...If he withdrew from the drugs, then he would b in pain in any scenario due to his hips and/or w/e else may have been wrong... [Edited 5/11/16 6:39am] "Almost all art is trying to become an anaesthetic and at the same time a healing session drawing up the magical electrics.” | |
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How come you know all this? Don´t get me wrong but if I were you I´d be very careful with that kind of info. I mean, this kind of info would be considered strictly confidential in most countries on this planet, and you could get yourself or the doctors and their staff in some serious trouble.
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I see absolutely nothing wrong with Kirk taking some time off in this situation. If there ever was a time for him to disappear for a while, that time is now. The police probably questioned him already, and he is surely not the only person who knows Paisley Park ( though you are making a valid point there). What do you find weird? I´m just asking because you got me curious and I value your opinions on this board. " I´d rather be a stank ass hoe because I´m not stupid. Oh my goodness! I got more drugs! I´m always funny dude...I´m hilarious! Are we gonna smoke?" | |
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DreamRose311 said: "It says Dr. Michael Todd Schulenberg treated Prince on April 7"
April 7th was the original date for the Atlanta shows... I don't know what that would mean, just felt I should point it out since nobody else has... [Edited 5/10/16 18:46pm] Hmmmmm and that is the show that got cancelled...seems this dr was brought in to do Prince no good. Didn't someone say/post the night of 4-20 Prince introduced a Dr with him at Paisley Park? If so who was that Dr [Edited 5/11/16 8:42am] | |
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You are connecting the dots. Flush it out. I have one more piece coming in but I need to verify a few things. | |
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and true love lives on lollipops and crisps | |
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Imagination and the senses cannot be gratified at the same time. Your eyes should not be responsible when the mind does the seeing..... To the bridge. | |
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TMZ just reported that so far the investigation has found Dr. Schulenberg to be the only doctor prescribing to Prince and that all of the scripts were in his name--no aliases. Since the DEA monitors pharmacies for over-prescribing for a single individual, this likely means the nosedive happened so quickly there wasn't even time for them to flag it. What the actual fuck happened?? | |
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Perhaps Dr. Schulenberg agreed to meet Andrew Kornfeld at PP the morning of the 21st to share the test results and discuss Prince's treatment plan.
Also, for what it's worth, I live a couple blocks from a Walgreens but get my prescriptions filled at another that's closer to my clinic. Probably what P was doing. And Minnetonka is a hop, skip, and jump from Chanhassen.
I wonder if the cops were at PP yesterday to see if P was getting prescriptions from multiple doctors. I have no idea.
Bottom line, I miss Prince. "She made me glad to be a man" | |
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Eileen said: It's one thing to call for changes to drug related sentences that don't put people in prison for using/ abusing drugs but people who supply and distribute, or over prescribe this poison should be punished. They are taking advantage of people who are in physical or mental pain. I really agree that putting "addicts" who haven't committed any crime besides purchasing drugs in jail is a total waste of resources that could be better spent on rehab and counseling. Sometimes a person in dire straits will commit a crime just to go to jail because they're safer locked up than in the streets bexause resources are not really available to help with AODA issues. My friend was having severe alcohol withdrawal and with no insurance, went to a free clinic to get help. It was first come first serve, he showed up at 6am, the line was already down the street. This is wrong. Build more rehab facilities and make mental health services more readily available, save jail space to lock up the real criminals who are doing the pushing. Surprise, surprise.
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headtripparade said: TMZ just reported that so far the investigation has found Dr. Schulenberg to be the only doctor prescribing to Prince and that all of the scripts were in his name--no aliases. Since the DEA monitors pharmacies for over-prescribing for a single individual, this likely means the nosedive happened so quickly there wasn't even time for them to flag it. What the actual fuck happened?? dr drew would say that almost no one od's by opioid alone..,its when you add in something for sleep, like a benzo. unless there was an underlying medical condition, prince would have to ingest so many perkocets to die from them that he probably would puke them up first. so either there is more medically going on, or that dr wrote him something to relax or sleep and it killed him. that may very well be what happened on the plane, too. in pain, take an opioid, need to sleep on the trip home, take a benzo, and he crashed. except there was someone to help him then. "do i have a friend tonight?" --prince at his last concert in atlanta "If u love somebody, your life won't be in vain
And there's always a rainbow, at the end of every rain."--peace and love, dear prince..... | |
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Someone did mention/post something about Prince being with a doctor and even thanking him publicly at that party? Was that on the 20th??? | |
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and where were they the night before? | |
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As far as I can tell, Dr. Schulenburg has no training when it comes to treating addiction and he is not registered to treat those with addiction issues. It seems he showed up well after Prince had died (I think he showed up at almost 11 am) and rather than running he told police he had come to drop off reports. He could have ran if he was coming to do anything illicit, IMO. I am still giving him the benefit of the doubt.
Here is a list of MDs that can treat opioid addiction with Suboxone, etc. Not any doctor can do this, one must have a DEA number that starts with an "X", which means they have done the necessary training to write for these meds. A pharmacy cannot dispense without the "X" DEA on record--the computer will not allow it to be dispensed at all major chains.
I could not find any MDs listed for Carver Co., so I checked Hennepin Co.
http://www.samhsa.gov/medication-assisted-treatment/physician-program-data/treatment-physician-locator?field_bup_zip_code_value=&field_bup_physician_city_value=&field_bup_physician_county_value=hennepin&field_bup_physician_us_state_value=MN | |
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