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Reply #180 posted 04/19/14 2:17pm

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The first place it popped up was on YouTube just before it got to iTunes and there were a few links to it and the first thing that stood out was the "poor" sound quality, Bootlegs are in better quality. So i just thought it was a "poor youtube" link, NOPE, bought it from iTunes and same poor quality, and honestly i like the song, but the quality is so poor that it makes it almost unlistenable. Not sure why he let it out like this, i mean i know he doesnt care about "singles" so they may have just let it go, cause almost everything else "singles" that is, that he has put out, they all have sounded OK, its ironic that the best of his songs, sounds the worst, and its licensed to Warner, which makes me think he really wanted to just toss it out there, that this may even be a demo.


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Reply #181 posted 04/19/14 2:18pm

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ehh..... I like Pretzelbodylogic better as a single. I am glad you guys finally got your single. I guess it has been overhyped to me as I thought that was extremely boring unfortunately. I am in the minority though as I really like the 3rd eye girl singles and its starting to look like maybe that project is getting aborted? 2 singles now solo Prince and both are zzzzzzzzzz.

I want what ever crack u smoking....

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Reply #182 posted 04/19/14 2:19pm

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lezama said:

Replica said:

It might be that I heard a bad streaming version. It's not possible for us in Norway or other places in Europe to buy it yet. They're loosing alot of money doing this. But the one I heard had heavy distortion when the drums came in. It was so extreme that even a little kid with no knowledge would imediatly hear it. I'm not being a snob now, as I listen to alot of electronic music that are extremly compressed. But the version I heard sounded really bad.

It'll be available outside the US on the 21st. I have no distortion on my version btw.

Same here.

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Reply #183 posted 04/19/14 2:34pm

IheartCali

Love the live version from Vegas, but not a huge fan of this studio version...

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Reply #184 posted 04/19/14 2:39pm

funkomatic

The only thing I like about this song is the distortion, the musical breakdown, if you will. Otherwise it's a typical Prince ballad. Just a mix of things all heard before.

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Reply #185 posted 04/19/14 2:42pm

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ufoclub said:

Here's how the wavefile looks when the drums kick in at the beginning:

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and then at the end of the song:

[img:$uid]http://img.phot.../img:$uid]

it's just inexcusable.

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Reply #186 posted 04/19/14 2:46pm

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He announces that the remasters are FINALLY coming after all these years - and then releases possibly the WORST mastered song of his entire career.

God save us all... This is an abomination, I can't even comment on the song itself since it sounds so bad.

If this is what the new album remasters are going to sound like - he can lock them up in the vault and forget the code...

[Edited 4/19/14 14:50pm]

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Reply #187 posted 04/19/14 3:10pm

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purplethunder3121 said:

lezama said:

It'll be available outside the US on the 21st. I have no distortion on my version btw.

Same here.

Listen to the word "cool" around 3:35. I don't think it's distorted as much as every single sound is so squashed up to the maximum that is loses clarity and sounds messy.

But still, it's nice to have this released! And I do think it will be fixed.

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Reply #188 posted 04/19/14 3:13pm

lemoncrush

Really like this track.
Great vocal delivery. Would not sound out of place
On his early 90's albums like diamonds and pearls, although it first reminded me
A little bit of Crucial.
If it breaks when it bends, you better not put it in.
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Reply #189 posted 04/19/14 3:46pm

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FunkyStrange said:

He announces that the remasters are FINALLY coming after all these years - and then releases possibly the WORST mastered song of his entire career.



God save us all... This is an abomination, I can't even comment on the song itself since it sounds so bad.



If this is what the new album remasters are going to sound like - he can lock them up in the vault and forget the code...

[Edited 4/19/14 14:50pm]



Whoah man, that's harsh. I thought it sounded pretty good apart from the bass is crazy loud in the mix
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Reply #190 posted 04/19/14 3:48pm

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ufoclub said:

Listen to the word "cool" around 3:35. I don't think it's distorted as much as every single sound is so squashed up to the maximum that is loses clarity and sounds messy.

But still, it's nice to have this released! And I do think it will be fixed.

