VelvetKittyKat said:

As I said before, I most likely wouldn't listen to the other 'artists' on Tidal, so I have no interest in subscribing.

Unless Prince releases this via some other media (CD, Itunes, 3rdeyetunes) I'll be getting it 'illegally.'

Despite Prince not liking old people, he might need to accept the fact that a good portion (the majority?) of his fan base has 'grown up' along with him & doesn't use whatever the lastest hip distribution channel is.

These are the people who do support him, buy his latest shit, jump through his latest hoop & continue to follow him.

And I have to admit, if Tidal was just some halfcocked Prince streaming service, I probably WOULD fall for it & subscribe.

But it's not & I have no interest in paying for a bunch of shit that I won't listen to anyway.

Didn't you read the press release? Prince doesn't need US old fans, that supported his special brand of BS all these decades, so that his ungrateful ass wouldn't fade away into obscurity like so many artists before him. Oh no, he has new fans now, "who just love to hear what Prince has to say, rather than wanting to always hear that classic Purple Rain Prince sound." They're called the "Purple Collective" or "Purple Army or as I refer to them the...

So don't sweat it. I'm sure they'll be crashing Tidals servers in a massive sign-up just for access to Prince's latest droppings, any minute now.

BobGeorge909 said:

VelvetKittyKat said:

And according to the 3EG Twitter--'Stare' is NOT included.

So I guess it really IS a 'Spotify exclusive.'

I saw that too. Seeing how different it is from HARDROCKLOVER, it'd make sense it's not intended for the same project. But who knows what that nickel b saying...all pseudo-cryptic and shit...it just may be in hitnrun....

I'm willing to bet HitnRun Phase 1 obviously will be released on TIDAL Sept 7 and something comes after for Phase 2 will be FREE URSELF on SPOTIFY...

Romeoblu said:

BartVanHemelen said:

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There was an entire thread about "what if Prince would set up his own streaming service" recently and all sane persons involved pointed out that it would be a massive failure. Yet here's someone proposing that exact same idea (in the bit I responded to). I mean, don't they know about LotusFlow3r.com? Where do Prince fans get this insane idea that Prince has a large enough fan base to support such idiocy?

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Also: I've bene proven right over and over again. I was proven right about the first version of NPGMC. I was proven right about Rave. I was proven right about LotusFlow3r.com. Etcetera etcetera.

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But you lot wanna pretend I'm not.

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You lot counter me saying that he doesn't promote albums when he doesn't play its songs live by reminding me that at one concert he played half a minute of one of the songs from the album.

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You lot keep insisting Prince sells out gigs whenever he turns up anywhere, but the reality is that he's had some massive flops in recent years.

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You lot were all over the "announcement" of this album some weeks ago and claimed it was goign to be released in early August, and as it turned out... nope, yet another time you failed to learn your lesson, you still fell for the vague hype. "Stare" (or whatever that album's name was) was going to be released this Summer. Ain't happening. Last November we were goign to get that NPG album, you lot said. Didn't happen. Hell, even this upcoming exclusive stream isn't exactly a "real" release, now is it? Or are you goign to the record shop anyway, "just in case Prince will surprise us and deliver physical CDs"? We've had these phony non-announcements for more than 15 years, and time and time again you lot pretend they're written in stone, whereas in fact they often contain very little information.

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Wanna impress me? Show me that you've LEARNED from those experiences.

You spelt been incorrectly.

BartVanHemelen said:

inspireof said:

Being a multi millionnare doesn't mean anything anymore these days... Prince has bills just like anyone else and cutting deals like this one entitles him the freedom to create more music at his on pace...

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I just love how famz continue to defend Prince's shitty business decisions with the most ludicrous reasons.

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Lemme get started on debunking your nonsense by givign a couple of links. This and this and this and this etc. That's just a small selection of upcoming releases. You might notice that these are box sets and deluxe releases for artists that have sold a fraction of what Prince has sold. Yet somehow it is economically viable for those releases to exist, but Prince cannot release his albums on CD (or heaven forbid, vinyl).

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Sure, PP costs a lot to run. Wanna know how you can fund that? With a steady stream of income. Not by searching for ad-hoc deals that pay you millions if you're lucky.

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But apparently I'm an "armchair manager" who doesn't know anything, while Prince is obviously a business genius who for some reason now has struck a deal with a desperate and rapidly failing streaming service.

Has it actually been confirmed that there will be no physical release? Or that Tidal is the ONLY way anyone is going to hear this album?

Isn't Daft Punk's crappy movie on there as a Tidal exclusive? Along with the video to Rhiannas new single... of course anyone googling "Tidal Exclusive" is presented with a page full of Prince links.

Linking to some small time releases means nothing mate. Anthony Phillips has released a box set... so what? how many did it sell? Did he make millions? Did it sell anything close to what AOA sold? The fact it saw a release is not in itself proof that at was profitable. That's like saying "Well PlectrumElectrum was released by WB so it MUST have been financially viable".

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Like, pretty please resume the super-fantastic HITNRUN Tour and sell at the merch table the super-funky HITNRUN on vinyl just like U did with the super-wonderful vinyl 4 AOA and PLECTRUMELECTRUM.

tab32792 said:

lol this place is hilarious. you want new music. it's announced complete with a release date and people still complain. people still buy cds?

Yes people still buy CDs, and LPs. The reason is sound quality. Streamed music, even of higher quality, cannot match CDs and LPs to any reasonable extent if you have anything remotely resembling ears. Anyway, Tidal isn't around where I live. bootleg blues, then...

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KingSausage said:

Identity said:

Yeah, it's called torrent files.

You're supposed to cough, fool!

