Aerogram said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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But then Princey wouldn't be "special" and "unique" and "revolutionary". And that's what these famz cling to. They actually don't care about the music, they know it's rather mediocre. So they cling to these insane ideas that Prince's brainfarts are innovative business schemes which will rock the music industry. And they blame the inevitable failure on the fact that we weren't ready for this new and exciting distribution method.

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For 15+ years we've said that Prince should have an easy to use website where everything is available. Instead we get puzzles and CDs that are only available in some countries. And when he's back on a major label, he sells what, 150,000 worldwide? And the famz claim that it's all good, he's just as popular, "nobody's selling millions" (ignoring that several artists do).

Sorry Bart you can't accuse others of clinging because you're already the worst clinger in Prince.org's history with your relentless muti-decade crusade against what you'd think was Satan's spawn and not just the allegedly irrelevant no-good has been you claim he is.

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Yes, me pointing something is shit is a "crusade". How dare I? Don't I know my powerful words hurt the fragile feelings of those feeble famz?

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Funny how you lot continue to focus on me. You'd think you wouldn't have time with all that fantastic music you can listen to. No seriously, WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH? Why does it bother you that people keep pointing out that Prince makes ridiculous decisions? Why do you have to exaggerate and fabricate lies to keep your illusion going? Why is it that in your world only some people have the right to voice an opinion?

http://www.startribune.com/prince-welcomes-black-journalists-association-for-unusual-night-at-paisley-park/321167791/

'Prince did tell the crowd that the music also would be available in a physical format'

NOW IM EXCITED !!!

BartVanHemelen said:

Reading comprehension? Give me names of artists with lengthy careers who have taken you on a journey that has been the equal of Prince.

BartVanHemelen said:

Aerogram said:

Sorry Bart you can't accuse others of clinging because you're already the worst clinger in Prince.org's history with your relentless muti-decade crusade against what you'd think was Satan's spawn and not just the allegedly irrelevant no-good has been you claim he is.

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Yes, me pointing something is shit is a "crusade". How dare I? Don't I know my powerful words hurt the fragile feelings of those feeble famz?

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Funny how you lot continue to focus on me. You'd think you wouldn't have time with all that fantastic music you can listen to. No seriously, WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH? Why does it bother you that people keep pointing out that Prince makes ridiculous decisions? Why do you have to exaggerate and fabricate lies to keep your illusion going? Why is it that in your world only some people have the right to voice an opinion?

People are not interested in you for your opinions Bart, that would imply you actually have varying opinions that have not been interchangeable since the mid-90s. Your pedantic attention-grabbing condescension is far more entertaining and you dish it thick because you like to be the focus, pure and simple.

BartVanHemelen said:

I think a lot of people respect your opinion and value your knowledge but wonder why if things have been so bad for 20 years why you continue to choose to torture yourself and closely follow his career, listen to his new music and visit a website dedicated to him
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It all comes across a bit like an ex-wife - quite bitter and personal.

BartVanHemelen said:

UGH! You are not getting Prince all to yourself. If KCOOLMUSIQ doesn't outlast you, then I will!

http://www.cepro.com/arti..._is_in/P0/

Thought this was interesting article with interesting comments following the article.

Aerogram said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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Yes, me pointing something is shit is a "crusade". How dare I? Don't I know my powerful words hurt the fragile feelings of those feeble famz?

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Funny how you lot continue to focus on me. You'd think you wouldn't have time with all that fantastic music you can listen to. No seriously, WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH? Why does it bother you that people keep pointing out that Prince makes ridiculous decisions? Why do you have to exaggerate and fabricate lies to keep your illusion going? Why is it that in your world only some people have the right to voice an opinion?

People are not interested in you for your opinions Bart

Speak for yourself. I'm glad Bart is around.

[Edited 8/9/15 5:31am]

WTF!?

'Exclusive' release to some streaming website?

What CONclusion do we have to draw from that?

About P's IQ? About the unknowns being prepared?

How will PHYSICAL CDs reach the customer, especially overseas from the USSA?

Where can I read about these interesting details?

To put it mildly: no CD's means that a b00tleggar will RIP the tracks and press the CDs sooner than P will.

ludwig said:

You don't already know what he posts? Really?

PRINCE is really a nuts guy.....the best maybe in his category!

JUST GOT A BRILLIANT IDEA!!!!!
Tidal should rent movie theaters across the
country and have people get their first listen
of HITNRUN in movie theaters. Then they coukd
sign up after hearing the album. It would be a
great push for Tidal.
It would be great marketing for Prince.
A MASTERPIECE OF AN IDEA!!!!!
[Edited 8/9/15 6:04am]

thedoorkeeper said:

Hahahahahaha!