Ahh now that you point that out I can hear it, but I'd been listening to it all day and didn't notice anything before that. Thanks

Change it one more time..
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Reply #191 posted 04/19/14 3:56pm

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ufoclub said:

Here's how the wavefile looks when the drums kick in at the beginning:

[img:$uid]http://img.phot.../img:$uid]

and then at the end of the song:

[img:$uid]http://img.phot.../img:$uid]

disbelief

I hope somebody else remasters the classics...

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Reply #192 posted 04/19/14 3:57pm

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ufoclub said:

tollyc said:

The distortion is in the mix, not the mastering. The song is loud ala dr Dre

From what I understand, "Dr Dre" loudness happens in the mastering not the mix, when they send the stereo mix through limiters and compressors to make it seem loud by turning everything up to the limit.

nod yeahthat

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Reply #193 posted 04/19/14 4:13pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Genesia said:

Just in time for Easter: a song about God.

I've been out of the loop, so to speak as far as Prince's newer material has been concerned. Is "Baby" some twisted Prince speak for God? confuse

It's always been code for God--all the way back to "Baby" on For You. "God, what are we gonna do?" "God, God, God, It's You, It's You that I truly adore" "I hope our God has eyes just like you"

What did you think that song was about? A baby?

Crazy people.

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Reply #194 posted 04/19/14 4:17pm

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its actually a great song but it sounds like a TIME song.the lasErs make no sense...why play video games in middle of ballad? Vocals are amaZING!AND IT IS ENTIRELY TOO LOUD AND DISTORTED!

I've only heard a stream so far, so I can't say anything for sure about the sound quality, but I DO NOT UNDERSTAND why the lasers are in there. I'm used to overly literal unnecessary (to my judgment) sound effects in Prince, but usually I know why he put them in. I don't know what they're doing in this song.

Which I think is probably a pretty good song--but I don't want to listen to the streaming version anymore until I can actually buy it and get whatever the "official" sound is going to be. That way my judgement won't be tainted by how terrible the stream was.

[Edited 4/19/14 16:25pm]

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Reply #195 posted 04/19/14 4:21pm

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HatrinaHaterwitz said:

Genesia said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said: I got it from the first note. Listen to the intro of The Breakdown - and then listen to the intro of God (Instrumental).

shrug The intro actually has more of an "A Million Days" vibe than a "God (Instrumental)" vibe to me.

Oh well, po-tay-to/po-tah-to. lol

That's about God too. A million days actually means "A million Years" (because God's days are equal to years in prophecy) and the only thing that could feel like it was gone for a million years would be the eternal God.

"God" though--that one's about chocolate chip cookies.

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Reply #196 posted 04/19/14 4:28pm

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NoVideo said:

i love it. it's the best of the stuff he's put out in the last year.

Exactly. I am very surprised. It's a beautiful song and very promising for a new album. The last time I was excited about a Prince-release? I don't even remember. Now I am!

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Reply #197 posted 04/19/14 4:47pm

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Reply #198 posted 04/19/14 4:55pm

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Still not out yet in Australia but I literally JUST saw them discussing it on the Weekend Today show on Channel 9. Some of the hosts were asked to react. The female presenter said she was a huge fan and it was "very mellow," while one of the fellas said "He sounds like a lady singing." disbelief

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Reply #199 posted 04/19/14 5:14pm

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i love love love love love love love love it

and im the first one to hate on the new stuff

i love love love love love love love love it

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Reply #200 posted 04/19/14 5:28pm

tollyc

Guys,

I have a credible friend that states this song was intented to be used for the Gatsby movie. At the end of the day, do I know for sure? No. But listen the lyrics as if it's written about Jay Gatsby and all of life's excesses (big pool, big parties, big house (waking up in places you never would believe) etc...

Tolly

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Reply #201 posted 04/19/14 5:32pm

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EddieC said:

HatrinaHaterwitz said:

I've been out of the loop, so to speak as far as Prince's newer material has been concerned. Is "Baby" some twisted Prince speak for God? confuse

It's always been code for God--all the way back to "Baby" on For You. "God, what are we gonna do?" "God, God, God, It's You, It's You that I truly adore" "I hope our God has eyes just like you"

What did you think that song was about? A baby?

