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I'm not talking about nudity Maybe the vault will show that some songs were written and recorded before certain people came on the scene. Maybe there are rehearsals that does capture the conversations and discussion, and maybe it turns out that those "discussions" are basically Prince giving detailed instructions to the band on how to play song they supposedly co-wrote. I don't know and you don't know. That's one of the reasons I think the vault should be made available in its entirety. It could help settle some disputes. It could tell us a lot about the genesis of the songs, about Prince's creative process. The wooh is on the one! | |
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I'm not saying I don't want music from the Vault. Let me be clear on that. 1977-1989 I want all of it lol I just want it done in quality. I have a friend who I tried to share some Prince music with and she just laughed some of it off saying "I just don't get him" etc now she's posting clips of everyone in Louisiana playing and singing Prince music everywhere. She's going to try to talk to me about it and him when she comes back. I have my "bitch please" face and response ready for her. . I'm not judging anyone for watching youtube vids(I was an advocate for this being a way for PRince to spread the expanse of his career for years. I get the need to watch, I try to. I watched him on that show the other day 'something Girl'? It's hit in miss for me. I start and then can't finish. I actually saved one of the concerts to my FB for others to see, but I didn't watch it. . There is a trail of woods near my place of employment where I go for walks on break. A week ago someone dumped a bunch of 'junk' on the side of the trail. And when I looked closer, it looked like the remains of someone who died. Not the body but the belongings. A rosery a pair of shoes, picture frames etc very intimate things just tossed on the side, probably by a child who didn't care about the parents except for any money or things of monetary value. . That's how I'm feeling with PRince right now. I wanted him to make money off of his valuables while alive. But now I want it put out in top quality. Not in a messy mad rush, but take quality time and put some wonderful things together at reasonable prices in time.
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your weiner's bent. | |
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I'm talking about discussions and time spent that are not recorded, not in the vault.
I think that is a selfish reason to want the vault made available. To settle disputes? You really think we will be able to pick apart stuff to be able settle a dispute. | |
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Wanting the material to be preserved for research isn't particularly selfish. Maybe 'disputes' was the wrong word, but surely you would agree the access to the material combined with thorough research can answer some question about for example writing credits? The wooh is on the one! | |
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starkitty said:
your weiner's bent. It has its advantages! "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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When I find amazing unreleased tracks on YouTube that I've been enjoying for years, I've been sharing and posting them. Why? For selfish reasons. It's hard to love music so much but not be able to easily point someone else to it. "You really gotta hear Moonbeam Levels...but you never will. Shit." Now for a brief moment, it's easy to share this wonderful art with people. I realize there are those of you who would totally disagree with my actions. But there it is. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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That won't happen. A wonderful booklet of 2-3 cds from each year 1 with the music 1 with the rehearsals 1 with concerts 1 with videos And I'm happy. Just start with the earlier years get me all the music from my favorite eras before I get too old. | |
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I don't think that is a selfish reason
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OldFriends4Sale said:
I don't think that is a selfish reason
Thanks. In some ways it is because it's about my desire to share. And part of what helps me to heal in the wake of his death. I know damn well Prince would frown on it. But he would also frown on me owning and listening to boots in the first place. I don't know. Fuck it. Prince is dead. In the end none of this matters. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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lol we Prince fans sure do have some colorful dreams eh?
I've had my Vault dreams too. We've had a priviledged period, those of us who have the 'boots' There was something very interesting about having the music
Once the music get's to everyone, that is over lol I think having the 'boots' for me was like when I drank before it was legal to drink. Once it became legal for me to drink it wasn't so exciting.
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I was exploring the Parade era and music before he died. I have a friend that I told her I was going to put together some images and music (released and unreleased) and was going to have her over with some food and wine and and wanted to see how the music and art/photos of the era moved her.
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Well...More of the reason for people not to "vulture"...
She's probably singing on some of those tracks, and that may bring relief from her financial troubles..
She is about respect mostly, but I'm sure the thought crossed her mind as well.
If most of the vultures won't donate, then they should not take any opportunity away from his family and workers to earn a living. | |
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Prince on ABC's THe View: "I won't release them, but somebody will..." | |
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Tyka is way too busy with atorneys and trustees at the moment----sifting through The Vault. | |
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Explicit material? They'll get-over it...
I think...they did not speak much about boots--because he did.