BartVanHemelen said:

jdcxc said:

Impress you...Negro pleez. You have to show me you have any taste in music. All I hear is your rantings and complaints as it relates to marketing and distribution. Prince is not predictable, but I would take his 37-year artistic journey over any other artist with a similar tenure. Give me some names. And the fact that you deny some of the great P music since 1989 shows your tin ear.

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I've posted plenty of names plenty of times.

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Here's a handful of them: Ariel Pink, Caribou, Jim O'Rourke, Leftfield, Panda Bear, Son Lux, Allah-Las, Blur, Alison Wonderland, Cannibal Ox, COIN, Courtney Barnett, Earl Sweatshirt, Hudson Mohawke, Kamasi Washington, LA Priest, Mbongwana Star, Rae Morris, Speedy Ortiz, Tame Impala, Taxiwars, Unknown Mortal Orchestra, Viet Cong, Wire,...

C'mon, Bart. jdcxc asked for artists with a SIMILAR TENURE and you list a bunch of artists that I've never heard of. How can they have a similar 37 year tenure and be unknown? Which one had a Purple Rain level release? Which one has a 37 year career? These are just obscure artists you like, not artists that parallel Prince. Try again. Just sayin...

udo said:

To put it mildly: no CD's means that a b00tleggar will RIP the tracks and press the CDs sooner than P will.

He said last night at PP there will be a physical CD release, eventually...

mbeswick98 said:

http://www.startribune.co...21167791/

'Prince did tell the crowd that the music also would be available in a physical format'

NOW IM EXCITED !!!

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BartVanHemelen said:

feeluupp said:

OFC... In order to be a FAN/FAM you have to research and study as much as BART has... So in the end he's just the biggest HYPOCRITE... He's read all the books, researched every little thing about him, yet he's not a FAN/FAM... Sorry BART go get some excercise besides spreading "THE TRUTH" here. You're outdated anyway.

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According to your logic, someone who researches Hitler must be a Hitler fan.

You've been on the internet long enough to know that the first person to bring up Hitler automatically loses the argument! Better luck next time.

mbeswick98 said:

http://www.startribune.com/prince-welcomes-black-journalists-association-for-unusual-night-at-paisley-park/321167791/

'Prince did tell the crowd that the music also would be available in a physical format'

NOW IM EXCITED !!!

"The new songs, perhaps titled "Love Control" and “Shut This Down,” were very dense and mechanical, with lots of intriguing electronic noises."

*cough!* *Josh!* *cough!*

BartVanHemelen said:

I don't frequently ask queations, so I don't bother reading them. I just nag about Tidal

V10LETBLUES said:

andykeen said:

This will push up torrent hits. Hell, I know I'll be downloading this illegally

Sadly yes. I believe most everyone here would have listened to the album on the day of its release in this manner. Mostly because it would probably be a lot easier.

AndyKeen said it. If i just can't buy it from Amazon...if I'm actually supposed to piss away money on Tidal to listen to one album...well, fuck you three times. Illegal download here as well.

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Polo1026 said:

This is an interesting response. It seems like Prince fans really don't want the man to own his masters and release music on his terms. Everything Prince did was a ploy from 'the internet is dead' to pulling his music off of streaming services(owning your own masters allows one to negotiate on his behalf without input from warners, I can't understand why so many fans here, who are informed, missed this point). This was a clear negotiating tactic to see which streaming service would give Prince and his music the best opportunity and Tidal won the exclusive streaming rights for the album and will also stream Prince's catalog. If Prince is satisfied with the compensation he's getting from Tidal why would Prince's fans feel such rage about it? The same fans that wanted Prince to own his masters and had the right to release music however he saw fit. The same fans that were fine when Prince released new albums for free in newspapers or along with concert tickets or via direct download. I find it strange that people who regularly post comments and intimate feelings about various subjects on a website are suddenly less technically astute about listing to music from a streaming service. Still, just because Tidal has exclusive streaming rights doesn't mean the album will not be released at a later date on a CD. On another note, I would invite all of you to the 3rdeyegirl youtube account to view a cool video of an orchestra tracking a new song. Sounds very promising.

First, my complaints have nothing to do with whether or not Prince has the right to do this sort of thing. I actually don't care whether Prince owns his old masters or someone else does. The man is doing fine financially, or should be, either way. He is more than able to follow his whims. I don't insist that he release anything at all. All I care about is being able to own everything he does release, so I can enjoy it, when I want, where I want--without paying someone else for that ability indefinitely. And I'd like to be able to do that simply and legally as much as possible. Is that so wrong?