Crazy people.

Baby

Baby, what are we gonna do'
I'm so in love with you (doo-wah)
Baby, what are we gonna do'
I know you're in love with me to (doo-wah)
Should we go on living together'
Or should we get married right away'
Whatever you decide,
I'll still love you, baby
And we'll grow stronger everyday
Baby, what are we gonna do'
I barely have enough money for 2
Baby, what are we gonna do'
I don't want to regret what I've done to you
I never would've thought that this would happen
To a very careful man like me
But baby, pretty baby, we're gonna work it out, yeah
I love you... I love you, can't you see'

Baby, baby, baby
It's you, 'said it's you that I truly adore
Ooo, baby, baby (baby, baby)
Ooo, baby, babe...
I hope our baby has eyes just like yours (just like yours)

The "baby" he is talking about is not 'God' nor is it 'a baby' until the very last line. It's a woman that is pregnant!

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I knew from the start that I loved you with all my heart.
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Reply #202 posted 04/19/14 5:58pm

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3rdeyeboy said:

Lasers. Just....no.


Yes...


...Oh yessss young 3rdeye...



MWAHAHAH-HAHAHA-AHAH-HAHA
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Reply #203 posted 04/19/14 6:01pm

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Anyone who thinks this sort of audio quality is acceptable in the retail market needs a new pair of ears.

I think everyone's ears have been ruined by years of listening to compressed garbage mp3 quality, that's the only way people could rationalize this quality as being ok.

Prince should be ashamed of putting this subpar quality track, where is the quality control ?

And still I haven't even talked about the actual track yet.
Hard to believe I've been on the org for over 25 years now!
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Reply #204 posted 04/19/14 6:16pm

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FunkyStrange said:

Anyone who thinks this sort of audio quality is acceptable in the retail market needs a new pair of ears.

I think everyone's ears have been ruined by years of listening to compressed garbage mp3 quality, that's the only way people could rationalize this quality as being ok.

Prince should be ashamed of putting this subpar quality track, where is the quality control ?

And still I haven't even talked about the actual track yet.

I believe he us testing us. Both the lasers and the extreme clipping, distortion, over compressed sound. I do not think that even Prince would consider this to be great sounding. The man that is promoting analog recordings and vinyl can't at the same time support digital clipping and distortion. It doesn't make any sense. He is testing us, or saving the "good" masters until he can release it himself.
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Reply #205 posted 04/19/14 6:16pm

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Oh Prince fans can be so anal retentive, it's like being with a bunch of virgin nuns in Tijuana. Like there's never been a good Prince song with a bit of a compression problem.

This song is great -- so is Fallinginlovetonite by the way. It's not the best he ever wrote? Wake up, it's competing against hundreds of songs he wrote, some of the most sonically iconic of our era. It's like if people had been waiting for Picasso to top Guernica or Michelangelo the Sistine Chapel murals. Prince is custodian of his vision of many of our musical idioms, and his recent output shows him to be in full control of his talents.

He's been pedestrian and phoning it in for too long, no question, but he's also been in an extreme musical purgatory, a contractual alien to his own seminal creations. He did make many mistakes, but you have to acknowledge its painful for any artist to find oneself divorced from one's own higly original and personal art.

You can find flaws as a fan and feel he could have done a little better with this and that, but in the end, as an artist, he's creating what he wants to create just fine with the assistance he wants to get, and he's positioned to be remembered by history as one of the greatest musical prodigy that ever lived.

This is especially true following yesterday's Warner deal, which opens the door to a renewed appreciation for Prince's talent and contribution, given that there is a possibility of documenting almost superhuman feats of creativity and mastery, solely focusing on his golden period.

The rest, what has been issued since he left the label, will in time be rediscovered -- at least the best of it.

[Edited 4/19/14 18:25pm]

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Reply #206 posted 04/19/14 6:21pm

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FunkyStrange said:

Anyone who thinks this sort of audio quality is acceptable in the retail market needs a new pair of ears.

I think everyone's ears have been ruined by years of listening to compressed garbage mp3 quality, that's the only way people could rationalize this quality as being ok.