Haha

bigd74 said:

I'm looking forward to the album, but why would I pay for a service I can only use in the evening on my laptop, regardless of the sound quality it's still through my laptop speakers or headphones, I can't listen to it in the car, I can't listen to it at work. This sucks

Your first month is free so technically you're not being asked to pay for anything.

If your car stereo doesn't have bluetooth you can get an adapter for like £5. Plug it in and send any audio from your phone to your car stereo. Just saying.

Well assuming Prince turned to TIDAL because of the poor sales of the previous albums, then what's he going to turn to after TIDAL don't give him a lot of money for this?

paulludvig said:

MIRvmn said:

wow...definately most negative thread all year....

luvsexy4all said:

BobGeorge909 said:

Shannyn said:

Same here

I see what y'all saying....but.... The ONLY CD player I have is in my car...and it skips summin fierce. I have a record player...but its stuck in the house and not portable, and tbh...it gets pretty dusty. I get internet connections virtually everywhere...98 percent of the time they're free or included in my costs of having a phone/data plan. My internet connections are much more portable and reliable than ANY physical media players I have. I like to take advantage of that rather than shun it. Do they even sell discman anymore? Is there a CD slot on my phone I don't know about? No worries TBH....I just stick the audio plug from my stereo into my phone or comp and bypass all that physical bs... I don't understand why people hold on SOOOO hard to older, more difficult ways to listen to music.

It's not older or harder. It's just better quality. The streaming and MP3 pen-drive-music revolution is the only 'upgradation' in commercial music format history which involves a degradation in music quality. Frankly, MP3 sucks. lossless files aren't easily available yet for all artists, and if you do download lossless and then listen via bluetooth, you don't know zilch because bluetooth involves some compression too. cds and LPs are easier, classy, lossless and have some character. Plus you own them, it's not just digital rights management.

BUT...if you can't spot the difference between a CD and an inferior digital file, or simple don't care, it's up to you. As an example, listen to the part in Jam of the Year when the piano solo kicks in, on 320 MP3 or ALAC or whatever you have. Then listen to the CD. I think the difference should be apparent.

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tatocorcu said:

MIRvmn said:

yed I wouldn't be surprised if Prince made a deal also with Spotify and Apple music for the other 2 albums and much point in that direction since Stare is not included on HITNRUN and only available on Spotify

Well, that would be just taking the piss... So you are probably right!

I think it would be a cool concept. Not particularly consumer friendly perhaps, but still.

luvsexy4all said:

wow...definately most negative thread all year....

Yup... And the midst of it all, BART still ranting his hypocracy... And Violet still saying how bad AOA is... Love the ORG.

Pentacle said:

Anyway, I don't really care either way. Like with all Prince's 21st century releases, I'll download it for free, listen to it twice, and delete it again.

THIS.

give him the benefit of the doubt...let it transpire into pahase 2 ..before we completely lose our minds...

This has shined a light on downloading vs. hard copy releases. I'm all about technology and such, but I won't apologize for enjoying owning a hard copy release of a Prince album. Part of the joy of buying vinyl or cds is the album art (inside and out), the lyrics (if included) and the liner notes. I would always read them to find out who wrote what, who did what, who thanked who, etc. It's about the whole "package" -- not just the music. And artists over the years understood that. Sometimes the covers have been just as classic as the music inside.

That is now a dying art. Younger people will never know or appreciate that custom.

That being said, I won't necessarily complain if Prince ends up making HITNRUN available as a download only. I'm just pointing out that just because something is a tradition doesn't always make it a bad or "outdated" thing.

luvsexy4all said:

Everyone Congratulations!

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All the complaining has worked and Prince has announced he will provide the new album in a hard copy form so you don't have to go through all the ridiculous trouble of a free trial at TIDAL!

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Noodled24 said:

Noodled24 said:

BartVanHemelen said:

luvsexy4all said:

wow...definately most negative thread all year....

Yup.

Prince: "Here are two free songs, and the new album is practically free"

Fans: "What a fucking rip off, Prince... you've gone too far this time!! Why should we go to that website to get your music, can't you put it on a different website and just eat the hoasting and PR costs yourself?"

It'll certainly be fun seeing who eats their words and signs up to Tidal next month.

Noodled24 said:

Noodled24 said:

Eye am OVER THE MOON in Xcitement!!! Also looking 4ward to PHASE 2...

EddieC said:

KCOOLMUZIQ said:

Eye'm more Xcited about Phase 2!!!!!!

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I'm guessing you won't confirm this, KCOOL--but this sounds almost like someone who maybe, just possibly, isn't all that excited about the actual announcement in absolutely all its apparent details, and so he's chosen to look forward in the hope that a possible "Phase 2" will make it all better?

Well, that still leaves the Spotify song as a peculiar mystery, doesn't it?

Oh, as to my response to the announcement--really? You've got to be kidding me--but I hold out no strong hope for a sensible "buy it" option, even in download form.

I suspect I'll eventually possess it in some form--but I'd prefer to pay him for it (but not just to listen to it as long as his agreement with Tidal holds up--or as long as Tidal holds up--and I certainly don't intend to continue paying for it monthly... that would be ridiculous).

BartVanHemelen said:

thedance said:

^ this is a good & essential question, I wanna know this as well!

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Then GOOGLE IT. READ THEIR FAQ. Why all the need to be spoonfed answers? FIGURE IT OUT YOURSELF.

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Sheesh.

why, Bart..... (oh shut up already damn)

I am lazy and in no hurry, and actually whatever the answer is I will never sign to tidal, or any other streaming service.

I wanna own a hard copy I can have forever in my life.