Just for the record, I'm not wild about any release strategies that restrict the music's availability in strange ways. I think everything released should be available to own for pretty much everyone, at a reasonable cost. I think everything else is ridiculous, honestly. If he wants to release some stuff free, do so--at a standard, consistent location, either his own or some mainstream spot. Make it about the music, not this bizarre "Where am I now foolishness." Other independent artists, both small and large, have worked this out. They use their own sites, or something like Bandcamp, and music is there for customers without a lot of messing around. Save the "doing it his own way" for the music--that's where it matters. As to the issue of whether there will be a purchase option on HITNRUN--who knows? For now, we are left with word from the Prince camp that mentions only the stream, and, since he does what he wants when he wants, we have no idea what will happen.

Thanks for pointing out the string session--I hope that whatever their working on becomes available for me to own a copy of sometime in the future.

[Edited 8/9/15 7:46am]

I've seen the mentions of physical release now--but the rest of this still applies.

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greyhoodiegirl said:

mbeswick98 said:

http://www.startribune.co...21167791/

'Prince did tell the crowd that the music also would be available in a physical format'

NOW IM EXCITED !!!

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Well, if he doesn't want virtually anyone who still cares to simply pirate it, he damn well should. At the very least, let us buy digitally from Amazon.

[Edited 8/9/15 7:33am]

If everything is in place
why not release it NOW.
Why wait a month?

iZsaZsa said:

ludwig said:

Speak for yourself. I'm glad Bart is around.

[Edited 8/9/15 5:31am]

You don't already know what he posts? Really?

I'm happy to reveal EXCLUSIVELY what Bart's opinion will be on Prince's next two albums

Cream Factory (2016)

This is what is smells like when Princey decides 3EG are the new Wendy and Lisa. Sounds like everyone had toy instruments and the "engineer" recorded the whole thing on a iPad.

Epochal Symbol of the Zeitgeist (2017)

Oh look, it's Princey wanting to sound important, so someone sent him a couple of thesaurus links. Prententious tripe the famz will gobble whole in the hope of feeling more intelligent.

Dearest Prince:

Tidal can go suck my balls. Put it up everywhere and anywhere on the release day so all fans have equal and instant access. You, my dear Prince, may think u have an exclusive with Tidal, but I know half a dozen torrent sites that will say otherwise, and you've no one to blame but your little purple self.

TheEnglishGent said:

MIRvmn said:

Well seems like Prince now said that the album will be released in physical format and available for download and that's a good thing

Nooo, this is terrible, how can I be angry now?

We all just get to switch sides--the anti-streaming only people are the happy ones, the only idiots would want to own it people will get to be disappointed in Prince's capitulating to the dinosaurs.

Let the games continue!!!

BartVanHemelen said:

feeluupp said:

OFC... In order to be a FAN/FAM you have to research and study as much as BART has... So in the end he's just the biggest HYPOCRITE... He's read all the books, researched every little thing about him, yet he's not a FAN/FAM... Sorry BART go get some excercise besides spreading "THE TRUTH" here. You're outdated anyway.

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According to your logic, someone who researches Hitler must be a Hitler fan.

Oh, wow. You went there?

BartVanHemelen said:

Aerogram said:

Sorry Bart you can't accuse others of clinging because you're already the worst clinger in Prince.org's history with your relentless muti-decade crusade against what you'd think was Satan's spawn and not just the allegedly irrelevant no-good has been you claim he is.

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Yes, me pointing something is shit is a "crusade". How dare I? Don't I know my powerful words hurt the fragile feelings of those feeble famz?

.

Funny how you lot continue to focus on me. You'd think you wouldn't have time with all that fantastic music you can listen to. No seriously, WHY DO YOU CARE SO MUCH? Why does it bother you that people keep pointing out that Prince makes ridiculous decisions? Why do you have to exaggerate and fabricate lies to keep your illusion going? Why is it that in your world only some people have the right to voice an opinion?

Oh wait--they went there?

EddieC said:

TheEnglishGent said:

Nooo, this is terrible, how can I be angry now?

We all just get to switch sides--the anti-streaming only people are the happy ones, the only idiots would want to own it people will get to be disappointed in Prince's capitulating to the dinosaurs.

Let the games continue!!!

Artists seem to think they can play games like this now. It's like Hulu vs. Netflix vs Amazon with tv shows. This one has that show, but not the other one. However artists would be wise to remember, an album is not a tv show. Unlike 13 or 22 episodes, an album can be downloaded for free in less than a minute with a high speed connection. Make it easily available for everyone on the day of release, or suffer the consequences.