Now, it's probably about what he would want. So, they are doing it for him now. | |
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I see absolutely nothing bad or selfish in what you are doing because most fans who share or download outtakes or other unreleased stuff would buy proper, legit releases anyway, even if they have already downloaded them. Sharing Prince´s material doesn´t hurt him financially, it preserves his legacy and only adds to it. I never would have bought so many legit , official releases and concert tickets if I had never been given mixtapes or bootleg material back in the day. But of course I also spend lots of money on legit stuff later, regardless of whether I liked it or not. . . No offence to Sheila and Susannah but I find it a bit strange that Susannah´s two messages obviously contradict each other, and that Sheila is now constantly mentioned as his "ex-fiancé" when there are people like Mayte and Manuela out there who´ve had longer lasting relationships with him that even led to a marriage. Feels weird because where was she in the past couple of months , or in the last couple of years since their dispute and since her book was released? Also feels weird because I am a huge Sheila E. fan but these days I´m questioning her actions a lot. I understand she´s grieving, we all are, but so are probably others who were close to him. . I often ask myself how Prince would feel about all this? About Susannah and Sheila and their thoughts. Would he trust them with his vault and what to do with it? Or would he rather have someone like Kirk Johnson or maybe even Bobby Z. or one of his last real girlfriends see in charge of things? He wouldn´t even allow Fdeluxe to use the old bandname, and I´m not sure how he felt about Sheila in the last couple of years. Not hate here, just wondering why some former associates think they have more to say than other, equally important people in his life.
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Most of the booots are poor quality with breaks and cuts...Sounds like he's underwater, or a bad dub-tape anyway...
Be a fool to buy them---when everything will be released soon in much better quality. They are his number asset. Several of the company's will be making their pitch to pay for the engineering of these. | |
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Oh man. I hadn't thought of that. When we know okay that's it no more. Fuuuuuck SquirrelMeat said:
"Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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Not my boots! Many of them sound fabulous. And who's buying them? Share and share and share! Linn4days said: Most of the booots are poor quality with breaks and cuts...Sounds like he's underwater, or a bad dub-tape anyway...
Be a fool to buy them---when everything will be released soon in much better quality. They are his number asset. Several of the company's will be making their pitch to pay for the engineering of these. "Drop that stereo before I blow your Goddamn nuts off, asshole!"
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Actually Susannah's posts are not contradictory. Read it again, she is just saying 'wait' Maybe wait on throwing it out there it is clear from the rest of it she is connecting it with the suddenness of his death.
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man, just reading it from your words made me sad "No more Prince music. The story is over."
nothing more to look forward to.
I think it would be great to have a 1(or 2)booklet set from the 80s 1 from the 90s 1 from the 2000s every year. of course certain periods might have more than others, but that would be a good 'drip feed'
Release them on his birthday and then another set 6 months later
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The fans are sharing it and the lawyers are turning a blind eye to it for now. | |
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a whole different level of sadness
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My two pence on the vault... I really would love to get top quality versions of the vault tracks (got 100s on boot), but I would prefer them to be as is and not finished by anyone else (not even the musicians involved). I like Prince's Rolling Stone mag comment about "time capsules" and think the Vault should be treated like that. A moment in time. BUT happy to wait and be patient and for it to be done properly and given the proper respect it is due. The involvement of others would be in the collation and perhaps inclusion of some written information about each track. Much as I am greedy for the music (even though I suspect I have heard most of it) it does feel a bit too soon to be clamouring for it. 'I loved him then, I love him now and will love him eternally. He's with our son now.' Mayte 21st April 2016 = the saddest quote I have ever read! RIP Prince and thanks for everything. | |
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Yeah, I think you are right, she does not seem to be totally against it but wants fans to wait a bit longer. But what difference does it make at this point? I mean, now is the time that many people who are not familiar with Prince are going to look him up on Youtube, and I find it wonderful when I read the younger generation´s surprised reactions when they comment on some of his concert footage or those old videoclips of his big hits. There are some kids who thought that songs like If I Was Your Girlfriend were written by TLC or Beyonce, and that Raspberry Beret was written by some other guy. I understand where Susannah is coming from, and I´d love to see her get compensated for her input and inspiration but as far as posting songs and videos goes...I am all for Prince being known for his huge talent and his incredible live performances and music instead of silly cliches that people have of him. It´s nice to see younger folks see beyond the mascara and falsetto and eccentric clothes and namechange. He deserves to be one of those immortal legends, and now is the time that people are looking up his stuff on the internet.
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