Prince should be ashamed of putting this subpar quality track, where is the quality control ?

And still I haven't even talked about the actual track yet.



I have heard a lot of hissing and crunches and pops myntunes lately...I had chalked it up to listening through my shitty phone with shitty equalizers and shitty headphones.

While I'm sure the shitty this, that, and the other has much tondo with it, maybe much more has to do with mastering and the stuff y'all b talking about. There's a plethora of y'all talking and it don't appear as if y'all talking out the side of y'alls ass.




Just for the record: ....i am truly ashamed about my descent into the literary land of y'alls and yonders...it just...ummm...well, happened'...I 'reckon'...
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Reply #207 posted 04/19/14 6:24pm

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Aerogram said:

Oh Prince fans can be so anal retentive, it's like being with a bunch of virgin nuns in Tijuana. Like there's never been a good Prince song with a bit of a compression problem.



This song is great -- so is Fallinginlovetonite by the way. It's not the best he ever wrote? Wake up, it's competing against hundreds of songs he wrote, some of the most sonically iconic of our era. It's like if people had been waiting for Picasso to top Guernica or Michelangelo the Sistine Chapel murals. Prince is custodian of his vision of many of our musical idioms, and his recent output shows him to be in full control of his talents.



He's been pedestrian and phoning it in for too long, no question, but he's also been in an extreme musical purgatory, an contractual alien to his own seminal creations. He did make many mistakes, but you have to acknowledge its painful for any artist to find oneself divorced from one's own higly original and personal art.



You can find flaws as a fan and feel he could have done a little better with this and that, but in the end, as an artist, he's creating what he wants to create just fine with the assistance he wants to get, and he's positioned to be remembered by history as one of the greatest musical prodigy that ever lived.



This is especially true following yesterday's Warner deal, which opens the door to a renewed appreciation for Prince's talent and contribution, given that there is a possibility of documenting almost superhuman feats of creativity and mastery, solely focusing on his golden period.



The rest, what has been issued since he left the label, will in time be rediscovered -- at least the best of it.







Excellently stated.
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Reply #208 posted 04/19/14 6:36pm

3rdeyeboy

I think there is a danger people are getting carried away with this track. Its great, but its no leap above other good tracks in the last 10 years.

I think people are hyped about the WB deal and are connecting this to the 80's, at least mentally.

Like I said, great track, but so was Groovy Potential and Ain't Gonna Miss U.

That said, an album with all three tracks I mention hear is an album worth listening to.

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Reply #209 posted 04/19/14 6:37pm

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Aerogram said:

Oh Prince fans can be so anal retentive, it's like being with a bunch of virgin nuns in Tijuana. Like there's never been a good Prince song with a bit of a compression problem.

This song is great -- so is Fallinginlovetonite by the way. It's not the best he ever wrote? Wake up, it's competing against hundreds of songs he wrote, some of the most sonically iconic of our era. It's like if people had been waiting for Picasso to top Guernica or Michelangelo the Sistine Chapel murals. Prince is custodian of his vision of many of our musical idioms, and his recent output shows him to be in full control of his talents.

He's been pedestrian and phoning it in for too long, no question, but he's also been in an extreme musical purgatory, a contractual alien to his own seminal creations. He did make many mistakes, but you have to acknowledge its painful for any artist to find oneself divorced from one's own higly original and personal art.

You can find flaws as a fan and feel he could have done a little better with this and that, but in the end, as an artist, he's creating what he wants to create just fine with the assistance he wants to get, and he's positioned to be remembered by history as one of the greatest musical prodigy that ever lived.

This is especially true following yesterday's Warner deal, which opens the door to a renewed appreciation for Prince's talent and contribution, given that there is a possibility of documenting almost superhuman feats of creativity and mastery, solely focusing on his golden period.

The rest, what has been issued since he left the label, will in time be rediscovered -- at least the best of it.

[Edited 4/19/14 18:25pm]

It's a legitimate topic of conversation because, as you can see from the numerous people who have posted about it, it's a serious flaw in the release.

The song itself is amazing. But it's not "anal retentive" to comment about what a botched mastering job this is.

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